Top 5: Final Missions in Ace Combat

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  • @JinteiModding
    @JinteiModding 4 роки тому +248

    5#: Tunnel
    4#: Tunnel
    3#: Tunnel
    2#: Tunnel
    1#: Tunnel
    *welcome to Ace Combat, where every final mission is a Tunnel run*

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +27

      underrated comment

    • @JinteiModding
      @JinteiModding 4 роки тому +3

      @@activace thanks activace!

    • @womenslayernumber1
      @womenslayernumber1 4 роки тому +19

      ace combat 8: every mission has a tunnel

    • @thebuddy4517
      @thebuddy4517 3 роки тому +16

      @@womenslayernumber1 ace combat 9: takes place in a tunnel that’s located in strangereal

    • @thefaithfulwisp6272
      @thefaithfulwisp6272 3 роки тому +6

      Ace combat zero: you guys get tunnels in the last mission ?

  • @razgriz501
    @razgriz501 4 роки тому +68

    My Top 5 Final Missions:
    5: Megalith
    4: End of Deception
    3: Dark Blue
    2: Chandelier
    1: Zero

  • @razgriz501
    @razgriz501 4 роки тому +51

    I love the OST for Chandelier. For me, it exemplifies the tragedy that is Estovakia. The Estovakians at Chandelier are under no illusions that they are going to survive. This is their last stand, but there is no triumph, only grim resignation

  • @badasstasticusbadass4908
    @badasstasticusbadass4908 4 роки тому +47

    I have Chandelier and Pixy's boss fights in a special place in my heart for some reasons:
    While Chandelier is a upgraded version of Megalith mixed with Stonehenge, the soundtrack combined with the whole story about the comflict, really makes it look like a very sad outcome, you are not in some sort of epic last mission battle in order to save the world and beat the bad guys, is just the inevitable fate that the Ulysses disaster brought to Strangereal, the whole planet got scarred by it and millions of lives where lost in both the disaster and the comflicts that came afterwards, you can see the consequences and it feels overwhelming.
    Zero probabbly has the most human character of all AC franchise, Larry Folke, we see him as your wingman from the beginning, both being just regular mercenaries fighting for money and reputation, although, as the war progresses, we can see the change that the comflict is doing to Pixy, is not up to Mayhem mission where we see how the personality of Pixy has changed and is in Inferno mission where he had enought of the comflict, defecting to AWWNB, determinated to end the comflict by any means nescesary, after the whole comflict and some years later, we find a jaded Larry, living the rest of his life in shame and regret for the things he did, as he makes one of the most amazing dialogues i have heard in videogames, which is what makes him so likeable and you can understand his point of view.

  • @TheMaundy69
    @TheMaundy69 4 роки тому +52

    This list is spot on amazing choices. Ace 6 the final mission was insane, Megalith i unfortunately never played sorry , Zero the fight with Pixy was unforgettable even now the conclusion to the rivalry perfect which the music complements so well , Ace 7 the music as you take off got me so pumped and the music later made the victory more epic and finally Ace 5 that mission still is one of the reasons its one of my favourite gamew still to this day.

    • @anzaca1
      @anzaca1 3 роки тому +1

      AC7's "Daredevil" track is so awesome. When you fight the Arsenal Bird for the final time, the song peaks right when the shield drops.

  • @Darkyan97
    @Darkyan97 3 роки тому +8

    I know it's not technically a final mission but the most intense and my favourite mission was Ten Million Relief Plan.
    - The buildup as we search for the Alicorn
    - the moment it surfaces
    - the fight itself, which is super hard
    - the fake surrender
    - AND then that *mother-f-ing* Final Phase! (complete with Torres' mental breakdown)
    Everything was pure bliss for me.

  • @OscarKesh
    @OscarKesh 4 роки тому +61

    I feel like if you include the tunnel run and solg fight for AC5, then you have to include Valley of Kings for ACZ.

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +17

      Yeah looking back I regret not putting it in there! Valley of Kings is such a perfect build-up to Zero.

  • @slowpreme
    @slowpreme 4 роки тому +32

    Everybody gansta till belka does something wrong

  • @galm2pixy666
    @galm2pixy666 Рік тому +2

    My top 5 final mission:
    5.chandelier
    4.End of deception
    3.The unsung war
    2.Megalith
    1.Zero
    Honorable mention:
    Kings(Project Wingman)

  • @chengzhou8711
    @chengzhou8711 4 роки тому +35

    Can’t spell Belka without “L”

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +5

      This is the most clever comment I’ve received.

    • @chengzhou8711
      @chengzhou8711 4 роки тому +3

      activace not even my joke but it’s true and funny

  • @Dovakhiin1172
    @Dovakhiin1172 4 роки тому +18

    On dark blue, when rosa says "there's still one drone left" haering that base drop sent chills down my spine

  • @RealGracefulGoose
    @RealGracefulGoose 4 роки тому +7

    "Impactful dialogue"
    "From Melissa"
    Pick one lol

  • @vini__dev
    @vini__dev 4 роки тому +19

    Great list, along with the conclusion of the story, the soundtrack is the most striking thing of an Ace Combat ending... My top 5 are: Ace 3's UPEO + Secret ending, Ace 6, 5, 0 and Ace 7

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +3

      DAMN is the final mission of AC6 that good? I wanna play it so badly ;-;

  • @Net-Zone
    @Net-Zone 4 роки тому +23

    Love AC5 😎
    The list is on point on how I feel about these amazing final missions.

    • @vini__dev
      @vini__dev 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah and the songs that play in the missions and final moments make the Ace 5 ending even more special

  • @LtViper
    @LtViper 4 роки тому +10

    I may not have a top 5 but i can tell you that operation hush in Ac7 is my alltime favorite video game OST, especially when the choir kicks in, it gives you a sense that ""youre saving the world""

  • @blazegor9612
    @blazegor9612 4 роки тому +9

    Grest choices. I completely agree with the list!!

  • @plswhy
    @plswhy 4 роки тому +8

    5's final mission(s) kind of hit a somewhat sore spot due to showcasing noticeable problems with the pacing, with the first part essentially being one long waiting game out of your control with some targets (escalates to not enough at a certain level of skill) and the second part being yet another long waiting game where all you have to shoot at is 8 piles of XLAA bait and optionally a MiG 1.44 until you wait for a target that doesn't exactly shoot back but at least you can fly through the barrel or stack LAGMs/SODs one on top of another for an incredibly powerful TLS-tier alpha strike. Dying in either kills a couple minutes of progress, especially the first part where the cranes slap you in the face. On an unrelated note Chandelier in 6 is not just massive and imposing, but the entire platform is littered with AA guns and SAMs while also having Strigons in the mix. Should you miss a Stauros shell you witness that enormous cannon firing, with a blinding muzzle flash. Its stage presence at this point is pretty much on the same level as Megalith, though maybe the song isn't as intimidating.
    For me two of my favorite final missions are in the General Resource route of AC 3, followed by Zero then Megalith and finally ending with AC 2's final secret mission. Keep in mind that this is more from a gameplay-oriented side.

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher 4 роки тому +7

    Top 5 anime boss battles

  • @murilopedrofelicio
    @murilopedrofelicio 2 роки тому +1

    Zero have One of the most memorable fights!
    Hard battle and same time, was so enjoyable with amazing soundtrack “Flamenco Style”
    The conclusion makes me remember the emotion when i watch Top Gun for The first time.

  • @owlwaifu4949
    @owlwaifu4949 2 роки тому

    Chandiler also has some massive narrative weight to it considering how it all sort of build up to this, throughout the entire game you come back from the brink of defeat, you barely hold against an overwhelming enemy force and push them back through some of the most devastating battles ever
    You make alot of freinds and allys, just 2 missions earlier you thought the war was finished, you just beat back the enemy from the capital in possibly one of the best large scale battles in ace combat history
    The next mission you get a kinda obvious but still kinds fuckjng heart wrenching reveal and when you go to fight chandiler, with all the aces who had thus far flown with you nearly every single mission to fight back this enemy you are fighting for everything you've ever known and loved, you are fighting for the people at home who you just beat an entire army to save from occupation and now you have to save them one last time
    Its brilliantly done and that sound track
    While not bombastic it doesnt need to be and that beuatiful somber piece just works brilliantly with the story being told
    Seriously if you can get an 360 or Xbox 1 and play ace combat 6,it is legitimately outstanding
    Edit: I almost forgot to mention one of the coolest parts
    The cutscene right before the enemy officer you've also been following the story of the entire campaign comes to this beautiful end where he goes against his country, against everything to save these people he has come to know and love
    Its great

  • @crisscrosszx
    @crisscrosszx 3 роки тому +1

    i love AC5 and the final mission too.
    i'd love to replay it once again now that i got a PS2 in a good shape
    the thing is...
    i can't bear to replay mission 17 ever again... just writing this is making my eyes teary.
    i cried. i cried a lot that day. i was 14 and an emotional mess.
    i'm almost twice as old nowadays, with an even stronger will. but i still can't.
    i never grew so attached to a group of character

  • @VPRZR0
    @VPRZR0 4 роки тому +7

    i wonder if anyone's redone the end of ACZ in AC7 multiplayer... :P

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +4

      Hmm, not sure but that would be absolutely badass!

    • @gripen777
      @gripen777 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/DoptBhK2SiQ/v-deo.html I think this is what you're looking for. I'm late but definitely worth a watch

  • @moefactor2950
    @moefactor2950 4 роки тому +1

    1.) AC5 - The Unsung War
    2.) AC0 - Zero
    3.) AC7 - Dark Blue
    4.) Infinity (!?) - Operation Bunker Shot
    5.) Assault Horizon > Akula

  • @unitoftemp
    @unitoftemp 2 роки тому

    *INDEPENDENT SQUADRON*
    *THE THREE STRIKES*
    **
    Never fails to get me hyped up to take down Hugin and Munin.

  • @152mmapfsds
    @152mmapfsds 4 роки тому +2

    Honorable mention: Assault Hori... *gunshot*

  • @mannyfur6756
    @mannyfur6756 4 роки тому +5

    Great list Active! Gotta agree with the AC5 one at #1. My first AC finale ever and the one that always sends shivers down my spine. Good video, buddy. *Spanish guitar intensifies.*

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +1

      No doubt, Ace Combat 5 is something else..definitely unique in its own realm.
      *THIS TWISTED GAME NEEDS TO BE RESET*

  • @HMSVanguard46
    @HMSVanguard46 3 роки тому

    As a person who grew up with AC6 it is a bloody brilliant mission. Other than the last part, the AA's turrets on Ace's of ace's mode wipe your health quicker than a EML, but other than that, it's amazing

  • @xk1390
    @xk1390 3 роки тому +1

    My fave final mission is from AC5. The one from AC4 didn't do much for me because they didn't properly explain what the Megalith was so I didn't have enough context to truly care.

  • @jojiriver627
    @jojiriver627 3 роки тому

    Ace Combat 0 will be my bias since its the only played the rest I just watched.
    The ending just breaks my heart.

  • @cheesyfromindonesia9969
    @cheesyfromindonesia9969 Рік тому +1

    When the sky starts to speak Latin

  • @SomeRandomYouTuber_
    @SomeRandomYouTuber_ 3 роки тому +1

    Alt tittle for ACE Combat (mobile version): Tunnel run: Air combat Sim

  • @sergiomendoza5165
    @sergiomendoza5165 2 роки тому

    I only played Ace Combat 3 (the international version) and that final mission even that version was so surreal.

  • @ProsperingNerd808
    @ProsperingNerd808 3 роки тому

    Chandelier was a pretty good final mission. I bought a 360 just to play it. So one of the reasons why it was so riveting was because every so often you’d have to stop attacking the important targets and destroy a nuclear payload that was being loaded into the canon. It was a very obscure target that didn’t stay on screen for very long and it wasn’t a priority target. But if you miss one with in the dialogue as the game plays, you hear radio chatter that a city was decimated if you didn’t destroy one before it was loaded.

  • @JohnSmith-ip6kc
    @JohnSmith-ip6kc 2 роки тому

    AC3 was my first game and I played every bit of the dog shit out of it but AC4 was the most nostalgic to me because my dad and I took turns beating it. My dad was a mechanic in the Air Force and so listening to him be blown away by how realistic everything in the game was and how unrealistic and almost hilarious the mission situations were were some of my cherished childhood moments

  • @punixedi7780
    @punixedi7780 4 роки тому +2

    Great video btw buddy. Unsung War deserves it. Great fight, soundtrack... perfect

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you bud! Always deserves that top spot, such a great ending to the mission.

  • @demonking8528
    @demonking8528 3 роки тому

    absolutely love the list and the affection AC community shows. I would probably place ac0 above ac7 in terms of last missions but that's probably because ac0 was my first ac game and I am probably biased towards it.

  • @punixedi7780
    @punixedi7780 4 роки тому +1

    Idea for another video: Top 10 Jaw-dropping missions in Ace Combat

  • @ssifr3331
    @ssifr3331 2 роки тому

    For me the best final stage (just the stage not the OST and such) is from AC3. God damn it's trippy lol.

  • @acfnugget7880
    @acfnugget7880 4 роки тому +3

    Oh man! Between that damn crane and that final closing door on 5's tunnel run, even now that is enough to give me nightmares! I liked how the mission gave a tough tunnel run, but an easy finale as a reward, albeit with the catch, that you had to down the SOLG or face having to play the whole mission again, as there was no save point between the tunnel and the SOLG.
    My top 5 would be: 1. 5
    2. 6
    3. 0
    4. 4
    5. 7
    All the best 👍👍👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +1

      A man of culture ;]
      Shocked to see AC6 at the #2 spot, what did it for you?

    • @acfnugget7880
      @acfnugget7880 4 роки тому +1

      @@activace It was mostly, the difficulty (for me) the place was absolutely teaming with enemies, which you had to clear out and although the end tunnel run wasn't particularly hard, the cut scene for me was epic!

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +2

      ACF Nugget Ahhh okay I see! That makes a lot of sense, I can’t imagine dodging missiles every 5 seconds on that mission LOL

  • @EAcapuccino
    @EAcapuccino 3 роки тому

    Thank the Japanese company Bandai Namco for such spectacular music and games!
    Don't forget they made Little nightmares 1 & 2
    Across in the UK
    My top 7 -
    Ace combat 5 ;
    🎶🎶 First flight
    Grabacr
    The unsung war (destroy the solg) last mission
    Ace combat zero; 🎶🎶
    Excalibur - sword of annihilation
    Zero - face off against Pixys ADFX-01 Morgan
    Glacial Skies (1st mission)
    Ace combat 7; The lighthouse
    Make no mistake mind - you have good choices 2

  • @Alniemi
    @Alniemi 4 роки тому +1

    LMAO youtube marks this as fallout 4? great list btw
    Ace combat 4 final mission takes the cake for me, was my first AC game so those rose colored classes are preeeeeeettttyyy strong

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +1

      LMFAO changing this right now, good 'ol UA-cam!

  • @geopeliaaow3768
    @geopeliaaow3768 2 роки тому

    I dont know why I love Electrosphere version only (Japanese and international).
    Its unique in anything in my idea.

  • @xablingos
    @xablingos 2 роки тому

    The real ending of the Japanese version of AC 3 gives me nightmares even today.

  • @jocax188723
    @jocax188723 3 роки тому

    My top five:
    5) Chandelier
    4) The Unsung War
    3) Dark Blue
    2) Megalith
    1) Zero

  • @plumdowner1941
    @plumdowner1941 2 роки тому

    Assault Horizon had the best ending because it meant I didn't have to play Assault Horizon anymore.

  • @specta-h2r
    @specta-h2r 4 роки тому +1

    You hit the nail on the head with this list my guy good work

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you my dude! I appreciate it🧡

  • @Simspon96
    @Simspon96 2 роки тому

    Awesome list, not played 6 yet (doing so soon) but other than that agree 100%.
    Have you ever done a top 5 or 10 all missions list?

    • @activace
      @activace  2 роки тому +1

      I have not! Good idea though...

  • @marcoskatsuragi
    @marcoskatsuragi Рік тому

    For me i'm take Geopelia or Electrosphere of Ace Combat 3. The first just by the difficult itself, the second by the plot twist. In fact, there no Ace Combat with a bad ending mission.

  • @jeuryrabassa9534
    @jeuryrabassa9534 3 роки тому

    Ace Combat 4 and 5 are my favorite final missions.

  • @chainz983
    @chainz983 3 роки тому

    ACES still makes me teary eye'd

  • @shaynejasewicz848
    @shaynejasewicz848 3 роки тому

    Agree but what game was it the final boss was a massive round Flying Fortress either the very last mission or 2nd to the last can't remember the name

  • @sethmcintyre871
    @sethmcintyre871 3 роки тому

    Don't forget the last mission in Ace Combat 6 is the Enemies nation last stand and if they fail there nation will die.

  • @captain_toonces_8041
    @captain_toonces_8041 3 роки тому

    Next final boss. Belka takes back south Belka and you fight Razgriz Squadron.

  • @Sammysnows
    @Sammysnows Рік тому

    ace combat 3 : all ending especially Ouroboros.
    Ace combat X : Alect squadron in Fenrir
    Ace combat 5 : well the same
    Ace combat 4 : NOSTALGIA of Ace combat 2 since the fortress has the same design
    Ace combat Zero : this is the only fight at the ace difficulty you actually doing medical-style lance jousting but instead of horse and lance, it's a plane with missiles at phase 3.

  • @fallen_knight_18
    @fallen_knight_18 4 роки тому +1

    Zero final boss was my favorite and 5

    • @Ronnie_Darko
      @Ronnie_Darko 4 роки тому

      had some of the hardest pilots to

    • @fallen_knight_18
      @fallen_knight_18 4 роки тому

      @@Ronnie_Darko only in The Demon of the Round Table

  • @noahezer9295
    @noahezer9295 2 роки тому

    3:33 activeace: THE BELKANS DID NOTHING WRONG !
    Me: Well how about Waldreich and the invasion of its neighbors you fool.

  • @thegamers_idone4624
    @thegamers_idone4624 2 роки тому

    5:59 Kei Nagase (Edge) ?
    From Ace Combat 5 ? 😯😯

  • @YoRHaUnit2Babe
    @YoRHaUnit2Babe 2 роки тому

    Is your outro Net Zone's Lo-Fi?

  • @linkkicksu
    @linkkicksu 4 роки тому

    I dunno why but AC7's story just never gripped me like 4, 5 or Zero's.
    It sort of felt rushed, getting thrown from one squadron to the next with no time for character development aside from maybe Count, with all the other characters being one-note Flanders who only have a single character trait that they repeat over and over.

  • @sky_professor3051
    @sky_professor3051 4 роки тому

    They should have made Kei Nagase a lieutenant colonel or at least a major.

  • @jeuryrabassa9534
    @jeuryrabassa9534 3 роки тому

    Megalith: Death Star Trench Run.

  • @elkalope4266
    @elkalope4266 4 роки тому +1

    Agreed

  • @JohnSmith-ip6kc
    @JohnSmith-ip6kc 8 місяців тому

    Ace Combat 5 was the BEST finale by FAAAAR

  • @somedudethatripsplanetinha4221
    @somedudethatripsplanetinha4221 5 місяців тому

    destruction of borders

  • @TheMaundy69
    @TheMaundy69 4 роки тому

    the chandelier in ace 6 wasn't easy first time ngl

  • @xnomdfrost1938
    @xnomdfrost1938 2 роки тому

    Nobody wants to mention that the SOLG could be destroyed by flying inside it and shooting its core at the end of it???
    okay

  • @Tetemovies4
    @Tetemovies4 Рік тому

    Probably the only ranking where Joint Assault could score higher than X

  • @exukvera
    @exukvera 3 роки тому

    Watame: Belka wa warukunai wo neeeeee.

  • @152mmapfsds
    @152mmapfsds 4 роки тому

    Yes, Chandelier

  • @StealthCloudchaser
    @StealthCloudchaser 4 роки тому +1

    >

  • @rikotheman2629
    @rikotheman2629 2 роки тому

    You caught a follow for this vid

  • @ian1231100
    @ian1231100 4 роки тому

    But what about the worst/least-best final missions?

  • @ferrolon1795
    @ferrolon1795 4 роки тому +4

    Too bad Daredevil isn't the final mission of AC7

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +2

      I liked how it ended tho

  • @commocionador1862
    @commocionador1862 3 роки тому +1

    Ace combat x batle fenrrir

  • @matheuscarmo6743
    @matheuscarmo6743 4 роки тому +1

    Nice channel bro

  • @H9092-2
    @H9092-2 2 роки тому

    6: Kings.

  • @artyaamadman5387
    @artyaamadman5387 Рік тому

    If only ace combat 5 ai have same level with ace combat zero ai

  • @ameemrashaad2038
    @ameemrashaad2038 2 роки тому

    Wait Zero 's boss was difficult? I thought it was easy peasy and was short 😂

  • @DatGuyTank45
    @DatGuyTank45 3 роки тому

    4 and zero should get remasters

  • @gabrielfiol2311
    @gabrielfiol2311 2 роки тому

    Megalith is way too low, it literally paved the way for everything else on the list. I agree with AC5 at #1 tho

  • @zoneofendless.
    @zoneofendless. 4 роки тому

    Sulejmani was a pain in the ass.

  • @koya7273
    @koya7273 2 роки тому

    So I guess you just didn't play the electrosphere...

  • @definitelypeacock
    @definitelypeacock 2 роки тому

    Nah, I prefer zero over 7's ending

  • @noblesol6275
    @noblesol6275 3 роки тому

    ace combat AH just had a good soundtrack, it wasn’t even an ace combat game tbh

  • @electrohalo8798
    @electrohalo8798 3 роки тому

    *its a reqium*

  • @kaspervletter290
    @kaspervletter290 3 роки тому

    Why do you include a game you never played?

  • @zenyousapprentice3732
    @zenyousapprentice3732 4 роки тому

    Sorry, but no, you are wrong.

  • @tipoima
    @tipoima 4 роки тому +1

    My opinions:
    Pixy's third stage IS SO DAMN OBNOXIOUS it automatically puts AC:Z on the very bottom of the list. Yes, below Assault Horizon and scripted DFM crap.
    Because suuure let's make the only part you can hit be the one part YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OVER. The entirety of that boss fight comes down to whether or not Pixy feels merciful enough to actually fly towards you for a change. And then doesn't feel like turning away by like 5 degrees making your fire absolutely pointless. All under a stupid timer. If I could at least use machine guns (which are apparently also affected by ECM now???) I'd let Zero get away with it. But noo, it's all AI rng. And why the hell would Pixy even face towards you anyway? How fucked in the head would he need to be to waste his entire operation to have a dick measuring contest with Cipher? So stupid.
    I don't think it's really fair to count the Grunder assault as part of 5's final mission. I've always only seen the SOLG battle as the final mission (even the game treats them as separate). And oh boy it's bad. "WE ARE THE ANGRY BELKAN ACES AND WE ARE GON-" aaand they are dead. You can seriously wipe half of their entire squadron in 5 seconds because they don't have half a brain to dodge. Even dumber with Falken, you can wipe them off before they even finish their intro dialogue.
    The SOLG itself is also a pushover. Falling debris is hardly a threat and you can take the shortcut and just oneshot it from behind.
    Never played AC2/3 but my top would be
    5: Unsung War (without counting ACES part)
    4: Megalith
    3: End of Deception II
    2: Dark Blue
    1: Chandelier (never played 6 either, but just watching it gives me chills)
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    0: Ten Million Relief Plan, as an honorary final (SP) mission. My top, I do what I want.

    • @activace
      @activace  4 роки тому +1

      LMFAO I feel that about Zero, it was a pain. HIGHLY recommend that you play AC3 when you get the chance. The story is probably one of the best, if not, one of my favorites in the series.

    • @tipoima
      @tipoima 4 роки тому

      @@activace I've tried playing it, actually. But trying to actually fly was making it seem more of a chore than a game. Maybe it's easier with a controller, but idk.
      And the story was...to put it simply, it felt like I missed some major exposition. I have all these cutscenes with characters I never met, talking about things I don't know about. The fact that the translation patch is very selective in which parts of in-game "database" thing are translated didn't help at all.