Let's not forget, the emir of Zaragoza was a vassal to Alfonso king of León and Castile. Rodrigo Díaz choose to offer his service to someone who wouldn't attack Castile.
thank you for your lectures. I lived in spain in the mid 1990s and the attitude was while he was a mercenary, a product of his time; he was still instrumental in preventing a moorish resurgence within spain and they would always be grateful to him for that.
The thing is that generally all European royal families descend from El Cid, because his family had intermarried with the crown of Castille after his death. So everyone that has some degree of royal blood is by definition also a descendent of El Cid, Charlemagne and most other Great Kings of old.
There was not " Spain" yet in his times. Do not mix history with lame nationalism / En aquella época ni siquiera existía España como tal... así que no mezcles historia con nacionalismo barato actual, que se te ve el plumero.
Sometimes being a mercenary lets you have freedom of choices - you don't have to be beholden to a corrupt state. Based on what I've seen, I think he was an honorable and heroic - if flawed - man who was also a mercenary.
As Spanish we are tought he was both, a product of his times. But we see him as a hero because our country wouldn't exist without his heroic figure. "El cantar de mio Cid" is an obligatory reading in school here and a cool one for that mater. I don't know how difficult can be for english speakers but please read it if you can.
Those myths are reflecting our times. One is from brutal but noble times. The other is from nihilistic and materialistic times. Its also funny how modern people can think that people from old ages had simmillar view on religion and sense of life to their own, but also on other hand they think that the same people were much less intelligent than they are.
People are never one dimensional. El Cid was most likely a bit of both noble knight and mercenary who wanted to be paid. He was a human being like the rest of us, and we all have both virtues and flaws.
The reason why El Cid, Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar, as the Ballad says is because the nobility close tho the king accused him to keep part of the loot that the city of Sevilla has to pay... So he was exiled, as the Law of his time, in less than nine days -the common law was one month...-, and has to defend publicly his honor as a knight. Since then he used to send the loot of the king every time he wan a battle... After that he was forgiven by the king, and always his honor and values were and example of a real knigth. The second part of the Cantar, the long ballad in verse, the knigth revenge the rape of his daugthers, Elvira and Sol, by the infants of Carrión. He defends his personal honor, this time, and doing so, by Law, a fight by sword between three of his men and the rapers, he finally got married her daugthers to the royalty of Navarra and Aragón.
To Real Crusades History and the audiences reading this comment, I'm not sure how many of you are fans of the TV show "Forged In Fire", but I've been watching that show since day one (and I LOVE it!) and I've got a really cool update for you guys regarding El Cid. A few days back, I had an idea for a Reconquista Edition of an episode of Forged In Fire. The four blacksmiths/bladesmiths would each pick a forging technique they would use or some type of Damascus Pattern they would need to forge, but whichever one they picked, they would also be choosing one of the four main orders of Spanish Knights during the Reconquista to represent for the duration of that episode (until they got eliminated): The Knights Of Santiago, the Knights Of Calatrava, the Knights of Montesa, and the Knights Of Alcantara. And when it got down to the final two contestants, the Round Three Judge's Choice Weapon would be one of El Cid's two swords (either his Tizona or his Colada). Well, I just today found out that El Cid's Tizona WILL be the Round Three weapon of the episode of Forged In Fire airing (I think) November 6th! How cool is that?
I've obviously come across El Cid while reading books about Medieval history, but the most I've ever gotten was the idea of him being almost a mythical warrior of great skill.
Black Spanish Legend, the original medieval poem tells the facts of battles, behaviours and other historical facts. The song of the Cid tells the idea of honour, his Failures and successes. The Cid was a true hero.
Great conversation about El Cid. I am teaching about the development of chivalry and the historical and legendary figures that help to define it. This documentary is a well articulated explanation of El Cid
¿THEY DARE QUESTION MY SERVITUTE TO THE EMIR OF ZARAGOZA? ¡What thoust not know is that by serving Zaragoza I serve the interest of the very Kingdom that exiled me!
Game of Thrones was inspired by many real life historical events but idk about lotr. I know the battle of gondor seems to have taken from the battle of vienna but thats about it
Nice content! Have seen all your videos I feel you are always going around similar topics of the Crusades? I would love to hear your narration about the Portuguese help to Ethiopia against the Ottomans - Discovery age was boosted by spreading catholicism and find besides the search of Priest John that had according to legends had a huge army that would help against the ottomans.
He was born Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar. For many years he was known as El Campeador, which means "the Fighter", in reference to his brilliance as a general. Once he conquered Valencia, he was known as El Cid, which roughly translates to "the Lord" or "the Boss".
Eeeeew he's wearing a suit! Totally ruined the mood for me. Wear chain mail next time. Anyone who leaves behind cool swords like that is ok with me, whatever mantle he wore. Why does it sometimes feel like the middle ages had more freedom than we do?
Because you are a peasant, comparing yourself to nobles. The time doesn't matter much, it's your relative standing within your time. Try comparing yourself to the working stiffs of the 11th Century. Get up, go to work, take lunch, work more, go back home have dinner, maybe hang out with family or the boys, maybe there's a party once in a while, go to Mass and chill on Sundays, repeat everything on Monday. That's probably your life in a nutshell, just like it's always been for all of us peasants throughout all time. The trick isn't wistfully pining for a time when you'd still be a peasant, or wishing or trying to be a noble. The real trick is realizing that being a peasant is actually the best possibility of all.
He was a mercenary since his services were readily available for the better offers, no matter it were Muslims or Christians. Meaning he didn't have an ideology
Incorrect. His services were not available to anyone, that is a myth. He served as a commander for only one Muslim ruler, the Emir of Zaragoza, and that was just because he'd been exiled from his kingdom. After that, El Cid was reconciled with the King of Castile, and then built up his own power base in Valencia. He showed himself clearly a Christian partisan during his tenure as a ruler in his own right.
With the exception of a few inaccuracies. It was quite enjoyable. However, one should read the Visogotic's Chronicles with a bit more care. The native people's not only the religious differences but racial as well. But that is a trifle. I will repeat; quite enjoyable.
As I stated before; the Iberic kingdoms, saw the occupiers of their land in both racial and religious terms. Too ignore these facts, and impose a modern interpretation slightly deflects from the intent of your lecture. Otherwise I believe you have a good solid piece of work. Bless you and your endeavors.
@@BigHenFor, you seem to forget old boy. he was man of his time. The invaders and occupiers of his land were both alians and enemies. We weed our-selves and your family of these modern day notions.
I'm not used to seeing you in your videos, and not in a suit. Can't you wear some armour or something? At least a surcoat? Have an appropriate cross / flag behind you??
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Let's not forget, the emir of Zaragoza was a vassal to Alfonso king of León and Castile. Rodrigo Díaz choose to offer his service to someone who wouldn't attack Castile.
He said that.
thank you for your lectures. I lived in spain in the mid 1990s and the attitude was while he was a mercenary, a product of his time;
he was still instrumental in preventing a moorish resurgence within spain and they would always be grateful to him for that.
Thanks for the comment. It's interesting to hear how the Spaniards you encountered viewed the legacy of El Cid.
He is one impressive general and warrior definitely one of the MVPs of the reconquista
They say time loves a hero. But only time will tell. If your name resonates with glory after millennia, you're the real deal.
El Cid is one of my ancestors, i found him way back in my familytree
As can everyone. That's just a quirk of ancestry when one goes back that far.
Yeah and I'm dricet descendant of Jesus christ
can t. The difference is that i can proof it!
@@delveggio so can I.
The thing is that generally all European royal families descend from El Cid, because his family had intermarried with the crown of Castille after his death. So everyone that has some degree of royal blood is by definition also a descendent of El Cid, Charlemagne and most other Great Kings of old.
Viva El Cid! Campeon de España
100s of years and people havent forgotten
There was not " Spain" yet in his times. Do not mix history with lame nationalism / En aquella época ni siquiera existía España como tal... así que no mezcles historia con nacionalismo barato actual, que se te ve el plumero.
@@e.p.649 someone got butthurt lol
Sometimes being a mercenary lets you have freedom of choices - you don't have to be beholden to a corrupt state. Based on what I've seen, I think he was an honorable and heroic - if flawed - man who was also a mercenary.
As Spanish we are tought he was both, a product of his times. But we see him as a hero because our country wouldn't exist without his heroic figure. "El cantar de mio Cid" is an obligatory reading in school here and a cool one for that mater. I don't know how difficult can be for english speakers but please read it if you can.
Those myths are reflecting our times.
One is from brutal but noble times.
The other is from nihilistic and materialistic times.
Its also funny how modern people can think that people from old ages had simmillar view on religion and sense of life to their own, but also on other hand they think that the same people were much less intelligent than they are.
People are never one dimensional. El Cid was most likely a bit of both noble knight and mercenary who wanted to be paid. He was a human being like the rest of us, and we all have both virtues and flaws.
@Ali Yaser I would rather go to Folkvangr if I have any say in the matter.
@Ali Yaser I'm a Norse Pagan. The afterlife isn't the focus of my faith, but I do like the sound of Folkvangr.
@Ali Yaser Freedom of Religion exists for a reason.
I learned a lot from this thanks.
You're welcome
Hero and a mercenary!
Thanks for talking about Rodrigo Díaz. You are very well informed.
"Ego Ruderico, simul cum coniuge mea, afirmo oc quod superius scriptum est"
The reason why El Cid, Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar, as the Ballad says is because the nobility close tho the king accused him to keep part of the loot that the city of Sevilla has to pay... So he was exiled, as the Law of his time, in less than nine days -the common law was one month...-, and has to defend publicly his honor as a knight. Since then he used to send the loot of the king every time he wan a battle... After that he was forgiven by the king, and always his honor and values were and example of a real knigth.
The second part of the Cantar, the long ballad in verse, the knigth revenge the rape of his daugthers, Elvira and Sol, by the infants of Carrión. He defends his personal honor, this time, and doing so, by Law, a fight by sword between three of his men and the rapers, he finally got married her daugthers to the royalty of Navarra and Aragón.
Very well explained, thank you. Teza from Sydney Australia
Looking sharp, my man.
Great to see the man behind the voice. Been watching yr Crusade vids for some months now...Excellent work.
I just imagine "El Cid" is medieval Spanish for "the Fonz" 😎⚔️👌
When being fashionable isn't cool anymore.
@@einarabelc5 It may come from the Arabic Al Sayyid
To Real Crusades History and the audiences reading this comment, I'm not sure how many of you are fans of the TV show "Forged In Fire", but I've been watching that show since day one (and I LOVE it!) and I've got a really cool update for you guys regarding El Cid. A few days back, I had an idea for a Reconquista Edition of an episode of Forged In Fire. The four blacksmiths/bladesmiths would each pick a forging technique they would use or some type of Damascus Pattern they would need to forge, but whichever one they picked, they would also be choosing one of the four main orders of Spanish Knights during the Reconquista to represent for the duration of that episode (until they got eliminated): The Knights Of Santiago, the Knights Of Calatrava, the Knights of Montesa, and the Knights Of Alcantara. And when it got down to the final two contestants, the Round Three Judge's Choice Weapon would be one of El Cid's two swords (either his Tizona or his Colada). Well, I just today found out that El Cid's Tizona WILL be the Round Three weapon of the episode of Forged In Fire airing (I think) November 6th! How cool is that?
I've obviously come across El Cid while reading books about Medieval history, but the most I've ever gotten was the idea of him being almost a mythical warrior of great skill.
Black Spanish Legend, the original medieval poem tells the facts of battles, behaviours and other historical facts. The song of the Cid tells the idea of honour, his Failures and successes.
The Cid was a true hero.
@علي ياسر funny, the Rubiano’s commanded the left wing of the assault on Granada 1492.
Awesome, i get to learn about knights and Spain. Awesome. Cheers from Latin america and soon Spain.
Great conversation about El Cid. I am teaching about the development of chivalry and the historical and legendary figures that help to define it. This documentary is a well articulated explanation of El Cid
as always... outstanding and thank you.
¿THEY DARE QUESTION MY SERVITUTE TO THE EMIR OF ZARAGOZA?
¡What thoust not know is that by serving Zaragoza I serve the interest of the very Kingdom that exiled me!
Great video man, love all the crusader history.
Thank you for this explanation; I found in clear and precise. I do not know the history of Spain in this period, but would like to know more.
Excellent, glad to hear the video worked for you
We hear a lot of whom he fought for not so much whom he fought against, a large nuance.
Antoine Lambert
fought.....(sorry for the correction)
@@ChristophersMum thank you, I changed it.
@@antoinelambert938 💞
In Puerto Rico is obligotary to learn El Cantar del Cid in fact is obligatory in all of latin america
El Cid is one of my ancestors, I can prove it. We actually have the genealogy book in our family that goes back to Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar.
that was the real game of thrones. and the lord of the ring etc a million times better than the books
Game of Thrones was inspired by many real life historical events but idk about lotr. I know the battle of gondor seems to have taken from the battle of vienna but thats about it
The major part ot Game of Throne's main story is War of the Roses.
There were a lot of Christian knights selling their services to the Moors,they were called farfans
HERO
Just a brother addicted to crushing...
Nice content! Have seen all your videos I feel you are always going around similar topics of the Crusades? I would love to hear your narration about the Portuguese help to Ethiopia against the Ottomans - Discovery age was boosted by spreading catholicism and find besides the search of Priest John that had according to legends had a huge army that would help against the ottomans.
Both, the thing is he even fought with muslims against the almoravid invaders that were way more radical than the peninsular muslims
El cid what a name
He was born Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar. For many years he was known as El Campeador, which means "the Fighter", in reference to his brilliance as a general. Once he conquered Valencia, he was known as El Cid, which roughly translates to "the Lord" or "the Boss".
Real Crusades History Thanks for the info man appreciate you and your channel
Nice Boss pedal!! It's really easy. BOTH, like most people.
Great Stuff!
Every one wants the hero to represent their ideology.
Not me, just what is right.
@Talûn-karkû The Warchief who?
This is pretty much the same story with the single player campaign of Age of Empires 2: the Conqourers
I'm glad that I'm not the only loser here who heard about El Cid from AoE2
He lived in an ancient time when all Spanish words ended with a consonant.
Amazing
hero no debate needed.
Is that a Buddha in your window?!!!?
Also great vid always good
Nope, that's an old K-State Wilie the Wild Cat.
and thanks!
Are there any books about El Cid you would recommend?
1961,Charlton Heston and Miklós Rózsa.
He's excellent in medieval two
How about Gerald the Fearless next?
Eeeeew he's wearing a suit!
Totally ruined the mood for me. Wear chain mail next time.
Anyone who leaves behind cool swords like that is ok with me, whatever mantle he wore.
Why does it sometimes feel like the middle ages had more freedom than we do?
Because you are a peasant, comparing yourself to nobles. The time doesn't matter much, it's your relative standing within your time.
Try comparing yourself to the working stiffs of the 11th Century. Get up, go to work, take lunch, work more, go back home have dinner, maybe hang out with family or the boys, maybe there's a party once in a while, go to Mass and chill on Sundays, repeat everything on Monday. That's probably your life in a nutshell, just like it's always been for all of us peasants throughout all time.
The trick isn't wistfully pining for a time when you'd still be a peasant, or wishing or trying to be a noble. The real trick is realizing that being a peasant is actually the best possibility of all.
He was a mercenary since his services were readily available for the better offers, no matter it were Muslims or Christians. Meaning he didn't have an ideology
Incorrect. His services were not available to anyone, that is a myth. He served as a commander for only one Muslim ruler, the Emir of Zaragoza, and that was just because he'd been exiled from his kingdom. After that, El Cid was reconciled with the King of Castile, and then built up his own power base in Valencia. He showed himself clearly a Christian partisan during his tenure as a ruler in his own right.
sometimes Mercenary can be heroic !!
For US ... We got D. Afonso Henriques !
I'm a great fan. ua-cam.com/video/oux4FO-PawI/v-deo.html
PORTUGAL CARALHO
Hero
Both!
Short answer: both !
Thanks for debunking that horrible Hollywood film!
Both.....He was both.
Or, both.
Great episode
Plus ultra, heroe 100 %
With the exception of a few inaccuracies. It was quite enjoyable. However, one should read the Visogotic's Chronicles with a bit more care. The native people's not only the religious differences but racial as well. But that is a trifle. I will repeat; quite enjoyable.
What inaccuracies?
As I stated before; the Iberic kingdoms, saw the occupiers of their land in both racial and religious terms. Too ignore these facts, and impose a modern interpretation slightly deflects from the intent of your lecture. Otherwise I believe you have a good solid piece of work. Bless you and your endeavors.
@@horsepukey But El Cid did not. That speaks volumes.
@@BigHenFor, you seem to forget old boy. he was man of his time. The invaders and occupiers of his land were both alians and enemies. We weed our-selves and your family of these modern day notions.
So how is the translation going?
Very slowly. I've been doing a little when I get a chance. But I really appreciate you providing the image scans!
@@RealCrusadesHistory I will have some time tomorrow afternoon if you want a little bit of help.
I bet he is a Norman descendant or used Norman cavalry.
@@countraymond.1v701 The Red heads. Visigoths are Red Heads
@@countraymond.1v701 awesome thanks very informative
Mercenary.
Age of Empires 2
I'm not used to seeing you in your videos, and not in a suit. Can't you wear some armour or something? At least a surcoat? Have an appropriate cross / flag behind you??