Of course it is not putting as much air through as you thought it would. You blocked it with gravel, put a huge paving stone on top and filled the holes of the wheel with more gravel!
My thoughts exactly... at first! Then, as demonstrated at the end of the video, it's working efficiently enough to achieve the desired results. IF he didn't partially block the air vent with pea gravel and the paving stone, the air flow would be way too strong, resulting in an overly stoked fire that would burn through logs faster than you can go fetch more to keep the fire going. Regulating and dispersing the air flow is necessary to feed the fire with enough oxygen to minimize smoke and have a nice flame going, but not too much where the fire is burning too hot and consuming fire logs at an undesirable rate. Another solution that I have resorted to, is to use a reclaimed stainless steel washing machine tub, install some legs on the bottom to raise it off the ground, et voila! The perforations all around the sides of the tub allow plenty of air to infiltrate the fire from all directions achieving an efficient fire with less smoke (dependent on how much wind is blowing). An added advantage is that you can move the fire pit to any location that suits you even while you have a fire going, provided you hold the tub by the bottom of the legs and not the tub itself (or use hand mittens). A lesson I learned the hard way LOL! I even take the tub camping from time to time if I have enough room in the car. There are plenty of YT videos on how to do it. Cheers!
Maybe the gravel does not restrict air flow too much with FIRST fire. But I'm thinking with more and more fires fine ash sinks down and eventually clogs things up.
I was just about to say something along that line. Why do you want to hear all that noise and go through that and ruin the reason for being around the fire.
What’s worse than the fact that the air flow is completely blocked, and will get worse with time as ash works it’s way down into the gravel; is the fact that both the intake and exhaust are exposed to the rain which leads to an underground pipe. Where does he expect all the water to go?
Fun video to watch. I've been building camp fires all my life up at the river and it's usually a no, no to bury it in the ground like that because it kills the draft flow, doesn't burn wood as well and it makes more smoke. If ya get your fire-pit out of the ground and put some bricks underneath for draft air flow - you won't need that 12 volt bilge blower.
I've spent a lot of time planning my air solution for the fire pit I'll be building soon. I think your method failed to give you the results you wanted because you were using non-pressurized air and trying to feed it through a large amount of gravel that likely strangled off the air. With the small gravel, pressurized air would be necessary (I believe). I imagine in time, moisture got in your feeder tube as well. My current plan is to use a system similar to yours with the exception that the tube feeding the fire will be level with the bottom of the fire, located in porous rock and include a series of elbows that will prevent moisture buildup. I'm going to use some 120mm 5v computer fans as modern ones are silent and move a huge amount of cfm. I wanted to say thanks for the upload. I think you're on the cutting edge with a stoking solution. I believe 5 years from now, air supplied fire pits will be the norm (smoke sucks). Cheers
Thank you Anthony. It was a lot of work. There are many critical comments on this video so it is extremely refreshing to hear a little appreciation for the imagination and effort it put into this project. I am very grateful Sir :)
Please watch the brief segment in my follow-up video where I address the concern that blower/ "fan" noise is too loud: ua-cam.com/video/0uGPAkDssls/v-deo.html The sound made by the blower is equal to normal ambient noise levels peaking around 60 decibels. Just for reference, normal conversation is about 60 dB. A lawn mower is about 90 dB. And a loud rock concert is about 120 dB.
I like the tyre rim idea to hold a fire. My fire will be a simple cast iron grate (16 inches long) I purchased through eBay all the way from Northern Ireland to here in Scotland last week. I wanted 18 inch but all out of stock (I think I'm not the only one doing this due to Covid restrictions) I have a paving slab to place it on (plus one protecting the small wall behind) and a few concrete kerbs around the sides and front. One thing leads to another so I also bought a small hatchet to produce some kindling from logs. I'm looking forward to some socially distanced fire-gazing with a coffee or beer during some autumn and winter evenings. I can feel a YT video of the setting up coming on!
You strangled the air path with a pacer and rock.... a simple non fan assisted dakota fire with good ventilation would work 10 times better. Remove some of the rock and give it some good airflow.
Some fancy engineering here no doubt! And your plan certainly solves the problem of smoke, but I found something a whole lot easier. I simply purchased a $15 rechargeable personal cooling fan. I simply open up a little space in the rear of my ring, and hide my fan in a cinder block placed in the back. It does exactly what you're striving to do here, far less expensive, and without all the work. Lets work smart people!
It’s coming up on two years and I’ve had zero issues with airflow. Works like a charm. Thanks for taking the time to comment and inquire greenspiraldragon.
I think ashes with rain will clog everything shut so no air will ever come out. It feels like this fire pit is just too deep. But I like your approach 👍to things.
The vented rain cap in in my left hand at the beginning of the video, (see 0:06). You can see the top of it in the ground at segment 1:51. I hope this helps Anastasia. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thanks for commenting Randy. Rain is not a issue. I placed holes in the tote for drainage and I have very sandy soil that drains incredibly well. Nearly two years and no problems with heavy rain.
You've really over thought that one , #1 - build your fire pit on top of the ground , #2 - leave a couple vent holes in the 1st coarse of brick or block for air . ???
Thanks for your question.. It’s been nearly two years and I’ve never had a problem with water. There is very little water that enters the tote. Also I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. Also my soil is very sandy so it drains very well. So no issues with water. Thanks for commenting.
I AM MAKING ME ONE NOT LIKE THIS BUT JUST THE HOLE.. HARD WORK WILL BE WORTH NO SMOKE.. AND THE COMPANY WILL BE AMAZED NO SMOKE.. . BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.. ALL THIS WORK FOR NO 💨
Great clip mate...... the only issue with using dry stack concrete blocks ( or "cinder" blocks as you Americans call them 😁 ) is that every time they heat them up and subsequently cool back down, more moisture is sucked out of them. You will only be able to do this so many times and then they end up crumbling apart. It's not a matter of if but when. How long it will last all depends on how hot you get your fire and how often you fire it up. Like you've done is great, make the pit larger and then insert a metal "sleeve", pit or like you did - an old truck rim - down inside your block work. Ideally leave a 500mm ( 20 inches ) gap between the blocks and outer edge of the metal pit and fill it with sand, that way the sand acts as an insulator and absorbs some of that heat before it can get out to the blocks drying them as like mentioned. And remember too, the deeper you dig the hole down, the harder it is to scoop out all the old ash and crap. Great clip though champ.
Thank you Grant. I think you’re spot on with your observations. I have not had too much issue with the fire pit fortunately. I appreciate your insights and that you took the time to comment. Thank you!
Why not cut the rim and install a 4” pipe with a screen on the end and just blow air through the sides,,, the paver and all the gravel chocked your air flow meng.... Good job though, some modifications and it should be fire 🔥
Hi Jon. It’s been well over a year and I’ve never had a problem with water. There is very little water that enters the tote. Also I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. So no issues with rain or snow. Thanks for commenting.
Hi Leevi. It’s been well over a year and I’ve never had a problem with water. There is very little water that enters the tote. Also I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. So no issues with rain or snow. Thanks for commenting.
There is very little water that enters the air intake or tote. I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. So no issues with rain or snow. Thanks for commenting
To your point about silence, I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring. The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome.
J Morgan3235 - thank you for your question. First of all, my soil is very sandy and drains very well. Secondly, I did drill several holes in the bottom of the tote. The only source for water is the intake. With a small opening in the intake, very little water can enter. If small quantities of water should enter the tote, it will drain. Note: this fire pit has been in place for over a year with much snow and rain. I’ve checked the tote several times and have never had any accumulation of water in the tote. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Hi BRANDON. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Regarding your question, I’ve had no issues with the fire pit. It’s been nearly 2 years and it continues to work with no issues. The air flow is fine. Thank you for your question and comment.
Sorry it didn’t work out for you The gravel restrict too much air The fan is too noisy What I found work for me is Elevated fire pit Cast iron pipe or galvanized iron pipe going from the side Grate to elevate the wood Big diameter cast iron pipe Like 3 inch or so make natural air movement easier And clean up easier with vacuum cleaner And yeah Elevated fire pit work best Sunken one never work good for me.
Thanks for commenting Sofjan. It’s apparent that you reasoned through this very well. You make a good argument for an above ground fire pit. Thank you Sir!
Metal dryer vent hose??... how long has this been in use? I’m curious, I would think that thin metal would rust thru fairly quickly? With rain water soil saturation, Yes/no?... Its not in contact with the fire you probably could have used PVC ya?
Robert. The pipe that I used was galvanized.According to the following site, “The zinc coating of hot-dipped galvanized steel will last in the harshest soil is 35 to 50 years and in less corrosive soil 75 years or more.” www.bucket-outlet.com/Does-Galvanized-Steel-Rust.htm. This obviously depends on the thickness of the steel. However, I think this pipe will definitely outlast me. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Using galvanized pipe for this might have been an even worse idea. It's well known that galvanized pipe when heated up produces poisonous fumes. I think they call it the welders flu. But I doubt you'll actually have any issue with that, being outside and so away from the piping
Great suggestion! I recently did exactly that and made a follow-up video to that will publish later this month. The main reason was to reduce the noise level of the intake. Rain was/is not an issue. I have made provision for the any water that might make its way in to the air ducts, plus I have very sandy soil that drains extremely well. Thanks for watching and commenting.
First you've created a pressure bomb. PAver and regular brick is porous, and any water caught in there, and exposed to intense heat can explode violently. Two, you basically nullified all your air movement by covering it in pea-gravel. Its getting as much fresh air from the vent, that it would from the surrounding air. Great solution, just poor design.
Ok, make another video and show these folks...use a wire mesh to cover no gravel. What you got should be able to replace a fire pit with a crematorium...200% better with wire mesh or a can with holes lots of holes.
I would not be able to enjoy a campfire with the constant background noise of the electric motor. If it has to be a tradeoff, I'd rather have the smoke. I love the landscaped look though, with the edging and the gravel.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Actually I revised the blower to greatly reduce the background noise. Check out my video here: 🔥 Smokeless Fire Pit IMPROVED! 🔥 ua-cam.com/video/raFyTfEfsEQ/v-deo.html. works great with no noise now.
I kind of hate to state the obvious, but why bother hooking a motorized blower to an activity that is all about peace and quiet? You could just vent a few air intakes from the bottom of the pit to the surface using a dryer vent and not have to deal with the noise.
Hi Dan. To your point about noise, I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring. The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
SithLandlord - Thanks for commenting. The mower's battery was used just for testing. If you watch the remainder of the video you'll see that I run the blower's electrical leads to my battery in my green energy station. It is powered by a DC Wind Turbine. The turbine makes little to no noise. I'm enjoying the "crackling of the fire"
This pipe is going to get blocked by ash and shit. You should put a copper pipe about 2 inches and put it in the side of the tyre rim. I made one like that, never gets blocked and you can adjust the speed.
Absolutely no difference except the sound of a blower that ruins the tranquility of sitting by a fire. Just put two pipes right into the pit with no blower and the fire will pull oxygen through it. Theoretically a blower would work but you covered it up. Its OK though, I have failed on many projects too
To your point about noise, I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring. The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome.
@@BudsSmartHome hey where I work we use a lot of kiln dried wood. Maybe if you live close to a place like that you can get some kiln dried lumber to help stoke the fire.
Please watch the brief segment in my follow-up video where I address the concern that blower/ "fan" noise is too loud: ua-cam.com/video/0uGPAkDssls/v-deo.html The sound made by the blower is equal to normal ambient noise levels peaking around 60 decibels. Just for reference, normal conversation is about 60 dB. A lawn mower is about 90 dB. And a loud rock concert is about 120 dB.
Just doesn't seem efficient, effective, or in anyway a good idea. All parts for this blower system are going to rot out and break in no time. Well except for the plastic tote, but you ruined that by cutting holes in it...lmao
In place over a year now. Still very efficient, effective and no rot. Recently I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring to reduce the blower noise level The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment C DUBZ.
🔥You may enjoy the companion Fire Pit video titled, " Fire Pit Automation~Wireless Blower Switch" found here: ua-cam.com/video/uR0Gh1r__pw/v-deo.html🔥
i love how you explain everything your doing and saying what its for
Of course it is not putting as much air through as you thought it would. You blocked it with gravel, put a huge paving stone on top and filled the holes of the wheel with more gravel!
My thoughts exactly... at first! Then, as demonstrated at the end of the video, it's working efficiently enough to achieve the desired results. IF he didn't partially block the air vent with pea gravel and the paving stone, the air flow would be way too strong, resulting in an overly stoked fire that would burn through logs faster than you can go fetch more to keep the fire going. Regulating and dispersing the air flow is necessary to feed the fire with enough oxygen to minimize smoke and have a nice flame going, but not too much where the fire is burning too hot and consuming fire logs at an undesirable rate.
Another solution that I have resorted to, is to use a reclaimed stainless steel washing machine tub, install some legs on the bottom to raise it off the ground, et voila! The perforations all around the sides of the tub allow plenty of air to infiltrate the fire from all directions achieving an efficient fire with less smoke (dependent on how much wind is blowing). An added advantage is that you can move the fire pit to any location that suits you even while you have a fire going, provided you hold the tub by the bottom of the legs and not the tub itself (or use hand mittens). A lesson I learned the hard way LOL! I even take the tub camping from time to time if I have enough room in the car. There are plenty of YT videos on how to do it. Cheers!
Yeah take that damn patio stone off it and you should have had it as a side feed..
@@Littlelamb2023 No need to be rude about it. He had a plan and carried it out to see how it went.
@@TerryMasri Couldn't he just lower the speed of the blower or turn it off if there was too much draft?
Maybe the gravel does not restrict air flow too much with FIRST fire. But I'm thinking with more and more fires fine ash sinks down and eventually clogs things up.
Awesome work bud!!!
Hey thanks Donny!
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Yes we do!
Just build a fire pit above the ground and leave gaps in the rocks so air can get in
I was just about to say something along that line. Why do you want to hear all that noise and go through that and ruin the reason for being around the fire.
That's how I did mine. It seems to work well.
bingo. This is a horrible idea. He restricted all the air flow and is trying to fore the air in through a tiny fan attached to a noisy lawnmower?
I Live the idea of truck rim!
Thanks!
What’s worse than the fact that the air flow is completely blocked, and will get worse with time as ash works it’s way down into the gravel; is the fact that both the intake and exhaust are exposed to the rain which leads to an underground pipe. Where does he expect all the water to go?
Fun video to watch. I've been building camp fires all my life up at the river and it's usually a no, no to bury it in the ground like that because it kills the draft flow, doesn't burn wood as well and it makes more smoke. If ya get your fire-pit out of the ground and put some bricks underneath for draft air flow - you won't need that 12 volt bilge blower.
Thanks for watching Orion
This worked like a charm! Maybe it’s not what you expected but it definitely stokes the fire 🔥
Thanks Seth!
you covered everything up ???
Ha, while I may not do exactly as you've done, your DIY video gave me lots of ideas! Thank you for posting.
You’re welcome. Glad it helped!
You’re welcome. Glad it helped!
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Cool idea!
Thank you!
I've spent a lot of time planning my air solution for the fire pit I'll be building soon. I think your method failed to give you the results you wanted because you were using non-pressurized air and trying to feed it through a large amount of gravel that likely strangled off the air. With the small gravel, pressurized air would be necessary (I believe). I imagine in time, moisture got in your feeder tube as well. My current plan is to use a system similar to yours with the exception that the tube feeding the fire will be level with the bottom of the fire, located in porous rock and include a series of elbows that will prevent moisture buildup. I'm going to use some 120mm 5v computer fans as modern ones are silent and move a huge amount of cfm. I wanted to say thanks for the upload. I think you're on the cutting edge with a stoking solution. I believe 5 years from now, air supplied fire pits will be the norm (smoke sucks). Cheers
Hi Jeremy, would you be able to share some pics of the elbows and rest of the setup? How did this end up working for you? Thanks.
I was just thinking this, A computer fan!!
Pretty nice video - cool idea.
Thank you Anthony. It was a lot of work. There are many critical comments on this video so it is extremely refreshing to hear a little appreciation for the imagination and effort it put into this project. I am very grateful Sir :)
Good luck trying this in MA
Who wants to listen to that hum from the fam
Please watch the brief segment in my follow-up video where I address the concern that blower/ "fan" noise is too loud: ua-cam.com/video/0uGPAkDssls/v-deo.html The sound made by the blower is equal to normal ambient noise levels peaking around 60 decibels. Just for reference, normal conversation is about 60 dB. A lawn mower is about 90 dB. And a loud rock concert is about 120 dB.
I really enjoyed the detail you put into the video and I sure could tell the difference.
Thank you Scott. I’m glad it was helpful to you.
I wonder if weed block fabric under stone lid might protect the bin🤔
Too hot I believe. A lot of that fabric has material that may melt.
In place of the pea gravel below the fire pit you could have used #2 washed gravel to allow additional combustion airflow.
Yo, pass me a beer!....
My wife: WHAT??.! ?... I can't hear you.
hhahahahaa
I like the tyre rim idea to hold a fire. My fire will be a simple cast iron grate (16 inches long) I purchased through eBay all the way from Northern Ireland to here in Scotland last week. I wanted 18 inch but all out of stock (I think I'm not the only one doing this due to Covid restrictions) I have a paving slab to place it on (plus one protecting the small wall behind) and a few concrete kerbs around the sides and front. One thing leads to another so I also bought a small hatchet to produce some kindling from logs. I'm looking forward to some socially distanced fire-gazing with a coffee or beer during some autumn and winter evenings. I can feel a YT video of the setting up coming on!
Sounds great Terry. I wish I could enjoy a coffee or beer with you around the fire ring. Best of luck with your YT Vid!
@@BudsSmartHome Thanks Bud! I'll toast you and have to drink yours, unfortunately, pal! All the best to you and keep well.
Sounds good Terry 👍
this dude loves pea gravel
Pea gravel is great! Thanks for watching and commenting Riley!
You strangled the air path with a pacer and rock.... a simple non fan assisted dakota fire with good ventilation would work 10 times better. Remove some of the rock and give it some good airflow.
MlTCHB that’s what I was going to say
Totally what I have. It gets hot enough to vitrfy the Earth's clay, and those bits do a great job of stopping ashes from clogging the airflow.
Yep, came here to say this but seen this comment. Well said
Wow. Excellent work. Great idea. I would say it is a success.
Thanks LD!
It make even noise 😝
Thanks for commenting Esmael.
Some fancy engineering here no doubt! And your plan certainly solves the problem of smoke, but I found something a whole lot easier. I simply purchased a $15 rechargeable personal cooling fan. I simply open up a little space in the rear of my ring, and hide my fan in a cinder block placed in the back. It does exactly what you're striving to do here, far less expensive, and without all the work. Lets work smart people!
One Life2Live - Great idea!
How do ypu prevent rainwater getting in your air intake side? Seems like that would destroy your motor?
Pea gravel is self-compacting
Thank you Jeffery. Appreciate you taking the time to comment.
Larger size stone and turret vents drill into the truck rim would really help
Yep 👍 Thanks Joe.
That is a lot of weight of dirt on that thin pipe. The gravel is going to clog up real fast with ashes. Let us know how long it last.
It’s coming up on two years and I’ve had zero issues with airflow. Works like a charm. Thanks for taking the time to comment and inquire greenspiraldragon.
It's helping stoke the fire but it wouldn't do anything in less then ideal condition where stoking the fire with extra air is needed.
Thanks for commenting Jonathan.
I'm sorry to see that it didn't quite have the output and result you were looking for. Keep us posted on any modifications you make!
I think ashes with rain will clog everything shut so no air will ever come out. It feels like this fire pit is just too deep. But I like your approach 👍to things.
Thanks for commenting Sergei. I'm in my second year with the fire pit and it is working fine.
I wonder how it would work with just a tube and no blower
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What is a vented rain cap? Please show its assembly. Does it have any moving parts?
The vented rain cap in in my left hand at the beginning of the video, (see 0:06). You can see the top of it in the ground at segment 1:51. I hope this helps Anastasia. Thanks for watching and commenting.
If you build the fire pit at ground level, and not so deep, that would help considerably with oxygen flow And a hit fire has far less smoke.
Thanks for watching and commenting Michael
just like our ancient ancestors going down to Lowes for "parts" to have a fire
I tried rubbing to sticks together. It just didn’t work out.
Looks like your in an area where rain, possibly heavy rain could become an issue
Thanks for commenting Randy. Rain is not a issue. I placed holes in the tote for drainage and I have very sandy soil that drains incredibly well. Nearly two years and no problems with heavy rain.
You've really over thought that one , #1 - build your fire pit on top of the ground , #2 - leave a couple vent holes in the 1st coarse of brick or block for air . ???
Thanks for commenting M A Zopp. Was going for a dakota style pit with some boost. It works for me.
Nice vid but What happens when it rains and water siphons through the pipe into your blower?
Thanks for your question.. It’s been nearly two years and I’ve never had a problem with water. There is very little water that enters the tote. Also I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. Also my soil is very sandy so it drains very well. So no issues with water. Thanks for commenting.
I will just learn to deal with the smoke!
I AM MAKING ME ONE NOT LIKE THIS BUT JUST THE HOLE.. HARD WORK WILL BE WORTH NO SMOKE.. AND THE COMPANY WILL BE AMAZED NO SMOKE.. . BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.. ALL THIS WORK FOR NO 💨
I just took the Dakota Fire Pit concept and added a little power to it. It works great. I enjoy it. 🔥
Need freely moving air . Rain cap needs to be above gravel.
Damn that's good soil. My soil will break your heart.
Mine will break you back
Snap! Mine is Scottish Lanarkshire grey clay. When I first dug it about 40 years ago, I had to turn each cube by hand!
Great clip mate...... the only issue with using dry stack concrete blocks ( or "cinder" blocks as you Americans call them 😁 ) is that every time they heat them up and subsequently cool back down, more moisture is sucked out of them. You will only be able to do this so many times and then they end up crumbling apart. It's not a matter of if but when. How long it will last all depends on how hot you get your fire and how often you fire it up. Like you've done is great, make the pit larger and then insert a metal "sleeve", pit or like you did - an old truck rim - down inside your block work.
Ideally leave a 500mm ( 20 inches ) gap between the blocks and outer edge of the metal pit and fill it with sand, that way the sand acts as an insulator and absorbs some of that heat before it can get out to the blocks drying them as like mentioned. And remember too, the deeper you dig the hole down, the harder it is to scoop out all the old ash and crap. Great clip though champ.
Thank you Grant. I think you’re spot on with your observations. I have not had too much issue with the fire pit fortunately. I appreciate your insights and that you took the time to comment. Thank you!
Why not cut the rim and install a 4” pipe with a screen on the end and just blow air through the sides,,, the paver and all the gravel chocked your air flow meng.... Good job though, some modifications and it should be fire 🔥
How to switch your cracking fire anbient noice for a roaring blower engine 😪 besides with all that gravel there is not much air left
Thanks for watching and commenting.
What about heavy rain ? How is this Electric device, in the ground, stay protected from heavy rain?
Hi Jon. It’s been well over a year and I’ve never had a problem with water. There is very little water that enters the tote. Also I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. So no issues with rain or snow. Thanks for commenting.
What do you do about rain getting in the inlet
Hi Leevi. It’s been well over a year and I’ve never had a problem with water. There is very little water that enters the tote. Also I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. So no issues with rain or snow. Thanks for commenting.
I've seen so many varietions of these and I always have to ask, how does water stay out of it?
There is very little water that enters the air intake or tote. I have several small holes drilled in the bottom of that tote that will drain any moisture enters the tote. So no issues with rain or snow. Thanks for commenting
Good idea.. when I want a fire , I want it in silence. That noise would drive me nuts. I would rather deal with the smoke.
To your point about silence, I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring. The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome.
What happens when rains? How do you keep the water from going into the tote and fan?
J Morgan3235 - thank you for your question. First of all, my soil is very sandy and drains very well. Secondly, I did drill several holes in the bottom of the tote. The only source for water is the intake. With a small opening in the intake, very little water can enter. If small quantities of water should enter the tote, it will drain. Note: this fire pit has been in place for over a year with much snow and rain. I’ve checked the tote several times and have never had any accumulation of water in the tote. Thank you for watching and commenting.
The position of the air flow pipe should be low on the side, not underneath. Seems like you’re trying for the Dakota fire hole. Also its covered up.
Way too much wood to start a fire. That’s why you get that type of smoke.
Why go through all that trouble just to clog it up with gravel & cover it with a paver? What sense does that make?
Hi BRANDON. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Regarding your question, I’ve had no issues with the fire pit. It’s been nearly 2 years and it continues to work with no issues. The air flow is fine. Thank you for your question and comment.
"Some green energy!" Ahahahahaaa!!!
Green energy converted to marshmallow roster!
good luck mowing
The reason it's smoky, is because as you said it burns slowly. The pit is too deep and it doesn't get enough air from the sides.
Tomahawk Tom - Correct. Thus the need for increased airflow. Thanks, Tom
Sorry it didn’t work out for you
The gravel restrict too much air
The fan is too noisy
What I found work for me is
Elevated fire pit
Cast iron pipe or galvanized iron pipe going from the side
Grate to elevate the wood
Big diameter cast iron pipe
Like 3 inch or so make natural air movement easier
And clean up easier with vacuum cleaner
And yeah
Elevated fire pit work best
Sunken one never work good for me.
Thanks for commenting Sofjan. It’s apparent that you reasoned through this very well. You make a good argument for an above ground fire pit. Thank you Sir!
What about the flood coming?
Let me guess. Ricky Smith is a fictitious name. Am I right? Your real name is Noah. You'd better get the ark done before that flood comes!
It’s noisy no?
Hello Bman - No it is not noisy since I made an improvement. Please watch the following improvement video: ua-cam.com/video/raFyTfEfsEQ/v-deo.html
fire pit is too small for big logs that's why it smokes .. I have similar design with 4 level blocks and wider and it dosent smoke
Metal dryer vent hose??... how long has this been in use? I’m curious, I would think that thin metal would rust thru fairly quickly? With rain water soil saturation, Yes/no?...
Its not in contact with the fire you probably could have used PVC ya?
Sheet metal pipe will rot out in a year or two.
Robert. The pipe that I used was galvanized.According to the following site, “The zinc coating of hot-dipped galvanized steel will last in the harshest soil is 35 to 50 years and in less corrosive soil 75 years or more.” www.bucket-outlet.com/Does-Galvanized-Steel-Rust.htm. This obviously depends on the thickness of the steel. However, I think this pipe will definitely outlast me. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Using galvanized pipe for this might have been an even worse idea. It's well known that galvanized pipe when heated up produces poisonous fumes. I think they call it the welders flu. But I doubt you'll actually have any issue with that, being outside and so away from the piping
This would be underwater here…
You must have a a lot of clay
Hi,!
Product by a cover space over smook outlet against rain.
Great suggestion! I recently did exactly that and made a follow-up video to that will publish later this month. The main reason was to reduce the noise level of the intake. Rain was/is not an issue. I have made provision for the any water that might make its way in to the air ducts, plus I have very sandy soil that drains extremely well. Thanks for watching and commenting.
First you've created a pressure bomb. PAver and regular brick is porous, and any water caught in there, and exposed to intense heat can explode violently. Two, you basically nullified all your air movement by covering it in pea-gravel. Its getting as much fresh air from the vent, that it would from the surrounding air. Great solution, just poor design.
Ok, make another video and show these folks...use a wire mesh to cover no gravel. What you got should be able to replace a fire pit with a crematorium...200% better with wire mesh or a can with holes lots of holes.
Thanks for the tip James. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
I would not be able to enjoy a campfire with the constant background noise of the electric motor. If it has to be a tradeoff, I'd rather have the smoke. I love the landscaped look though, with the edging and the gravel.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Actually I revised the blower to greatly reduce the background noise. Check out my video here: 🔥 Smokeless Fire Pit IMPROVED! 🔥 ua-cam.com/video/raFyTfEfsEQ/v-deo.html. works great with no noise now.
you blocked the air flow I am pretty sure it force back air on air blower..
Agreed. I’m working on a design change to fix that. Stay tuned SK. Thanks for watching and commenting
I kind of hate to state the obvious, but why bother hooking a motorized blower to an activity that is all about peace and quiet? You could just vent a few air intakes from the bottom of the pit to the surface using a dryer vent and not have to deal with the noise.
Something else that is glaringly evident is that this guy would make an awesome neighbor!
Hi Dan. To your point about noise, I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring. The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Who wants to sit by a fire with a loud noisy lawnmower next to them? I love the crackling of a fire, which you can't really hear over the noise.
SithLandlord - Thanks for commenting. The mower's battery was used just for testing. If you watch the remainder of the video you'll see that I run the blower's electrical leads to my battery in my green energy station. It is powered by a DC Wind Turbine. The turbine makes little to no noise. I'm enjoying the "crackling of the fire"
Buy a cordless leaf blower.
More Power!!
On the other hand the wood is pretty wet so that doesn’t help.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to commentJoe👍
First, all this work and forced to use electricity when all you need to do is dry your wood out. Dry wood(
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
You should have left all that gravel out. I don't see why you would cover the exhaust with a brick paver but your intake has nothing on it...
This pipe is going to get blocked by ash and shit. You should put a copper pipe about 2 inches and put it in the side of the tyre rim. I made one like that, never gets blocked and you can adjust the speed.
Should have used coarse gravel
I am not experiencing any issues a year later with the current aggregate. Thanks for watching and commenting Mike.
What if your fire pit is a field?
Absolutely no difference except the sound of a blower that ruins the tranquility of sitting by a fire. Just put two pipes right into the pit with no blower and the fire will pull oxygen through it. Theoretically a blower would work but you covered it up. Its OK though, I have failed on many projects too
To your point about noise, I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring. The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome.
I think it's going to catch rain water, something to think on
You got to be kidding!! I see smoke?????????
Combustion triangle......
build top down fires. No smoke.
Your fire's not hot enough. That's why it's smoking. Put the big logs on the bottom, and small ones on the top.
Thank you Pirpi
Propane = No Smoke !
except your ears will chug smoke when you keep paying the propane bill
Too much unnecessary work ! Get rid of the rim and let the bricks a little bit more spaces to get air blowing through . Done .
Thanks for watching and commenting John.
You need better fire wood man. Get some ash wood
Good advice. Thanks Tyler!
@@BudsSmartHome hey where I work we use a lot of kiln dried wood. Maybe if you live close to a place like that you can get some kiln dried lumber to help stoke the fire.
@@edalsept4853- That is excellent advice Sir. Thanks!
@@BudsSmartHome hey if you have instructions on that windmill I would appreciate seeing those. Thank you sir.
@@edalsept4853 - you bet
Need bigger rocks
Thanks for watching and commenting Eddie.
i doubt this worked at all... not enough air cause of pea gravel. should have fire built on a metal grate with pipe under. what a waste of time.
Thanks Patrick!
I wouldnt do that
Please watch the brief segment in my follow-up video where I address the concern that blower/ "fan" noise is too loud: ua-cam.com/video/0uGPAkDssls/v-deo.html The sound made by the blower is equal to normal ambient noise levels peaking around 60 decibels. Just for reference, normal conversation is about 60 dB. A lawn mower is about 90 dB. And a loud rock concert is about 120 dB.
Just doesn't seem efficient, effective, or in anyway a good idea. All parts for this blower system are going to rot out and break in no time. Well except for the plastic tote, but you ruined that by cutting holes in it...lmao
In place over a year now. Still very efficient, effective and no rot. Recently I recently extended the air intake portal further away form the fire ring to reduce the blower noise level The intake port is now positioned under the landscaped area near the pit. It is covered by a layer of landscape barrier cloth and brick chips, (see the area at the rear of my lawn tractor at the video marker 6:12 in the "Smokeless Fire Pit Video"). Additionally, I added sound insulation foam inside the very end of the air intake pipe. The noise level is whisper quiet and the air flow is still very effective. I am very pleased with the outcome. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment C DUBZ.
@@BudsSmartHome Make Ann update video explaining all of your upgrades
Really loud
Agreed. Check out me follow-up video where I made some changes to substantially reduce the noise. ua-cam.com/video/raFyTfEfsEQ/v-deo.html
What a ridiculous amount of wasted energy 🤣😂 so unnecessary, if you build your firepit with airflow in mind in the first place 🙈
Thanks for watching and commenting.
laughing my bum off.
get back to basics buddy.
feed the the fire, reburn the smoke/gasses with a properly vented pit.
Thanks for taking the time to comment MegaTapdog.
Big Fail
Thanks for watching and commenting Bill.
Fail
Thanks for watching and commenting Andre.
I think that was a Stupid idea I ever seen..