Yeah but Clubber beat an untrained Rocky, regardless if Rocky was not in the proper mindset. This alone does not hold any ground for comparison against Ivan Drago.
@@SKYMONKEY42 I actually DISAGREED with this video. I do not think Clubber would even have lasted as long as they said since he only made it to round 3 against Rocky.
@@wes276 oh yes definitely. Clubber is waaaaaay to strong for tommy. Tommy is a thug and Clubber is like a gold chain wearing thug, straight outta prison with multiple griefs burdening his mind. Tommy would be chewed up and spat out. that being said, it would probably start out crazy. I like to think this is the fight the referee had to break apart multiple times because it kept getting scrappy, dirty and full of grappling which yes I know is totally not part of boxing and is part of my point. the MMA fighters of the Rocky universe.
Trust me, roids are not magic. A person still has to train hard and he had great genetics. They just gave him them to make him EVEN STRONGER. This is not some "Batman and Robin" movie starring George Clooney where when Bane runs out of his roids he shrinks down to almost nothing. He would have just been not quite as strong. He still would have beaten everyone except for Rocky without the roids.
@@Zurround It has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but that caricature of Bane was almost as bad as the travesties in recent Marvel movies (Captainette Marvel, Thor - Cunts & Blunders, the SubMexican, etc.).
@@Zurround It's off the subject, but that was a complete caricature of Bane - almost as bad as the ones in recent movies (Captainette Marvel, CuntaThor, the SubMexican, etc.). It would be better if such movies didn't even exist.
Drago NEVER Fought Anyone as strong and powerful as Clubber Lang. Lang would've had absolutely No Fear of him and getting hit by Drago would've just Enraged him further. Ivan was an Amateur Champion and didn't have the Boxing Experience that Clubber had. In the original story, Clubber Lang was in Prison and that is where he became a Boxing Champion for the first time. This was CUT from ROCKY 3, but it definitely would've helped to explain Clubber's ruthless style and attitude. Drago was an incredibly powerful man, but he was a sheltered and protected athlete. Clubber came from the gutters of Chicago and Prison, to KO the World Heavyweight Champion, Rocky Balboa in his Prime. Remember that Rocky is famous for having the Greatest Chin in the ROCKYUNIVERSE. Apollo in his Prime couldn't Knock him out and had 2 chances, and Drago with All of his Steroids couldn't Knock Rocky out either. When Clubber Lang STANDS UP to Ivan Drago, and Hits him Harder than Anyone he's ever fought before, and Cuts his face up and bruises his ribs... Ivan the Amateur Champion will immediately lose all of his Confidence and quickly be intimidated by Clubber when his Scientific Training Crumbles. Clubber Lang wins by TKO!
No Way Clubber beat a Rocky who had barley trained and who loosed his trainer Mickey i say he was about 40% of his normal self in that fight! Drago went on 15 rounds with the most trained and most determened Rocky! Clubber does not have Rockys chin and hes not very good at dodging Drago has superior hitting power and reach Drago wins small diff!
@jimmyj5035 the script writers made it very clear how dangerous Ivan Drago was. There is no way in hell that Clubber Lang would win, regardless, where he came from. He showed how little stamina he has, and he would not knock out Ivan Drago before getting knocked out himself. The only reason why Rocky didn’t get knocked out is because the script didn’t allow it. Clubber Lang didn’t give Rocky any kind of brain injury like Ivan Drago did As stated in Rocky 5, not to mention Creed 2 made it clear that Ivan Drago broke things in Rocky that he never fully recovered from. The difference is vast. You gotta look at all the details before you come to this conclusion.
In my opinion dragos battle iq range and the fact even without steroids he was strong when he was in the military. Clubber is more like mike tyson with less skill while drago even without the steroids was a trained killer.
I never realized how much I needed a Clubber vs Drago movie. The reason the Rocky movies were so great was because the “villains” were equally compelling to Rocky, even if we never see their full side of things.
Yeah . He’s got precision and power. Clubber is kind of a bully fighter . He’s a great hammer but not a good nail. I could see dragon breaking his spirit and taking the victory .
I give Clubber greater odds of defeating Ivan Drago _after_ Rocky IV, than _before_ Rocky IV. After losing to Rocky, Drago was psychology and emotionally broken. Soon after that loss, Drago’s wife Ludmilla left him. Knowing, that Drago lost to Rocky, would boost Clubber’s confidence over the internally broken Drago.
i would like to see drago vs. Thunder lips, that would be interesting he was said to be 7 feet tall in the movie and 390 lb. and moves fast, and pur muscle
yo yo YO! I knew when I saw your Clubber V Creed video, I KNEW you could pull this off too. I am HYPED to watch this. PLEASE - KEEP - using Ai art. Having imagery does definitely help to sell the idea and gives the mind something to latch onto a bit. Thats a good thing in my opinion. EDIT: I totally agree with the verdict, too!
I’d take Drago, Ivan matches Clubber’s strength but takes him in stamina. Clubber lost to Rocky by being tired and getting worn down as the match went on, Drago has a height advantage as well. The only advantage Lang would have is being a southpaw if he could chop Drago down around the ribs and midsection he may stand a chance.
On their rematch, Rocky knocked Clubber out on the third round (easily) and he wasn’t even in his prime. When he was in his prime, he fought Drago for 15 rounds which was a very close match and he got brain traumas after that fight. Drago demolishes Clubber and it’s not even close.
My money would be on Drago. Appollo was the only fighter to show any ringcraft in the first 5 movies, so it comes down to a war. Drago has long reach against minimal head movement / jabs from Clubber. Also Clubber gassed after pounding Rocky for 2 rounds, whereas Drago Sat Rocky down 10 plus (???) times before losing in the 15th … BUT Clubber Definately dominates the pre fight. What’s Russian for “Hey Woman”
Clubber literally doesn't throw anything but hooks, and relies on his brute strength to plow through opponents. The problem is that Drago is even stronger and has a significant reach advantage, plus actual boxing skills and graceful movement. This combination of attributes should be enough to overcome the inherent disadvantage of boxing a shorter opponent... and given that Clubber wilted under Rocky's punches within 3 rounds in their rematch, I expect Drago would finish him in 2. Fair points that Rocky was also shorter and less skilled, and that Clubber was the only opponent to KO Rocky. But we can't omit the fact that mental toughness and heart were the biggest components of Rocky's performance in the ring. He succumbed to Clubber at a time when his mind and heart were breaking, and he withstood Drago's punishment ONLY because of his motivation to avenge his best friend. All things being equal, Rocky in his "normal" state would typically defeat Clubber and lose to Drago. The Drago fight and first Clubber match were outliers. So yes, Drago wins this. The better question is: how would Drago have fared against Thunderlips in that "boxer vs wrestler" charity match?
Because Drago had zero head movement, I could see Lang maybe catching him in the first couple rounds. If it passes that, I would pick Drago. But it would probably look like Foreman vs Fraser. Unless they did Olympic level drug testing lol.
Drago would annihilate Clubber. Wouldn't even be close tbh. Lang beat a relaxed Rocky who let fame get to him, but got washed when Rocky got serious. Drago gave the best version of Rocky the series has seen brain damage.
@simonbeecroft5566 I didn't want to decide 🙂. They were both phenomenal, but Vitali seemed like a more natural fighter (and was only stopped by injury and a cut).
Drago was on the juice, combining that with his reach and height advantage and his ability to actually defend himself I am quite certain Drago is going to take this one, he also has the stamina advantage.
I don't know how long it will take it don't think we are quite there yet...but i fully believe that the way it's going that in the very near future AI will be able to give us a full movie quality creation of a fight like this.
Clubber had little ring IQ, just went all in from the opening bell. Drago went the distance with Rocky and was able to cut off the ring against Appollo. Plus Drago could match Clubber on hitting power, even though he might have slightly slower hands Reckon Drago was based on Foreman and Clubber on Frazier from a fighting style so you reckon it would be close to the way that played out
Thank you so much for putting out the energy and the effort to create this fabulous video and confrontation between Clubber Lang and Ivan Drago🥊 You are my new favorite channel on UA-cam 👊👍
Drago didn’t slip like Apollo and Drago was beat by a retired Rocky. Ivan beat a retired Apollo. Clubber beat a closer to prime Rocky once, Lang wins by taking the early rounds.
Problem with that is Drago is taller so he has a greater reach so he can easily keep Lang at bay. Drago's punching power is far above Rocky and Clubber's. So I can't see this going well for Clubber as he never fought anyone who was physically superior to him in every way.
This could go either way. If Lang can corner Drago and unload his devastating hook combo early in the fight he could definitely win. He'd have to quickly close the distance though which is no easy task with Drago's reach.
I really like martial arts movies and they were a big thing back in the 80s and early to mid 1990s though the genre never stopped completely. Can we please debate more fights between fictional martial artists (and boxing is a martial art so we have a good start here). Here are a few I thought of: 1.Chong Li from Bloodsport vs Tong Po from Kickboxer. 2.The main teen villain from Never Back Down vs Mike Barnes from Karate Kid 3 3. "Brakus" from Best of the Best 2 vs the giant that Van Damme had to fight in the 1995 film "the Quest" or "Brakus" vs the main villain in Boyka" Undisputed 4. "George" the Iceman Chambers from Undisputed or "Monroe Hutchins" from Undisputed vs various Rocky boxers. 5. IP man vs Jet Li's "Fearless" character. 6. Uri Boyka from Undisputed 2 vs "Isaah Bone" from Blood and Bone. 7. Tony Jaa's character Ung Bac (might have spelled wrong sorry) the "Thai Warrior" vs either Tong Po from Kickboxer or maybe "Paco" from Bloodsport
7:38. The ability to withstand Langs viscous punches? Drago isn't mentally tough. That's is true weakeness. Clubber was far stronger than Rocky so imagine Clubber hitting Drago with the same punch that cut Drago's eye? Drago would have hit the canvas and been mentally defeated from that point on. Physical traits aside, Mike Tyson said it best "Every fighter has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". Well, when Rocky cut Drago in that 2md round, that signified that Drago was mentally weak because Drago lost all his power the remainder of that fight. So if Clubber hurts Drago in the same way in the early rounds, that fight is OVER as Clubb would have had the POWER to put Drago away. Now, if Clubber doesn't finish early, he would lose because of his weak stamina.
Drago stand 15 rounds against the most trained and determend Rocky he will not go down so easy! Clubber is not good at dodging he will go down after some hit from the hardest hitter in the Rocky verse!
I actually would like to see a hypothetical match-up between Sam Fisher from Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell series and Rainbow Six Siege against Jason Bourne from the Jason Bourne franchise.
Disagree. One hard punch from Rocky in round two wobbled Drago and split his eye. Rocky withstood Drago's power, so would Lang. Lang by KO inside three rounds.
Rocky IV Rocky>Rocky III Rocky by a looooot. Clubber would lose and lose horribly. He would start out aggressive as he always does and Drago would take a few hits before his handlers tell him to go for the kill. Clubber is strong but he’s not that durable. Apollo took punches from a stronger and tougher Rocky for 15 rounds and at that point, while out of the ring for a while was still proven waaay tougher than Clubber. Clubber is not KO’ing someone that a much bigger and stronger Rocky than the one that took his punches and Clubber himself couldn’t KO until round 15 😂😂😂 Clubber gets eaten. The Rocky verse has a pecking order and Clubber is actually second to last just above Tommy Gunn. Prime Apollo beats him, we saw Rocky beat him and Drago would rag doll him.
100%. Lang was far stronger than Rocky and Rocky hit Drago with everything he had to cut him. That CUT mentally defeated Drago because he had never experienced that type of PAIN and made Drago weaker the rest of the fight. Now imagine had Clubber hit him with that same punch? Drago would have hit the canvas. Drago was never a mentally tough fighter. That was his true weakness and the video creator 100% missed that part. Now I will agree that if Drago covers up the early rounds to withstand Clubbers blows, Drago would out last Clubber but I dont see Drago taking on that style as his dominate PRIDE wouldn't allow it as he's always been bully himself.
@@teeboz6237 what evidence supports that he is that much stronger in Rocky 4 vs 3? And then how to you get that the Rocky that Apollo fought was somehow tougher than the one Lang fought? You could argue end of Rocky 3 he is at his most versatile and peak of his championship. His speed and evasiveness is certainly at an all time high. Clubber is the only fighter to beat Rocky by ko, and did it in 2 rounds. Peak power in the series. If Drago goes toe to toe with that, he could very well fall
You people are claiming that Drago was a mentally weak fighter??? If he didn't get knocked out, he would have won by Unanimous decision. Lang was gassing out after two rounds.
@molasorrosalom4846 Lane gassed out because he never managed his power. No fighter can throw 100% power punches a whole fight. Also, Drago was mentally weak because he couldn't handle being HURT. It made him more cautious the rest of that fight. That was a new experience for him when Rocky cut and hurt him. Clubber would have done more damage as he's far more powerful than Rocky. Don't forget how Clubber shugged off Rocky's attack that 1st fight in the 1st round like he was nothing and Rocky went ALL OUT.
Lang beat a smaller, weaker, emotionally distracted version of Rocky and lost to an even smaller faster and more skilled version of Rocky in the rematch. The Rocky 3 version of Rocky would have died against Drago. The Rocky 4 version of Rocky is the most seasoned, rugged, strongest, and displays the highest level of champion heart in the entire the series. This version of Rocky would have beaten Lang at any stage of their fight.
@ 😂well the entire series is scripted of course. The evolution of Rocky is why the antagonist always had to become larger than life. Rocky is and always will be the underdog story that we all watched and loved.
Clubber gassed out too quickly. He only stands a chance if he greatly increases his endurance. That plus the extra "chemical enhancement" that Drago got, and he could beat Drago.
Imo, Drago beats Clubber anyway because Drago is stronger, disciplined, and has a full gas tank to 12 rounds, Clubber throws Knockout Punches that are swing and miss but also takes away his breathing, therefore Clubber can be Knocked out by round 3 or 4
Oooh, I don't know! In a fair fight, I think Drago would easily dominate, but in no holds barred...I don't know how Drago would respond to getting dirt thrown in his eyes. I might have to say Chong Li!
To Clubber’s credit, he’s the only one to ever knockout Rocky.
A good point. But.. Rocky wasn't Rocky in that 1st match.
Yeah but Clubber beat an untrained Rocky, regardless if Rocky was not in the proper mindset. This alone does not hold any ground for comparison against Ivan Drago.
@@SKYMONKEY42 I actually DISAGREED with this video. I do not think Clubber would even have lasted as long as they said since he only made it to round 3 against Rocky.
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@@CarnivoreDanthen who was he, Rambo?
Drago : I must break you.
Clubber : Dead meat..
Clubber was talking about himself.
@Zurround - That's hilarious. 🤣
Clubber : Get out my face. I don't need no has been in my corner.
Drago : You will lose.
Dragon: if he dies he died
It'd be a great fight. I'd be pulling for Clubber actually
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Lethal weapon Martin Riggs vs roadhouse Dalton
Chong Li from Bloodsport Vs Tong Po from Kickboxer
Chong Li vs the Mongolian from the Quest.
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@@antcharn1986 The Qissi Brothers
@@antcharn1986 , I know. It is funny that they both played JCVD villain's.
Bolo from Enter the Dragon v Chong Li
drago's ability to change shorts in the middle of a fierce exchange in this video is pure sorcery haha
How about a focused Apollo Creed from Rocky 2 versus Ivan Drago?
Finally man, I dont know why it took so long to get a breakdown like this on YT. Ive always had Clubber early but Drago as it goes on.
Clubber was that dude, but he didnt have the power or stamina that Drago had. Drago takes the W here.
How about Lang vs Thunder Lips?
The Ultimate Male vs The Ultimate Meatball
Clubber on this one
Drago vs Thunderlips
Pauly vs Mickey?
Better yet, Adrian vs Little Marie? For those not well versed "Screw you creepo" girl.
@@CarnivoreDan - you win. I'd bet the farm on Little Marie.
Tommy Gunn v clubber anyone?😁👍
Sure. Why not?
I think they're about equally matched. So it would be down to who has more stamina.
Clubber would murder him
@@wes276 oh yes definitely. Clubber is waaaaaay to strong for tommy. Tommy is a thug and Clubber is like a gold chain wearing thug, straight outta prison with multiple griefs burdening his mind. Tommy would be chewed up and spat out.
that being said, it would probably start out crazy. I like to think this is the fight the referee had to break apart multiple times because it kept getting scrappy, dirty and full of grappling which yes I know is totally not part of boxing and is part of my point. the MMA fighters of the Rocky universe.
Yes
Remember Drago was on steriods
Trust me, roids are not magic. A person still has to train hard and he had great genetics. They just gave him them to make him EVEN STRONGER. This is not some "Batman and Robin" movie starring George Clooney where when Bane runs out of his roids he shrinks down to almost nothing. He would have just been not quite as strong. He still would have beaten everyone except for Rocky without the roids.
@@Zurround drago was probably on something to help his stamina too. if they don't help, why take them?
@@Zurround It has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but that caricature of Bane was almost as bad as the travesties in recent Marvel movies (Captainette Marvel, Thor - Cunts & Blunders, the SubMexican, etc.).
@@Zurround It's off the subject, but that was a complete caricature of Bane - almost as bad as the ones in recent movies (Captainette Marvel, CuntaThor, the SubMexican, etc.). It would be better if such movies didn't even exist.
John Matrix vs. John Rambo
Space ice already gave the verdict! 😅
I requested, he delivered
Drago NEVER Fought Anyone as strong and powerful as Clubber Lang. Lang would've had absolutely No Fear of him and getting hit by Drago would've just Enraged him further. Ivan was an Amateur Champion and didn't have the Boxing Experience that Clubber had. In the original story, Clubber Lang was in Prison and that is where he became a Boxing Champion for the first time. This was CUT from ROCKY 3, but it definitely would've helped to explain Clubber's ruthless style and attitude. Drago was an incredibly powerful man, but he was a sheltered and protected athlete. Clubber came from the gutters of Chicago and Prison, to KO the World Heavyweight Champion, Rocky Balboa in his Prime. Remember that Rocky is famous for having the Greatest Chin in the ROCKYUNIVERSE. Apollo in his Prime couldn't Knock him out and had 2 chances, and Drago with All of his Steroids couldn't Knock Rocky out either. When Clubber Lang STANDS UP to Ivan Drago, and Hits him Harder than Anyone he's ever fought before, and Cuts his face up and bruises his ribs... Ivan the Amateur Champion will immediately lose all of his Confidence and quickly be intimidated by Clubber when his Scientific Training Crumbles. Clubber Lang wins by TKO!
No Way Clubber beat a Rocky who had barley trained and who loosed his trainer Mickey i say he was about 40% of his normal self in that fight!
Drago went on 15 rounds with the most trained and most determened Rocky!
Clubber does not have Rockys chin and hes not very good at dodging Drago has superior hitting power and reach Drago wins small diff!
Wow, good analysis, but you gotta get out in the world more. Stop watching "Rocky" movies!! lol
I agree lang for the win
@jimmyj5035 the script writers made it very clear how dangerous Ivan Drago was. There is no way in hell that Clubber Lang would win, regardless, where he came from. He showed how little stamina he has, and he would not knock out Ivan Drago before getting knocked out himself. The only reason why Rocky didn’t get knocked out is because the script didn’t allow it. Clubber Lang didn’t give Rocky any kind of brain injury like Ivan Drago did As stated in Rocky
5, not to mention Creed 2 made it clear that Ivan Drago broke things in Rocky that he never fully recovered from. The difference is vast. You gotta look at all the details before you come to this conclusion.
In my opinion dragos battle iq range and the fact even without steroids he was strong when he was in the military. Clubber is more like mike tyson with less skill while drago even without the steroids was a trained killer.
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@@Who-Would-Win-Show Stewie Griffin vs Chucky. Do you take multiple recommendations from the same person?
I never realized how much I needed a Clubber vs Drago movie. The reason the Rocky movies were so great was because the “villains” were equally compelling to Rocky, even if we never see their full side of things.
John Rambo vs John Matrix. Winner fights John McClane. Battle of the 80s Johns!
Don't forget about Martin Riggs
Easy Rambo he has superior skills among special forces he was the best of the best Trautman!
John McLane vs Martin Riggs
A bit off topic , but maybe Martin as being a little more psychotic. I mean how many people can relocate a shoulder on demand?
@@CarnivoreDan I think Riggs has at least some level of masochism going on
If your asking for my prediction my answer is this: Pain.
Dragos durability/stamina smashes Lang.
Yeah . He’s got precision and power. Clubber is kind of a bully fighter . He’s a great hammer but not a good nail. I could see dragon breaking his spirit and taking the victory .
I remember saying that at the arcade as a kid
" I must break you "
I give Clubber greater odds of defeating Ivan Drago _after_ Rocky IV, than _before_ Rocky IV. After losing to Rocky, Drago was psychology and emotionally broken. Soon after that loss, Drago’s wife Ludmilla left him. Knowing, that Drago lost to Rocky, would boost Clubber’s confidence over the internally broken Drago.
Loving your work . How bout John Rambo vs John Matrix ?
I 2nd & 3rd this motion
Rambo easy if its in forest or jungle,if its in a town Rambo still take it but not as easy!
@@skaraturbo fist fight matrix all the way but in the jungle my moneys on Rambo ! But let's not try and influence the power's that be 😂
@@skaraturbo I dunno, Matrix can smell a person, remember he smelled the attack coming.
Matrix eats Green Berets for breakfast.
I would love to see Mike Tyson VS Clubber Lang
You should do Damian Anderson vs Viktor Drago
Agreed
i would like to see drago vs. Thunder lips, that would be interesting he was said to be 7 feet tall in the movie and 390 lb. and moves fast, and pur muscle
Woe, that was fast! Thanks!
yo yo YO! I knew when I saw your Clubber V Creed video, I KNEW you could pull this off too. I am HYPED to watch this.
PLEASE - KEEP - using Ai art. Having imagery does definitely help to sell the idea and gives the mind something to latch onto a bit. Thats a good thing in my opinion.
EDIT: I totally agree with the verdict, too!
Awesome! I'm glad you enjoy the art. It's actually pretty cool what AI can create for some of these ideas.
I’d take Drago, Ivan matches Clubber’s strength but takes him in stamina. Clubber lost to Rocky by being tired and getting worn down as the match went on, Drago has a height advantage as well. The only advantage Lang would have is being a southpaw if he could chop Drago down around the ribs and midsection he may stand a chance.
Dalton from Roadhouse vs. Billy Jack
It would be an interesting fight, as neither would really wish to harm the other as both are somewhat pacifist
Now we need Clubber Langs Son challenging Adonis Creed in the 4th film and Ivan Drago's son helps Adonis train for that fight.
Damn your on to something! That would sell and I'd be looking forward to watching that one
Mason Dixon vs. Apollo Creed. Technical boxing at its finest.
Nice. How about Chong Li from bloodsport and the villain from the first kickboxer?
On their rematch, Rocky knocked Clubber out on the third round (easily) and he wasn’t even in his prime. When he was in his prime, he fought Drago for 15 rounds which was a very close match and he got brain traumas after that fight. Drago demolishes Clubber and it’s not even close.
Rocky was in his prime during the lang fight . He should have been retired by the drago era . Old and comfortable in life
I haven't seen it yet, but definitely Drago!
Drago hits 3 times harder, Lang would be floored.
That's with steroids
And Lang doesn't 🤔@@RafiqWashington-tx7id
@johnwalters4792 nope he was raw power bro. Everything about Drago was in a lab.
@johnwalters4792 not in the movie no
@@dtill5322 In the movie he clearly was taking steroids. Are you sure any of you watched it
My money would be on Drago. Appollo was the only fighter to show any ringcraft in the first 5 movies, so it comes down to a war. Drago has long reach against minimal head movement / jabs from Clubber. Also Clubber gassed after pounding Rocky for 2 rounds, whereas Drago Sat Rocky down 10 plus (???) times before losing in the 15th
… BUT Clubber Definately dominates the pre fight. What’s Russian for “Hey Woman”
Clubber literally doesn't throw anything but hooks, and relies on his brute strength to plow through opponents. The problem is that Drago is even stronger and has a significant reach advantage, plus actual boxing skills and graceful movement. This combination of attributes should be enough to overcome the inherent disadvantage of boxing a shorter opponent... and given that Clubber wilted under Rocky's punches within 3 rounds in their rematch, I expect Drago would finish him in 2. Fair points that Rocky was also shorter and less skilled, and that Clubber was the only opponent to KO Rocky. But we can't omit the fact that mental toughness and heart were the biggest components of Rocky's performance in the ring. He succumbed to Clubber at a time when his mind and heart were breaking, and he withstood Drago's punishment ONLY because of his motivation to avenge his best friend. All things being equal, Rocky in his "normal" state would typically defeat Clubber and lose to Drago. The Drago fight and first Clubber match were outliers. So yes, Drago wins this. The better question is: how would Drago have fared against Thunderlips in that "boxer vs wrestler" charity match?
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Clubber in his prime vs mickey( rocky's trainer) in his prime
Because Drago had zero head movement, I could see Lang maybe catching him in the first couple rounds. If it passes that, I would pick Drago. But it would probably look like Foreman vs Fraser. Unless they did Olympic level drug testing lol.
I would rank them as follows
No6 mason the line Dixon
No5 Tommy the machine gunn
No4 clubber Lang
No3 Apollo creed
No2 Ivan drago
No1 rocky Balboa.
Rocky basically had to become a super human just to withstand Dragos power. You gonna tell me there’s a debate over this????
Ivan dog walks Clubber whose chin couldn't last 6 rounds with Rocky.
I'd say Drago wins based on their performances against a focused Rocky. Drago was basically a cartoon Wladimir Klitschko.
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Drago would annihilate Clubber. Wouldn't even be close tbh. Lang beat a relaxed Rocky who let fame get to him, but got washed when Rocky got serious. Drago gave the best version of Rocky the series has seen brain damage.
Drago is likely even stronger than Clubber and will be impossible to intimidate. He’s also got much more stamina
This feels like a post-prison Mike Tyson vs. Klitschko match. If it lasts more than 2 rounds, I'm putting money on the big punching machine.
wlad or vitali ?
@simonbeecroft5566 I didn't want to decide 🙂. They were both phenomenal, but Vitali seemed like a more natural fighter (and was only stopped by injury and a cut).
Id be rooting for Clubber. This could not go past 4 to 6 rounds both hit to hard and dodge to little lol
Ivan Drago and it's not even close. Why not put Clubber Lang against someone he actually has a chance at beating like Damon?
Very interesting analysis, thanks!
I got an oddball matchup. Marion Cobretti (Cobra) vs Martin Riggs (Lethal Weapon)
Now this is fight I really want to see!
Drago was on the juice, combining that with his reach and height advantage and his ability to actually defend himself I am quite certain Drago is going to take this one, he also has the stamina advantage.
Chucky vs the Puppets from the Puppet Master.
I suggested this a few weeks ago.
@ cool.
Rocky in pre drago fight vs Tommy Gunn
I don't know how long it will take it don't think we are quite there yet...but i fully believe that the way it's going that in the very near future AI will be able to give us a full movie quality creation of a fight like this.
I figured Drago would edge out Clubber Lang.
Flip a coin, would probably need a trilogy to settle who is better
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Clubber burns out after a few rounds. Drago’s on Roids and has punches that cause brain damage and death. Drago wins easily
This matchup went exactly how I thought it would've. Clubber in the early rounds (Mike Tyson), Drago later (Vladimir Klitschko
Yo, I would've definitely watched a Clubber Lang~Drago movie.
Love Mr T but am going with Drago
Tough? Have to give it to Drago
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Lang!!!!!
Philo Beddoe (Clint Eastwood) from Every which way but loose vs Chaney (Charles Bronson) in Hard Times.
Clubber had little ring IQ, just went all in from the opening bell. Drago went the distance with Rocky and was able to cut off the ring against Appollo. Plus Drago could match Clubber on hitting power, even though he might have slightly slower hands
Reckon Drago was based on Foreman and Clubber on Frazier from a fighting style so you reckon it would be close to the way that played out
Thank you so much for putting out the energy and the effort to create this fabulous video and confrontation between Clubber Lang and Ivan Drago🥊
You are my new favorite channel on UA-cam 👊👍
Wow! Thanks a lot!
Drago didn’t slip like Apollo and Drago was beat by a retired Rocky. Ivan beat a retired Apollo. Clubber beat a closer to prime Rocky once, Lang wins by taking the early rounds.
Very valid points!!!🎯
Problem with that is Drago is taller so he has a greater reach so he can easily keep Lang at bay. Drago's punching power is far above Rocky and Clubber's. So I can't see this going well for Clubber as he never fought anyone who was physically superior to him in every way.
We need Human Jason from Friday the 13th part 3 4 vs Michael Myers Halloween 1978 or 2018
Drago would crush Clubber quicker than he did Apollo
This could go either way. If Lang can corner Drago and unload his devastating hook combo early in the fight he could definitely win. He'd have to quickly close the distance though which is no easy task with Drago's reach.
I really like martial arts movies and they were a big thing back in the 80s and early to mid 1990s though the genre never stopped completely. Can we please debate more fights between fictional martial artists (and boxing is a martial art so we have a good start here).
Here are a few I thought of:
1.Chong Li from Bloodsport vs Tong Po from Kickboxer.
2.The main teen villain from Never Back Down vs Mike Barnes from Karate Kid 3
3. "Brakus" from Best of the Best 2 vs the giant that Van Damme had to fight in the 1995 film "the Quest" or "Brakus" vs the main villain in Boyka" Undisputed
4. "George" the Iceman Chambers from Undisputed or "Monroe Hutchins" from Undisputed vs various Rocky boxers.
5. IP man vs Jet Li's "Fearless" character.
6. Uri Boyka from Undisputed 2 vs "Isaah Bone" from Blood and Bone.
7. Tony Jaa's character Ung Bac (might have spelled wrong sorry) the "Thai Warrior" vs either Tong Po from Kickboxer or maybe "Paco" from Bloodsport
The Punisher vs Predator
7:38. The ability to withstand Langs viscous punches? Drago isn't mentally tough. That's is true weakeness. Clubber was far stronger than Rocky so imagine Clubber hitting Drago with the same punch that cut Drago's eye? Drago would have hit the canvas and been mentally defeated from that point on. Physical traits aside, Mike Tyson said it best "Every fighter has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". Well, when Rocky cut Drago in that 2md round, that signified that Drago was mentally weak because Drago lost all his power the remainder of that fight. So if Clubber hurts Drago in the same way in the early rounds, that fight is OVER as Clubb would have had the POWER to put Drago away. Now, if Clubber doesn't finish early, he would lose because of his weak stamina.
Drago stand 15 rounds against the most trained and determend Rocky he will not go down so easy! Clubber is not good at dodging he will go down after some hit from the hardest hitter in the Rocky verse!
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Drago wins but it would be an excellent show
What about Apollo Creed in his prime (Rocky II Apollo Creed) versus Drago?
@@lukejenness8776 I made that same exact suggestion
Prime Apollo Creed Vs Lang
look at his previous video. he did this already
@@94462meant prime Apollo Creed Vs Drago
I actually would like to see a hypothetical match-up between Sam Fisher from Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell series and Rainbow Six Siege against Jason Bourne from the Jason Bourne franchise.
Disagree. One hard punch from Rocky in round two wobbled Drago and split his eye. Rocky withstood Drago's power, so would Lang. Lang by KO inside three rounds.
Rocky IV Rocky>Rocky III Rocky by a looooot. Clubber would lose and lose horribly. He would start out aggressive as he always does and Drago would take a few hits before his handlers tell him to go for the kill. Clubber is strong but he’s not that durable. Apollo took punches from a stronger and tougher Rocky for 15 rounds and at that point, while out of the ring for a while was still proven waaay tougher than Clubber. Clubber is not KO’ing someone that a much bigger and stronger Rocky than the one that took his punches and Clubber himself couldn’t KO until round 15 😂😂😂 Clubber gets eaten.
The Rocky verse has a pecking order and Clubber is actually second to last just above Tommy Gunn. Prime Apollo beats him, we saw Rocky beat him and Drago would rag doll him.
100%. Lang was far stronger than Rocky and Rocky hit Drago with everything he had to cut him. That CUT mentally defeated Drago because he had never experienced that type of PAIN and made Drago weaker the rest of the fight. Now imagine had Clubber hit him with that same punch? Drago would have hit the canvas. Drago was never a mentally tough fighter. That was his true weakness and the video creator 100% missed that part. Now I will agree that if Drago covers up the early rounds to withstand Clubbers blows, Drago would out last Clubber but I dont see Drago taking on that style as his dominate PRIDE wouldn't allow it as he's always been bully himself.
@@teeboz6237 what evidence supports that he is that much stronger in Rocky 4 vs 3? And then how to you get that the Rocky that Apollo fought was somehow tougher than the one Lang fought? You could argue end of Rocky 3 he is at his most versatile and peak of his championship. His speed and evasiveness is certainly at an all time high.
Clubber is the only fighter to beat Rocky by ko, and did it in 2 rounds. Peak power in the series. If Drago goes toe to toe with that, he could very well fall
You people are claiming that Drago was a mentally weak fighter??? If he didn't get knocked out, he would have won by Unanimous decision.
Lang was gassing out after two rounds.
@molasorrosalom4846 Lane gassed out because he never managed his power. No fighter can throw 100% power punches a whole fight. Also, Drago was mentally weak because he couldn't handle being HURT. It made him more cautious the rest of that fight. That was a new experience for him when Rocky cut and hurt him. Clubber would have done more damage as he's far more powerful than Rocky. Don't forget how Clubber shugged off Rocky's attack that 1st fight in the 1st round like he was nothing and Rocky went ALL OUT.
Souka on Drago's shorts is malevolent
Lang beat a smaller, weaker, emotionally distracted version of Rocky and lost to an even smaller faster and more skilled version of Rocky in the rematch. The Rocky 3 version of Rocky would have died against Drago. The Rocky 4 version of Rocky is the most seasoned, rugged, strongest, and displays the highest level of champion heart in the entire the series. This version of Rocky would have beaten Lang at any stage of their fight.
Only because that's what was in the script.
@ 😂well the entire series is scripted of course. The evolution of Rocky is why the antagonist always had to become larger than life. Rocky is and always will be the underdog story that we all watched and loved.
Among many reasons Ivan slams, Rocky's wife thought he didn't stand a chance against him yet believed he could beat Clubber
The predator v the punisher
Clubber gassed out too quickly. He only stands a chance if he greatly increases his endurance. That plus the extra "chemical enhancement" that Drago got, and he could beat Drago.
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Ivan Drago all the way 💪😎
Imo, Drago beats Clubber anyway because Drago is stronger, disciplined, and has a full gas tank to 12 rounds, Clubber throws Knockout Punches that are swing and miss but also takes away his breathing, therefore Clubber can be Knocked out by round 3 or 4
Pretty good, if limited, analysis. I agree, Drago would win.
According to recently added canon they actually did fight, and Drago defeated Clubber after the events of Rocky IV.
Where and when exactly was that mentioned?
Chong Li (Bloodsport) vs Ivan Drago (Rocky 4) No Holds Barred 🩸
Oooh, I don't know! In a fair fight, I think Drago would easily dominate, but in no holds barred...I don't know how Drago would respond to getting dirt thrown in his eyes. I might have to say Chong Li!
Ivan Drago vs Tommy Gunn Mason deline dexson
Drago - he has inhuman strength
Robert McCall (The Equalizer) vs John Wick!!