I also run the SI Setup and had the same unconsistant Results with the G&G Green. So I change it into a ML 60 Macaron. Now I have simular Results like your M4w Setup👍🏻
My setup Silent Industries MTW Alpha hop-up chamber + nozzle G&G COLD RESISTANT HOP UP RUBBER - GREEN 6.04 MTW 14.5″ Stainless Steel Hybrid Barrel 380mm but I'm not satisfied with the accuracy, maybe you could advise me how to improve it 2.8j 0.45bbs
Awesome video. I am trying to improve the performance of my MTW and bought the SI v2 nozzle and the SI alpha hopup. Haven't been getting good results with the G&G green and a prometheus 6.03 barrel, so kind of disappointed right now, but I'll wait a bit more until the bucking has had more shots through it. Do you think that the SI v2 nozzle is better than the Wolverine original nozzle?
With v2 SI nozzle I have 0.13 J loss with Alpha compared to M4W. Other than that I can't see any measurable difference between stock nozzle and SI v2 nozzle.
You can order it from McMaster - www.mcmaster.com/5109K31/ and cut the piece you need. And you have to modify the stock arm to glue the nub. It's the same nub that comes pre-installed in Maxx M4W/MXW/MGW. photos.app.goo.gl/9HY1Dyf29rvGNHLQ9 photos.app.goo.gl/HdRde2W1tG9tTpPi9
Was it a selfmade R-Hop patch? Or did you bought one from someone? thats absolutely crazy with the stock cnc unit. also did you tried the concave aluminium nub on the m4w? Should be better in comparison to a flat nub.
Yes, selfmade R-hop patches in both barrels. The one in the stock hopup is a 8 year old silicone IR-hop patch. The one in M4W is made from EPDM rubber hose. The hard concave aluminum nub doesn't work good at all with my R-hops. In all my R-hop setups the soft M-nub gives me the best results compared to all other options that are available on the market.
@@kruszy76 both hopups perform well if you pair them with proper barrel and bucking and everything (nub, mound and window) matches. If you already have M4W I doubt you’ll see any noticeable improvement spending 80+ EUR and going with SI Alpha.
I use a 6.08mm PDI (380mm), the SI camber with Snipetor 65 R hop patch, regular flathop bucking and the SI black nub. My 0.4 bbs overhop very quick and i have no consistet results. Any idea what to change??
The patch should not protrudes in the barrel with hop turned off. When you drop a bb in front of the barrel it should stop in the bucking lips, not in the patch. The nub is taller than needed. Try shorter or softer nub. Check if the tension ring doesn't provide too much bucking lips resistance for bb. You should be able to push the bb through the lips with very little force applied. Do you have consistent FPS with hopup turned on?
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher hey thanks for the tips, you're right I have to press very hard so that the bb comes through the feeding lips. Will have to try another ring. and do you have a recommendation for a nub? I will check the fps later.😇
@@isthisthetop_4150 when i tested Alpha with R-hop i had good results with its softer blue extended nub. Not so good as with M-nub but better than anything else i tried.
i can't say for sure because in my gun (1st gen billet lower + 1st gen forged upper) i have a ~0.15 J loss with SI v2 nozzle compared to SI v1 or stock 1st gen nozzle. Having in mind that SI v2 red-black nozzle have the same dimensions as the white delrin nozzle of the current MTW Inferno I would say that there's no difference in performance between them.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher After watching your videos, I feel motivated to strive for excellent performance! Does the 6mm orange number make a significant difference compared to the 4mm? Thank you!
@raph-fpv6044 good luck and don't give up :)! You only need 6 mm nub if you have 6+ mm patch or use 0.40+ g bbs with more than 1.7 j. Otherwise the 4 mm M-nub is more than enough.
@@MrMolotovv i did this 10+ years ago. The goal was to make the barrel window match the ProWin's window. Now you don't have to do that, especially if you'll use bbs lighter than 0.40g. The regular 4.5 mm window of the PDI is more than enough with properly installed ready to use R-hop patch (ElvishTac, Faceless or Snipetor) and 4 mm M-nub.
The stock hop-up works like a dream! Nice video!
Damn well the results speak for themselves the stock cnc with r-hop really shined..!!!! max wasnt too bad either but..... stock was simply too good
I also run the SI Setup and had the same unconsistant Results with the G&G Green. So I change it into a ML 60 Macaron. Now I have simular Results like your M4w Setup👍🏻
I have best results with Alpha when I use the Maple Leaf combo - Crazy Jet + Hot Shot bucking + Omega nub.
My setup
Silent Industries MTW Alpha hop-up chamber + nozzle
G&G COLD RESISTANT HOP UP RUBBER - GREEN
6.04 MTW 14.5″ Stainless Steel Hybrid Barrel 380mm
but I'm not satisfied with the accuracy, maybe you could advise me how to improve it
2.8j 0.45bbs
The easiest way is to try flathoped Madbull red with SI flat nub. The best way is R-hop.
Awesome video. I am trying to improve the performance of my MTW and bought the SI v2 nozzle and the SI alpha hopup. Haven't been getting good results with the G&G green and a prometheus 6.03 barrel, so kind of disappointed right now, but I'll wait a bit more until the bucking has had more shots through it. Do you think that the SI v2 nozzle is better than the Wolverine original nozzle?
With v2 SI nozzle I have 0.13 J loss with Alpha compared to M4W. Other than that I can't see any measurable difference between stock nozzle and SI v2 nozzle.
Hi, great video! what does the stock hopup's M-nub look like and where can one get it?
You can order it from McMaster - www.mcmaster.com/5109K31/ and cut the piece you need.
And you have to modify the stock arm to glue the nub. It's the same nub that comes pre-installed in Maxx M4W/MXW/MGW.
photos.app.goo.gl/9HY1Dyf29rvGNHLQ9
photos.app.goo.gl/HdRde2W1tG9tTpPi9
The stock setup did well, especially with that wind it was dealing with.
Yes. It works really well with r-hoped PDI 6.08.
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Was it a selfmade R-Hop patch? Or did you bought one from someone? thats absolutely crazy with the stock cnc unit. also did you tried the concave aluminium nub on the m4w? Should be better in comparison to a flat nub.
Yes, selfmade R-hop patches in both barrels. The one in the stock hopup is a 8 year old silicone IR-hop patch. The one in M4W is made from EPDM rubber hose.
The hard concave aluminum nub doesn't work good at all with my R-hops. In all my R-hop setups the soft M-nub gives me the best results compared to all other options that are available on the market.
@@NikolayDimitrovFishermate can you help with tips how can i make an r hop for myself?
Which one is better?
I use maxx in my mtw 14.5 I was looking at si hopup , which one is better in your opinion for a longer barrel 407 mm?
@@kruszy76 both hopups perform well if you pair them with proper barrel and bucking and everything (nub, mound and window) matches. If you already have M4W I doubt you’ll see any noticeable improvement spending 80+ EUR and going with SI Alpha.
Great Video . What is the app you are using for range finder ?
It's a phone camera behind a laser range finder.
U using the maxx orange sqare nub ?? Nice results 👍💪
Yes, the M-nub the camera comes with by default.
Great video!! It is the stock plastic hop up unit or the Phoenix hop up unit that using ? Because you whrite stock cnc hop up. Thank
The 2nd gen Forged comes with a CNC aluminum version of the plastic hopup.
Ok thank
Do you think we can use a r-hop with 0.28 g. I can't do it, I have far too many Hopup at zero. thanks
@@stalinelie1088 yes, i use mine with 0.28-0.30 @ 1.1 J when i play CQB.
Does r hop work with .25s or is that too light? @@NikolayDimitrovFisher
Is it the 6.08 barrel or the r-hop.. That’s amazing.. 😮
Definitely the R-hop. 6.08 helps but it's not significantly better than 6.05.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher Ok. Thanks! Like this testing vids btw!
@@HuibvanderHart Thank you, much appreciated!
I use a 6.08mm PDI (380mm), the SI camber with Snipetor 65 R hop patch, regular flathop bucking and the SI black nub. My 0.4 bbs overhop very quick and i have no consistet results. Any idea what to change??
The patch should not protrudes in the barrel with hop turned off. When you drop a bb in front of the barrel it should stop in the bucking lips, not in the patch. The nub is taller than needed. Try shorter or softer nub. Check if the tension ring doesn't provide too much bucking lips resistance for bb. You should be able to push the bb through the lips with very little force applied. Do you have consistent FPS with hopup turned on?
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher hey thanks for the tips, you're right I have to press very hard so that the bb comes through the feeding lips. Will have to try another ring. and do you have a recommendation for a nub? I will check the fps later.😇
@@isthisthetop_4150 when i tested Alpha with R-hop i had good results with its softer blue extended nub. Not so good as with M-nub but better than anything else i tried.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher okay so the best Option is the Airtech M-nub? Then i will try this one.
@@isthisthetop_4150 Airtech M-nub is with trolley for Maxx ME Pro/Sport. You can use the nub only with modified SI Alpha trolley.
пробвахте ли бялата дюза mtw в M4W в сравнение с дюзата SI, много впечатлен от стандартния модул за хоп
Yes. I tried it. It's just as good as the SI red-black v2. They both are with the same length.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher ok, video showed how effective each unit was saved me some money, just how effective the stock unit is, great testing.
Неплохо летит. Это Maple Leaf или Р-хоп стоит?
R-hop in M4W.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher а р-хоп сами делали или кто-то вам на заказ?
@@NeboUser it's custom made by me from EPDM rubber hose.
what r-hop is this? elvishtac?
No. Custom made by me.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher So maybe some tutorial how u made it in the future? :) Are u running MTW mags or some other?
MTW mags.
Great video, which of the 3 setups did you prefer?
M4W with 6 mm M-nub, R-hoped PDI 6.08 with 6 mm rectangular hopup window, Madbull 'red' flathoped bucking.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher Have you tried the aluminium concave 7 mm nub of the M4W with your R-hop PDI barrels? And what do you think it?
@@RedNeckActual yes, i tried it but with no success - lots o flyers, bad accuracy. The soft nub is much more effective.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher from the video it seems your first set up is more accurate no? @minute 1:20
@@mauricechoo8884 Maybe... I wouldn't say there is any noticeable difference between those two setups, they both shoots great :)
Hello, does the SI MTW v2 red+black nozzle really make a significant difference or not that much?
i can't say for sure because in my gun (1st gen billet lower + 1st gen forged upper) i have a ~0.15 J loss with SI v2 nozzle compared to SI v1 or stock 1st gen nozzle. Having in mind that SI v2 red-black nozzle have the same dimensions as the white delrin nozzle of the current MTW Inferno I would say that there's no difference in performance between them.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher After watching your videos, I feel motivated to strive for excellent performance! Does the 6mm orange number make a significant difference compared to the 4mm? Thank you!
@raph-fpv6044 good luck and don't give up :)!
You only need 6 mm nub if you have 6+ mm patch or use 0.40+ g bbs with more than 1.7 j. Otherwise the 4 mm M-nub is more than enough.
What the program?
What program?
How did you enlarge the hop up window for the 6mm patch I may ask?
With file, carefully.
@NikolayDimitrovFisher
Haaa ok and where did you filed it of the left or the right of if you look at the window when it's left in front of you?
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher or evenly on both sides?
@@MrMolotovv i did this 10+ years ago. The goal was to make the barrel window match the ProWin's window. Now you don't have to do that, especially if you'll use bbs lighter than 0.40g. The regular 4.5 mm window of the PDI is more than enough with properly installed ready to use R-hop patch (ElvishTac, Faceless or Snipetor) and 4 mm M-nub.
@@NikolayDimitrovFisher ok thx