I took an environmental science course, many decades ago. The one main point of the textbook was that the planet could not possibly support the growing global population, and that the only chance for the human race to survive was global population decline. I never thought I'd live to see it. Thanks Helen Reddy.
Taxing and inflation killed all the enthusiasm in young people. Greece like many others european countries are taxing its people like is no tomorow. Also the unbound imigration leads to scarcity of jobs and lower wages. And the properties prices are rising and rising because many foreigners want a piece of paradise.
Tax breaks and then paid government incentives. This combination still just creates huge government dependency. Why not just start eliminating taxes and regulations? Oh.... right.... because then they will no longer be dependapotamuses.
Encourage the Greeks who left Greece decades ago to back and retire in Greece. Better weather, cheaper than the countries that they immigrated to. Ive read of Portuguese who are returning to Portugal from Canada to spend their retirement. Sell the800k house in Toronto and live like a king in Portugal..ok, except Lisbon😅. Too expensive now.
We need productive members of society not old ones ,we are filled with old people already in southern Europe. We don’t need a bunch of retirees that want a countries with lower purchasing powers, most old people don’t spend a lot of money and are frugal that is the same has trying to grow the economy by increasing the immigrant population. We already sold albufeira to the retired Brits decades ago and now selling Lisbon to Americans and maybe a few Canadians 😂 If you say the kids of those retirees than we are talking but will never happen, our youth in Portugal is going to Switzerland and Benelux There’s 180 old people per 100 young people in Portugal. We need a diversified economy like Germany and France and not tourists,digital nomads and rich retirees based economy. Tourism creates low paying jobs and high demand for housing in a market with low new development since the gfc, expats makes the few real estate developers to makes luxury houses to cater to them or increase the rent prices in the areas they congregate and gentrify,retirees same thing although they are already starting to complain about housing prices in Lisbon although they are in part to blame for overpaying for everything, when the tourism boom goes away and tax breaks continue to lower the rats will leave the boat and our government is to blame for chasing short term solutions.
I’m Saudi and I think my country is the only rich country that still kinda make babies (2.4 FR) and Saudi women have double rates of college and higher education than Greece The key thing really is just affordable housing, free education for ur kids (even uni), and maybe being more religious also plays a role
ppl won’t start families without a home, and in modern society ppl won't have babies if they think they won't be able to at least ensure their academic future (sending him to uni or something equivalent)
2.39 was 2022, 2.148 was 2023. That's the thing, it drops so fast everywhere, that within one year your stats are off. I can bet you Saudi Arabia is already close or below 2.0 for 2024/25.
Some smart people will talk about income, the Birth rate decline is at same rate in Norway and USA the only community that has beaten birth rate benchmark is Muslims across the countries
why I push back on the Mediterranean diet, I always believed it was partially due to economics, as it is in europe. can't indulge if you cannot afford it.
i wish i could be living in there. here in Australia, too many people living in crises in costs and shortage of housing. here only the wealthy people can live. open wider immigration doors.
So sad, we need a new enlightenment to find a way for us to adjust to the post 1960s high tech modern world. Never before has so much changed in so short a time.
Most of the population of Portugal lives by the coast ,~82,5% of the population, in Spain is donut shaped desert, france is a diagonal line, in Italy the south is poorer and depopulating This a phenomenon that happens in most countries, people go where jobs exist especially now that we are not agriculture based economies but service economies. Still people exist there although neglected by the central government.
Economy in Greece is not good, better talking about investment and others similar with this business, debt probably can be done with a deal... American..
What are you talking about? things are simple, you have the old generation that is property owning and egoistic, they vote for political parties only to ensure their pension. As a result Greece cannot invest in the future, than being said there are absolutely zero oportunities for educated people. when I say zero, I mean zero, there are no factories there is no reserch and development and event in sectors like energy that might have potentialy absorbed educated engineers cannot do this. They dont because these sectors were connected to the goverment and the goverment provided such vacancies to old uneducated people that are affiliated to the political parties, that's also causing troubles for example a year ago two train colided and more than 50 people died. This is Greece 2.0, the puppet prime minister that was established by the American sphere of influcence thinks that everythings is okay, but I can ensure you that all young people are ashamed of our country- tottaly ashamed
imagine the people who died in WW2 coming back to find the govt flooded America with illegal immigrants and are a minority in their country. sad stuff.
Georgia is already at 2,06 (2022) and will probably continue to decline,it’s a global phenomenon in most countries, you can’t blame on the potential eu membership of Georgia.
All Over sector shall will be... from small thing to high technology... hopefully can get fully understanding...both side... because before this their are lots of issues... from sabotage from inside out to...a greedy men and women... American elected president... already show how serious we are about business deal ... hopefully end of our business deal both side can have big smile...you know.. Christmas..let it be a good one..
It's truly dramatic especially in the mountains, Macedonia and northern Greece. Same in south Italy.
A very beautiful minister!
Help her solve the baby shortage then.
All make up and looks old
Yeah we call them "flower pot politicians" here in Greece... enjoy
I took an environmental science course, many decades ago. The one main point of the textbook was that the planet could not possibly support the growing global population, and that the only chance for the human race to survive was global population decline. I never thought I'd live to see it. Thanks Helen Reddy.
How do you slow population growth without anyone even realising it? Empower women (even to the point of absurdity) but say it's about equality.
And get the Men into frocks and heels.. Inclusion that Citizen must bear the absurd engineering costs
Indeed the Woke would buy the Deceit!
Not slowed,reversed
Clown show
Chief of Diversity 🤤🤤
Weimar
Taxing and inflation killed all the enthusiasm in young people.
Greece like many others european countries are taxing its people like is no tomorow.
Also the unbound imigration leads to scarcity of jobs and lower wages.
And the properties prices are rising and rising because many foreigners want a piece of paradise.
In Russia there are 20,000 abandoned villages and another 30,000 villages with 10 or fewer inhabitants.
People left because there was a reason
They don’t seem to know what they are talking about.
Government only think short term and to their benefit.
We are in this together southern brothers.
Salaries cannot cover living costs. Things like rent, utility bills, are just too expensive. The decision not to have children is an expected outcome.
its all orchestrated to displace americans and kills us off while they import illegals
Like here in CYPRUS. Only jobs are tourism and government employment and construction which surges from boom to burst every few years,
1/3 of the population lives in Athens, wow.
And the other 1/3 in the other large cities. Greece has some unique problems which cannot be covered in a 5 minute fluff piece.
Tax breaks and then paid government incentives. This combination still just creates huge government dependency. Why not just start eliminating taxes and regulations? Oh.... right.... because then they will no longer be dependapotamuses.
Encourage the Greeks who left Greece decades ago to back and retire in Greece. Better weather, cheaper than the countries that they immigrated to. Ive read of Portuguese who are returning to Portugal from Canada to spend their retirement. Sell the800k house in Toronto and live like a king in Portugal..ok, except Lisbon😅. Too expensive now.
They need young people not retired ones 😂.
We need productive members of society not old ones ,we are filled with old people already in southern Europe.
We don’t need a bunch of retirees that want a countries with lower purchasing powers, most old people don’t spend a lot of money and are frugal that is the same has trying to grow the economy by increasing the immigrant population.
We already sold albufeira to the retired Brits decades ago and now selling Lisbon to Americans and maybe a few Canadians 😂
If you say the kids of those retirees than we are talking but will never happen, our youth in Portugal is going to Switzerland and Benelux
There’s 180 old people per 100 young people in Portugal.
We need a diversified economy like Germany and France and not tourists,digital nomads and rich retirees based economy.
Tourism creates low paying jobs and high demand for housing in a market with low new development since the gfc, expats makes the few real estate developers to makes luxury houses to cater to them or increase the rent prices in the areas they congregate and gentrify,retirees same thing although they are already starting to complain about housing prices in Lisbon although they are in part to blame for overpaying for everything, when the tourism boom goes away and tax breaks continue to lower the rats will leave the boat and our government is to blame for chasing short term solutions.
I’m Saudi and I think my country is the only rich country that still kinda make babies (2.4 FR) and Saudi women have double rates of college and higher education than Greece
The key thing really is just affordable housing, free education for ur kids (even uni), and maybe being more religious also plays a role
ppl won’t start families without a home, and in modern society ppl won't have babies if they think they won't be able to at least ensure their academic future (sending him to uni or something equivalent)
You forgot Israel, which tops you out at 3 or so. Also, how rich do you think you'll be once net zero really bites?
Religion is v important. Muslims have more babies relative to other religions or irreligion
forgot to mention the oil money
2.39 was 2022, 2.148 was 2023. That's the thing, it drops so fast everywhere, that within one year your stats are off. I can bet you Saudi Arabia is already close or below 2.0 for 2024/25.
It's time for Greece to create incentives to revitalize and rejuvenate these communities like some towns in Italy.
The infrastructure is there and in place. It's called Starlink.
Some smart people will talk about income,
the Birth rate decline is at same rate in Norway and USA
the only community that has beaten birth rate benchmark is Muslims across the countries
Nope, Muslim and African birth rate trends are also declining
You cant live on love you need to work and there just isn't jobs or desirable jobs in some of these places
When own people go outside,it show economy is not good very hard time,it looks like they not or not get the deal proposal
Sold or become part of share holder business deal...lots opportunity Greece government not touch....
why I push back on the Mediterranean diet, I always believed it was partially due to economics, as it is in europe.
can't indulge if you cannot afford it.
i wish i could be living in there. here in Australia, too many people living in crises in costs and shortage of housing. here only the wealthy people can live. open wider immigration doors.
So sad, we need a new enlightenment to find a way for us to adjust to the post 1960s high tech modern world. Never before has so much changed in so short a time.
Portugal and Italy the same. Once you move inland from the Atlantic, Portugal has been depopulated.
Wrong
Most of the population of Portugal lives by the coast ,~82,5% of the population, in Spain is donut shaped desert, france is a diagonal line, in Italy the south is poorer and depopulating
This a phenomenon that happens in most countries, people go where jobs exist especially now that we are not agriculture based economies but service economies.
Still people exist there although neglected by the central government.
Economy in Greece is not good, better talking about investment and others similar with this business, debt probably can be done with a deal... American..
What are you talking about? things are simple, you have the old generation that is property owning and egoistic, they vote for political parties only to ensure their pension. As a result Greece cannot invest in the future, than being said there are absolutely zero oportunities for educated people. when I say zero, I mean zero, there are no factories there is no reserch and development and event in sectors like energy that might have potentialy absorbed educated engineers cannot do this. They dont because these sectors were connected to the goverment and the goverment provided such vacancies to old uneducated people that are affiliated to the political parties, that's also causing troubles for example a year ago two train colided and more than 50 people died.
This is Greece 2.0, the puppet prime minister that was established by the American sphere of influcence thinks that everythings is okay, but I can ensure you that all young people are ashamed of our country- tottaly ashamed
Well said, all true, no BS. 👏🏼
aftereffects of WW2
imagine the people who died in WW2 coming back to find the govt flooded America with illegal immigrants and are a minority in their country. sad stuff.
Greece debt can be reduce,it is not too much after all....
Who thought socialism - social welfare state, that is - wouldn’t work? Any wonder people left in droves?
How about others place
Yeah already give my words, probably already in good time to do business deal...this British already being kick out...
Europe's problems don't matter, what really matters is that Zelensky is kept well fed 👏
Once Georgia joins the EU, this population decline will also occur there, too.
Georgia is already 3 mil people. Nothing to decline there.
Georgia is already at 2,06 (2022) and will probably continue to decline,it’s a global phenomenon in most countries, you can’t blame on the potential eu membership of Georgia.
then terrible prospect of immigration. Why not invite the Greek diaspora back?
Sofia, I like you ❤❤❤.
Great Greece are awful
Invite immigrants problem solved 😂😂
wrong
All Over sector shall will be... from small thing to high technology... hopefully can get fully understanding...both side... because before this their are lots of issues... from sabotage from inside out to...a greedy men and women... American elected president... already show how serious we are about business deal ... hopefully end of our business deal both side can have big smile...you know.. Christmas..let it be a good one..