Yeah, for hayes you don’t need maitake, but for Beetrice if you don’t have maitake, it’s kinda useless. Plus, I think Hayes having literally infinite range is very good because then you can place him out of the way and he will still attack and you have more room
Exactly what I’m thinking about the range he will keep attacking the enemy he’s locked on to cause the inf range so it either dies or it makes it to base
Oh come on right now hayes might have inf range but beetrice deals more damage in a small range Also you should wait for both bee and hayes get all their summons for it to be fair Also ppl ar saying that you need to waste a lot of slots for beetrice but cmon right now if you really wanna beat a map you really need at least two supports(spectre and balloon pal) then there is meitake left If we take a look at that too meitake is not a tower just to help beetrice, most people use meitake without beetrice too since she is a really good early game also late game tower thanks to her ability to remove stuns. What I tried to say is: -The supports people mention that beetrice needs them are being used in almost every game cuz you cant do much without them even towers like scientist and branch needs those supports too -Meitake is not a tower that is only being used for healing, instead she is really useful on most maps thanks to her ability remove stuns, poison enemies and invisible sight at level 1 -If you put beetrice back of the path (close to the base) she can stack up her bees and do very good dps and if you have more mana than u need (this happens in the maps like bleak barrens, toy takeover and chaos kingdom) you can keep using her ability to bypass the bee limit and do even more burst damage -If u combine the last thing I said with support (also meitake) she can do 15k damage in 3 - 5 seconds (tested) Im just not simping on beetrice or saying that hayes is bad but this just how you have to use the tower correctly its not easy like; put hayes down and let him damage anywhere on the map But whatever cuz WE ARE GETTING A HONEYCOMB HEIST REVAMP AND ALSO A BEETRICE REWORK/REDISGN!!! So y’all can cheer up! (If she gets better of course :| )
Hayes is hands down better in terms of design and attack. Design: I have never seen a cuter scarecrow. Attack: use him in build to survive and he will be useful.
You need to wait until the bees have already responded. You can’t just start it before they all spawn so that’s not really fair. The only good thing about Beatrice is her summoning more things than eyes which is what you’re supposed to use
You didn't even give bee a chance to summon all the bees. I'm not trying to prove anything but at least give both the towers a fair to. And also make sure you realize the prices too
Beetrice and hayes are both situational, hayes is good for long maps like calamity canyon or maps with multiple paths like honeycomb heist and beetrice is good for shorter maps like disaster hotel or raid maps like abandoned alley
If there was a somewhat Bee rework/buff I want it to be like this Level 1: 3HP, 5 dmg, 8 range, 3 bee limit Level 2: 13 dmg, 8HP, bee limit 5, range 12 Level 3: Range 18, bee limit 6, 16HP, 16 dmg (Damage scales to the bee’s current HP, this is only for lv. 3) (Reasoning: Lv. 3 is kinda OP) Level 4: Range 20, bee limit 8, 18HP, 19 dmg Level 5: Range 23, bee limit 12, 20HP, 18-30 damage (depending on how many bees are spawned) (Reasoning: needed a mechanic for bee lol ) Effect: slow down each hit from a bee for 3 seconds. The bee can only slow again when it goes back to Beetrice or attacks a new enemy (Reasoning: Bees sting lol) Ability: summons a random type of bee at the base spawn (Reasoning: makes sense since the Beetrice the Bee Queen is calling for her fellow bees to help her defeat enemies) Summoned Bee HP: Bees have 5 less HP than in Honeycomb Heist, honey bee has 1 hp Summoned Bee hp increases if spec is near, decreases if discount is near, honey bee has a decaying effect before dying with 29 more hp (30 in total) NEW MECHANIC: Bosses near Beetrice can damage her - Beetrice has 10K HP, bosses that are higher then 275K deal 500 dmg to Bee, stunning her for 1 second and killing a random bee. Bosses below 275k HP will be stunned (for 3) and damaged for 25. Beetrice takes 10 damage Beetrice HP increases when spec is near but also increases the damage boss deals, discount dog decreases the damage from bosses Cost: Lv.1 (Placement): 500 Discount Modifier: 300 Lv. 2 (Upgrade Cost): 1000 Discount: 481 Lv. 3 (Upgrade Cost): 2250 Discount: 1000 Lv. 4 (Upgrade Cost): 3800 Discount: 2100 Lv. 5 (Upgrade Cost) 6800 Discount: 4218 Lv. 5 (Ability Cost): 15K
Tbh y’all gotta give bee a chance like at least give her byte and spec I understand hay better but pls give her byte and spec and balloon pal and we can see how much damage with her (I’m not trying to be mean I just wanna see it please) not to prove a point but I just wanna seeee
ngl bee still suck in real game due you can only have 2 attacking like only bee or sci (or anything else) because bee needs spec , balloon pal , byte (im not hating bee i just don't like the fact wasting your slot for needing alot of supports tower )
finally somebody who ACTUALLY RANKS FAIR
beetrice needs a healer to actually do good damage hayes doesnt
why thank you, and yeah that is true
You are good
@DelusionalDetective
The crows has very good eyesight compared to every other tower
Yeah, for hayes you don’t need maitake, but for Beetrice if you don’t have maitake, it’s kinda useless. Plus, I think Hayes having literally infinite range is very good because then you can place him out of the way and he will still attack and you have more room
Exactly what I’m thinking about the range he will keep attacking the enemy he’s locked on to cause the inf range so it either dies or it makes it to base
Bro my brother has Hayes and we played but why did we lose????
Oh come on right now hayes might have inf range but beetrice deals more damage in a small range
Also you should wait for both bee and hayes get all their summons for it to be fair
Also ppl ar saying that you need to waste a lot of slots for beetrice but cmon right now if you really wanna beat a map you really need at least two supports(spectre and balloon pal) then there is meitake left If we take a look at that too meitake is not a tower just to help beetrice, most people use meitake without beetrice too since she is a really good early game also late game tower thanks to her ability to remove stuns.
What I tried to say is:
-The supports people mention that beetrice needs them are being used in almost every game cuz you cant do much without them even towers like scientist and branch needs those supports too
-Meitake is not a tower that is only being used for healing, instead she is really useful on most maps thanks to her ability remove stuns, poison enemies and invisible sight at level 1
-If you put beetrice back of the path (close to the base) she can stack up her bees and do very good dps and if you have more mana than u need (this happens in the maps like bleak barrens, toy takeover and chaos kingdom) you can keep using her ability to bypass the bee limit and do even more burst damage
-If u combine the last thing I said with support (also meitake) she can do 15k damage in 3 - 5 seconds (tested)
Im just not simping on beetrice or saying that hayes is bad but this just how you have to use the tower correctly its not easy like; put hayes down and let him damage anywhere on the map
But whatever cuz WE ARE GETTING A HONEYCOMB HEIST REVAMP AND ALSO A BEETRICE REWORK/REDISGN!!!
So y’all can cheer up!
(If she gets better of course :| )
Both of them do a good pair, but Beetrice alone is bad, she needs spectre and maitake, while for hayes only spec and maitake is optional
Hayes is hands down better in terms of design and attack. Design: I have never seen a cuter scarecrow. Attack: use him in build to survive and he will be useful.
3D she got buff and now summon caster bees and has a place mint of two
@@smoiboi1354 I thought its still 1
@@bamhurger. just a kid lying,dont worry
@@Pug-confuso ok
@@Pug-confusoshe did get buffed but she don't have placement limit of 2 and she still sucks all they did was increase her damage but she still sucks
You need to wait until the bees have already responded. You can’t just start it before they all spawn so that’s not really fair. The only good thing about Beatrice is her summoning more things than eyes which is what you’re supposed to use
hayes is a inf range summoner while beetrice is basically a slow level 3 fracture that gets more loading projectiles almost each upgrade
You didn't even give bee a chance to summon all the bees. I'm not trying to prove anything but at least give both the towers a fair to. And also make sure you realize the prices too
Beetrice and hayes are both situational, hayes is good for long maps like calamity canyon or maps with multiple paths like honeycomb heist and beetrice is good for shorter maps like disaster hotel or raid maps like abandoned alley
It's funny how by nerfing maitakes healing they nerfed beetrice.
Gotta love unstable balancing
Hay is better bc don't rlly need maitake but bee need maitake bc low hp
If there was a somewhat Bee rework/buff I want it to be like this
Level 1: 3HP, 5 dmg, 8 range, 3 bee limit
Level 2: 13 dmg, 8HP, bee limit 5, range 12
Level 3: Range 18, bee limit 6, 16HP, 16 dmg
(Damage scales to the bee’s current HP, this is only for lv. 3)
(Reasoning: Lv. 3 is kinda OP)
Level 4: Range 20, bee limit 8, 18HP, 19 dmg
Level 5: Range 23, bee limit 12, 20HP, 18-30 damage (depending on how many bees are spawned)
(Reasoning: needed a mechanic for bee lol )
Effect: slow down each hit from a bee for 3 seconds. The bee can only slow again when it goes back to Beetrice or attacks a new enemy
(Reasoning: Bees sting lol)
Ability: summons a random type of bee at the base spawn
(Reasoning: makes sense since the Beetrice the Bee Queen is calling for her fellow bees to help her defeat enemies)
Summoned Bee HP: Bees have 5 less HP than in Honeycomb Heist, honey bee has 1 hp
Summoned Bee hp increases if spec is near, decreases if discount is near, honey bee has a decaying effect before dying with 29 more hp (30 in total)
NEW MECHANIC: Bosses near Beetrice can damage her - Beetrice has 10K HP, bosses that are higher then 275K deal 500 dmg to Bee, stunning her for 1 second and killing a random bee. Bosses below 275k HP will be stunned (for 3) and damaged for 25. Beetrice takes 10 damage
Beetrice HP increases when spec is near but also increases the damage boss deals, discount dog decreases the damage from bosses
Cost:
Lv.1 (Placement): 500
Discount Modifier: 300
Lv. 2 (Upgrade Cost): 1000
Discount: 481
Lv. 3 (Upgrade Cost): 2250
Discount: 1000
Lv. 4 (Upgrade Cost): 3800
Discount: 2100
Lv. 5 (Upgrade Cost) 6800
Discount: 4218
Lv. 5 (Ability Cost): 15K
@@sivvim at least beetrice is buffed now, summons caster bee on the path instead of summoning all bee types near beetrice
@@dedless6384 ik, it’s just. Not that much lol
Tbh y’all gotta give bee a chance like at least give her byte and spec I understand hay better but pls give her byte and spec and balloon pal and we can see how much damage with her (I’m not trying to be mean I just wanna see it please) not to prove a point but I just wanna seeee
Then do the same with hayes you nugget
Mad cause bad
Well if you give beetrice support towers, that wouldn’t be fair to Hayes because he doesn’t get any support towers
@@Real_Pikpik_Carrothayes has 2 placement limit and infinite range. Hayes without support would do more damage than Beatrice with support
Hayes is better than Beetrice because of the infinite range
Beetrice deal more dmg but have range soo why here need get in kill
You should've waited for them to spawn in there summons so its equal.
woah beetrice level 3 has range 40! LOL
With sayy. The both or very cool dmg like I have haye
ngl bee still suck in real game due you can only have 2 attacking like only bee or sci (or anything else) because bee needs spec , balloon pal , byte (im not hating bee i just don't like the fact wasting your slot for needing alot of supports tower )
Somehow a bee lose to a thigh that doesnt move
Can you help me get oddport pls
Perhaps beatrice can invoke many peas but very weak encabuo to Hayes invoca pocos pero fuertes
beetrice better [joke pls dont attack me]
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Egg kill slime
Lol the pain you have to go through for the most disappointing tower ever
HAYES
CAN I PLS FIND YOU IN TOWER HEROS AND PLS HELP MEH GET THIS HARD GETTING BEE 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
The game devs still nerf towers to this day 😭
Is🐝 Me🐝 Hay The My Friend 🌾Hayes🌾 Yay
First thing let beetrice build up her army if ya dony she gonna lose/you
Hayes is my favorite character not a fan of beetrice
Lol you say chef I meant hayes
Bruh you didn’t even let bee regenrate plus you didn’t even cheer on bee but only hayes and also this is just your opinion
Hayes is still better though, also, what do you mean by regenerate?
Bee regenerate rlly slows give her some time
@@Game_Debate I let her generate the ability and I used it
typical beetrice simps, hayes is better and thats a fact
@@Game_Debate beetrice is trash
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thanks!
Heyes defeat the slime back there
bro u are bullyng beetrice
And haye too
Level 3 heyes winner
Haye max dj deal 58 dmg
I think that's OP
Lol you say chef I meant Hayes