The 2023 Honda Pilot Is 12-Inches of LCD Away From Greatness

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • For 2023 Honda has released their biggest, baddest Pilot ever. With more legroom, cargo room, headroom and off-road capability than ever before. What's not to love? The LCDs seem on the small side and the second row isn't as child seat friendly as some of the competition. However if you're looking for the roomiest 3rd row outside of a Honda Odyssey, this Pilot's for you.
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:28 Front End Design
    0:56 Size
    1:46 LX Trim
    2:16 Rear End Styling
    2:53 Powertrain
    4:07 Trailsport
    6:39 Front Seat Comfort
    7:13 Rear Seat Comfort
    8:41 Third Row
    10:12 Cargo
    12:19 Interior Walkaround
    16:49 Driving Impressions
    24:35 Pricing & Final Thoughts
    28:45 Closing
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  • @AAutoBuyersGuide
    @AAutoBuyersGuide  Рік тому +51

    Sorry guys, the cargo space graphic is wrong, should be 22.4 cu ft. Some of you have asked about the LX trim. It's new and will be on Honda's website sooner or later. Trust me, it's coming to the USA.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому

      All is forgiven. 😉

    • @barbz_zayne
      @barbz_zayne Рік тому

      An LX would be nice because it seems all the trims are too expensive. The Sport is alright but I would have to have at least an EX-L for that price

    • @dobbiesmith8314
      @dobbiesmith8314 Рік тому

      It's ok... easy mistake... I really enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work !

    • @torocars9227
      @torocars9227 Рік тому

      Why don’t you mention these drives 2x better than Kia Hyundai cousins suv?

  • @nicklyons4227
    @nicklyons4227 Рік тому +161

    As the owner of a 2000 Odyssey with over 200K miles, the naturally aspirated V6 is a big plus for me. We keep our cars long term, and I'm wary of turbos. Looks like a lovely road tripper.

    • @almassengale
      @almassengale Рік тому +21

      Honda naturally aspirated cylinder engines, at least in my experience, are bullet proof. It may not be the latest in technology but I think it'll be there working the long haul in a way that some of the more complex turbocharged engines won't be.

    • @tednugent1100
      @tednugent1100 Рік тому +21

      Exactly. Totally fine with a slightly smaller infotainment if the trade off is a NA Honda 6 that I'll never have to worry about.

    • @JustinOhm
      @JustinOhm Рік тому +6

      I’ve had a 2001, 2009 and 2018 Odyssey. They don’t make ‘‘em like they used to.

    • @robertrocheville7769
      @robertrocheville7769 Рік тому +3

      @@JustinOhm in ways that's a good thing.
      The new direct injection engines have been mostly flawless.

    • @JustinOhm
      @JustinOhm Рік тому +10

      @@robertrocheville7769In my 2018 Odyssey: Fuel injector recalls, Cat failing at 78,000 miles, capless fuel cap issues, 9 speed trans feels terrible, but yea, the engine seems solid.

  • @almassengale
    @almassengale Рік тому +62

    I like that Honda does not make you get captains chairs in upper trims. Really wish the removable middle seat was in all trims. Most of the time my family is best served by two in the middle and a pass through but there are those times when you really need to get in an extra passenger and/or maximize cargo space.

  • @j.3854
    @j.3854 Рік тому +17

    Alex, I have to give you some feedback on your videos. You know how a lot of the premium youtube car channels seem to think its boring to go over different trims and specs? They seem to think all we want to do is see them womp on the car/truck. Well I *really* appreciate how thorough your videos are. The details do matter and you do an excellent job at presenting those in an entertaining manner. Keep up the great work!

  • @almassengale
    @almassengale Рік тому +81

    To be honest I think there are at least a dozen things that are more important than screen size. For instance, in a family car, cargo space, passenger space, seat comfort, gas mileage, price, running costs, safety ratings, safety features, driving experience, noise levels, easy of third row access, reliability etc all would be a more important part of a choice for me than screen size. It would have to be quite the tie for that to be an important factor. I have cars with screen sizes ranging from 4 to 7 to 12.3 inches and when driving rarely do I care. Definitely prefer the larger size but it really isn't that important to me compared to all those other things.

    • @alvinsimba734
      @alvinsimba734 Рік тому +18

      Screen size on the infotainment should be the least important aspect of the vehicle.

    • @ChopperChad
      @ChopperChad Рік тому +4

      It’s super important to me, and suspect many others as well.

    • @joshuamoore2820
      @joshuamoore2820 Рік тому +6

      The screen looks much larger in person, and that’s coming from someone who had a Tesla with a giant screen.

    • @meh-87
      @meh-87 Рік тому +3

      As long as I can see the navigation and it has hardware volume and track controls for audio I don't care at all about the screen size.

    • @rcastillo3629
      @rcastillo3629 Рік тому +1

      I agree. Screen size is very low on my list. Seat comfort and overall interior space is king. I don't drive and stare at my screen not even when changing radio stations. That's what steering wheel controls are for.

  • @ThirdBrainLives
    @ThirdBrainLives Рік тому +8

    I'm about 12 inches away from greatness too.

  • @iSina93
    @iSina93 Рік тому +84

    With many car buyers base their decision on aesthetics, it still puzzles me why car makers won’t shell out the small extra cost for LED lights

    • @alvinsimba734
      @alvinsimba734 Рік тому +13

      First world problems

    • @edhcb9359
      @edhcb9359 Рік тому +1

      So they can charge extra for a feature that most people want. Duh!

    • @jesustsa1
      @jesustsa1 Рік тому +4

      Just cost cutting from Honda. LED turn signals must be expensive enough since they have to flash constantly (if people even use them 😂). VW tends to include these on all their cars, including the base Jetta. Honda is just cheap and always has been.

    • @lkae4
      @lkae4 Рік тому +6

      I don't see my LED turn signals when I drive. Do you?

    • @alanwilkening5632
      @alanwilkening5632 Рік тому +5

      I expect it has to do with supply chains. When you make a few hundred HyperCars, you can trim them out with anything. But if you are Honda or Toyota and have retooled your factories to delivers millions of vehicles, then you had better have massively capable LED manufacturers lined up and under contract. Not so easy to grab that big a slice of the LED pie.

  • @eduardotoledano
    @eduardotoledano Рік тому +5

    Hey @honda big fan of panoramic sunroof here. Pro tip: it’s ALL about the light in the cabin. I don’t care about opening it. Make it a one large fixed glass and call the day. Cheaper and thinner solution. You’re welcome!

  • @Thesuperblack22
    @Thesuperblack22 Рік тому +43

    Great video as always, Alex. One comment/suggestion/feedback: when showing the exterior and interior dimensions, could we also see what their respective luxury counterpart has? Pilot/MDX, Pathfinder/QX60, etc...people might cross shop those as well so seeing them added on that list would be nice!

    • @drivescene6747
      @drivescene6747 Рік тому

      The MDX is no longer related to the Pilot.

    • @Thesuperblack22
      @Thesuperblack22 Рік тому +5

      @@drivescene6747 It still falls under the Honda portfolio though...people will be cross shopping the two.

    • @FirstHillSeattle
      @FirstHillSeattle Рік тому +1

      @@Thesuperblack22 Absolutely correct. We have an Acura RDX but during the pandemic, we acquired two dogs. We love them, but now our vehicle is a bit small when we take everyone, and we are finding of course that the dogs are messy. First and foremost we want to go up in size, and will consider the MDX, however given our messy dogs I've become very interested in this new Pilot. Especially learning that it has the same SH-AWD system. So, I am someone who is actively cross shopping both.

    • @alexmassengale433
      @alexmassengale433 Рік тому

      @@drivescene6747 They are on the same platform though the MDX has a different front suspension.

  • @persaud101
    @persaud101 5 місяців тому +1

    2024 Honda Pilot owner here... I thought the same about screen coming from a vehicle with a 12 inch screen...
    After 20 minutes of driving... The Honda Pilot screen is the perfect size for google maps navigation and apple car play ( I use my screen for navigation and Apple car play primarily) !! My google maps and navigation on my 12 in screen was way too wide and I had to make it smaller and even then most my apps had to bee adjusted down to smaller size because on a 12 wide display is not really practical... I had to add 2 other bs data apps on the 12 inch display just to cover the space on the 12 inch screen that was not needed or important... Honda Pilot wins in all categories. Driving dynamics, quality, reliability, features, natural v6 (no bs turbos with a weak inline 4 cylinder Toyota), price, honest dealers vs Toyota trying rip their customers off
    Honda wins!! I love 2024 aggressive boxy look with ultra strength steel they added... They built this one like a tank... Literally...

  • @BuRNingFLaN
    @BuRNingFLaN Рік тому +18

    Love the new 23 Pilot Trailsport-- just test drove the EX-L at local dealership at it drives great with a nice exhaust note! Fingers-crossed that Honda will build enough trailsports--- so there will be more inventory available!

    • @klbacker
      @klbacker Рік тому +1

      I’m really interested in it too. How did it drive?

  • @nelsonsantiago2514
    @nelsonsantiago2514 Рік тому +3

    Alex, great video as always. I do wonder about the Bose sound system in the Touring/Elite vs the alternative in the EX-L. Is the Bose really worth going to a Touring. I know there are other items, like the pano, roof racks in the top two trims. Just asking about the sound. Thank you.

  • @blackwhirlwind1245
    @blackwhirlwind1245 Рік тому +7

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this Pilot needs Accord’s 12 inch screen, besides that, it also needs a hybrid option, also, get rid of that fake exhaust tips and I will definitely buy one.

    • @adamnagel7436
      @adamnagel7436 Рік тому

      People complain about a screen in a car that really isnt needed. Give me a regular radio with bluetooth and integrated adjustable phone mount and buttons for climate control etc.
      People are looking at their phones much more than these screens. They are a waste of money imo. I own vehicles with both and it is the last thing I would miss or consider when buying a vehicle.

  • @rusticroads
    @rusticroads Рік тому +4

    Great video as always! Did I miss information about the safety features, specifically Blind-Spot detection/warning, Cross-Traffic Alert, and parking sensors? If not, could you add them to your list of things to check on in the full review? These vehicles spend a lot of time on streets and in parking lots, and it would be good to know how they fare in the urban jungle. Thanks!

    • @jaytibby
      @jaytibby Рік тому +2

      The pilot has the standard Honda sensing features like the Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) · Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS) · Forward Collision Warning (FCW) · Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS). Road Departure Mitigation (RDM). includes a cross traffic monitor , which uses sensors on the rear of the vehicle to help alert you to approaching vehicles detected when you’re in Reverse.

  • @zfold4702
    @zfold4702 Рік тому

    Very honest and detailed review. You covered lot of practical pros cons that I didn't find in other reviewers videos. Thank you.

  • @kirkkempen6205
    @kirkkempen6205 Рік тому +2

    Another great video Alex! According to Honda website, the maximum cargo volume is 87 cubic feet per SAE J1100 measurement standards. The 21.8 number behind the 3rd row includes the under floor storage. (18.6 cubic feet above the floor.)

  • @markderoller7645
    @markderoller7645 Рік тому +8

    Looks a lot nicer than the previous gen.

  • @markrozenberg7959
    @markrozenberg7959 Рік тому +9

    The side styling is reminiscent of the original Passport from the ‘90s (built by Isuzu).

  • @marc8vino
    @marc8vino Рік тому +8

    I thought I might have to go with a mini van for cargo and MPG (sienna). Now with this and the Grand Highlander I will get an SUV. I hope to see a side by side comparison for the Grand Highalnder Max Hybrid and this one or sport version. One of these will need to be my next car. Unless the 4runner gets a great upgrade MPG...I'll sacrifice cargo just to have another 4runner. I have an old 4runner and Pilot right now but they both have over 260K miles. It's about time for something new.

  • @alonzalbrown1883
    @alonzalbrown1883 Рік тому +6

    This is a great looking crossover inside and out! Love how much interior space this has.

  • @mark_u
    @mark_u Рік тому +4

    Honda is really the master of smart packaging. Nicely done!
    IIRC, Toyota has placed the wireless charging mat in the parcel shelf in the updated Highlander :)

  • @mitchelllillie183
    @mitchelllillie183 10 місяців тому +1

    Very high quality review! Greatly appreciate the information and attention to detail!

  • @RWerksman
    @RWerksman Рік тому +4

    Alex - in your time with the new Pilot, did you notice how quickly the vehicle shifted into drive after pressing the button? The outgoing model had a considerable, annoying delay when doing so. Also, were you able to engage the ADAS system and did it function well? This was a weakness of the outgoing model as well - the torque limit meant that it could only lane center on the most gentle of bends.

  • @robertgretter9452
    @robertgretter9452 Рік тому +6

    I love my Honda Element and wish they were still in the lineup. Like Doctor Who's tardis, they are some how bigger on the inside than on the outside. And, like the S2000 I wish I had never sold, it's actually appreciating in value.

  • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
    @ragweedmakesmesneeze Рік тому +8

    "Hopefully I'll get to measure that soon." I fully appreciate that Alex, with his "roller bag score" does a more thorough job describing cargo utility spaces in his reviews than most anyone else out there, but it's time to also start bringing a tape measure to your shoots. Even a small "key-chain" sized one would do the trick. Because manufacturer supplied cu. ft. figures are confusing at best, and always deceptive. I'll never forget, for example that the Camry Hybrid trunk also gets a 5 on the roller bag score.

    • @MJ-fj9yv
      @MJ-fj9yv Рік тому +1

      He could’ve gone to the local HD or Lowe’s , not the point. He does full review which involves more than just measuring one specific area. He was setting up the audience for HIS full review later on. Trust me, it has enough room for ALL your allergy meds and other boomer needs, 😂.

  • @kadie1414
    @kadie1414 Рік тому +1

    What sucks if you get the removable seat is there are no remaining arm rests for the captain chairs left behind. For this reason, I’ll not be able to have 8 passengers seating or the sport model as I would have to get the EX-L model optioned with captains chairs that will then include arm rests

  • @simontong2954
    @simontong2954 Рік тому +1

    Most of the competitors come with 12" infotainment system, 8 ways passenger seat adjustment for this price point, the center seat belts are also clumsy too. Hope the VCM may last longer with no issue at all.

  • @jamesholloway2284
    @jamesholloway2284 Рік тому

    Great job as always! Thanks Alex.☺☺

  • @nikkia5399
    @nikkia5399 Рік тому +5

    The seatbelt straps in the back of the vehicle unlatch at the base of the seatbelt and retracts into the ceiling where you can tuck the C hook into the ceiling port if you have no use for the center seatbelt instead of pulling it over out of the way. I think you use the seatbelt metal insert to release the belt. Awesome video- thank you!!

    • @pinkisforpimps
      @pinkisforpimps Рік тому

      Important point 👍

    • @ackiwiyou
      @ackiwiyou Рік тому

      I was eliminating the vehicle just for the seat belts being in the way...they'd be so annoying on a long drive. But ok for carpooling

  • @scottw9771
    @scottw9771 Рік тому +8

    Seems like the new Pathfinder in Platinum trim would be a good comparison based on size and features. The Nissan has more features like power adjustable steering wheel, 4 way lumber and more passenger seat adjustments as well, but it does not have the removable center seat. I've tried the Highlander and it felt more cramped than the Nissan or Honda and I could not get comfortable in the seats, they felt one size too small. I am 6 feet tall and weigh 190 so fairly average was very surprised how uncomfortable I found the Toyota. Great info as always, thanks Alex!

    • @WiseTreee
      @WiseTreee Рік тому +2

      MDX tech…. Is the only answer.

    • @artieartya
      @artieartya Рік тому

      Stay away from Nissan. Nice they got rid of cvt but nasty ZF German trans in there.

    • @D0NTsmokeCRACK
      @D0NTsmokeCRACK Рік тому +4

      Toyotas are always cramped

  • @gregoryjefferson6311
    @gregoryjefferson6311 Рік тому

    Beautiful background/Landscape in the last shot .

  • @RJ_Taylor
    @RJ_Taylor Рік тому

    Alex pulled the skid plate to show us? He really does love us!

  • @joselasseigne5136
    @joselasseigne5136 Рік тому

    Can you comment on the driving dynamics between the trailsport & elite ? I like a firm suspension but don't like a lot of body roll.

  • @GBLecci
    @GBLecci Рік тому +3

    The exactly only thing I don't like in this version is the trapezoidal last window, which I also don't like on Durango, it's small, seems like they got it from another car and fit it after the car was ready, although apart from that, the car is really nice. I really like the front and the name on the back over the black stripe. In black color, the window doesn't bother me that much.

  • @panzer_TZ
    @panzer_TZ Рік тому +14

    I suspect, like the Highlander and Pathfinder, that Honda will update the Pilot to have an 8-way power passenger seat after a model year or two. Toyota in particular, alongside propagating their new infotainment, have brought 8-way power passenger seats across the board to the Limited trims. The 12" Infotainment screen from the Accord is also an easy upgrade for the mid-cycle refresh.

    • @theMLBfan
      @theMLBfan Рік тому +4

      That's exactly what they'll do. It's nothing more than lazy design/marketing.

    • @RemixerUltimate
      @RemixerUltimate Рік тому +2

      @@naveenthemachine that just sounds like fanboyism.
      Edit: reading the rest of your comments, you do sound like a fanboy.

    • @pdet1951
      @pdet1951 Рік тому +1

      Can’t put no 4 x 8 ft plywood in there

    • @michael72012
      @michael72012 10 місяців тому

      I don’t know why you people crying for the 12” screen, do you guys watch a movie with the 12” screen or something? Or is it not big enough for your GPS or the back up camera? 12” screen does nothing for me except creating more blind spots

  • @jsfbay1
    @jsfbay1 Рік тому

    Thanks for your usually thorough review! Alex, do you know if infotainment software is OTA updateable? That would be nice!

  • @Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219
    @Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219 Рік тому +4

    My everyday Honda SUV! Terrific job Alex.

  • @johngeorge7931
    @johngeorge7931 Рік тому +1

    Finally arrived. I was waiting for this video from alex

  • @wacoodude6567
    @wacoodude6567 Рік тому +9

    I am worried if you ever use the front recovery point you will damage the front bumper if the rope/chain moves upwards

    • @ImportedFromSerbia
      @ImportedFromSerbia Рік тому

      I agree with you unless they're philosophy, the Pilot stuck in the front facing down you are towing the vehicle from the rear. But as you said, the challenging is to get to the recovery point in the mud, and possibility to rip off the front bumper towing the car.

  • @purleybaker
    @purleybaker Рік тому

    This is a really well done review. Thanks.

  • @terrym6837
    @terrym6837 Рік тому +7

    Advice to all new vehicle buyers: please familiarize yourself with the recovery points of these newer vehicles because they’re getting less obviously placed, less accessible, or disappearing altogether. Last thing you want when you are stuck is a tow truck being forced to latch onto a suspension part or the wheel because they cannot find the newer access points and end up damaging your vehicle.

    • @squidusn71
      @squidusn71 Рік тому

      I don't think that's a problem for the tow truck driver. The previous generation Pilot with the 9 speed is to worry about. You need to know how to put that sucker into neutral.

  • @Smcat913
    @Smcat913 Рік тому +1

    on Honda's website they list the cargo behind the 3rd row as 22.4 including the under floor storage. 18.6 without the underfloor storage

  • @dturk1022
    @dturk1022 Рік тому

    Alex, do you know if this will be the refreshed front face of the 2024 Ridgeline? My 2023 is due in in about 1 week, should I wait for the 2024? (probably not!)

  • @danmiller5881
    @danmiller5881 Рік тому +1

    Alex, any word on when you will get to drive one back home? Really want to know the numbers on how this stacks up.

  • @lkae4
    @lkae4 Рік тому +7

    Trailsport looks like a fantastic trim. I wonder how the noise at highway cruise compares to the Elite trim.

    • @MJ-fj9yv
      @MJ-fj9yv Рік тому +1

      Per other reviewers, specifically one from Car Gurus, not noticeable.

    • @peterandrewj
      @peterandrewj Рік тому +2

      Besides the tires the Elite has double pane windows on the driver and passenger side.

  • @ET-dg3ud
    @ET-dg3ud Рік тому +5

    I loved the removable middle seat until I realized there were no arm rests on the captains chairs once you removed them !

    • @Popcornbeetle
      @Popcornbeetle Рік тому +1

      Because they aren’t real captain chairs. Ok trade off as I don’t care for captain chairs if you lose three seats.

  • @howlingwolf125y
    @howlingwolf125y Рік тому +7

    Very nice job on the Pilot by Honda.. The only bad thing that Honda did for the new Pilot is that they didn't give it a regular traditional shifter.

    • @ABishop681
      @ABishop681 Рік тому +2

      hahaha i was just test driving and thought the same thing! Its a more masculine Pilot again and should have a shifter. The buttongs make me feel uneasy. I never know if I am in park or reverse or what. I like the tactile shifter and to be able to use it quickly. Not fumbling over and second guessing buttons.

    • @howlingwolf125y
      @howlingwolf125y Рік тому +2

      @@ABishop681 Yes Andrew.. I totally agree with you 100%.. I think a lot of people agree with you and me - a traditional shifter would have been MUCH better.. I think Honda did a pretty good job with the new Honda.. but it would'a been even better with just a good old traditional shifter.. instead of that push button shifter.. Not sure why Honda did that... BTW, the new Civic, New Accord, New CRV all have traditional shifters.. but they went with the push button on the Pilot.. That is a shame.

  • @GonzaReformado
    @GonzaReformado Рік тому +4

    The Trailsport would have been fantastic had it included the removable seat! Honda, fix that for the next year model!

  • @RetrieverTrainingAlone
    @RetrieverTrainingAlone 9 місяців тому

    Width between the wheel wells? Will 2 24 inch dog boxes fit side by side? Can you manually turn the lights on? Can you manually lock/unlock the vehicle? Is there space for a real spare tire or just a donut?

  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning Рік тому +7

    I'm disappointed that the TrailSport can't get the 8 passenger option and that it's only 8.3 inches of ground clearance, that's the same as my Rogue Select. I will say however I much prefer and have much more confidence in the front recovery point in the skid plate vs the eyelet on the Subaru Wilderness models, I'd trade off on getting muddy or dirty for that personally.

    • @brohammer
      @brohammer Рік тому +1

      I mean.. to say Subarus are terrible off road is pretty ridiculous. They’re not as good as a Jeep, but they are not meant to compete there. Watch videos of Subarus off-road on other channels and you will see they are better than most going light off-roading. Honda does have really good awd though, will give them that.

  • @oi32df
    @oi32df Рік тому +3

    10:40 amazing to see such a big vehicle with such a small rear opening.

  • @jerrymadigan6239
    @jerrymadigan6239 Рік тому +40

    Screen size is about #49 in importance for me. For light off-roading, the Trailsport appears to blow away any other CUV with good road manners.

    • @supriyasou3722
      @supriyasou3722 Рік тому +17

      Indeed. Screen size is a factor for me while buying a TV not a car. I think 9in is plenty big. (No that’s what she said jokes please)

    • @matthewgeissinger2856
      @matthewgeissinger2856 Рік тому

      And that middle row flexibility is a big plus. I looked at a Palisade Limited a few months back and I was told by the sales rep that it’s only captain chairs. So I am paying for more features; but I get less seating options. That didn’t make sense to me.

    • @ruturaj47
      @ruturaj47 Рік тому +1

      What are first 48?

    • @ruturaj47
      @ruturaj47 Рік тому

      @@matthewgeissinger2856 you can pay less, get lower trim with more seating on those.

    • @1pittmanj
      @1pittmanj Рік тому

      I agree 1000%! Who cares what the screen size is? Heck make them smaller

  • @1spartacus1337
    @1spartacus1337 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been waiting forever for you to do this one.

  • @mirhuda1047
    @mirhuda1047 Рік тому

    Great Review...Spot on in most of the things...Just got my 2023 Pilot TrailSport with HPD Launch Package... Took it to moderate off-road right away...and it didn't disappoint me at all...rather full of surprise! In a good way ofcourse ...

  • @billyjoejimbob56
    @billyjoejimbob56 Рік тому +5

    Very comprehensive review... great job. As a 2017 Pilot owner, this is candidate for the next time around. I have always liked the bright trim molding around the single DLO on the current Pilot and on the latest gen MDX. The separate "trapezoidal 3rd row windows on the '23 Pilot is without doubt the ugliest thing about the new design. Its shape doesn't look like it belongs on this vehicle and the blind spots are too big. I'm a big fan of the old SOHC J35 V6... relatively simple and robust. I hope the DOHC and cam phasing is trouble free. Ten speed AT is best-in-class.

    • @mikemills8765
      @mikemills8765 11 місяців тому +1

      What's a DLO?

    • @billyjoejimbob56
      @billyjoejimbob56 11 місяців тому +1

      @@mikemills8765 DayLight Opening... the outline of the side glass. In the example I gave, the vertical window frames at B and C pillars are blacked out and all of the side glass is outlined with one molding.

  • @NoodlesExtraMSG
    @NoodlesExtraMSG Рік тому +2

    The removable middle seat in the 2nd row is something the Odyssey and Sienna has had for years. The party trick is being a decent size and have a proper storage integrated.
    Maybe in another few years, they will adapt all Minivan seat designs and let you remove the outboard 2nd row seats as well.

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain Рік тому +1

      I'm hoping for the addition of sliding doors to get in and out easier :)

    • @jaytibby
      @jaytibby Рік тому +1

      @@ShaiyanHossain 🤣🤣

  • @dexteww
    @dexteww Рік тому

    HOWS THE TIMING BELT AUTO TRANSMISSION ENGINE DRIVETRAIN AND SUSPENSION?

  • @JamesRussoMillas
    @JamesRussoMillas Рік тому

    Do all versions of the Pilot (including the LX) have the SH-AWD system if awd equipped?

  • @TheAdventureAuto
    @TheAdventureAuto Рік тому +20

    The removable second row middle seat is a game changer. I sell cars and so many people ask if a vehicle has a pass thru middle. If it's removable on all trims that's going to help this Pilot sell.

    • @brenrob7403
      @brenrob7403 Рік тому

      I think it's only on the Elite trim

    • @almassengale
      @almassengale Рік тому +1

      @@brenrob7403 And the Touring.

    • @jaytibby
      @jaytibby Рік тому +2

      I just wish it was an option for every trim

    • @jaytibby
      @jaytibby Рік тому +2

      @Anthony D I wish the TS came with that option and not just captains chairs.

    • @shararihamideh1608
      @shararihamideh1608 Рік тому

      @@jaytibby the trailsport doesn't get the removable seat because the place where the seat is supposed to go in the touring and elite is the spot for the full size spare tire

  • @Kanti12311
    @Kanti12311 Рік тому +1

    Love to get one. My 2019 touring is about to be paid off, but the damn APR is stopping me

  • @nickcivic21
    @nickcivic21 Рік тому

    I loved your review of the Acura TLX TYPE S and I almost bought one but I need more space as the Acura was too small and too compromise can’t wait to finish!!! This video

  • @TimeisReel
    @TimeisReel Рік тому +1

    Alex, another Great Review and Comparison...👍

  • @roysmith4953
    @roysmith4953 Рік тому

    What about GPS, lane keeping or lane centering?

  • @Jonbarfour
    @Jonbarfour Рік тому +1

    I'd like to see a button instead of a column lever to adjust the tilt and telescope steering, and hood struts instead of a cheaply hood wedge

  • @trletts
    @trletts Рік тому

    You didn't mention it Alex but I read somewhere else that this suggests Premium fuel to get the quoted numbers? If it is, kind of a miss. It gets 1 MPG better than say Telluride but the Telly is using regular.

  • @ctclardy
    @ctclardy Рік тому +1

    Great and thorough in-depth review... however, I am more intrigued by its smaller version the Passport TrailSport, and wonder if it has the same off-road chops and transmission as the Pilot TrailSport?

    • @YellowstoneCountryFlyFishing
      @YellowstoneCountryFlyFishing Рік тому

      Not the current generation. Let's hope the redesign (assuming there is one) gets the changes, if not more. A Passport Trailsport WITH A HYBRID and closer to 9" of clearance would unquestionably be my next vehicle if it does. Probably not with 23mpg highway and only 8.4" of clearance.

    • @MJ-fj9yv
      @MJ-fj9yv Рік тому

      Likely may also have the AWD like the RDX

  • @TheMainCal
    @TheMainCal Рік тому

    So is the awd system different between trail sport and elite?

  • @yogiyo888
    @yogiyo888 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the review. I’ve had three Honda minivans as well as two Accords. All suffered early warping of brake rotors and needed service and replacement before 36K miles. You’d mentioned that this new Pilot had larger brakes. Do you have some thoughts you might share on its potential reliability?

    • @neppcity
      @neppcity Рік тому

      Same, I hear this model is no different with undersized rotors for its size

  • @sdfiske64
    @sdfiske64 Рік тому +1

    For the longest time I was a die hard Toyota fan. I've owned 2 Ridgeline. Planning on purchasing another one as soon as they update the Ridgeline to look like the new pilot

  • @krzysztofcwik5347
    @krzysztofcwik5347 Рік тому

    Central screen from Accord, Childseat tilt for 2nd row - graet, but for me two things more - PHEV power and prices for Europe:)

  • @smcstl
    @smcstl Рік тому

    The side rear glass looks like an afterthought. It’s does a great disservice to the overall look.

  • @oi32df
    @oi32df Рік тому

    0:57 What gives the appearance of a RWD proportion is not the length of the hood which is summarized here in a longer front overhang but rather the distance between the back of the front wheel arch and the front part of the door . Just by loolking at the profile it's clearly an fwd base vehicule cause this distance is very short as in any Fwd .

  • @wmdoux2108
    @wmdoux2108 10 місяців тому

    How is the ride of the Sport trim with the 20” wheels?

  • @umidr
    @umidr 11 місяців тому

    Aftet removing middle seat in 2 nd row …what about hand rest for remaining cpatain seat arrangement???

  • @MJ-fj9yv
    @MJ-fj9yv Рік тому +6

    Excellent review, Alex. Seems I found my new SUV which is much better priced with common sense approach than US counterparts.

  • @nevhoffman
    @nevhoffman Рік тому

    Alex when ru gonna do a full-review of the CR-V? Particularly the Hybrid. I know you have a video on it from the press event, but you didn't have your official scores in it.

  • @Pdep90
    @Pdep90 Рік тому +3

    I would like to see a comparison between this and the pathfinder

  • @lostjr
    @lostjr Рік тому

    Are the camshafts belt driven, or chain?

  • @John-vh1fk
    @John-vh1fk Рік тому +2

    The removable center seat was a good idea but appears poorly executed. That mechanism could have been designed better to not protrude so high and the remaining 2 seats could have been designed to accommodate flip down armrests for when the middle seat is removed.

  • @ChrisHsuCars
    @ChrisHsuCars Рік тому

    I noticed you didn’t compare the space to the Volkswagen Atlas. How does the space compare to that vehicle?

  • @jeffrobinson5716
    @jeffrobinson5716 Рік тому +1

    I have a 2012 Honda Pilot and love it, but it is getting about time to buy a new one. I did not like the third generation Pilot's body style. I had my eye on the Kia Telluride until I saw this 2023 Pilot. Now my loyalty will stay with Honda.

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider Рік тому +1

    please do a V6 Honda Pilot vs V6 Toyota Highlander video

  • @CMahaney6
    @CMahaney6 2 місяці тому

    I just got the 24 touring and I love it. Nicer than any other pilot I’ve owned for numerous reasons and I love the new design. Looks more like an SUV and not a minivan.

  • @th3prof3ssional
    @th3prof3ssional Рік тому

    I believe they said they wanted the screen small and up high so your eyes won't stray away from the road. Honestly theys screens are getting bad, what the difference in texting and driving and messing with a 20"screen

  • @anthonyszeto5508
    @anthonyszeto5508 Рік тому +1

    I'm wondering when the new redesign Passport will be available? I gather it would be increase in size.

  • @elizabethstewart552
    @elizabethstewart552 Рік тому +1

    Great video!
    I’m shopping for a new three row SUV. I have two middle schoolers, but I carpool a lot and the kids have big sports bags. I need the room. I also don’t want a 4-cylinder because I need to occasionally tow our jet skis.
    My husband owned a 2008 Pilot, and he loved it. He later traded it in for a Lexus and regretted it.
    Right now I’m trying to chose between the Kia Telluride X-Pro, the Buick Enclave Avenir, and the Pilot Elite. I actually really like the Buick - it feels a lot more high-end and it’s very roomy and comfortable. My dealership is also willing to negotiate, unlike Kia that wants 7K over MSRP. The Highlander is too small for me and I don’t want to wait for the Grand Highlander.

    • @jamescuster870
      @jamescuster870 Рік тому +2

      Go with the Pilot, better engine, Honda 10 speed Transmission, and AWD is better, The Pilot Elite technology is not as sophisticated as the Kia or Hyundai on the top SUV they sell. BUT Kia dealers are known as being hard to deal with. As for GM /Buick and all other GM vehicles they are just are not as good any more. I just traded in my 2022 Hyundai SUV in for a 2023 Elite. Why? After 2 recalls that was fixed and a few other things I felt it was time to trade up.
      I have had 3 Pilots over the years but the 2018 was dog with the 9 speed transmission that Honda could never get it right. Came back to Honda now that they have gone to the Honda 10 speed. I wish you luck because it's really hard to find a good dealer and get a half way good deal. Good Luck

    • @dimav975
      @dimav975 Рік тому

      What about Grand Cherokee L?

  • @Katya5cat
    @Katya5cat Рік тому +1

    We were just out test driving the Pilot and Passport. When I got my tape measure out and checked the width of cargo area the wife snapped. "You're not hauling drywall in this car." Yikes! No matter it was under 48" more like 43" or so at the floor.

  • @rick8125
    @rick8125 Рік тому +3

    Nice vehicle, great video. Little to large for me don’t need 3 rows. You mentioned in the 1st 2 minutes the next Passport will share the same face, boxier shape,,,Honda has been really pumping out the new models! When do you except the next generation Passport to arrive?

    • @fredmoss4540
      @fredmoss4540 Рік тому

      Probably after Ridgeline redesign its up next.

    • @spursdynasty7378
      @spursdynasty7378 Рік тому +1

      I’ll wait to buy that instead. Almost bought a 23 Passport last weekend. Seeing this has me excited for the redesigned Passport.

  • @slick_anonymous1126
    @slick_anonymous1126 Рік тому

    Kind of want to get this since my 2020 lease is about to be up, but also want to wait for the Honda prologue since it will be their first electric car.

  • @naarealy
    @naarealy Рік тому

    I'm surprised there isn't a hybrid or phev. Maybe for the mid-cycle refresh.

  • @ching5235
    @ching5235 Рік тому

    Your review is great. Appreciate the honesty instead of only saying how great everything is. I am curious if it is possible at a later time to replace the LCD display.

  • @mbivc8170
    @mbivc8170 Рік тому

    What is roof rack load capacity?

  • @TheKingkingg
    @TheKingkingg Рік тому

    Awesome suv thanks for sharing

  • @CJ-zz9ts
    @CJ-zz9ts Рік тому +2

    Alex, is this an interference engine, belt driven or timing chain V6? Great review!

    • @pinkisforpimps
      @pinkisforpimps Рік тому

      Belt driven. Requires a change at 100k miles

  • @adamwright9741
    @adamwright9741 Рік тому +3

    By the way, when you said this is not King of the hill, I can't really detect anything in the video that told me so, at least as far as price. I'm getting the feeling this might be the best damn three-row crossover and with bigger third-row headroom than super-sized SUVs (?) Fogettaboutit!
    I wish I liked the new CR-V but I really can't stand it. I think Honda hit it out of the park with this Pilot, though.

  • @ZStHope
    @ZStHope Рік тому

    Alex, I thought the exact same in regards to it resembling the Durango

  • @golferpro1241
    @golferpro1241 Рік тому

    The screen looks misplaced, no traditional shifter and a zonk on the timing belt. I have a Highlander but the Pilot wins with the rear cargo space and headroom for sure, nice vehicle!

  • @mountainhobo
    @mountainhobo Рік тому

    No digital rearview mirror on any trim?

  • @dumpster555
    @dumpster555 Рік тому

    Finally a Honda transmission. This was the missing link for me. I'm a buyer!!

  • @harriet8177
    @harriet8177 Рік тому

    The most detailed review I’ve ever seen.