It's odd sometimes I wonder if they really are 'better' or if it's just all hype. If im being honest I think its just asthetics, neck feel and an authentic nitro finish that draws me in. History is pretty cool to. If only we could go back and snag a whole bunch cheap ;) I havn't played any 70s guitars yet but even they are getting more popular.
@@NickLoopsGuitar Part of it is probably that the cheaper ones in the 60s could sometimes be lacking in quality control. Still, ones from Danelectro, Harmony, and Kay often had their own character, instead of just copying Strats or whatever. I have a 66 - 68 Kay that, while I like its sound and how light it is to hold, it still has fret file marks all over the High E side of the fretboard. There's still neck paint on the truss rod nut, too, there wasn't a ground wire in stock form, and the bridge also couldn't be intonated. But it still has a working truss rod, and the neck is remarkably comfortable for being a thick and wide one with a V Profile. Kays often get overlooked and dumped on because the company was later sold in 1969, and got to be one of the more prolific names slapped on imports. It's ridiculous to put the Pre-1969 ones in the same lot as the Import types from 1969 - the 1980s / 1990s / early 2000s.
I also have a ‘64! Mine was originally Dakota Red like yours as well, but the previous owner stripped and stained it back in the 70’s. Amazing guitar, definitely plays itself. I find the out of phase positions useful for recording. It can be really cool to layer parts and add in that out of phase sound
Neat! I love guitars with some history. Can you see some of the original finish in the routes? Hmm I've never tried layering guitar parts with the out of phase sound I'll have to try it. Honestly, mustang's are some of the most comfortable guitars thanks to their scale length and size. Thanks for the tip! and for watching!
@@NickLoopsGuitar yea, I’ll sometimes double a part by adding in that thinner sound, or panning them hard left and hard right. And yes, I can see a tiny bit of that red finish in the pickup cavities, but I actually got it from the original owner who confirmed its original color!
I have a 1965 in that same color. But I modded it so it''s actually playable. :) The lack of adjustment screws on the saddle drove me insane so I swapped out the bridge and machine heads (still have the originals), and then I removed the springs from the vibrato, reversed the cigar-shaped tailpiece and put a few washers on the spring screws so the tailpiece stays mounted to the baseplate. There's no vibrato function, but I still have the arm. The 24 in. scale neck gives it a cool twang. but I don't like the skinny frets and the thin fretboard. Frets were getting pretty worn when I got it back in the day but I'll never give it a fret job as the fretboard would have to be replaced as well. It has it's uses, but I don't play it much at all anymore. Prior to the mods, the guitar was kind of a turd, in my opinion.
great video and a beautiful guitar! for some reason youtube has been recommending me small guitar channels. ive heen digging everyone i have come across. might inspire me to do some myself
Thanks! All I wanted when I started was a comment like yours :) You should give it a go, a few more smaller down to earth you-tubers can never hurt. I just use my phone and a free version of 'Da Vinci Resolve'. If you need any tips, feel free to reach out.
I know this guitar very well. I had one of the same color that I bought secondhand, in 1970. When he says, at 5:27: "Middle series." This guitar does not have the possibility of connecting both pickups in series. When both pickups are connected, it is always in parallel.
Congratulations on purchasing this fantastic Mustang. The headstock was only available until 1965. The F plate is interesting, a bit early for a 1964 Fender. Those were from the L series!? But you never know exactly when these instruments were fully assembled. The guitar is in good hands with you. 🙏🏻🍀 Greetings Adi 🎸🤗
Hi Nick! I have the same guitar in perfect condition and all original, Dakota red, Dated in 8 Agoust of 1964 (L plate) the month and year when fender started to sell the the Mustangs, so is one of the first Mustang and it have a particularity... the Dots in the neck are not in pearl are maked with a withe paste... maybe is one of "prototypes"... to old one... It sounds perfect and I have another in Olympic white too... very fan of Mustangs... so thank you for share this gutar here on UA-cam.
I have a modern version of this Mustang but with P90 pick ups I recently put 09s on it, I think I’ll go back to 10s but the nut adjuster is Od size and I struggle to adjust the truss rod ! As it was a little too relieved with 10s the 09 experiment was in part due to that.
Cool! would sound pretty interesting with p90s. Should only need a little tightening of the truss rod when going up to 10s. Quarter of a turn. Righty tighty lefty loosy. The nut shouldnt be to much of an issue you could try putting some graphite or lip balm in the slots to lube them up.
@@chrisg5271 I have the same type of Mustang and I also struggle with finding an allan key that fits the truss rod.. Did you happen to find on that fits by now?
Hey! Thanks for the great video. I’m currently looking at the vintage 60s mustangs and jaguars trying to decide which one would best suit me. I know you also have that beautiful 64 jag from your other video. Curious, if you had to pick between the 2 as your main guitar which would you pick and why? I know it has a lot to do with preference, and the jaguars are usually a bit more expensive, but interested in you’re insight having both. Thanks!
Hey man , thanks for the comment :) I would say I have used my mustang more than either of my Jags for professional use. It is a more straightforward guitar. When i use to play live in a cover band, playing 3hr sets I always felt more comfortable on the mustang. I felt like less could go wrong regarding the trem and setup. It also sits nicer on your body when standing in my opinion. It's smaller and easier for me to carry around to teach my students. The string tension is greater on the mustang due to the distance from the bridge to trem being shorter. This can be a point to keep in mind. Jaguar pickups are a little louder and stronger, they sound fuller and richer. The trem has more range and is easier to control. I find the mustang being a little quieter doesn't get as rash when used with higher gain too and could suit a wider range of music. Saying all this if I had to get rid of all my guitars but one, Id be keeping the 64 Jag. It's just my favourite sound and the trem design is the best out there. Sure it wont do ever genre justice but at home playing by yourself in your own style that doesn't matter all to much. If choosing either I would always be going for the original designs so your 60s options are a great choice. Make sure you get it set up well! The cost is probably only different due to having a few more electronics and a cutaway on the body. That's all I can think of anyways haha. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask and I can do my best to answer!
@@NickLoopsGuitar Super cool. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts about each! I ended up stopping by a local guitar shop to get some experience playing them. Ive played/owned a few reissues of Jags and Mustangs but not much of the real vintage originals, so it was good to get a couple in my hand. Long story short I don’t think I’ll beat the Mustang feel. You’re right about the body size being much more comfortable. And this specific vintage mustang neck felt so right. The jag neck felt thick, at least the one I tried. Although I did like the fullness of the jaguar pickups. That’s the only thing I really missed on the Mustang. I’ve noticed some people rewind vintage mustang pickups to be a bit hotter. Wonder if that’s a good solution. Anyway, thanks again! Keep enjoying those beautiful guitars.
@@waterfallstrainer Awesome no worries, glad to hear you got your guitar :) I think you have made the right choice given what you have said. 90% of guitar playing is how the neck feels anyways. Maybe someone makes some fuller sounding mustang pickups? tbh though i think some of it just has to do with the construction of a mustang.
@@taxationistheft2.0 I miss labeled them :S parallel is fantastic. Out of phase not so much. Don't really know why they put it as an option tbh seems like just because they had the switch options haha
Yeah i made a mistake, I think I mentioned it in the description. You are correct the two switches pointing outwards or inwards creates out of phase not series/parallel.
I have a 78 mocha but the paint is already worn out and the back of the neck is on the blackish due to the worn out coating. it is hard to see the dot at the side when playing hahaha..
Couldn't think of what to play haha, Weezer it is. What do you prefer? To hear the same thing on each pick up or for the person to just be creative the whole video?
@@NickLoopsGuitar personally, i prefer hearing parts of the songs or whole songs. That inspires me to keep playing and learning. There is something about a guitar sound that almost makes all other instruments superfluous.
Normally I play telecasters. I love to play soft rock, a little classic rock, and country. You think I could add a mustang to my collection or should I stick to teles?
I think a mustang would be a nice addition. Not as much sustain, weaker output. Would give you a great alternative sound to a 'stiff' in your face Tele. I don't know what other guitars you have though. Could probably find a deal on a good mij one from the 90s otherwise I've heard decent things about the fender 'performer' mustang. I'm sure there is a model out there that would suit your fancy :)
Question, on the "current" production lines (from Squier Bullet, CV, Fender Player) what would be the one you have seen /feel the closest to yours???? I really want a 'stang but cant make my mind over how expensive the ones with all the features get. 😮 0:32 is it the light or the fret wire is cut shorter than the width of the board?
The frets are so worn and rounded on the edges it looks like they are short but really they are just rolled. They barley leave the wood. I need to get it re-fret but I love how it plays currently.
Having a look at those three options, id choose based on what pickup/bridge your after. Personally, I'd go with a traditional mustang layout, so the MIJ traditional mustang, classic vibe or Vintera. Depending how it plays id slowly swap out parts for better quality. Mainly the pickups or the tailpiece if ur a big user of the trem. Electronics should be fine on all of them, so to the bridge :)
Back in the 70's, you couldn't hardly give those guitars away. Strats of that era sold for maybe a couple hundred bucks.
It's odd sometimes I wonder if they really are 'better' or if it's just all hype. If im being honest I think its just asthetics, neck feel and an authentic nitro finish that draws me in.
History is pretty cool to.
If only we could go back and snag a whole bunch cheap ;)
I havn't played any 70s guitars yet but even they are getting more popular.
@@NickLoopsGuitar Part of it is probably that the cheaper ones in the 60s could sometimes be lacking in quality control. Still, ones from Danelectro, Harmony, and Kay often had their own character, instead of just copying Strats or whatever.
I have a 66 - 68 Kay that, while I like its sound and how light it is to hold, it still has fret file marks all over the High E side of the fretboard. There's still neck paint on the truss rod nut, too, there wasn't a ground wire in stock form, and the bridge also couldn't be intonated. But it still has a working truss rod, and the neck is remarkably comfortable for being a thick and wide one with a V Profile.
Kays often get overlooked and dumped on because the company was later sold in 1969, and got to be one of the more prolific names slapped on imports. It's ridiculous to put the Pre-1969 ones in the same lot as the Import types from 1969 - the 1980s / 1990s / early 2000s.
I have that exact same guitar, right down to the color. Bought it for $20 in the late 80s. Don’t play it much but I’ll never get rid of it.
I also have a ‘64! Mine was originally Dakota Red like yours as well, but the previous owner stripped and stained it back in the 70’s. Amazing guitar, definitely plays itself. I find the out of phase positions useful for recording. It can be really cool to layer parts and add in that out of phase sound
Neat! I love guitars with some history. Can you see some of the original finish in the routes? Hmm I've never tried layering guitar parts with the out of phase sound I'll have to try it. Honestly, mustang's are some of the most comfortable guitars thanks to their scale length and size.
Thanks for the tip! and for watching!
@@NickLoopsGuitar yea, I’ll sometimes double a part by adding in that thinner sound, or panning them hard left and hard right. And yes, I can see a tiny bit of that red finish in the pickup cavities, but I actually got it from the original owner who confirmed its original color!
I have a 1965 in that same color. But I modded it so it''s actually playable. :) The lack of adjustment screws on the saddle drove me insane so I swapped out the bridge and machine heads (still have the originals), and then I removed the springs from the vibrato, reversed the cigar-shaped tailpiece and put a few washers on the spring screws so the tailpiece stays mounted to the baseplate.
There's no vibrato function, but I still have the arm.
The 24 in. scale neck gives it a cool twang. but I don't like the skinny frets and the thin fretboard. Frets were getting pretty worn when I got it back in the day but I'll never give it a fret job as the fretboard would have to be replaced as well.
It has it's uses, but I don't play it much at all anymore.
Prior to the mods, the guitar was kind of a turd, in my opinion.
great video and a beautiful guitar!
for some reason youtube has been recommending me small guitar channels. ive heen digging everyone i have come across. might inspire me to do some myself
Thanks! All I wanted when I started was a comment like yours :) You should give it a go, a few more smaller down to earth you-tubers can never hurt. I just use my phone and a free version of 'Da Vinci Resolve'. If you need any tips, feel free to reach out.
Intro loop so good subbed right when I heard it
Thank you! That's so nice to hear :)
I have two, beautiful guitars, great for blues. ♥️🎸.
Sounds dreamy and kind of percussive. Enjoyed listening
I know this guitar very well. I had one of the same color that I bought secondhand, in 1970.
When he says, at 5:27: "Middle series."
This guitar does not have the possibility of connecting both pickups in series. When both pickups are connected, it is always in parallel.
Yeah in phase or out of phase, right? I think i put a note in the comments. Do you still have yours? Thanks for the comment :)
Congratulations on purchasing this fantastic Mustang. The headstock was only available until 1965. The F plate is interesting, a bit early for a 1964 Fender. Those were from the L series!? But you never know exactly when these instruments were fully assembled. The guitar is in good hands with you. 🙏🏻🍀 Greetings Adi 🎸🤗
Didn't know the headstock changed. What exactly is different? Thanks for the information and glad you enjoyed watching :)
Beginning in 1965, CBS used the larger headstocks on many models!
Hi Nick! I have the same guitar in perfect condition and all original, Dakota red, Dated in 8 Agoust of 1964 (L plate) the month and year when fender started to sell the the Mustangs, so is one of the first Mustang and it have a particularity... the Dots in the neck are not in pearl are maked with a withe paste... maybe is one of "prototypes"... to old one... It sounds perfect and I have another in Olympic white too... very fan of Mustangs... so thank you for share this gutar here on UA-cam.
Sounds very incredible immo
Thanks, its a lovely guitar. :)
Kurt Cobain put those on the map, it’s like Paul McCartneys Hofner bass is was cheap but worked and sounded great.
I love that guitar!
I have a modern version of this Mustang but with P90 pick ups I recently put 09s on it, I think I’ll go back to 10s but the nut adjuster is Od size and I struggle to adjust the truss rod ! As it was a little too relieved with 10s the 09 experiment was in part due to that.
Cool! would sound pretty interesting with p90s. Should only need a little tightening of the truss rod when going up to 10s. Quarter of a turn. Righty tighty lefty loosy.
The nut shouldnt be to much of an issue you could try putting some graphite or lip balm in the slots to lube them up.
@@NickLoopsGuitar thanks yes it’s just finding a Allen key to fit it next string change I’ll give it another go
@@chrisg5271 I have the same type of Mustang and I also struggle with finding an allan key that fits the truss rod.. Did you happen to find on that fits by now?
@@FredWood41 um I did find one out of the many I have eventually, annoyingly I don’t know where I put it now lol!!
Hey! Thanks for the great video. I’m currently looking at the vintage 60s mustangs and jaguars trying to decide which one would best suit me. I know you also have that beautiful 64 jag from your other video. Curious, if you had to pick between the 2 as your main guitar which would you pick and why? I know it has a lot to do with preference, and the jaguars are usually a bit more expensive, but interested in you’re insight having both. Thanks!
Hey man , thanks for the comment :)
I would say I have used my mustang more than either of my Jags for professional use. It is a more straightforward guitar. When i use to play live in a cover band, playing 3hr sets I always felt more comfortable on the mustang. I felt like less could go wrong regarding the trem and setup. It also sits nicer on your body when standing in my opinion. It's smaller and easier for me to carry around to teach my students.
The string tension is greater on the mustang due to the distance from the bridge to trem being shorter. This can be a point to keep in mind.
Jaguar pickups are a little louder and stronger, they sound fuller and richer. The trem has more range and is easier to control.
I find the mustang being a little quieter doesn't get as rash when used with higher gain too and could suit a wider range of music.
Saying all this if I had to get rid of all my guitars but one, Id be keeping the 64 Jag. It's just my favourite sound and the trem design is the best out there. Sure it wont do ever genre justice but at home playing by yourself in your own style that doesn't matter all to much.
If choosing either I would always be going for the original designs so your 60s options are a great choice. Make sure you get it set up well!
The cost is probably only different due to having a few more electronics and a cutaway on the body. That's all I can think of anyways haha.
If you have any specific questions feel free to ask and I can do my best to answer!
@@NickLoopsGuitar Super cool. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts about each! I ended up stopping by a local guitar shop to get some experience playing them. Ive played/owned a few reissues of Jags and Mustangs but not much of the real vintage originals, so it was good to get a couple in my hand. Long story short I don’t think I’ll beat the Mustang feel. You’re right about the body size being much more comfortable. And this specific vintage mustang neck felt so right. The jag neck felt thick, at least the one I tried. Although I did like the fullness of the jaguar pickups. That’s the only thing I really missed on the Mustang. I’ve noticed some people rewind vintage mustang pickups to be a bit hotter. Wonder if that’s a good solution. Anyway, thanks again! Keep enjoying those beautiful guitars.
@@waterfallstrainer Awesome no worries, glad to hear you got your guitar :) I think you have made the right choice given what you have said. 90% of guitar playing is how the neck feels anyways. Maybe someone makes some fuller sounding mustang pickups? tbh though i think some of it just has to do with the construction of a mustang.
Would love to hear some much longer songs, 10 min+
Haha, That would be interesting. I could do stuff like that which is on my Instagram but longer duration.
the bridge is so nice
@@taxationistheft2.0 I miss labeled them :S parallel is fantastic. Out of phase not so much. Don't really know why they put it as an option tbh seems like just because they had the switch options haha
@@NickLoopsGuitar surf music maybe
Yeah maybe but its a bit quacky
5:28 -How come is that?
Original Mustang didn’t have series/parallel switching.
It all occurred in parallel: in phase or out of phase.
Yeah i made a mistake, I think I mentioned it in the description. You are correct the two switches pointing outwards or inwards creates out of phase not series/parallel.
@@NickLoopsGuitar
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I have a 78 mocha but the paint is already worn out and the back of the neck is on the blackish due to the worn out coating.
it is hard to see the dot at the side when playing hahaha..
haha that sounds tough. But I imagine it looks beautiful :)
awesome, we got some weezer too !
Couldn't think of what to play haha, Weezer it is. What do you prefer? To hear the same thing on each pick up or for the person to just be creative the whole video?
@@NickLoopsGuitar personally, i prefer hearing parts of the songs or whole songs. That inspires me to keep playing and learning. There is something about a guitar sound that almost makes all other instruments superfluous.
Thanks for that :) @@gitarozok
Normally I play telecasters. I love to play soft rock, a little classic rock, and country. You think I could add a mustang to my collection or should I stick to teles?
I think a mustang would be a nice addition. Not as much sustain, weaker output. Would give you a great alternative sound to a 'stiff' in your face Tele. I don't know what other guitars you have though.
Could probably find a deal on a good mij one from the 90s otherwise I've heard decent things about the fender 'performer' mustang. I'm sure there is a model out there that would suit your fancy :)
@@NickLoopsGuitar thank you for the advice- really appreciate it!
Question, on the "current" production lines (from Squier Bullet, CV, Fender Player) what would be the one you have seen /feel the closest to yours????
I really want a 'stang but cant make my mind over how expensive the ones with all the features get. 😮
0:32 is it the light or the fret wire is cut shorter than the width of the board?
The frets are so worn and rounded on the edges it looks like they are short but really they are just rolled. They barley leave the wood. I need to get it re-fret but I love how it plays currently.
Having a look at those three options, id choose based on what pickup/bridge your after. Personally, I'd go with a traditional mustang layout, so the MIJ traditional mustang, classic vibe or Vintera. Depending how it plays id slowly swap out parts for better quality. Mainly the pickups or the tailpiece if ur a big user of the trem. Electronics should be fine on all of them, so to the bridge :)
The guitar of the anti guitar heroes
Nice guitar ! But i don't think it is from 1964. Looking at the neck scale and the "F" neck plate it looks like a 1965 model !
Elliot smith!!!!!
You know it! haha Best artist of all time :)
Regret selling my 66 duo sonic 😞
Rough stuff. Duo Sonic's are so cool! What colour was it? Sucks when we sell stuff we live to regret.
kurt cobains weapon of choice
Indeed, I think the thin/low output pickups give a nice sound when pushed. Maybe that's why he chose it? Thanks for watching :)
@@NickLoopsGuitar just need a humbucker in the bridge 😁
@@taxationistheft2.0 HAHA pretty much!
Sounds v thin