Well, since the Typhon are interdimensional beings, there's a chance they might be present both in the Prey and Dishonored universe - they seem like the sort of lovecraftian monstrosity you'd expect to find in the void; perhaps both games take place in parallel dimensions that occasionally bleed into one another, explaining certain similarities. Of course there really isn't anything in either game to suggest such besides the occasional easter egg, but at least that's a thought that I had playing them.
I have this head canon that the typhon are from the void but they're not creations of the outsider, instead they are a lifeform of their that evolved within the void dimension, where the void energies aren't considered "Magic" but instead the typhon evolved to where the void energies became a part of their physiology which would explain their ability to shape shift their forms into almost anything while also helping to explain how its even possible for them to do so and their seemingly "alien" perception of other lifeforms is because of originating in the void dimension where time and space aren't the same as our own.
Sooo are we just gonna igmore the fact tht in Dishonored they use whales as a resource and all throughout Talos 1 you can find tanks of eels tht have obviously been harvested for power and/or their resources. Therefore confirming both civilizations AT LEAST share the same outlook in terms of where to harvest their energy. Idk just a thought
Hmm interesting take to be fair indeed! But now comes to my mind - Years ago, when the first Dishonored was out, I stumbled upon a game theory telling a different story of what the world of Dishonored actually could have been - namingly OUR very very distant past. The theory was mainly based on the journey reports of Sokolov and other scientists and explorers who went to explore the Pandyssian Continent - which, from the ingame books, was mostly described the way we could picture the original continent of Pangea - which existed in a time long before humans would walk the earth. (Even maps of the pandyssian continent from the game look pretty much like rendered maps of Pangeas assumed shape) It was theorizing that the empire of the isles was one of the first advanced human civilizations, long long before our world got the face we know today, long before humanity went the ways we know about. Since I heard about that theory, for some reason I found it so credible to just take it as canon for myself, I just absolutely love the idea... So technically - Dishonored could also be the pre-story for Prey - millions of years after the events of Dishonored, and after the world had changed and humanity had gone new ways, everyone had forgotten about the dark realm that had once bothered the people of our very earth so much - but then it returned in a new shape, and Prey could be the starting point of what was always hinted at in Dishonored - the void taking clearer shape (in form of the Typhon), leaking into our world and finally, eventually devouring it.
Ok so after looking at this and thinking about it what if all their games are connected. Dishonored is millions of years ago something cataclysmic happened and people went underground welcome to Arx Fatalis, the end of which shows there is some life on the surface, thousands of years go by to Prey and maybe death loops is in there somewhere as well, it's Arkane's connected universe ACU lol probably not though but it's always fun to speculate 🧐😂
Another thing is that the music the Overseers play on the music boxes are apparently derived from some sort of mathematics, and it renders your void powers inert. I don't know the exact connection, but it's a curious thought.
These theories are legendary. The only question I have is that if Dishonored is Prey in the future after humans had to restart again. How would you explain bthe Empire of the Isles and the Pandyssian Continent. As it is heavily implied that the world of Dishonored doesn't take place on Earth, but rather on its own planet.
I just beat pray and it's Dlc 100%, I'm playing through Dishonored 1 and it's Dlcs right now and once I beat Dishonored 2 and it's Dlc I'll be back to watch this video.
Old video but on a recent playthrough I noticed that when the Apex Typhon appears, it looks as if it is not covering the ship with itself but pulling the ship into the void. Ut looks a lot more like dishonored 2’s void than 1’s
well in death of the outsider it hints everything towards Prey and how Morgan yu & the YU family is involved in everything or he's a Time traveler etc etc it also implicates when Alex yu tells you the orange red skies are all over the city are the exact same from death loop its insane how the game interconnects
I mean, while we're listing similarities between series. The Isles and Pandyssia make a world map not dissimilar to Nirn. In both Dishonored and the Elder Scrolls, magic is derived from a plane beyond the mortal realm. Once again playing with the idea of time, could Dishonored take place in a different kalpa cycle from the Elder Scrolls games? "Due to the age resetting at a new Dawn Era, the creation of Mundus can emerge in different ways each kalpa, with different et'Ada playing different roles." -Excerpt from the Elder Scrolls Wiki on kalpas.
I was thinking that the reason Prey is so high tech, is because it was already advanced. This is because Dunwall is already very advanced for its time, so it would make sense that because dishonored already had a tech head start, its future would be even more advanced.
Daft Take Also I didn’t mean that in a derogatory way. Mine blowing for me is like the high end of what Ahoy makes. This is was still impressive! You did well!
is it 100% confirmed its normal earth in prey? if not. I would just assume Dishonored is before prey. explaining why the pistols and rifles simply look like flintlock versions of what you have in prey. and why prey has a odd sort of science as its history had changed. alternatively, perhaps the death of the outsider lead to the birth of a "normal" civilization. as each outsider (or lack of one) leads to a new age. Pandesia becoming Russia and the Isles becoming continents. (consider how different our world is now compared to the old one in real life, you would assume two separate histories must have happened especially considering the gods and myths and false islands and creatures many old countries believed in thinking the world/known areas was surrounded by monsters, then mud, then ice. and not much more after that just a endless expanse of ice. is that how the world is? not even close. Rome used to control all of Europe and it all used to just be called rome (I may totally be wrong but for whatever they took over in mass) and now it's known by 100 different names and groups of people unrelated to rome. not to mention all of dishonored could have happened alongside a normal history if it was in America or a fictional land that like america, wasn't discovered by the rest of the world until recently. which would then mean history (especially after the death of the outsider, warping reality and society as we knew it into a new, previously unseen one) could correct itself as hard as possible. space-time disruptions would back up my theory as reality is often described as easily wrapped but stubbornly elastic. aka "easily broken but instantly fixed when the anomaly is removed from that local space time" like how the effects of gravity from a large planet or black hole would instantly dissipate if that black hole or planet disappeared. it has little to no lingering effect, reality would have fell apart if not, due to gravity waves given off by super massive black holes. so by that same logic, remove the outsider and his "local gravity" of magic would also instantly disappear as reality would attempt to course correct to its normal. law of physics abiding state it usually is in. well why magic? why a separate history? why Typhon and laws of physics that don't exist here? simple. The outsider died, but the Void remains. all the Typhon do are connect to the Void with the Brood Mother (or whatever you wanna call the super large Typhon you see at the end) most likely taking on the position of overseer. accidentally evolving to a state of godhood because as much as reality tries to hold things together and warps reality to make it so, the Void does the same to preserve weirdness and in that way, not letting reality erase it away into the realm of fiction where it's too weak and disconnected from our world to manipulate its return to power. it got lucky enough to manifest monsters of a different, more scientific void, one not so easily dismissed as magic (as the Void has always had science behind it to justify its existence, but that arrogance also led to it having magical vulnerabilities such as harmony/music and magical artifacts. not to mention belief and faith which despite rarely ever working it undoubtedly empowered the Void by something that is honestly far more flimsy than fear, faith and hope, things that were easily lost and more often misunderstood by non-believers. nobody can doubt the typhon, nobody will pray to them, no religion will rise up Agaisnt them, No Typhon will be bored by god-hood to the point of self destruction, and no useless, purposeless one armed/two armed/ three armed wench can enter his real through its own power given to it by a tortured betrayer god. but in Lou of all that, it's power is still to be misused by man against it, misunderstood as evil itself, and worst of all there is still a antagonist devil to this god. Morgan Yu, The Mortal Outsider. with all the power of the Void given to him to make a choice just like that dishonored guard in his prison cell, who knows what this story brings this time. especially with no guiding hand of a neutral god, simply the lies of man and brutality of Typhon and unholy union that calls itself Morgan Yu enacting the will of both.) the idea it starts with Morgan and ends with the outsider? sorry but both magic And science is more primitive than technology and forced hyper evolution. the implication of any connected universe would be that this is a continuation of those concepts, not the precursor to them. + death of the outsider implies a new age, most likely technological space age type stuff saying how advanced even dishonored alone is (compared to us at a similar point in history, whale oil fishing, they are far more advanced) whereas the invasion of earth moreso implies an end of the world situation. which I think would lead to a story more akin to Metro 2033 but more advanced like all Arkane games. especially saying redfall and other games seem to be an advanced dishonored universe it appears they exponentially increase their technological capabilities which would ofc justify Preys eventual utopia like super society. with recyclers and fabricators and recycler grenades and stun guns etc etc. plus i think you'd see the remnants of Old Earth in dishonored if Prey came first. nuclear waste that wouldn't dissipate, battlefields of a great war we lost. ruined cities in rubble and satellites crashing from space after losing power. + why would Mimics and Typhon go into hiding? unless you're positing they either turned into humans or evolved to parasitize humans which both have precedent with the "they can by anything, *anyone*" line and the "they want to live *inside* us, like a *disease*" lines respectively. but idk I guess I just wouldn't care then. that lessens both stories. humans are actually just infected in dishonored causing magical powers and hallucinations of the Typhon hive mind (void and outsider) and in prey the end of it isn't even scary like whoooh please infect everyone so we can become a super society as its clear humans maintain control and only stand to gain from magical powers and strength. and like what would killing the outsider even mean? is he super infected or something and we cured him making him human and healthy (albeit far weaker) like idk it just sorta all falls apart and you trip over story points when you start walking backwards. it's a forward story and i feel like death of the outside was made explicitly as a send off to that universe and a start to a new one or yk new age, same verse. aka PREY. and like i said we KNOW the Void still exist and that the Typhon move to a parallel dimension (just like corvo does when blinking or his daughter when shadow walking) when they use Mimic which is why the objects jitter about cause it's attached to the mimic in the other dimension so when he moves, it moves. what parallel dimension do we know of that exists overlapping the real world to where you can interact with real world objects in and if you suddenly got transported (like while sleeping) you would remain in the same location but a new universe? ohhh yeah huh, the void. they literally travel to the shattered void realm to grab a duplicate object and do a Sauske Rinnesharigan teleport. taking it's place in the Void realm and the object taking his place in the real world. but they stay connected so the mimic doesn't get lost in the void. not to mention it's just a good hunting tactic and it must be far harder to swap places with a real object. opposed to switching dimensional locations with a already anomalous object. aka, it's easier to pull something out of the Void than it is to push something into it. same way it's easier to draw an idea in your head than it is to make a random drawing into an idea. ones fictional and made with a purpose of imitation, the other simply randomly came to be and now just had a image you can technically imitate. aka to the aka lmao, it's easier to pretend to be a fake rip off than it is to manipulate a real thing to look like you (as that's what would happen in the physical realm if they appeared from a real object, instead of setting up and hiding as a fake object to reappear later) and i think that whole explanation works despite being overly complex because...why would they not swap places with pre-existing objects instead of pulling a duplicate from the Void only to swap places/dimensions with that later when it's ready to attack? only 2 logical reasons. 1. they can't FIND our reality or nearby objects to turn into for a ambush unless they have a "anchor" they swap with. 2(kinda). they probably can't leave a void object/"anchor" in the real world or else they could just use that "anchor" to stay generally close to a hunting area while still being able to appear from any nearby object. so if they pull something from the void they HAVE to put it back to be able to return. 3. it's simply too difficult, but if they lost the "anchor" restriction they would literally just be "void sharks" hunting through the Void appearing from any real nearby object as they use that as a reverse anchor, turning real mimics into lifeless objects if you don't kill them beforehand. so yeah dishonored and then Prey, with most the typhon utilizing a mindless force of nature "the void" as part of their hunting strategy. literally 0% different from demogorgons with the upside down, except for the fact typhon mimics achieve the same goal in a far more flawed way. more like void spiders opposed to the interdimensional sharks the demagorgon are described as.
you're right, and while it may "debunkable" the concept of the two universes existing as one is nothing new to arkane - or at least the easter eggs aren't
Well, since the Typhon are interdimensional beings, there's a chance they might be present both in the Prey and Dishonored universe - they seem like the sort of lovecraftian monstrosity you'd expect to find in the void; perhaps both games take place in parallel dimensions that occasionally bleed into one another, explaining certain similarities. Of course there really isn't anything in either game to suggest such besides the occasional easter egg, but at least that's a thought that I had playing them.
Just like how Soulsborne is.
The sword you get in death of the outsider , also makes the same mimic noise when you pull it out
The shadow walk form in dishonored 2 is very similar looking to the typhon more specifically the phantom
I have this head canon that the typhon are from the void but they're not creations of the outsider, instead they are a lifeform of their that evolved within the void dimension, where the void energies aren't considered "Magic" but instead the typhon evolved to where the void energies became a part of their physiology which would explain their ability to shape shift their forms into almost anything while also helping to explain how its even possible for them to do so and their seemingly "alien" perception of other lifeforms is because of originating in the void dimension where time and space aren't the same as our own.
Sooo are we just gonna igmore the fact tht in Dishonored they use whales as a resource and all throughout Talos 1 you can find tanks of eels tht have obviously been harvested for power and/or their resources. Therefore confirming both civilizations AT LEAST share the same outlook in terms of where to harvest their energy. Idk just a thought
Interesting, I never noticed that before
Hmm interesting take to be fair indeed!
But now comes to my mind -
Years ago, when the first Dishonored was out, I stumbled upon a game theory telling a different story of what the world of Dishonored actually could have been - namingly OUR very very distant past.
The theory was mainly based on the journey reports of Sokolov and other scientists and explorers who went to explore the Pandyssian Continent - which, from the ingame books, was mostly described the way we could picture the original continent of Pangea - which existed in a time long before humans would walk the earth. (Even maps of the pandyssian continent from the game look pretty much like rendered maps of Pangeas assumed shape)
It was theorizing that the empire of the isles was one of the first advanced human civilizations, long long before our world got the face we know today, long before humanity went the ways we know about.
Since I heard about that theory, for some reason I found it so credible to just take it as canon for myself, I just absolutely love the idea...
So technically - Dishonored could also be the pre-story for Prey - millions of years after the events of Dishonored, and after the world had changed and humanity had gone new ways, everyone had forgotten about the dark realm that had once bothered the people of our very earth so much - but then it returned in a new shape, and Prey could be the starting point of what was always hinted at in Dishonored - the void taking clearer shape (in form of the Typhon), leaking into our world and finally, eventually devouring it.
Zooeey mama, thats a cool thought, Honestly, anything that could connect the two universes would be awesome.
@@DaftTake Maybe we get more hints to ideas like that in the future!
Ok so after looking at this and thinking about it what if all their games are connected.
Dishonored is millions of years ago something cataclysmic happened and people went underground welcome to Arx Fatalis, the end of which shows there is some life on the surface, thousands of years go by to Prey and maybe death loops is in there somewhere as well, it's Arkane's connected universe ACU lol probably not though but it's always fun to speculate 🧐😂
@@slyaspie4934 Definetly a big fan of that idea!
I bet Deathloop is apart of this universe as well. Why wouldn't it be?
Maybe the time loop is powered by the harnessing void energy. That would be pretty cool
There is something in deathloop that confirms this
Deathloop has oil powered dueling pistols from dishonored in the end, and apparently The Motherland is a country in the dishonored universe.
arkane officially confirmed this
@@Mae_Dastardly the motherland is what remains of the isle of tivia i think
Another thing is that the music the Overseers play on the music boxes are apparently derived from some sort of mathematics, and it renders your void powers inert. I don't know the exact connection, but it's a curious thought.
These theories are legendary. The only question I have is that if Dishonored is Prey in the future after humans had to restart again. How would you explain bthe Empire of the Isles and the Pandyssian Continent. As it is heavily implied that the world of Dishonored doesn't take place on Earth, but rather on its own planet.
The universe probably is eaten by the void and reset. Prey even has JFK in it.
I just beat pray and it's Dlc 100%, I'm playing through Dishonored 1 and it's Dlcs right now and once I beat Dishonored 2 and it's Dlc I'll be back to watch this video.
Old video but on a recent playthrough I noticed that when the Apex Typhon appears, it looks as if it is not covering the ship with itself but pulling the ship into the void. Ut looks a lot more like dishonored 2’s void than 1’s
well in death of the outsider it hints everything towards Prey and how Morgan yu & the YU family is involved in everything or he's a Time traveler etc etc it also implicates when Alex yu tells you the orange red skies are all over the city are the exact same from death loop its insane how the game interconnects
I mean, while we're listing similarities between series. The Isles and Pandyssia make a world map not dissimilar to Nirn. In both Dishonored and the Elder Scrolls, magic is derived from a plane beyond the mortal realm. Once again playing with the idea of time, could Dishonored take place in a different kalpa cycle from the Elder Scrolls games? "Due to the age resetting at a new Dawn Era, the creation of Mundus can emerge in different ways each kalpa, with different et'Ada playing different roles." -Excerpt from the Elder Scrolls Wiki on kalpas.
HOW DO YOU HAVE ONLY 2K SUBS?!
You are the best lore yt i have ever seen
Your voice is so cool
Also both universes and ours
Have the same moon.
0:25 Why does Wrenhaven River fit so well with Talos 1 background?
Because my conspiracy theory is right!
I was thinking that the reason Prey is so high tech, is because it was already advanced. This is because Dunwall is already very advanced for its time, so it would make sense that because dishonored already had a tech head start, its future would be even more advanced.
That into wasn’t mind blowing, but i could tell you spent a lot of time on it. Good work
yeah, the render messed up some effects, but thanks for noticing, I've definetely made improvements in that department
Daft Take
Also I didn’t mean that in a derogatory way.
Mine blowing for me is like the high end of what Ahoy makes. This is was still impressive! You did well!
is it 100% confirmed its normal earth in prey? if not. I would just assume Dishonored is before prey. explaining why the pistols and rifles simply look like flintlock versions of what you have in prey. and why prey has a odd sort of science as its history had changed. alternatively, perhaps the death of the outsider lead to the birth of a "normal" civilization. as each outsider (or lack of one) leads to a new age. Pandesia becoming Russia and the Isles becoming continents. (consider how different our world is now compared to the old one in real life, you would assume two separate histories must have happened especially considering the gods and myths and false islands and creatures many old countries believed in thinking the world/known areas was surrounded by monsters, then mud, then ice. and not much more after that just a endless expanse of ice. is that how the world is? not even close. Rome used to control all of Europe and it all used to just be called rome (I may totally be wrong but for whatever they took over in mass) and now it's known by 100 different names and groups of people unrelated to rome. not to mention all of dishonored could have happened alongside a normal history if it was in America or a fictional land that like america, wasn't discovered by the rest of the world until recently. which would then mean history (especially after the death of the outsider, warping reality and society as we knew it into a new, previously unseen one) could correct itself as hard as possible. space-time disruptions would back up my theory as reality is often described as easily wrapped but stubbornly elastic. aka "easily broken but instantly fixed when the anomaly is removed from that local space time" like how the effects of gravity from a large planet or black hole would instantly dissipate if that black hole or planet disappeared. it has little to no lingering effect, reality would have fell apart if not, due to gravity waves given off by super massive black holes. so by that same logic, remove the outsider and his "local gravity" of magic would also instantly disappear as reality would attempt to course correct to its normal. law of physics abiding state it usually is in. well why magic? why a separate history? why Typhon and laws of physics that don't exist here? simple. The outsider died, but the Void remains. all the Typhon do are connect to the Void with the Brood Mother (or whatever you wanna call the super large Typhon you see at the end) most likely taking on the position of overseer. accidentally evolving to a state of godhood because as much as reality tries to hold things together and warps reality to make it so, the Void does the same to preserve weirdness and in that way, not letting reality erase it away into the realm of fiction where it's too weak and disconnected from our world to manipulate its return to power. it got lucky enough to manifest monsters of a different, more scientific void, one not so easily dismissed as magic (as the Void has always had science behind it to justify its existence, but that arrogance also led to it having magical vulnerabilities such as harmony/music and magical artifacts. not to mention belief and faith which despite rarely ever working it undoubtedly empowered the Void by something that is honestly far more flimsy than fear, faith and hope, things that were easily lost and more often misunderstood by non-believers. nobody can doubt the typhon, nobody will pray to them, no religion will rise up Agaisnt them, No Typhon will be bored by god-hood to the point of self destruction, and no useless, purposeless one armed/two armed/ three armed wench can enter his real through its own power given to it by a tortured betrayer god. but in Lou of all that, it's power is still to be misused by man against it, misunderstood as evil itself, and worst of all there is still a antagonist devil to this god. Morgan Yu, The Mortal Outsider. with all the power of the Void given to him to make a choice just like that dishonored guard in his prison cell, who knows what this story brings this time. especially with no guiding hand of a neutral god, simply the lies of man and brutality of Typhon and unholy union that calls itself Morgan Yu enacting the will of both.) the idea it starts with Morgan and ends with the outsider? sorry but both magic And science is more primitive than technology and forced hyper evolution. the implication of any connected universe would be that this is a continuation of those concepts, not the precursor to them. + death of the outsider implies a new age, most likely technological space age type stuff saying how advanced even dishonored alone is (compared to us at a similar point in history, whale oil fishing, they are far more advanced) whereas the invasion of earth moreso implies an end of the world situation. which I think would lead to a story more akin to Metro 2033 but more advanced like all Arkane games. especially saying redfall and other games seem to be an advanced dishonored universe it appears they exponentially increase their technological capabilities which would ofc justify Preys eventual utopia like super society. with recyclers and fabricators and recycler grenades and stun guns etc etc. plus i think you'd see the remnants of Old Earth in dishonored if Prey came first. nuclear waste that wouldn't dissipate, battlefields of a great war we lost. ruined cities in rubble and satellites crashing from space after losing power. + why would Mimics and Typhon go into hiding? unless you're positing they either turned into humans or evolved to parasitize humans which both have precedent with the "they can by anything, *anyone*" line and the "they want to live *inside* us, like a *disease*" lines respectively. but idk I guess I just wouldn't care then. that lessens both stories. humans are actually just infected in dishonored causing magical powers and hallucinations of the Typhon hive mind (void and outsider) and in prey the end of it isn't even scary like whoooh please infect everyone so we can become a super society as its clear humans maintain control and only stand to gain from magical powers and strength. and like what would killing the outsider even mean? is he super infected or something and we cured him making him human and healthy (albeit far weaker) like idk it just sorta all falls apart and you trip over story points when you start walking backwards. it's a forward story and i feel like death of the outside was made explicitly as a send off to that universe and a start to a new one or yk new age, same verse. aka PREY. and like i said we KNOW the Void still exist and that the Typhon move to a parallel dimension (just like corvo does when blinking or his daughter when shadow walking) when they use Mimic which is why the objects jitter about cause it's attached to the mimic in the other dimension so when he moves, it moves. what parallel dimension do we know of that exists overlapping the real world to where you can interact with real world objects in and if you suddenly got transported (like while sleeping) you would remain in the same location but a new universe? ohhh yeah huh, the void. they literally travel to the shattered void realm to grab a duplicate object and do a Sauske Rinnesharigan teleport. taking it's place in the Void realm and the object taking his place in the real world. but they stay connected so the mimic doesn't get lost in the void. not to mention it's just a good hunting tactic and it must be far harder to swap places with a real object. opposed to switching dimensional locations with a already anomalous object. aka, it's easier to pull something out of the Void than it is to push something into it. same way it's easier to draw an idea in your head than it is to make a random drawing into an idea. ones fictional and made with a purpose of imitation, the other simply randomly came to be and now just had a image you can technically imitate. aka to the aka lmao, it's easier to pretend to be a fake rip off than it is to manipulate a real thing to look like you (as that's what would happen in the physical realm if they appeared from a real object, instead of setting up and hiding as a fake object to reappear later) and i think that whole explanation works despite being overly complex because...why would they not swap places with pre-existing objects instead of pulling a duplicate from the Void only to swap places/dimensions with that later when it's ready to attack? only 2 logical reasons.
1. they can't FIND our reality or nearby objects to turn into for a ambush unless they have a "anchor" they swap with.
2(kinda). they probably can't leave a void object/"anchor" in the real world or else they could just use that "anchor" to stay generally close to a hunting area while still being able to appear from any nearby object. so if they pull something from the void they HAVE to put it back to be able to return.
3. it's simply too difficult, but if they lost the "anchor" restriction they would literally just be "void sharks" hunting through the Void appearing from any real nearby object as they use that as a reverse anchor, turning real mimics into lifeless objects if you don't kill them beforehand.
so yeah dishonored and then Prey, with most the typhon utilizing a mindless force of nature "the void" as part of their hunting strategy. literally 0% different from demogorgons with the upside down, except for the fact typhon mimics achieve the same goal in a far more flawed way. more like void spiders opposed to the interdimensional sharks the demagorgon are described as.
easily warped* and, "Brood Mother...take on the position of outsider*" not overseer
Darkness prey an dishonored same universe
Nice
No, just no. There's alot debunking this.
you're right, and while it may "debunkable" the concept of the two universes existing as one is nothing new to arkane - or at least the easter eggs aren't
@@DaftTake with our new info, it’s seems like Dishonored and death loop are one, and prey and redline are another one
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