35 Whelen: America's dangerous game cartridge

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2022
  • In this video I go over the forgotten dangerous game cartridge. I talk about the history and performance of the 35 Whelen. Hope you enjoy the video!
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  • @jw-sigp2258
    @jw-sigp2258 Рік тому +25

    I love 35 Whelen. I wish more ppl appreciated it.

    • @joshchapo
      @joshchapo Рік тому +3

      I have a Remington semi-auto 35 whelen and I love it!
      Hard to find ammo but it’s a great shooting gun

  • @russellkeeling4387
    @russellkeeling4387 8 місяців тому +9

    Necking the 30 caliber to 35 caliber not only worked well for the .35 Whelen but it also worked very well for the .358 Winchester.

  • @billdorell8351
    @billdorell8351 9 місяців тому +7

    Such a great cartridge, still surprised more dont flock to it. Dont forget the Rem 7600 in 35 Whelen! Particularly the 24" barrel models. Now that Buffalo Bore loads ammo for it those who dont reload can get the whelens real potential. Their 225 grain load cronos mid 2900s out of my CVA.

  • @russellkeeling4387
    @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому +6

    I bought a CVA Scout in .35 Whelen. I had to send the rifle back because the headspace was excessive from the factory. I then bought a Lipsey's Ruger #1 in 35 Whelen. I use a 225 grain Sierra bullet not loaded to maximum and have an average velocity of 2816 fps. As he says in this video it is the most efficient cartridge I've ever loaded.

  • @theGimpfantry
    @theGimpfantry 10 місяців тому +6

    K98 rebarreled to 35 Whelen, using 250 & 275 grain bullets. Absolutely devastating on elk.

    • @ericschulze5641
      @ericschulze5641 Місяць тому

      Did you have to modify the action/ put a half circle cut out like Peruvian mausers converted to 30-06 ?

  • @erictiry6483
    @erictiry6483 Рік тому +4

    Now you are talking my language. I had one in a Rem 700. I got it when I was 15 and it was my goto rifle until I was 25. I still have it don't hardly use it. Another cartridge that has become obsolete where I live is the 358 Winchester. Another great round in my opinion. The 35 Whelen was considered the poor mans magnum. Great video.

  • @jerad4336
    @jerad4336 11 місяців тому +3

    I wish it was more popular.

  • @cw2a
    @cw2a Рік тому +8

    I built my Whelen on a 1909 Argentine "1898 Mauser" action. Using a Shillen Barrel and Bell & Carlson stock. I strongly considered the Brown Whelen case. Its an improved version with blown out taper sharper shoulder Thats also moved forward. It offers almost 200 fps improvement in velocities in all but heaviest bullets. BUT dies was VERY COSTLY. So std Whelen it was. But to boost velocity a bit I opted for a 26.5" barrel.
    With Timney trigger, smith work and stock the bedding and bluing. My last pmt was nearly 750$. This was 1987. A very short time from Remingtons Classic that was released in 35 Whelen... It was about 600$.
    Im happy I built it how I wanted and its a awesome rifle. Its allowed me near 3000 fps with a 200g Hornady bullet. I never needed 250's but later settled on 225 as my perfect weight. Using the Sierra 225 that was made for the Whelen as my choice. It proved a little soft for my taste and I switched to the 225 Partition then the Accubond when Nosler released that. What a Bullet!!!! These expand yet hold together even at top velocities my rl15 loads move them too!!!
    I have started some cast bullets tests and decided upon the Accurate 36-270c as my choice. I have previously loved the Lyman 35809 but its not friendly with my Powder coat. But this 270 has been shooting touching clusters with 3031 powder at 1900+ fps. I have pushed it past 2100 but accuracy was best under 40g of powder.
    I have videos on my Rumble account testing 310 & 270g bullets.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому +1

      Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому +1

      I recommend you try a Sierra Game King bullet in 225 grain. They are a nicely shaped boat tail bullet I have very good luck with. I push it with IMR 4064 powder. Average of 2816 fps which equates to just under 4000 pounds of energy.

    • @cw2a
      @cw2a Рік тому +1

      @@russellkeeling4387 Morning Russel, My own experience is the 225g Sierra is a bit fragile at those velocities but is dynamite < 2600 fps. In real actual use on game. I love the bullet in my 358's with impact velocities 23-2500 fps.

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому +1

      @@cw2a I've only harvested two elk with my 225 grain bullets and I don't know how fragile they were because they were not left in the animals. Both elk fell dead without another step and the bullet went on it's merry way. I do try to avoid hitting heavy bone though.

  • @HillDogTV
    @HillDogTV Рік тому +3

    a good performer for Big Sambar deer down in Australia- Ruger shooter here.

  • @sakostwwy1903
    @sakostwwy1903 Рік тому +4

    I have heard more about this cartridge in the past year than ever. Didn’t really know why until now. Pretty impressive.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому +2

      It's a cool one

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 8 місяців тому +1

      I started reloading my own ammo when I was about 14 and that's been about 55 years ago. I had never heard of the .35 Whelen until maybe 15 years ago. When I finally got my hands on one and started loading for it I got rid of all three magnum rifles I had. I no longer needed them or wanted them.

  • @cw2a
    @cw2a Рік тому +6

    NOW YOUR TALKING MY LANGUAGE!! 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤘🏼🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽

  • @NELLY-jg2rx
    @NELLY-jg2rx Рік тому +2

    Just finished my 35 Whelen build, can't wait to start reloading it!

  • @joshuamccasland8180
    @joshuamccasland8180 5 місяців тому +1

    It’s on my list, I’m waiting to find one in a vintage rifle from yesteryear during my gun store travels. You can definitely say it hits with some authority.

  • @user-eg8hb8xt3j
    @user-eg8hb8xt3j 9 місяців тому +2

    I had one build two years ago on a rem 700 action . Wilson stainless barrel , McMillan stock and a trigger teck trigger . I run the 225 grain accubonds at 2750 . I’ve taken a 6 point bull elk and two white tails . This thing knocks the absolute snot out of anything it hits . It’s my do it all cartridge /rifle . Everything else stays in the safe these days . I hunt in grizzly infested country so it’s nice to have the power .

  • @gerry6.8
    @gerry6.8 Рік тому +5

    Have had one since about 1990 I believe and it hasn't disappointed. Last animal I have taken with it was a moose at a bit over 300 yards using 225 gr Accubond's in Sept 2020. That load is right around 2700 but in my old rifle the same bullet with a different powder got pretty close to 2800 fps with a 22" barrel. In this gun I also shoot 200 gr Accubond's and TTSX to 2850 fps with IMR 8208 and Nosler's mid range load listed. You can also get 250's to 2600 fps with several powders, along with the Nosler data you shared check out Speer's loads if you haven't yet. So yes it can get the kind of performance safely or at least very close like you found in your research. I really like the 200's I mentioned for black bears and mid sized game and the tougher 225's are excellent for big animals like moose. The 225 gr Sierra is a great bullet for medium game too. Thanks for the video!

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому +1

      I shoot Sierra GameKing bullets from my .35. I know it may sound weird but it is the most attractive bullet I have ever loaded in a cartridge and very powerful. Imagine those fellows in the south that still have an old Remington 7600 in .35 Whelen. Lots of firepower there.

    • @Red-vn4xq
      @Red-vn4xq 4 місяці тому

      Oh yeah

  • @davewinter2688
    @davewinter2688 5 днів тому

    35 Whelen will handle 310 grain bullets at velocities equal to or greater than 9.3x62. Woodleigh provides serious loading data for their 310 and 275 grain bullets. Double Tap loads the 310 grain Woodleigh Weldcore at 2300 fps out of a 24” barreled Remington 700. Buffalo Bore loads some serious Whelen loads too including Barnes 225 grain TSX bullet in addition to other bullets. “Back in the day” Elmer Keith pushed the old Western Tool and Copper 275 grain bullet to pressures and velocities that would be questioned today. He killed lots elk and grizzly with that load. Maximum SAAMI MAP for 35 Whelen is 62,000 psi, same as 375 H&H vs 60,000 for 30-06. Just for comparison SAAMI MAP for 9.3x62 is 57,500. That will give you some idea why the 35 Whelen is able to perform like it does. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊

  • @michaelrider3292
    @michaelrider3292 4 дні тому

    Excellent video 👍

  • @TheBushmanFamily
    @TheBushmanFamily Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @anonymousf454
    @anonymousf454 Рік тому +1

    Always wanted to hear about and compare 375 Whelen, 400 Whelen, 9.3x62 and Wildcats, and 9.3x64 Brenneke.

  • @texpatriot8462
    @texpatriot8462 Рік тому +1

    Great Video!

  • @brandonbowerstx
    @brandonbowerstx Рік тому +2

    Built my 35 Whelen on a Garand. 8 shots of 200gr or less or 7 shots of 250gr - 310gr rounds is more than enough firepower for any animal I expect to ever run across. Grade A Boom Boom.

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому +1

      That rifle contains a lot of energy.

    • @brandonbowerstx
      @brandonbowerstx Рік тому

      @@russellkeeling4387 : Just the thing for pack hunting grizzlies. Because they just might get smart one day.

    • @johngeddes7894
      @johngeddes7894 8 місяців тому

      Brandon - any relation to Bruce Bowers; also from Texas? A phenom of a fiddler but cancer took him age 69. What a loss.

    • @brandonbowerstx
      @brandonbowerstx 8 місяців тому

      @johngeddes7894 : Negative Ghost Rider but glad the guy had a good life. Cheers mate.

  • @travissmith-wz5nc
    @travissmith-wz5nc Рік тому +1

    Thank u. I am building a 35 Whelen as we speak. Thinking of using 200gr hammer bullets. Curious on powder choices but its all fun

  • @blackie1of4
    @blackie1of4 9 місяців тому

    I love the 35 calibers ❤️
    Although I don't have first hand experience with the 35 Whelen.. I have used the 350 Remington Magnum!
    I also use the 358 Winchester the 350 Legend and the 357 Magnum.
    I'd love to try the 35 Whelen one of these days! That and the 35 Remington!
    I definitely have noticed that the 35's are catching on these days! With the primitive weapons season ( single shot 35 Whelen ) .. straight wall restricted areas.. 350 Legend and the new 360 Buckhammer!
    Folks are trying them out and falling in love 💕
    That helps ALL the 35's

    • @chrisbrewer4285
      @chrisbrewer4285 8 місяців тому +1

      358 Norma Heavy Weight Hammer can be loaded from 338 all the way up to 375 and everything in between my favorite of the 35 caliber, love them all though.

  • @davidking6663
    @davidking6663 Рік тому +2

    In Louisiana and Mississippi we use the 35 whelen for primitive deer season. Has to be a single shot.

  • @robertdunbar5854
    @robertdunbar5854 9 місяців тому +1

    I know this is a year old , just came on it. I'll tell you one thing about the 35 Whelen , Hornady Superfomance 200 gr loads out of a Thompson Center Encore 28 " bbl kicks like a mule and hits like a truck. Very awesome caliber.

  • @davemeise2192
    @davemeise2192 9 місяців тому

    I have a late 50's or early 60's 30-06 Parker and Hale I inherited from my dad. It likes heavier weight bullets and shoots 190 gr hornady bullets extremely well. However, I have been thinking of converting it to 35 Whelen. I like heavier weight bullets and the Whelen seems to fit the bill. Maybe this winter or next summer....

  • @rdaugherty52
    @rdaugherty52 9 місяців тому

    I have 2 35 Whelens one a Ruger Hawkeye 2015 edition of which only 150 were made a absolutely beautiful rifle the other is a CVA stalker with a heavy barrel it weighed a little over 7 lbs when I got it but I added wheel weights in the stock and bought it up to 9 lbs it will put my reloaded rounds through the same hole at 100 yds a devastating hunting rifle I love the 35 Whelen.

  • @MrJtin69
    @MrJtin69 Рік тому +2

    Damn straight a poor mans magnum but when reloaded this sob can turn up alot

  • @leveractiongypsy1848
    @leveractiongypsy1848 Рік тому +1

    The way you get a 35 Whelen is very easy - but a nice used but blown out barrel 30-06 and get it rebored to 358. Basically a brand new rifled 35 whelen on an old stock. I did a Remington 760 to 35 Whelen. Its my most accurate rifle :)

    • @Red-vn4xq
      @Red-vn4xq 4 місяці тому +1

      Now your cooking with grease!

  • @johnkaraphillis754
    @johnkaraphillis754 Рік тому +1

    Very surprised at the ballistics (in a good way). What app are you using to show ballistics? Thanks. How’s your loads coming on the 7-08?

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому

      I use this website shooterscalculator.com/bullet-kinetic-energy.php
      Sadly I no longer have the 7mm-08. I was borrowing it for content.

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому

      A good way to get true ballistics is to use your chronograph and get them yourself. An app can't consider atmospheric and other variables. 35 Whelen data varies in every loading manual I own so developing a good load can be time consuming. Nosler Reloading Manual 8 has a maximun load that I go by. I do not load to that maximum but it is my maximum. With a load that is 1.5 grains below that maximum I achieve a muzzle velocity greater than that stated in the Nosler manual.

  • @jamiehurtt3530
    @jamiehurtt3530 4 місяці тому +1

    250 grain speer hot core are a great bullet at whelen level velocities

  • @finallyfriday.
    @finallyfriday. 4 місяці тому

    25-06, 35-06 (Whelen) and 338-06
    What a combo!!

  • @keithsargent6963
    @keithsargent6963 11 місяців тому

    I’ve had one for 35 years, built on a 1903 Springfield action.

    • @finallyfriday.
      @finallyfriday. 4 місяці тому

      Hey, that's my gun! Such a beauty.

  • @johnbackman4475
    @johnbackman4475 13 днів тому

    I have a Nosler Outfitter in .35 Whelen. A tack driver

  • @tripplebeards3427
    @tripplebeards3427 9 місяців тому

    I have a limited run Remington 7600 carbine in 35 whelen. It kicks like a mule!

  • @joelpalsson7711
    @joelpalsson7711 Рік тому +1

    35 Whelen is very similar the European cartridge 9,3x62

  • @goranmalnar5172
    @goranmalnar5172 Рік тому +1

    In terms of energy this is almoust the same performanse of 300 win or 338 win mag with the same weight bullet?? Any way very good cartridge. I like to have one rifle in this caliber. 👍

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
    @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 Рік тому +2

    Great video but you didn't mention that Buffalo Bore makes a 225 gr load they claim hits 2900+ fps.

  • @matthewvassoff5736
    @matthewvassoff5736 Місяць тому

    The reason it isnt as popular is it wasnt the brain child of Rem, Win, or any of the Giants.

  • @user-tb9rw7dh2t
    @user-tb9rw7dh2t 4 місяці тому

    👍

  • @theowenssailingdiary5239
    @theowenssailingdiary5239 2 місяці тому

    Id be interested in lighter copper bullets in this cartridge. Less recoil and they'd be humming, as they need to be.

    • @davewinter2688
      @davewinter2688 5 днів тому

      Buffalo Bore lists the Barnes 225 grain TSX at 2654 fps out of a 24” barreled Remington model 700 in their 35 Whelen line.

  • @renomac1635
    @renomac1635 Рік тому +1

    They have always intrigued me but all that data is out of a 26 inch barrell so unless you go custom you won't be getting none of those numbers

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому

      I generally surpass velocities with my handloads over listed velocities from a 24 inch barrel on a Ruger #1.

  • @user-eg8hb8xt3j
    @user-eg8hb8xt3j 2 місяці тому

    You need a 35 whelen

  • @hnangell
    @hnangell Рік тому +1

    Yes, a Great Cartridge but, the 9.3x62 is even greater and available all over the world with a much better bullet selection. It too fits all rifles built for the .30-'06 cartridge length - just re-barrel or bore out a shot out .30-'06 or similar rifle (.25-'06, .270 Win, etc).

    • @robertagusti3712
      @robertagusti3712 Рік тому

      whatch Desert dog channel on the 35 whelen.

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому

      Sorry but I can't agree that the 9.3x62 is a greater cartridge than the .35 Whelen. 9.3x62 is a very good round and widely known in Europe and Africa but it is not a superior cartridge to the .35 Whelen.

    • @hnangell
      @hnangell Рік тому

      @@russellkeeling4387 Well, with respect, you are wrong.
      The 9.3x62 (9.3 Mauser) first became available in rifles and ammunition in 1905, the .35 Remington - Whelen in 1988. The case capacity of the 9.3x62 is greater and the bullet (available in many more shapes and weights) from 180 gn to 320gn. I teach ballistics at 'the' P H School in South Africa and hunt there 6 months of each year. My best long range load for the 9.3x62 is a 250gn at 2600-2650 ft/sec (See Swift Reloading Manual 2 with RL 17 - 2,680 ft/sec max). What is the highest published velocity for the .35 Whelen with a 250gn bullet?
      I can legally and safely use the 9.3x62 in many African countries on the' big five'. The .35 Whelen cannot be used anywhere in Africa for larger game than the plains game range of animals. I recently visited a gun store in Humansdorp, South Africa and they had ten sets of 9,3x62 reloading dies. NONE for .35 Whelen. I have never seen .35 Whelen in loaded ammo in south Africa but plenty of .358 Win! Only Remington makes .35 Whelen ammunition (225 gn only) and brass. Four USA companies make 9.3x62 brass and more reload it here in the USA. Many more European countries also manufacture the 9,3x62. The Winchester Model 70 is available in Europe in 9.3x62, never the .35 Whelen! In 20 years the .35 Whelen will be gone, the 9.3x62 still thriving.
      I do love the .35 Whelen, and have helped Col Whelen's grandson (Townsend Whelen Boling) collect some of the colonels more obscure writings. The .35 Whelen is a good choice for Elk, Bison, and bears smaller then Polar or Kodiak but is in not a dangerous game cartridge.

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому

      @@hnangell You are wrong. The case capacity of the 9.3 is greater than the .35 by one tenth of a grain with a 250 grain bullet but muzzle velocity of the .35 is greater than the 9.3. I don't have anything against the 9.3 but it is not a superior cartridge than the .35 Whelen.

    • @hnangell
      @hnangell Рік тому

      @@russellkeeling4387 You can lead a horse to water......

  • @mopardoctor9966
    @mopardoctor9966 Рік тому +4

    If you want to BS someone tell them you shoot a 300 Whelen.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому +1

      Good idea for my next video! The forgotten 300 Whelen.

    • @mopardoctor9966
      @mopardoctor9966 Рік тому +3

      @@ReloadingWeatherby or 308 Whelen

    • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
      @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 Рік тому

      It would be the 30 Whelen.
      Or the Thirty/Whelen 🙃

    • @aaronwilcox6417
      @aaronwilcox6417 Рік тому

      What many overlook is 35cal in rifles us where cast bullets have enough diameter, weight, mass, to become viable and nearly on par with jacketed bullets. An heavy cast 35cal bullet is no joke.

    • @Grodd70
      @Grodd70 6 місяців тому

      :) Next 30.06 build, I think I'll have the barrel stamped 300 Whelen LOL

  • @jk-kr8jt
    @jk-kr8jt Рік тому

    Another fine cartridge that Remington legitimized and then allowed to die on the vine. Better than the 338-06. Seems like we American shooter just never warm up to the 35's. But again Remington to a bad job of pumping up a wildcat that they mainstreamed.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому

      Can't disagree with that.

    • @Grodd70
      @Grodd70 6 місяців тому

      It's really too bad, because both the .35 Whelen and the .358 Win are actually pretty heavy hitters without going the magnum route.

  • @jeremywill4272
    @jeremywill4272 9 місяців тому +1

    You shoot a deer with it. You won’t forget it. If they popularized it like the crudemore. There’ll be less tracking dogs I promise

  • @gerry343
    @gerry343 Рік тому

    If these cartridges were dangerous, why were they available to the public?

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому +3

      Is this a serious question?

    • @gerry343
      @gerry343 Рік тому

      @@ReloadingWeatherby I think it is serious having hazardous goods on the market.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Рік тому +5

      @@gerry343 So you're anti-gun? Well if you want to get rid of guns we need to get rid of cigarettes, vape, alcohol and vehicles. The world would be a much safer place without all of those.

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому

      The danger from these cartridges is when someone shoots at you with one otherwise they are no more dangerous than a ping pong game or a honey bee. Look up how many people die playing ping pong or from honey bee stings.

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 Рік тому

      @@gerry343 Don't leave your house ever again. It's a whole big dangerous world out there which is unsafe for you. I don't even know if you'll be safe from danger in your home. Many people die in homes. Gerry I'm sad for you.