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@@nadapenny8592 If the game wasn't a complete sci-fi unbalanced mess already, with submarines repesenting just another level of catastrophe, it would be funny... ^^
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I find it baffling when a ship, submarine etc is still described as ‘ unsinkable ‘. People who do that really don’t learn do they?? Disasters are bad enough as it is but for people to not learn anything from those disasters, like the Titanic etc is astonishing.
These ships aren’t names unsinkable by those who built them. For example the white star like never claimed the Titanic to be unsinkable, it was the press.
Only an idiot would even say something like this. The survival of any submarine is dependent on remaining undetected--there's no unsinkability about it, and neither its builders nor its operators were stupid enough to think the boat couldn't be sunk.
they weren't abandoned by their government. rather, they were unlucky that the authorities failed miserably in the rescue attempts by showing crass incompetence, arrogance, being too conceited and self-important. RIP seamen.
No matter what you build, you can never call it indestructible or unsinkable. Ocean, space or nature force can't ever be compared to us, beings who once thought that the Sun rotates around Earth, that we are so privileged or important. Whatever you create, be humble and let it be blessed, because your own pride could kill you.
I saw another documentary about this disaster many years ago and it was one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Those men, trapped and knowing they were going to die, writing farewell letters to their wives, sweethearts and families. It was heartbreaking. And they could have been saved....at least some of them.
T.I.R. ... This Is Russia :-( sadly in critical moments its people does not fail and show heroic efforts but the leadership and system in general is rotten :-(
"minor technical difficulties" Same line they used during Chernobyl and Operation Barbarosa. I have to give these Russians credit. They're an optimistic bunch! 😃
Shall I list the USA " minor technical difficulties? we have new $100 billion dollar ship that is useless it has so many' technical difficulties, the $1 trillion dollar f35 still has issues and spends lots of time grounded shall i go on?
@@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg That's my point, selling people an image (the best of this and that), and it's all smoke and mirrors...they call em spin doctors for a reason folks...pay attention billions wasted like it's nothing, oh yeah it's nothing to the 1%ers, it's the tax payer who will always foot the bill...always!!! 🙏🤔
I remember when this tragedy unfolded and it was horribly sad. The world felt so sorry that those men suffered the way they did, knowing what would happen.
I think those who died quickly, in the explosions, were luckier. The survivors had a worse fate. I´ve been researching this story and was lucky to find this video; it´s very detailed and well-researched.
@@jimj2683 In an enclosed space, the fire would have used up available oxygen rapidly. Unlike in the open air, this would not be replaced. So it´s more likely any survivors died of hypoxia. I hope so anyway.
six to eight torpedoes exploded in that front compartment of a sub designed with withstand a torpedo hit. There is NO chance that everyone in that general area wasn't killed instantly from the concussion alone. The hull was blown open, so they would have died from the explosive decompression if they somehow managed to survive the concussion of the torpedos exploding in their faces.
@@Finx5008 That´s true. The second explosion measured 4.2 on the Richter scale and was recorded as far away as Alaska. Salvage discovered only 115 sets of remains. There were 118 crew, so presumably the missing three were completely obliterated. At least it was a quicker death than that of the 23 survivors in compartment 9.
@@elisabird6245 at least with hypoxia you become unconscious before starving of oxygen, so you wouldn’t be aware of what’s happening (aviation nerd here, except hypoxia is generally mentioned in high altitude cases), which is a small mercy. I’d much rather go out unconscious and unaware than surviving and knowing what fate awaits me, which is heartbreaking to think about
Yes. It's truly "funny" to listen about a nuclear sub, torpedo hit resilient, being sunk with a *training* torpedo, fired by itself. That wouldn't even cross the minds of Monty Python Team.
What I'll always remember about that tragedy is the woman who was sedated as she was yelling at a government official, during a meeting between officials and relatives.
oh yeah, that reminds me. there was a man, who took part in this meeting, kind of a organizer, who said that putin called all these women "bunch of whores/sluts you hired for 10 bucks trying to discredit me". that's a devil we find ourselves dealing with nowadays
That automatic reactor shutdown which initiated with the first set of explosions shows how well engineered these things are. Even with this disaster, that mechanism still worked.
I saw a documentary on the retrieval of the kursk, and the engineering plus the risks the divers took was nothing short of heroic. And I'd like to add this is one of the best retelling of this avoidable event, full of verified facts and a voiceover that was clear and measured. For once someone had the confidence of not hiding their voice amid terrible electronic gimmicks which usually make the narrator sound idiotic and unsure of his subject, hope to hear more from you in future ventures, thank you.
A long time ago while talking to a Navy recruiter they brought up the subject of being a submarine sailor, my immediate answer was " Oh hell no! " or something like that. Years later I had the opportunity see the interior of a boomer. While being somewhat larger than I imagined I still could not see myself stuck in this steel tube under hundreds of feet of water for months at a time.
I remember when that happened. My dad was in Ukrainian navy and Kursk was talked about quite a lot in my house, and I remember how appalled everyone was at Putin's actions.
One of the most chilling things i've seen on tv was when a wife of a deceased sailor in a conference was complaining and shouting demanding and explanation of how she is going to support her children now, then the secret police comes tries to drag her out and injected her with a sedative in live tv
@@katiekane5247 Please don't pollute a serious issue with misinformation. Ketamine does not remotely reliably induce amnesia, is not generally discussed or used as though it does, and is used by emergency services for (usually) much more legitimate reasons. And I say this as someone whose friend was killed by unjustified and ludicrously excessively dosed ketamine injection due to "excited delirium" which was anxiety brought on by officer abuse, so don't get me wrong, I care very much about the issue of irresponsible sedative use by first responders and I wholly support your point that the USA is not above criticism here. But I had to say something, because we need to discuss these issues accurately and scientifically in order to represent them well for productive discourse.
@@ItsAsparageese I’m glad you pointed out how massive of a dose they had to have given your friend to OD them. It takes a ludicrously large amount of it to OD on it :( I’m sorry for your loss
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The surprising part for me was the sheer size of the Kursk. It sank in 350ft of water, and if stood on its end at that location, a full one third of the submarine would be sticking out of the water.
@@filanfyretracker Typhoon (Akula Class) is even bigger than Kursk. Much bigger. In fact, its underwater tonnage is similar to the battleship USS Iowa tonnage. And the top of its sail is so high above the keel that if it crashed to the seabed there, it would not be impossible to reach the surface just by swimming out of the escape hatches (that is, if anyone managed to get into the sail).
@@pavelslama5543 The Akula class had a draught of 39 feet, from waterline to top of sail was also 39 feet so depth of water above the sail was over 250 feet and you think someone could just swim out of the escape hatch from 250 feet below the surface?
Russia: the worst case scenario would be so bad, that even though its most likely what happened, we are gonna completely disregard it Russia: why everyone including ourselves hate us? Russia: *repeats the same stuff time and time again...
For a analogy of how badly this was handled, imagine if at the Challenger explosion in the US, the NASA Announcer just said “everything is fine, just normal fuel burn off or spent fuel tanks, then hours later reassured they spoke with the Astronauts, all well, then admitted “minor technical issue,” but only because Russia moved a satellite so the Challenger would hit it, which was later shown impossible, as had no satellites at that atmosphere, and …then let’s the astronauts who were still alive in the capsule drown, because there were no US ships to pick it up and they didn’t want a non-US ship to because of either embarrassment or security concerns. And then the US people said “meh,” and re-elected that same President for decades. That is how bizarre this was.
Dude, this is SPOT ON! Edit: I guess it's similar to GWB was re-elected after allowing the 9/11 terrorists to attack when the prior admin told them it was being planned by bin laden
Since you brought up shuttles, NASA chose not to install escape pods in Challenger and all shuttles due to cost and much criticism has been aimed at NASA over it. And the faulty O rings were known about and NASA was begged not to launch in such cold temps. Secondly, Columbia and the damage to the wing was known about and dismissed in much the same way as concerns over Russian torpedoes. Even afterwards, only the determination of an engineer did the truth come out about the damage tiles falling off shuttles could do and be so severe. NASA ground controllers did tell the crew they had seen it and not to worry. So plenty of similarities with both the US Govt and the Russian. Your current POTUS is a demented child groping fool installed by fraudulent mail in ballots, so please spare us the Russia bashing rubbish. Your ill considered remarks are not in fact as clever as you would like them to be.
@@stephenpenniket9976 Those were not fraudulent mail in ballots. In the voting districts I have lived in, in Michigan and Florida, mail in ballots are only counted if they have a chance to change the outcome of in-person ballots. Hence, they are counted only after the polls close. I personally know several election workers. They are the geekiest, most passionate, democracy supporting Americans I know. Please do not spread The Big Lie. It demeans us.
"We are concerned that foreign divers will want to obtain intelligence from our submarine." "Mate, I don't know if you've noticed, but the only intelligence we'll gain from your submarine is how not to build a submarine."
You are missing the point. The submarines did not explode on its own. It was a faulty torpedo. Taking a look at the submarine would have given the west a lot of information
@@kopamed5024 I think OP knows this, they were just making a joke. The question is, was the secrecy worth the lives of the crew? It's not as straightforward a question as some might think and it might trouble people to know that these kinds of decisions have to be made regularly by governments and militaries across the world. What I think is truly unforgiveable is the indecision and prevaricating by the Russian authorities only to arrive at a compromise much too late. They could have accepted the offers of help while forbidding foreign divers from entering the sub much, much earlier and probably saved some lives.
@@kopamed5024 But divers? Doing search and rescue? What were they going to do? Try and remember the importance of a bunch of fried boards and motionless gadgets, then relay exactly what information? The most vital part of the submarine was either blown to bits or sizzled by an internal fire. And these are divers, not individuals capable of relaying critical intelligence. That was simply paranoia.
Read, "Descent into Darkness". It is a first hand account of salvage operations at Pearl Harbor. Include body retrieval There is not enough alcohol in the world to help deal with what those divers had to do.
It’s a common occurrence. I think of the Korean ferry disaster that killed a bunch of students. It plays out exactly like this story. Government officials state nothings wrong, deny help form foreign countries, try to downplay until it’s too late and everyone is already dead.
My stepdad, a Kiwi, was in the Navy as a young man. He hated going down in the subs.......but they had to get used to every kind of vessel and trained on all of them. He was on the HMS Leander ship when they were torpedoed and lots of his mates were killed and the carnage was terrible. He wouldn't tell us anything beyond that, except how much he hated being in a sub.
My dad has claustrophobia and was on a sub for a while. After he managed to move to aircraft carriers, he always slept on deck. At least he was always ready if something went wrong with the landing lights!
@@npickle54 hmm... not sure how it was/is on your carrier, but in the 60s/70s, those lights needed a lot of maintenance, at least on my dad's ship. Or was he lying about something else?
I've had it in for Putin ever since he refused outside help in trying to save those poor men trapped on that sub. Had he asked for help, I would have figured that he gave trying to save them a good shot and well, things like this do happen after all. But he refused Western help. That told me that he doesn't care for the lives of anyone but himself. I saw what he's made of and what I saw is a man too concerned with "looking weak". A strong person knows when he needs a helping hand.
It is a shame. Clearly he does not care about his own people, even more so now since he's putting his country of unsuspecting people into a war on his own weak whims. Russia doesn't deserve that, and neither does Ukraine. They should all be living in stability.
remember that the only reason why he has a chance at beating ukraine is because is trowing a bigger number of men at the grinder like a game, the evil degenerate soviet mindset at work
Same. I used to take tours of the grounded U-boat at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry and just had it in my mind for many years that they were all that cramped.
This is one of the best telling of the Kursk tragedy I've seen to date. Even though it's in a shorter format than other documentaries about it, none of the important details were missed, & it was done with the utmost respect to to victims. I'm fairly new to this channel, but I'm really enjoying it. Sometimes I just can't devote 60-90 minutes to a full-scale documentary, so what "Dark History" does is perfect for me. Great job!👏👏
No matter who you are, no matter what flag you look to, we can all agree this loss of life hurts us all Fair seas and following winds lads, gone but never forgotten
“Well there’s your problem” did an hour long show on this so much was just…. Baffling. Like the emergency buoy doors had been welded shut. They told the Norwegian divers to open the door by spinning it the wrong way. This after they refused for days to let anyone help them just those poor guys
Love your videos! The Dutch company Mammoet(pronounced as Mammoot which is Dutch for Mammoth)also helped with the new sarcophagus at the Chernobyl plant.
Thank you for the correct pronunciation of “Mammoet” There is a company by that name where I live, and see these “large” vehicles all the time. I see now it makes perfect sense.
One slight error, it wasn't the harsh weather that prevented the Russian DSRV's attaching onto Kursk as below 150 feet all effects of a force 9 disappear (as I know from serving in subs for 22 years) so the failure of those DSRV's was down to poor maintenance and shoddy equipment. In fact one of the DSRV's fouled on the wreckage and had to be rescued by the other DSRV.
Russian equipment is all shoddy and poor. Russia doesn't really build anything with quality in mind and they also don't do training in the strictest terms. The fact they even have a military with guns that can actually shoot shocks me sometimes.
not true, it was down to sea state according to the russians, additionally by the time the russians got the rescue equipment out they had been dead for 20 hours if i remember correctly. atleast 20 hours since any contact was made with the sailors inside.
@@elpresidente7569 According to the rusians? THE FUCKING MOSKVA IS UNDER WATER WITH THE KURKS DUE TO A PORT FIRE. Their tanks are fucking exploding and sending the crew in pieces due to poor design, their helicopters fall from the sky and you`re telling me that everything was fine and dandy CAUSE THE RUSSIANS SAID SO? are you actually watching how russia is performing in Ukraine or have you been living under a rock for the past year?
It's terrifying to say the least. To be there with other crew members knowing you're going to die. The awful realisation it's absolute horror I can't imagine and if I try I get sick to my stomach. RIP poor souls
I was a lowly enlisted submariner in the 80s, but the paper in my little hometown had some file stuff from my sub school graduation and wanted a local perspective story so I was interviewed when Kursk went down. I said that it was tragic but felt they had waited too long to effect a rescue of the survivors. Sadly I was right. They may have been adversaries at one time, but I never wanted to see that.
The Russian navy was not allowed to properly fund their rescue vehicles. You fund more than just the obvious ships and subs, you need many proper support vessels.
1:21 "Newly-elected president, Vladimir Putin, was resolved to show the world his army was still one of the mightiest in the world." Aged. Like. *Milk.* lol
Explosion was “fake news.” But seriously, the government culture there is very much “don’t bring bad news” and “the best way to address a problem is to pretend it does not exist.” Someone likely suspected the explosion was something bad, but they didn’t want to get involved and passed the buck.
I worked onboard the Seaway Eagle on location of the Kirsk. Half the divers were British and about half Norwegian. I first heard about the disaster when I was at home, the night before I left to rejoin the Eagle. When I eventually got back onboard, the Eagle was laying a flexible pipeline, so we pulled the pipeline back on board the sailed for the location of the Kirsk, it took Three days to get there, we also had to mobilise the diving crew.
Here we are in 2022, and the Russian military is still in the same state as it was when it accidentally blew up their most advanced submarine. All that money spent by Russia and we are still laughing at their military incompetence.
I can't understand why Russia would think any of the other countries helping need or want that old subs technology. It often seems to me that history tells a story over and over of them killing their own troops for one reason or another.
I remember seeing a news programme which showed a scene of angry relatives of the dead seaman arguing with naval commanders demanding answers. This woman was immediately injected with some drug and hussled off Terrible.
Iran offered to stop the massive oil leak in the gulf of Mexico that DESTROYED people lives and businesses they said they could do it 7 days and free of charge but the Us government said no and let it leak for 6 more weeks.... those is glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
It's every country in a nutshell. Or do you think the US or UK would react differently? I saw this video after seeing one about the Lusitania. Which had a cargo hold full of munitions. It was hit by a single torpedo but the British admiralty lied that it was sunk by multiple torpedoes to cover up the fact that it was carrying munitions, which made it a legit target for the German U-boats. They tried to pin on the captain of the Lusitania too but that wouldn't stick.
@@Ozymandias1 not to this extent, russia is on a different level. Especially when it comes to refusing help from other countries when your own military lives are on the line, yes other countries cover stuff up too. But russia is just.. Well russia.
If thats how you see Russia, I'd hate for you to judge the U.S. we live a place that starts wars based on lies, then gets the entire world united in bullying nations that it knows cant defend themselves. All in the name of forcing ideologies upon them that their culture is opposed to.
I mean it's really not true that nobody paid for that negligence. A lot of the people complicit were in fact on the sub itself and died. Making sure the weapons are in good working order is one of many responsibilities of the crew.
Maybe someone should remind the Russian people how their government lied to them about the Kursk tragedy 22yrs ago. More of them might start to question Putin's lies about Ukraine.
There is footage of a admiral addressing the crews families, when a older women began to yell at him only from her to be drugged and dragged out of the room
The Titanic was considered unsinkable as it was an icebreaker that mysteriously hit an iceberg and sank to the bottom of the Atlantic! Story makes no sense but it's the official report.
It never seizes to amaze me, how big these things are/were.. even knowing the numbers and comparisons.. I still quite comprehend how gigantic they are…
@@raphaellavictoria01 No offense, but A. I know, B. It doesn’t matter as it’s the ships name and spelling it any other way would be incorrect, and C. Why does that matter
I remember when this happened, and people were talking about the similarities with Hunt for Red October. A US sub was in the area, and then a Russian sub sinks under mysterious circumstances. Also, I think it was determined that if Russia had accepted US help immediately, the crew in compartment 9 could have been saved.
It is just like Chernobyl. Deny, deny, deny, and beg for forgiveness later. Although to be fair, the US response isn't much different. We are first to give aid, and the last to accept it.
No the last of the crew died within the first day from a fire. No rescue assets could have got there that fast. They were dead before the sub was even found. IIRC, Watch the SMIT Kursk Salvage video, it goes into details of how long they survived after the explosions and sinking..
@@moviemaker2011zthose men were dead regardless if the Muscovite asked for help. The pressure from the depths would've killed them, and since the submarine lost all communication they had an hour or two before they ran out of oxygen. Even if the British, Norwegian and Americans tried to help there was no chance to save them.
@mattmannlvca there was a very small chance they could have survived. Many people have thought this over and the general conclusion is that if everything after the kursk sank had happened optimally there was a very slim chance to save them. Not saying it was absolute. But like a 1% chance of rescue.
@@moviemaker2011z which meant the waters had to be calm, communication had to up to date and the Russian naval protocol had to be search and rescue once communication stop.
@mattmannlvca yes, thank-you for agreeing with my original comment. Had the Russians not been so arrogant and stupid, the chances though slim of rescue were still there. Waters being calm is a minor issue so long as it's not storm like conditions and the Russians knew fairly early that something went wrong.
Russia takes war games so seriously that when signs of a ship actually being destroyed are reported the fleet commander ignores it until the war games are finished. That is some serious dedication right there.
I always remember one if the widows or mothers yelling at the officials in a press conference and a shady woman in a mac injected her in the neck and she was dragged away. Classic Russia
bruh these russians never fail to amuse me, they were seriously denying the acces of foreign rescuers to enter the sub in fear of stealing the subs design, meanwhile the sub was at the bottom of the ocean because it blew itself up lmao yeah i think that was the one sub they weren't try to copy haha
No fucking way you think that the US would've accepted help from Russia in a similar situation.... stop lying to yourself, they're all corrupted (politically and morally) beyond human imagination
Those in power in the Russian Navy and Putin have the death of the whole crew of the Kursk on there hands. I remember the day when the Kursk disappeared I was at work here in England when I heard about it on the news on the Radio. I was hoping for those Sailors on the Kursk would be rescued but alas they died including the survivors. I felt heartbroken for those brave Sailors on the Kursk especially for the survivors who eventually perished, I also felt so sorry for the wives, girlfriends, fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters of the dead but most of all for the 71 children who would never see there dad's again. I saw the film called Kursk quiet a few times and it makes you think how brave those who serve on submarines are. It doesn't matter what country they are from, I couldn't do there job on a submarine hundreds of feet below the ocean in a tube. May the crew of the Kursk RIP. 💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
They could have been saved, but the orc commanders and pootin didn't want to lose face if another country rescued them. Same thing Dictator Xi and CCP would do.
The most baffling thing about such accidents is that while these things are built for proper action and assured to be top of their class, safe, indestructible etc. they still tend to fail during the most optimal situations, like here with the whole fleet being present and conducting a naval exercise. Saying nothing happened and refusing any help has never led to benefit in these situations.
If the blast was so powerful that seismic sensors 4000 miles away detected it, wouldn’t it have been visible on the surface to nearby ships? And if not the explosion itself (somehow), wouldn’t there be something else? A debris field, oil, fluids, bubbles, SOMETHING? Yet they acted like it was a mystery and the charade they played trying to locate it. Russian antics at their finest
It is incredibly hard to locate a submarine just by sight/radar/sonar technology, their entire purpose is to avoid being found after all. Also, the Kursk was nuclear powered so didn't carry any oil, and the Bering sea is a harsh water where a small patch of bubbles and waves appearing for a couple of minutes would go unnoticed. Plus, the Kursk was still small in comparison to the vast area that the excersise took place in so they had a lot of ground to cover in the search, it is entirely reasonable that they needed a couple of days to locate the wreck.
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@@nadapenny8592 If the game wasn't a complete sci-fi unbalanced mess already, with submarines repesenting just another level of catastrophe, it would be funny... ^^
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** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER **
- Hebrew Book of Isaiah
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Honestly the word unsinkable is cursed, I would never consider any naval vessel to be unsinkable.
If history has taught us anything, it's that you NEVER label a vehicle as unsinkable or indestructible. You're just issuing a challenge.
@@themightymutt5213
Titanic: And I took that personally..
I find it baffling when a ship, submarine etc is still described as ‘ unsinkable ‘. People who do that really don’t learn do they?? Disasters are bad enough as it is but for people to not learn anything from those disasters, like the Titanic etc is astonishing.
These ships aren’t names unsinkable by those who built them. For example the white star like never claimed the Titanic to be unsinkable, it was the press.
Only an idiot would even say something like this. The survival of any submarine is dependent on remaining undetected--there's no unsinkability about it, and neither its builders nor its operators were stupid enough to think the boat couldn't be sunk.
A government abandoning its own sailors, even when assistance was offered. Absolutely disgraceful and unforgiveable.
they weren't abandoned by their government.
rather, they were unlucky that the authorities failed miserably in the rescue attempts by showing crass incompetence, arrogance, being too conceited and self-important.
RIP seamen.
@@mito88 Really? Not abandoned? They certainly were. No action was taken to try to save them.
@@archiebald4717 really....
action was taken, but it failed
@@mito88 They were abandoned the moment when idiot Putin refused help from foreign governments for the rescue efforts.
@@mito88 action that’s was far to late,should have accepted the offers of help .
No matter what you build, you can never call it indestructible or unsinkable. Ocean, space or nature force can't ever be compared to us, beings who once thought that the Sun rotates around Earth, that we are so privileged or important. Whatever you create, be humble and let it be blessed, because your own pride could kill you.
Jesus died for your sins, he cares about you
Male ego calling something unsinkable or indestructible is just daring fate to prove them wrong.
I saw another documentary about this disaster many years ago and it was one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Those men, trapped and knowing they were going to die, writing farewell letters to their wives, sweethearts and families. It was heartbreaking. And they could have been saved....at least some of them.
This video left out all the worst/saddest parts
@@RavenFilms what parts ? Name and shame!
Vladner Putin showing his true character.
T.I.R. ... This Is Russia :-( sadly in critical moments its people does not fail and show heroic efforts but the leadership and system in general is rotten :-(
In true Russian style.
"minor technical difficulties" Same line they used during Chernobyl and Operation Barbarosa. I have to give these Russians credit. They're an optimistic bunch! 😃
Agreed!!
More like a bunch of lying about their inferior products, and blaming western nations on the regular!!!🙏🤬
Shall I list the USA " minor technical difficulties? we have new $100 billion dollar ship that is useless it has so many' technical difficulties, the $1 trillion dollar f35 still has issues and spends lots of time grounded shall i go on?
@@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg That's my point, selling people an image (the best of this and that), and it's all smoke and mirrors...they call em spin doctors for a reason folks...pay attention billions wasted like it's nothing, oh yeah it's nothing to the 1%ers, it's the tax payer who will always foot the bill...always!!! 🙏🤔
@@mauricedavis2160 but western nations do the exact same thing.
I remember when this tragedy unfolded and it was horribly sad. The world felt so sorry that those men suffered the way they did, knowing what would happen.
Wasn't this sub yet another horrific killing-machine?
I think those who died quickly, in the explosions, were luckier. The survivors had a worse fate. I´ve been researching this story and was lucky to find this video; it´s very detailed and well-researched.
Not all of them. Sometimes flames don't kill you instantly and you are left burning alive for hours or days. It is worse than you can even imagine.
@@jimj2683 In an enclosed space, the fire would have used up available oxygen rapidly. Unlike in the open air, this would not be replaced. So it´s more likely any survivors died of hypoxia. I hope so anyway.
six to eight torpedoes exploded in that front compartment of a sub designed with withstand a torpedo hit. There is NO chance that everyone in that general area wasn't killed instantly from the concussion alone. The hull was blown open, so they would have died from the explosive decompression if they somehow managed to survive the concussion of the torpedos exploding in their faces.
@@Finx5008 That´s true. The second explosion measured 4.2 on the Richter scale and was recorded as far away as Alaska. Salvage discovered only 115 sets of remains. There were 118 crew, so presumably the missing three were completely obliterated. At least it was a quicker death than that of the 23 survivors in compartment 9.
@@elisabird6245 at least with hypoxia you become unconscious before starving of oxygen, so you wouldn’t be aware of what’s happening (aviation nerd here, except hypoxia is generally mentioned in high altitude cases), which is a small mercy. I’d much rather go out unconscious and unaware than surviving and knowing what fate awaits me, which is heartbreaking to think about
They should name all vessels "very much sinkable" to lower the expectations.
“Still probably sinkable”
"S.S. Very Sinkable" coming up!
@@lisafoos8976 ah yes the rubber will totally just make the torpedo bounce off and just fly ofd
@@lisafoos8976 It is ironic. 🙄
Yes. It's truly "funny" to listen about a nuclear sub, torpedo hit resilient, being sunk with a *training* torpedo, fired by itself. That wouldn't even cross the minds of Monty Python Team.
Those poor sailors. I felt really sorry for them when this was going on. May they rest in peace.
What I'll always remember about that tragedy is the woman who was sedated as she was yelling at a government official, during a meeting between officials and relatives.
yes, that footage is wild. Being forcefully injected while she's yelling at the officials
oh yeah, that reminds me. there was a man, who took part in this meeting, kind of a organizer, who said that putin called all these women "bunch of whores/sluts you hired for 10 bucks trying to discredit me". that's a devil we find ourselves dealing with nowadays
Yep , I've just mentioned it too
Hard to forget. They later explained it wasn't to pacify her but to ease her suffering.
@@michaelcorbidge7914 Ah yes, explanations from the Russian government. Nothing but the truth… ;)
@@DarkRecordsDocs also known as liquid cosh.
That automatic reactor shutdown which initiated with the first set of explosions shows how well engineered these things are. Even with this disaster, that mechanism still worked.
And thank f god for that!
Both the Russians and US have done their best to make naval nuclear power idiot proof. They then throw the best idiots they can find at it.
After the K-19 the russians sorta had to step their game up.
@@Therendezvousman K-19 was kept in service after the accident, and kept on killing its crew. She wasn't taken out of service until 1990.
A sad state of affairs when people find it impressive that failsafes exist.
I saw a documentary on the retrieval of the kursk, and the engineering plus the risks the divers took was nothing short of heroic. And I'd like to add this is one of the best retelling of this avoidable event, full of verified facts and a voiceover that was clear and measured. For once someone had the confidence of not hiding their voice amid terrible electronic gimmicks which usually make the narrator sound idiotic and unsure of his subject, hope to hear more from you in future ventures, thank you.
A long time ago while talking to a Navy recruiter they brought up the subject of being a submarine sailor, my immediate answer was
" Oh hell no! " or something like that.
Years later I had the opportunity see the interior of a boomer. While being somewhat larger than I imagined I still could not see myself stuck in this steel tube under hundreds of feet of water for months at a time.
Αυτά είναι για άνδρες που έχουν κάτω μεγάλα μπαλάκια.
I remember when that happened. My dad was in Ukrainian navy and Kursk was talked about quite a lot in my house, and I remember how appalled everyone was at Putin's actions.
Putin is a piece of KGB shit and will always be.
How did this freak become a billionaire anyway?
@@taunteratwill1787 how did this freak become the leader of russia?
This is so eerie and wake of what’s happening
If you are living in Ukraine now, I hope you are safe
@@tasleem5677 I don't, but my family is safe. thank you!
I like how other countries offered to help; a sign of unconditional love.
It's called basic human empathy, unfortunately something becoming more and more rare these days.
@@zukazealanee Mobilizing a rescue force is not easy.
Don’t be naive
@@justinfowler1271 I'm not naive.
Ask Indians and Irish about English 'empathy' ..
"Hmmmm, Kursk stopped responding, and stopped taking part in the exercise, and we detected this gigantic explosion.....They're fine, right?"
@@ingulari3977 It was forced to descend to the ocean floor. Five days later....okay guys we could use some help now.
One of the most chilling things i've seen on tv was when a wife of a deceased sailor in a conference was complaining and shouting demanding and explanation of how she is going to support her children now, then the secret police comes tries to drag her out and injected her with a sedative in live tv
That was so sad and insane. Whyd they even have that drug and needle so ready
yeah, some nations are not like others..
@@gloryshadow8710 don't be naive, in the USA , EMS has given Ketamine to victims of police brutality to remove memories.
@@katiekane5247 Please don't pollute a serious issue with misinformation. Ketamine does not remotely reliably induce amnesia, is not generally discussed or used as though it does, and is used by emergency services for (usually) much more legitimate reasons. And I say this as someone whose friend was killed by unjustified and ludicrously excessively dosed ketamine injection due to "excited delirium" which was anxiety brought on by officer abuse, so don't get me wrong, I care very much about the issue of irresponsible sedative use by first responders and I wholly support your point that the USA is not above criticism here. But I had to say something, because we need to discuss these issues accurately and scientifically in order to represent them well for productive discourse.
@@ItsAsparageese I’m glad you pointed out how massive of a dose they had to have given your friend to OD them. It takes a ludicrously large amount of it to OD on it :( I’m sorry for your loss
Being sunk by your own torpedo while doing a training mission and then having your own government cover it up.
All because of a bad weld
It is the Russian way
I was on Submarines for 20 years. Its absolutely horrible what can happen and your totally helpless. God bless their souls.
Thankyou for your service to your country.
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I wouldn't volunteer for a submarine, tank , or B17 bomber crew.
Thank you for your service Sir. These tragedies are hard to fathom.
Real world or you tube 💩?
The surprising part for me was the sheer size of the Kursk. It sank in 350ft of water, and if stood on its end at that location, a full one third of the submarine would be sticking out of the water.
About 170ft of it. Mad.
That's what I thought when depth of water was mentioned. And the diameter is bigger than the height of my house.
yeah when the size is mention I think of it as a nuclear missile sub like the Soviet Typhoon or American Ohio Class.
@@filanfyretracker Typhoon (Akula Class) is even bigger than Kursk. Much bigger. In fact, its underwater tonnage is similar to the battleship USS Iowa tonnage. And the top of its sail is so high above the keel that if it crashed to the seabed there, it would not be impossible to reach the surface just by swimming out of the escape hatches (that is, if anyone managed to get into the sail).
@@pavelslama5543 The Akula class had a draught of 39 feet, from waterline to top of sail was also 39 feet so depth of water above the sail was over 250 feet and you think someone could just swim out of the escape hatch from 250 feet below the surface?
Shout out to Norwegian sailors tried to help
Norwegians have been skilled at sub marine technical operations since they began pumping up North Sea oil in the 60s/70s
Russia: it was NATO! Or...maybe USA. Actually, um, UK! .....Okay we lied, it was us.
Russia: the worst case scenario would be so bad, that even though its most likely what happened, we are gonna completely disregard it
Russia: why everyone including ourselves hate us?
Russia: *repeats the same stuff time and time again...
Thats what Bullys do. Taking whats not theirs,threatening others to hide the own Faults
Well, at least they didn't blame the Swiss .
They tried to blame HMS Vanguard. She was nowhere near
For a analogy of how badly this was handled, imagine if at the Challenger explosion in the US, the NASA Announcer just said “everything is fine, just normal fuel burn off or spent fuel tanks, then hours later reassured they spoke with the Astronauts, all well, then admitted “minor technical issue,” but only because Russia moved a satellite so the Challenger would hit it, which was later shown impossible, as had no satellites at that atmosphere, and …then let’s the astronauts who were still alive in the capsule drown, because there were no US ships to pick it up and they didn’t want a non-US ship to because of either embarrassment or security concerns.
And then the US people said “meh,” and re-elected that same President for decades.
That is how bizarre this was.
Dude, this is SPOT ON!
Edit: I guess it's similar to GWB was re-elected after allowing the 9/11 terrorists to attack when the prior admin told them it was being planned by bin laden
Putin's not elected.
Since you brought up shuttles, NASA chose not to install escape pods in Challenger and all shuttles due to cost and much criticism has been aimed at NASA over it. And the faulty O rings were known about and NASA was begged not to launch in such cold temps. Secondly, Columbia and the damage to the wing was known about and dismissed in much the same way as concerns over Russian torpedoes. Even afterwards, only the determination of an engineer did the truth come out about the damage tiles falling off shuttles could do and be so severe.
NASA ground controllers did tell the crew they had seen it and not to worry.
So plenty of similarities with both the US Govt and the Russian. Your current POTUS is a demented child groping fool installed by fraudulent mail in ballots, so please spare us the Russia bashing rubbish. Your ill considered remarks are not in fact as clever as you would like them to be.
They weren't saying that NASA was without any wrongdoing. Just trying to put in context how crazy this whole thing is.
@@stephenpenniket9976
Those were not fraudulent mail in ballots. In the voting districts I have lived in, in Michigan and Florida, mail in ballots are only counted if they have a chance to change the outcome of in-person ballots. Hence, they are counted only after the polls close. I personally know several election workers. They are the geekiest, most passionate, democracy supporting Americans I know. Please do not spread The Big Lie. It demeans us.
"We are concerned that foreign divers will want to obtain intelligence from our submarine."
"Mate, I don't know if you've noticed, but the only intelligence we'll gain from your submarine is how not to build a submarine."
😂
You are missing the point. The submarines did not explode on its own. It was a faulty torpedo. Taking a look at the submarine would have given the west a lot of information
@@kopamed5024 what information! Your so- called unsinkable sub just sank. Gimme a break with your stupid conclusion.
@@kopamed5024 I think OP knows this, they were just making a joke.
The question is, was the secrecy worth the lives of the crew? It's not as straightforward a question as some might think and it might trouble people to know that these kinds of decisions have to be made regularly by governments and militaries across the world.
What I think is truly unforgiveable is the indecision and prevaricating by the Russian authorities only to arrive at a compromise much too late. They could have accepted the offers of help while forbidding foreign divers from entering the sub much, much earlier and probably saved some lives.
@@kopamed5024 But divers? Doing search and rescue? What were they going to do? Try and remember the importance of a bunch of fried boards and motionless gadgets, then relay exactly what information? The most vital part of the submarine was either blown to bits or sizzled by an internal fire. And these are divers, not individuals capable of relaying critical intelligence. That was simply paranoia.
I can't imagine being the divers and retrieving all those bodies. Must have been so traumatizing
Read, "Descent into Darkness". It is a first hand account of salvage operations at Pearl Harbor. Include body retrieval
There is not enough alcohol in the world to help deal with what those divers had to do.
I think body retrieval in general is pretty traumatizing...
@@superdave8248 added to my list
you need to see the SEWOL
Imagine the South Korean ferry that had over a hundred dead kids in it.
So sad that they wouldn't take help that would have saved the lives of the men in compartment 9. God bless the family's who lost their loved one's.
Russians!
@@cripcrap538 Putin
@@cripcrap538 ναι Ρώσοι γιατί εσύ τί εισε μην μου πεις Αμερικανός θα πεις ψέματα.
It’s a common occurrence. I think of the Korean ferry disaster that killed a bunch of students. It plays out exactly like this story. Government officials state nothings wrong, deny help form foreign countries, try to downplay until it’s too late and everyone is already dead.
Today is the Anniversary of the Kursk crew loss at sea. Here in America, I remember those brave souls that did their duty for her country.
My stepdad, a Kiwi, was in the Navy as a young man. He hated going down in the subs.......but they had to get used to every kind of vessel and trained on all of them. He was on the HMS Leander ship when they were torpedoed and lots of his mates were killed and the carnage was terrible. He wouldn't tell us anything beyond that, except how much he hated being in a sub.
My dad has claustrophobia and was on a sub for a while. After he managed to move to aircraft carriers, he always slept on deck. At least he was always ready if something went wrong with the landing lights!
@@jacquelynsmith2351 bs
@@npickle54 hmm... not sure how it was/is on your carrier, but in the 60s/70s, those lights needed a lot of maintenance, at least on my dad's ship. Or was he lying about something else?
Nz doesn’t have subs was he an expat?
@@tgoodwin9172 NZ did indeed have subs....we are talking about WW2 here...........
At this point I wouldn’t believe Russia if they told me water was wet. 🙄
Water isn't wet
@@bananamontana3956 then they are right not to believe Russia 👍
It is unfortunately still very true!
Dont ever trust russians
An absolute nightmare. My heart breaks for them, and their families. Unforgivable..
Yes it's very sad
I've had it in for Putin ever since he refused outside help in trying to save those poor men trapped on that sub. Had he asked for help, I would have figured that he gave trying to save them a good shot and well, things like this do happen after all. But he refused Western help. That told me that he doesn't care for the lives of anyone but himself. I saw what he's made of and what I saw is a man too concerned with "looking weak". A strong person knows when he needs a helping hand.
It is a shame. Clearly he does not care about his own people, even more so now since he's putting his country of unsuspecting people into a war on his own weak whims. Russia doesn't deserve that, and neither does Ukraine. They should all be living in stability.
All 23 could have lved if not for his cowardly despicable ego and pathetic need to be seen as powerful
@@lilheinz9496 ABSOLUTELY TRUE. So sad.
remember that the only reason why he has a chance at beating ukraine is because is trowing a bigger number of men at the grinder like a game, the evil degenerate soviet mindset at work
South Korea did a similar thing during the MV Sewol sinking
The pronounciation of 'Velikiy' is out of this planet :)
I think whoever was transliterating probably typed it wrong.
Not as out of worldly as “Dutch company Mammoët”
(Mammoet, pronounced mah-mood)
They could simply say "Peter the Great" instead of butchering pronounciention.
And "boowey".... it's "buoy" as in a male child. 😂😂
@@neilfoster814 no. accents differentiate when it comes to buoys and both are correct.
From minor difficulties to nuclear sub lost with all hands... Truly a peak moment of the russian navy
Whenever I think of submarines, I always picture them at WW2 size. I always forget how massive modern submarines are.
Same. I used to take tours of the grounded U-boat at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry and just had it in my mind for many years that they were all that cramped.
@@Durchii They still are. More size just means more gear.
Yeah one of my cousins used to work on one and it's like a whole city lol.
No matter how big they make them it's still a lot of work moving around inside them. The bigger they are the more equipment they stuff inside them.
This is one of the best telling of the Kursk tragedy I've seen to date. Even though it's in a shorter format than other documentaries about it, none of the important details were missed, & it was done with the utmost respect to to victims. I'm fairly new to this channel, but I'm really enjoying it. Sometimes I just can't devote 60-90 minutes to a full-scale documentary, so what "Dark History" does is perfect for me. Great job!👏👏
No matter who you are, no matter what flag you look to, we can all agree this loss of life hurts us all
Fair seas and following winds lads, gone but never forgotten
Really glad that I found this channel. Very informative and well narrated.
“Well there’s your problem” did an hour long show on this so much was just…. Baffling. Like the emergency buoy doors had been welded shut. They told the Norwegian divers to open the door by spinning it the wrong way. This after they refused for days to let anyone help them just those poor guys
Love your videos! The Dutch company Mammoet(pronounced as Mammoot which is Dutch for Mammoth)also helped with the new sarcophagus at the Chernobyl plant.
Thank you for the correct pronunciation of “Mammoet”
There is a company by that name where I live, and see these “large” vehicles all the time. I see now it makes perfect sense.
Humans: We considered this water vessel impenetrable and indestructible !
Mother Nature: How many times must i teach you this lesson?!
One slight error, it wasn't the harsh weather that prevented the Russian DSRV's attaching onto Kursk as below 150 feet all effects of a force 9 disappear (as I know from serving in subs for 22 years) so the failure of those DSRV's was down to poor maintenance and shoddy equipment. In fact one of the DSRV's fouled on the wreckage and had to be rescued by the other DSRV.
Russian equipment is all shoddy and poor. Russia doesn't really build anything with quality in mind and they also don't do training in the strictest terms. The fact they even have a military with guns that can actually shoot shocks me sometimes.
not true, it was down to sea state according to the russians, additionally by the time the russians got the rescue equipment out they had been dead for 20 hours if i remember correctly. atleast 20 hours since any contact was made with the sailors inside.
@@elpresidente7569 And the Russians tell the truth all the time do they?
@@elpresidente7569 According to the rusians? THE FUCKING MOSKVA IS UNDER WATER WITH THE KURKS DUE TO A PORT FIRE. Their tanks are fucking exploding and sending the crew in pieces due to poor design, their helicopters fall from the sky and you`re telling me that everything was fine and dandy CAUSE THE RUSSIANS SAID SO?
are you actually watching how russia is performing in Ukraine or have you been living under a rock for the past year?
The horror of being trapped in the depths, running low on oxygen…
That's the worst part. , and it wasn't in extreme depth to get them out.
It's terrifying to say the least. To be there with other crew members knowing you're going to die. The awful realisation it's absolute horror I can't imagine and if I try I get sick to my stomach. RIP poor souls
Erm sailors
When the Soviet Union collapsed, the only thing that changed was the name.
They kept every bit of bureaucracy and paranoia.
That was the culprit here.
I was a lowly enlisted submariner in the 80s, but the paper in my little hometown had some file stuff from my sub school graduation and wanted a local perspective story so I was interviewed when Kursk went down. I said that it was tragic but felt they had waited too long to effect a rescue of the survivors. Sadly I was right. They may have been adversaries at one time, but I never wanted to see that.
The Russian navy was not allowed to properly fund their rescue vehicles. You fund more than just the obvious ships and subs, you need many proper support vessels.
I still remember driving to work when I heard this on the radio. It was so hard to believe. I feel for the crew in compartment 9 and their families.
I'll never get on a boat if the owners say it's indestructible. Translation: we have dangerously lax safety standards because we think it cannot sink.
*Bad Things OnLy Happen to those who have ReJected the Lord Jesus!!!*
*Look at ME!!!! No Bad Thing Ever Happens to ME!!!!*
1:21 "Newly-elected president, Vladimir Putin, was resolved to show the world his army was still one of the mightiest in the world." Aged. Like. *Milk.* lol
USSR eCoNmIcS too
I like how they got multiple readings of an explosion and disregarded it entirely lmao
"Must have been the wind."
And that's "lmao" funny?
@@martinc.720 The Russian military is laughable, all you can do is laugh at it and how pathetic it and its leader are.
sorry not sorry.
Explosion was “fake news.” But seriously, the government culture there is very much “don’t bring bad news” and “the best way to address a problem is to pretend it does not exist.” Someone likely suspected the explosion was something bad, but they didn’t want to get involved and passed the buck.
Nyet explosion. Is potato 🥔
I worked onboard the Seaway Eagle on location of the Kirsk. Half the divers were British and about half Norwegian. I first heard about the disaster when I was at home, the night before I left to rejoin the Eagle. When I eventually got back onboard, the Eagle was laying a flexible pipeline, so we pulled the pipeline back on board the sailed for the location of the Kirsk, it took Three days to get there, we also had to mobilise the diving crew.
15:33 says "July 2022" 😳
But again, your videos are of the highest quality! Keep up the great work!
Freudian slip?
I came here to see if anyone else noticed 😂
I was like... Wait.. What?!
Saw that too. Oops.
@@ariannasherwood9438 same
Imagine dying in an escape hatch because ur government is to embarrassed to ask for help
I'm literally amazed at how the channel is able to put so much content and information In just 15-20 minute videos. I should have stayed In school.
Here we are in 2022, and the Russian military is still in the same state as it was when it accidentally blew up their most advanced submarine. All that money spent by Russia and we are still laughing at their military incompetence.
Must be that ego trip
Remember US and UK had Iraq with 48 hours .
@@thedude2916 yes, after bombing it to ashes for a couple of months
Mammoet delivered some true engineering magic by lifting 20,000 tons from the seabed
Rip young Sailors. Well done Documentary my man 🙏🤙
The way they lied to everyone about every single thing that happened is disgusting
I can't understand why Russia would think any of the other countries helping need or want that old subs technology. It often seems to me that history tells a story over and over of them killing their own troops for one reason or another.
5:35
Ship: Yo something exploded, everythings shaking
HQ: Whatevs
I remember seeing a news programme which showed a scene of angry relatives of the dead seaman arguing with naval commanders demanding answers. This woman was immediately injected with some drug and hussled off
Terrible.
The reasons for the tragedy sound like a good description for most of the Russian military in general.
um, Murica has had ten times as many screwups (that were impossible) as USSR did!
As someone who’s severely depressed the Don’t Despair at the end of the letter made me cry
Refusing help from other countries till it was too late ✔
Goverment tried their best to cover it up as long as possible ✔
Russia in a nutshell
Iran offered to stop the massive oil leak in the gulf of Mexico that DESTROYED people lives and businesses they said they could do it 7 days and free of charge but the Us government said no and let it leak for 6 more weeks.... those is glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
It's every country in a nutshell. Or do you think the US or UK would react differently? I saw this video after seeing one about the Lusitania. Which had a cargo hold full of munitions. It was hit by a single torpedo but the British admiralty lied that it was sunk by multiple torpedoes to cover up the fact that it was carrying munitions, which made it a legit target for the German U-boats. They tried to pin on the captain of the Lusitania too but that wouldn't stick.
@@Ozymandias1 not to this extent, russia is on a different level. Especially when it comes to refusing help from other countries when your own military lives are on the line, yes other countries cover stuff up too. But russia is just.. Well russia.
@@Ozymandias1 Yes they would react differently...
If thats how you see Russia, I'd hate for you to judge the U.S. we live a place that starts wars based on lies, then gets the entire world united in bullying nations that it knows cant defend themselves. All in the name of forcing ideologies upon them that their culture is opposed to.
I can remember very well when this all happened, praying that the sailors could be saved. May they all rest in peace!
You need a new god, yours sucks
kursk: im unsinkable
titanic: HAVEN'T YOU LEARNED FROM MY MISTAKE!?
I mean it's really not true that nobody paid for that negligence. A lot of the people complicit were in fact on the sub itself and died. Making sure the weapons are in good working order is one of many responsibilities of the crew.
Making sure the crew has the right gear, tools and training though is the responsibility of the navy.
It's like Chernobyl, the unwillingness to abandon an exercise despite unsafe conditions.
The authorities did not react properly to save the survivors.
"But sir! It's designed to take a direct hit from a torpedo!"
"Well fire two then you idiot!"
Strength in numbers
Thank you for keeping the ad relevant and short
Maybe someone should remind the Russian people how their government lied to them about the Kursk tragedy 22yrs ago. More of them might start to question Putin's lies about Ukraine.
Russia and Putin both are nothing compared to Washington DC and Joe Biden. Just a reminder
sure because America and Europe never lied^^ 3 Million dead Civilians in the middle east 🤦🏼♂️ but they never lie 😂
They only care about how fast the western fastfood brands will be replaced.. they dont have time to question anything..
There is footage of a admiral addressing the crews families, when a older women began to yell at him only from her to be drugged and dragged out of the room
never mess with a Russian Mother !!! Even a badass Admiral will never try it. They respect their Mothers!
yeah they arrest people in the USA that do that and lock them up... but we will ignore that right?
...dang, it's been 24 years already?? I could've sworn this was a more recent incident...
Ironic, a lot of ships etc nicknamed "unsinkable", ended up at the bottom of the sea.
Not all of them, but we only hear of the ones that sank.
@@EneTheGene true.
@@EneTheGene A ship is unsinkable until it sinks.
The Titanic was considered unsinkable as it was an icebreaker that mysteriously hit an iceberg and sank to the bottom of the Atlantic! Story makes no sense but it's the official report.
Like how a battlecruiser HMS Invincible just exploded during the Battle of Jutland
It never seizes to amaze me, how big these things are/were.. even knowing the numbers and comparisons.. I still quite comprehend how gigantic they are…
> makes a video about a submarine blowing up
> gets a sponsorship from WOW
> subscribed
My dad was on (in?) a Navy Nuke Sub Jon C Calhoun for many years- I can only IMAGINE the terror these people felt; I know it was my dad’s worst fear!
the moskva has now done a sequel.
The crew of the Pyotr did an excellent job with what they were able to do.
btw, Pyotr Velikiy means Peter the Great.
@@raphaellavictoria01 No offense, but A. I know, B. It doesn’t matter as it’s the ships name and spelling it any other way would be incorrect, and C. Why does that matter
I remember when this happened, and people were talking about the similarities with Hunt for Red October. A US sub was in the area, and then a Russian sub sinks under mysterious circumstances.
Also, I think it was determined that if Russia had accepted US help immediately, the crew in compartment 9 could have been saved.
It is just like Chernobyl. Deny, deny, deny, and beg for forgiveness later.
Although to be fair, the US response isn't much different. We are first to give aid, and the last to accept it.
maybe its wanted that no witnesses survive. Think of that... less troubla afterwards.
I don't remember the US even offering help, it was the Brits and Norwegians.
@@krashd they did. Obviously it wasn’t accepted, but the US did offer. I can’t post links but multiple articles discuss it.
No the last of the crew died within the first day from a fire. No rescue assets could have got there that fast. They were dead before the sub was even found. IIRC, Watch the SMIT Kursk Salvage video, it goes into details of how long they survived after the explosions and sinking..
so had Russia allowed help the first time, those in section 9 could have been possibly saved
Yes exactly. Had they accepted the help there is a chance that those in section 9 would have survived.
@@moviemaker2011zthose men were dead regardless if the Muscovite asked for help. The pressure from the depths would've killed them, and since the submarine lost all communication they had an hour or two before they ran out of oxygen. Even if the British, Norwegian and Americans tried to help there was no chance to save them.
@mattmannlvca there was a very small chance they could have survived. Many people have thought this over and the general conclusion is that if everything after the kursk sank had happened optimally there was a very slim chance to save them. Not saying it was absolute. But like a 1% chance of rescue.
@@moviemaker2011z which meant the waters had to be calm, communication had to up to date and the Russian naval protocol had to be search and rescue once communication stop.
@mattmannlvca yes, thank-you for agreeing with my original comment. Had the Russians not been so arrogant and stupid, the chances though slim of rescue were still there. Waters being calm is a minor issue so long as it's not storm like conditions and the Russians knew fairly early that something went wrong.
Time for the WORLD TO STOP KILLING EACH OTHER.
I never knew the Kursk was that big!! . I had thought it was a smaller diesel mid distance type.
It was so large it had a swimming pool on it. Seriously I'm not kidding.
I remember like it was yesterday.
What a tragedy!!
4 days after bomb explosion at Moscow Pushkin square.
Kursed 2000 August, indeed
Russia takes war games so seriously that when signs of a ship actually being destroyed are reported the fleet commander ignores it until the war games are finished. That is some serious dedication right there.
Just caught one thing. Screen said 2022 but you said 2002. Minor stuff. I’m loving the content! Glad I found your channel 👍
I wondered if that was an error
Maybe he was hinting something 💀
I always remember one if the widows or mothers yelling at the officials in a press conference and a shady woman in a mac injected her in the neck and she was dragged away. Classic Russia
I wonder what happened to her? Where is she now?
Me to
@@paulhogg9153 gulag. She needed reeducation
I remember the day this happened. I continued to follow the story as it developed.
bruh these russians never fail to amuse me, they were seriously denying the acces of foreign rescuers to enter the sub in fear of stealing the subs design, meanwhile the sub was at the bottom of the ocean because it blew itself up lmao yeah i think that was the one sub they weren't try to copy haha
Really makes you stand out as a really nice person, if the deaths of so many people and the grief of their families amuses you
@@daisiesofdoom yep, because i definitely said that the deaths was the part i found amusing, did you even read the comment i wrote?
@@daisiesofdoom He didnt say the death amused him, your argument is poor 👎
No fucking way you think that the US would've accepted help from Russia in a similar situation.... stop lying to yourself, they're all corrupted (politically and morally) beyond human imagination
Those in power in the Russian Navy and Putin have the death of the whole crew of the Kursk on there hands. I remember the day when the Kursk disappeared I was at work here in England when I heard about it on the news on the Radio. I was hoping for those Sailors on the Kursk would be rescued but alas they died including the survivors. I felt heartbroken for those brave Sailors on the Kursk especially for the survivors who eventually perished, I also felt so sorry for the wives, girlfriends, fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters of the dead but most of all for the 71 children who would never see there dad's again. I saw the film called Kursk quiet a few times and it makes you think how brave those who serve on submarines are. It doesn't matter what country they are from, I couldn't do there job on a submarine hundreds of feet below the ocean in a tube. May the crew of the Kursk RIP. 💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
They could have been saved, but the orc commanders and pootin didn't want to lose face if another country rescued them.
Same thing Dictator Xi and CCP would do.
The most baffling thing about such accidents is that while these things are built for proper action and assured to be top of their class, safe, indestructible etc. they still tend to fail during the most optimal situations, like here with the whole fleet being present and conducting a naval exercise. Saying nothing happened and refusing any help has never led to benefit in these situations.
If the blast was so powerful that seismic sensors 4000 miles away detected it, wouldn’t it have been visible on the surface to nearby ships? And if not the explosion itself (somehow), wouldn’t there be something else? A debris field, oil, fluids, bubbles, SOMETHING? Yet they acted like it was a mystery and the charade they played trying to locate it. Russian antics at their finest
It is incredibly hard to locate a submarine just by sight/radar/sonar technology, their entire purpose is to avoid being found after all. Also, the Kursk was nuclear powered so didn't carry any oil, and the Bering sea is a harsh water where a small patch of bubbles and waves appearing for a couple of minutes would go unnoticed.
Plus, the Kursk was still small in comparison to the vast area that the excersise took place in so they had a lot of ground to cover in the search, it is entirely reasonable that they needed a couple of days to locate the wreck.
15:33 Oopsie, someone forgot to check the video editing prior to uploading. 😯
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Well, I think it's safe to say that they made an underwater predator and the seamen were consumed within the belly of the beast.
Interesting wording
There were sailors trapped which might have been saved,as the us and British were capable of a rescue but the Russians refused
I’m here after the titan imploded 😢
Hey, history repeats itself
First manned submarine implosion, look at the tryhards setting records from beyond the grave.
@@Name-ot3xwwhat are you even saying?
Your gorgeous
It was actually 2 British divers that went down the first time to open the hatch and look for signs of life
Condolences to the families who lost their loved ones.
How many are here in 2023 after 5 people went missing in a sub! 🙋🏼♀️
Being a former sailor myself, RIP
Pretending all is running perfectly when in fact this is catastrophic… that remembers me something….
God that sucks, just the idea of dying underwater like that terrifies me. This is just heartbreaking to listen to.
I almost think I would rather burn to death