Hi Joe, i would've liked to see examples of the lights underwater, i still cannot identify which one is better and why, anyway thanks a lot for your explanation. That can be an idea for your next video!!
Check out my videos on Gopro Red Filter: ua-cam.com/video/SY3hts96Xsg/v-deo.html Dome Port: ua-cam.com/video/tv2wjV6UnzY/v-deo.html Gopro 10 best underwater accessories: ua-cam.com/video/TA7Y8KTxtOU/v-deo.html
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Nice video. It's 3 years old now. I just got the Gopro Hero 10 m but there is actually a Hero 12 available now. Suggestions to viewers: -fimor lights that come with top and bottom mounts, buy two (2) and connect them together. You can angle them left and right, slightly away from center to get a wider field and twice the brightness. In impresses with the Neewer 60 and I hope it's still available.
Thanks! Not sure why you included a light you really didn't like for the "best of" video. ;) But I found it useful. QUESTION: Do you use any lights for snorkeling or only diving?
If I am night snorkeling I will use one. But I usually snorkel in the day so it is not needed. And at snorkeling depth not much color is lost so a light is not neccessary
Thanks for this video. I looking for underwater video light for gopro and not sure about the brightness, distance, wide angle of light will enough for real life use in scuba diving. Hope you made the real life use video in scuba diving with these light in this video. Thank you.
I have always been a fan of the Light & Motion Side Kick Duo light. They are a higher price point then some of the ones you featured but the build quality is worth it!
I owned two Sidekicks; I loved them. they were sweet until they flooded. They were powerful and reliable until they, over time, took on saltwater. They're toast. I never had them deeper than 60-feet.The first one to leak was showing Galvanic reaction. I should have suspected a saltwater leak. Sidekicks RIP. I will search out another brand.
Is it possible to set up a go pro cam like other videographers do with their camera? Example: a tray, 2 floats to mount lights and a dome port so thay we can take it underwater more confidently and manouvet according to the convenience.
Hi there, I watched your video and I really appreciate it but had a question maybe you can help. I have the gopro hero 8 and was going to buy the light mod for it from the gopro website but wanted your advice if i should do that or if you think the suptig or neewer is better? I definitely want to purchase whichever is the best one out there but both the neewer and suptig 84 have inconsistent reviews on other sites. Thank you for your help!
If you are going in the water with it I would do the suptig or the neewer. The gopro light mod is only waterproof to 33 feet. The Neewer and the suptig are waterproof to 131 feet or more. Also the gopro mod is only 200 lumens so it is not very bright. But if you want compact then the Gopro would seem a good choice. I have owned a small suptig for about three years and it has not leaked on me yet after many 100 ft dives. Hope that info helps
Took your advice and went for the big Neewer... It lasted all of 40 minutes down to 20 metres 😂 had a lot of water inside by the time I surfaced. Seems that a lot of people have had a similar experience, are you doing any additional prep to these lights before diving?
These lights wont do anything unless the subject is very close to the light. I have the shoot handheld pro and I can only use it for selfies lets say 1m away from me, but for shooting divers that are further away than let's say 2m it's useless. I think it's important to mention these lights are amateur entry models and in my opinion not worth buying, unless you shoot macro
Yeah, I use a Gopro and everything looks small unless you are close to your subject. So i just film whats close to me and these lights seems to be sufficient for the price. Your channel is great BTW, what camera are you using?
Hi ... I wanna ask about Backscatter when you positioned Suptig 36 LED directly under the GoPro just like in this video. Can that LED light positioning avoid Backscatter ? It would be great if you have sample video for that light positioning. Thank you
Very good question because backscatter will definitely a big problem with this setup Many people try to show this kind of setup on land only to avoid the true story when it apply to real underwater footage. I think this man either do not know what he is doing or just to avoid telling the truth!!!!!
Does the flash work for photo sequencing? And if the LED is on all the time in the sequence photo mode or if the flash is fired photo by photo! Please I am very interested to know that! Tell me on text because i cant understand all that u telling on vídeo! Thousand thanks Joe.
All these lights are only constant on (no strobe). Except maybe the shoot handheld pro. But gopro can't do that anyway. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
So I'm looking for a light to turn on for glamor shots on fish at night. I use red lights to keep the bugs away but when I show the fish to the camera or to the livestream I want to have a white light to turn on. Which one of the suptig lights would you recommend? The 84 led or the 36 led? I'm usually within 15 ft of the camera when bank fishing and within 5 feet of the camera on the kayak. Thanks ahead for your opinion and answer!
Thank you for this video, very well done ! I cannot decide between the Shoot Handheld or the Newer 60, I like the 18650 battery tho, as they are easy replaceable between dives. What would you recommend ? which one is the strongest one ? thank you :)
I like the Neewer much better than the shoot. I love 18650s I have many spares. I don't like the charger port on the shoot either. The shoot maybe a little brighter, but worh price and convenience I go with the Neewer. Thanks for watching
It seems the Neewer that uses 18650, (60 led version reviewed here) may be discontinued? No one actually sells it any longer (listed as unavailable). Is really well reviewed on Amazon. The replacement from Neewer is smaller and does not use 18650.
I just bought the suptig 72 led 5 color lights & just got it last night. Really bright light & easy to use. 164' water proof. The colors are bright light,red,yellow,blue,pink. Would have been better with green instead of pink IMHO but seems good. My only complaint so far is not much info on the small information card. I will not be diving with it. (To old & fat & live in Michigan). But hope to get some underwater footage of fighting some fish on the Great lakes.
@@JoeOceanside I just posted one testing it on my balcony so you if you wanna check that out go ahead and I'm gonna try to build my UA-cam channel. Mostly gonna be cooking and fishing
My guys reading the Amazon description and believing it. We have used all these lights besides the shoot and every single one leaks within the first few uses and quits working. We do commercial diving work on boats and harbors so not super deep most of the time and they still don't work properly. I can't find a shoot led pro for sale anywhere did they go out of buisness?
Good video, most of my dives with gopro that i have used different go pro (unoffical) lights they all leak rather quickly and shallow. I usually go to 30-40 m but they sadly usually give in just after a few meters. I just ordered the Shoot handheld pro diving torch. So i can manage to film at 50meters. Hope it works
I hope you find one you like, I have a suptig I have used for over three years and is still working great. I recently took my neewer to 100 feet with no issue. What are you filming at 50 meters? that is really deep
@@JoeOceanside my end game would be filmimg mines, i just made it through the advanced recreational trimix plus course. So first of i want to film that acheivement for self fullfillment purposes 😂 but next course i aim for are the minediving course. I ve seen so many beautiful and amazing pics and films of mines here im sweden. Our lakes and ocean arent much except for some wrecks. Atleast not eastcoast of sweden. Westcoast hsve some corals, fish ans stuff. So i want to film some mines
Thank you for the rundown on GoPro-type lights. With these Suptig lights mounting below the GoPro, will it make it difficult to get up close to macro creatures, such as Nudibranchs, with the light on the bottom while using the Backscatter +15 Macro Mini? With the Suptig light facing head on, won't it pick up backscatter for regular shooting?
The reason why that 2nd light has a two prong charging system is that a USB port will eventually leak because you're relying on ankther seal. The two prong magnetic charger is sealed from factory no seal no malfunction. The 2nd light is the best light he mentioned for many reasons. If you're a true diver it is the most sealed and all the other crap is crap nothing underwater should have a USB cap that is it.
Hi Scott, yes I personally use the Neewer 60 led and the small suptig. I have been using the suptig for about 3 years and no issues. I have brought the suptig down below 100 feet. If you take a look at the Shipwreck dive video on my channel, my dive buddy is using the small suptig down on the wreck. Thanks for watching
@@uncivilizedadventures Its bright and it has diffuser plates for it also, and of course I love the 18650 batteries but it is very bulky. I am going to mount it on my a6500 rig and just use the smaller suptig on the Gopro.
your link to amazon for a dive housing for the go pro takes me to a gopro camera instead fo the actual dive housing. --> Gopro Hero 8 Dive housing: amzn.to/3eKqzEA
Im sorry guys if you are doing underwater photography or videos you want high Lumens over 8000 lumens at the lest the light you are showing you have to be on top of your subject to see any think. My advice (Go cheap on the camera and buy a set of good lights that are over 8000 lumen).
Has this guy ever been under water with a video camera? For best result you need two lights, each slightly ABOVE the camera, so that you get natural throw of light & shadows. Light from below looks very unnatural.
I promise you all these lights are garbage. This guy is wearing a wetsuit in his house which is also very weird. The shoot handheld, which is what I bought, was great for 10 uses, then water probably leaked into it and broke. The max depth I've ever been to is 90ft. Do not take any of this garbage if you're a tech diver. Very unreliable. If you want a reliable dive light you'll pay over $300
I have been using the suptig for years now and the neewer for almost a year. They have been working great, especially considering the price. Keep in mind I am using these for Gopro lighting, not for tec diving. Thanks for wathcing and commenting!
The setup is Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! because backscatter will definitely happen with this kind of setup unless you are only a few inches away from the subject and in that case the light will be too strong. You can dispute that by showing me some real life footage to prove otherwise. It looks good in your room but that is not where we suppose to be shooting...show me some REAL footage from this setuo..I like to see....
ive had 2 x hondak lights... not good...they were expensive waste of time...they are called qudos in the UK and cost me £89 each light....didnt live up to their expectation
With all due respect, this light is worthless to me. With a maximum brightness of 500 lumens, it’s insufficient, especially below about 40 feet or in wrecks. I dive with two GoBee 1000 lumen lights on a tray that give me decent results on my GoPro. Plus, if I change my camera, I don’t have to invest in another proprietary light. Finally, there are enough negative Amazon reviews regarding water leaks that would deter me from buying this product. I think this light is priced to be disposable.
I liked your question because I've been thinking the same thing. If you have a light, it should make up for the loss of red as you go deeper, so you can leave your white balance setting at -5, and fix it in post if you have to, but with the Hero 11 you shouldn't have to.
What type of dive light are you using for your Gopro Hero 8?
none I don't have one
Hi Joe, i would've liked to see examples of the lights underwater, i still cannot identify which one is better and why, anyway thanks a lot for your explanation. That can be an idea for your next video!!
Check out my videos on Gopro
Red Filter: ua-cam.com/video/SY3hts96Xsg/v-deo.html
Dome Port: ua-cam.com/video/tv2wjV6UnzY/v-deo.html
Gopro 10 best underwater accessories: ua-cam.com/video/TA7Y8KTxtOU/v-deo.html
Video Improvement Suggestions: Create Chapters in your video to make finding each product faster, list your products in the description in the same order that you present in the video. Cheers!
Yeah that is a great idea, thanks for the tip
Good idea.
Nice video. It's 3 years old now. I just got the Gopro Hero 10 m but there is actually a Hero 12 available now. Suggestions to viewers: -fimor lights that come with top and bottom mounts, buy two (2) and connect them together. You can angle them left and right, slightly away from center to get a wider field and twice the brightness. In impresses with the Neewer 60 and I hope it's still available.
Nice, you are the only youtube video that showcase the shoot xtgp460 handheld light. Been looking for a review of this product for ages. Thanks a lot!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching
Can you do another one of these? Most of these products aren't available now.
Thanks! Not sure why you included a light you really didn't like for the "best of" video. ;) But I found it useful. QUESTION: Do you use any lights for snorkeling or only diving?
If I am night snorkeling I will use one. But I usually snorkel in the day so it is not needed. And at snorkeling depth not much color is lost so a light is not neccessary
I love yr channel conten..coz I like scuba diving n view underwater
Thanks for this video. I looking for underwater video light for gopro and not sure about the brightness, distance, wide angle of light will enough for real life use in scuba diving.
Hope you made the real life use video in scuba diving with these light in this video.
Thank you.
The Shoot LED sticks out front so far that it looks like it would be in the video shot.
Would be better if u have shown some underwater video of that light's performance.
subtig always get my vote in scotland diving.
Yeah I have been using it for four years now and it just flooded the other day.
Thanks, man! Great video, lots of value and information.
I’m new to diving. Would the more powerful lights be usable as night diving lights? Not just for filming, but as your light source.
Yeah, they are good. Just make sure you bring a backup light
I have always been a fan of the Light & Motion Side Kick Duo light. They are a higher price point then some of the ones you featured but the build quality is worth it!
Cool thanks, I had never heard of it. I will look into it. Thanks for watching
I owned two Sidekicks; I loved them. they were sweet until they flooded. They were powerful and reliable until they, over time, took on saltwater. They're toast. I never had them deeper than 60-feet.The first one to leak was showing Galvanic reaction. I should have suspected a saltwater leak. Sidekicks RIP. I will search out another brand.
I've noticed some LED lamps flicker which the GoPro picks up as lined across the footage interference.
Yeah, cheaper lights do that especially when you put them on dim settings
Is it possible to set up a go pro cam like other videographers do with their camera? Example: a tray, 2 floats to mount lights and a dome port so thay we can take it underwater more confidently and manouvet according to the convenience.
Hi there, I watched your video and I really appreciate it but had a question maybe you can help. I have the gopro hero 8 and was going to buy the light mod for it from the gopro website but wanted your advice if i should do that or if you think the suptig or neewer is better? I definitely want to purchase whichever is the best one out there but both the neewer and suptig 84 have inconsistent reviews on other sites. Thank you for your help!
If you are going in the water with it I would do the suptig or the neewer. The gopro light mod is only waterproof to 33 feet. The Neewer and the suptig are waterproof to 131 feet or more. Also the gopro mod is only 200 lumens so it is not very bright. But if you want compact then the Gopro would seem a good choice. I have owned a small suptig for about three years and it has not leaked on me yet after many 100 ft dives. Hope that info helps
Took your advice and went for the big Neewer... It lasted all of 40 minutes down to 20 metres 😂 had a lot of water inside by the time I surfaced. Seems that a lot of people have had a similar experience, are you doing any additional prep to these lights before diving?
Thanks for the video. However, I was waiting for you to say which one you think is best for photography/video? What's your opinion?
I use the big Neewer, I pretty much only do video. Thanks for watching
These lights wont do anything unless the subject is very close to the light. I have the shoot handheld pro and I can only use it for selfies lets say 1m away from me, but for shooting divers that are further away than let's say 2m it's useless. I think it's important to mention these lights are amateur entry models and in my opinion not worth buying, unless you shoot macro
Yeah, I use a Gopro and everything looks small unless you are close to your subject. So i just film whats close to me and these lights seems to be sufficient for the price. Your channel is great BTW, what camera are you using?
@@JoeOceanside gopro8 so far. Looking to upgrade to high end camera
Hi ... I wanna ask about Backscatter when you positioned Suptig 36 LED directly under the GoPro just like in this video.
Can that LED light positioning avoid Backscatter ? It would be great if you have sample video for that light positioning. Thank you
I don't have a good comparison video. I just mount it like this cause it is easy and quick. Thanks for watching!
Very good question because backscatter will definitely a big problem with this setup
Many people try to show this kind of setup on land only to avoid the true story when it apply to real underwater footage. I think this man either do not know what he is doing or just to avoid telling the truth!!!!!
Great review! Thanks for the info!
Does the flash work for photo sequencing? And if the LED is on all the time in the sequence photo mode or if the flash is fired photo by photo! Please I am very interested to know that! Tell me on text because i cant understand all that u telling on vídeo! Thousand thanks Joe.
All these lights are only constant on (no strobe). Except maybe the shoot handheld pro. But gopro can't do that anyway. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
So I'm looking for a light to turn on for glamor shots on fish at night. I use red lights to keep the bugs away but when I show the fish to the camera or to the livestream I want to have a white light to turn on. Which one of the suptig lights would you recommend? The 84 led or the 36 led? I'm usually within 15 ft of the camera when bank fishing and within 5 feet of the camera on the kayak. Thanks ahead for your opinion and answer!
Thank you for this video, very well done ! I cannot decide between the Shoot Handheld or the Newer 60, I like the 18650 battery tho, as they are easy replaceable between dives. What would you recommend ? which one is the strongest one ? thank you :)
I like the Neewer much better than the shoot. I love 18650s I have many spares. I don't like the charger port on the shoot either. The shoot maybe a little brighter, but worh price and convenience I go with the Neewer. Thanks for watching
It seems the Neewer that uses 18650, (60 led version reviewed here) may be discontinued? No one actually sells it any longer (listed as unavailable). Is really well reviewed on Amazon. The replacement from Neewer is smaller and does not use 18650.
Advantage of the Hondak side mount might be that it's not gonna light up the backscatter as much?
Maybe, but I don't think it's far enough away to reduce the back scatter. It is possible though. Thanks for watching!
I just bought the suptig 72 led 5 color lights & just got it last night. Really bright light & easy to use. 164' water proof. The colors are bright light,red,yellow,blue,pink. Would have been better with green instead of pink IMHO but seems good. My only complaint so far is not much info on the small information card. I will not be diving with it. (To old & fat & live in Michigan). But hope to get some underwater footage of fighting some fish on the Great lakes.
Oh cool, let me know if you post any vids.
@@JoeOceanside I just posted one testing it on my balcony so you if you wanna check that out go ahead and I'm gonna try to build my UA-cam channel. Mostly gonna be cooking and fishing
thanks for the review. really helpful.
Would it better to mount the light on top of the gopro if you have a cold shoe on your housing
your link for the GoPro Hero Dive housing and the Neewer 60 Led dive lights are no longer working.
Best Underwater Dive Light Guide on UA-cam. Thanks dude. Subscribed!!
Awesome, thanks! I am glad you enjoyed!
I did a couple of suptig dive light video reviews in the west of scotland...for the money they are great wee lights
what would be the best one to use surfing at night with a mouth mount?
Interesting video, nice!
It would be amazing if u could test them underwater!!!! Please!!!
I live in Thailand and I dive 5-10M in low visibility green seas. Which light to you recommend for selfies and corals?
Have you tried a magenta filter? Light may pickup too much back scatter
My guys reading the Amazon description and believing it. We have used all these lights besides the shoot and every single one leaks within the first few uses and quits working. We do commercial diving work on boats and harbors so not super deep most of the time and they still don't work properly. I can't find a shoot led pro for sale anywhere did they go out of buisness?
can't find the link to Shoot handheld pro dive torch, please check, thanks
Shoot handheld pro dive torch: amzn.to/2VpPllG
hello, about the suptig 84led, can you change its batteries down the road?
Do you have any example underwater videos with some of those lights?
Good video, most of my dives with gopro that i have used different go pro (unoffical) lights they all leak rather quickly and shallow. I usually go to 30-40 m but they sadly usually give in just after a few meters. I just ordered the Shoot handheld pro diving torch. So i can manage to film at 50meters. Hope it works
I hope you find one you like, I have a suptig I have used for over three years and is still working great. I recently took my neewer to 100 feet with no issue. What are you filming at 50 meters? that is really deep
@@JoeOceanside my end game would be filmimg mines, i just made it through the advanced recreational trimix plus course. So first of i want to film that acheivement for self fullfillment purposes 😂 but next course i aim for are the minediving course. I ve seen so many beautiful and amazing pics and films of mines here im sweden. Our lakes and ocean arent much except for some wrecks. Atleast not eastcoast of sweden. Westcoast hsve some corals, fish ans stuff. So i want to film some mines
I can't find the shoot for sale anywhere??
Ok bro I think one of those light would do good for my night adventure am thinking about doing something night clips
Awesome, diving at night is exciting! Thanks for watching!
yea bro going to be posting some night contents pretty soon I have just order the first light you talk about
Good video
Thanks
Would you recommend using red filter caps for the camera lenses when using lights as well ?
No, when you have a light you do not need red filters.
Any chance of in water footage using the supping 84??
Hopefully, but I'm on lockdown for a while in my area because of Covid
any sample footage ,,, ?
A lot of these lights aren’t around anymore. Do you have any updates?
No I have not made an update for the 9 yet
The big Neewer light is 1800 lumens.
at least thats what it said in the specs on amazon
Oh ok, it's bright. I used it in a cave on my Blue Grotto video if you want to see it in action
@@JoeOceanside ok I will go check that out
What do recommend for hero 5 session
Probably the smaller suptig light, it is only slightly wider than the session. Thanks for watching
used your link,and it said not available
Thank you for the rundown on GoPro-type lights. With these Suptig lights mounting below the GoPro, will it make it difficult to get up close to macro creatures, such as Nudibranchs, with the light on the bottom while using the Backscatter +15 Macro Mini? With the Suptig light facing head on, won't it pick up backscatter for regular shooting?
I am not an expert on that but I think you want to get that lights off to the side to prevent the backscatter like you said
You can also flip the orientation in the GoPro settings, so you can record upside-down
The reason why that 2nd light has a two prong charging system is that a USB port will eventually leak because you're relying on ankther seal. The two prong magnetic charger is sealed from factory no seal no malfunction. The 2nd light is the best light he mentioned for many reasons. If you're a true diver it is the most sealed and all the other crap is crap nothing underwater should have a USB cap that is it.
how long last shine Suptig will ? half hour ?
My little one has lasted over an hour, and the battery is three years old
@@JoeOceanside wow thats cool. but you can use extra baterry hehe :)
Do not see the shoot handheld pro for sale
Have you actually taken any of these in the water? Some have quite a few low ratings due to leaks on the first dive.
Hi Scott, yes I personally use the Neewer 60 led and the small suptig. I have been using the suptig for about 3 years and no issues. I have brought the suptig down below 100 feet. If you take a look at the Shipwreck dive video on my channel, my dive buddy is using the small suptig down on the wreck. Thanks for watching
ua-cam.com/video/_lFMZmMLm_g/v-deo.html
How do you like that 60 led?
@@uncivilizedadventures Its bright and it has diffuser plates for it also, and of course I love the 18650 batteries but it is very bulky. I am going to mount it on my a6500 rig and just use the smaller suptig on the Gopro.
price of produc
My early Suptigs tended to leak. Lately they’ve done better.
thanks fot not showing us these products underwater
your link to amazon for a dive housing for the go pro takes me to a gopro camera instead fo the actual dive housing. --> Gopro Hero 8 Dive housing: amzn.to/3eKqzEA
Oh thanks, I will look into it
Im sorry guys if you are doing underwater photography or videos you want high Lumens over 8000 lumens at the lest the light you are showing you have to be on top of your subject to see any think. My advice (Go cheap on the camera and buy a set of good lights that are over 8000 lumen).
anybody mounted one of these lights to a mask with a gopro mount with out the gopro. just the light on the mask
I did on this video ua-cam.com/video/Qh5DpzLuW_8/v-deo.html
Neewer 60 LED now out of stock on amazon
You never showed what it looked like underwater?
On aliexpress is like $20
Has this guy ever been under water with a video camera? For best result you need two lights, each slightly ABOVE the camera, so that you get natural throw of light & shadows. Light from below looks very unnatural.
I promise you all these lights are garbage. This guy is wearing a wetsuit in his house which is also very weird. The shoot handheld, which is what I bought, was great for 10 uses, then water probably leaked into it and broke. The max depth I've ever been to is 90ft. Do not take any of this garbage if you're a tech diver. Very unreliable. If you want a reliable dive light you'll pay over $300
I have been using the suptig for years now and the neewer for almost a year. They have been working great, especially considering the price. Keep in mind I am using these for Gopro lighting, not for tec diving. Thanks for wathcing and commenting!
The setup is Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! because backscatter will definitely happen with this kind of setup unless you are only a few inches away from the subject and in that case the light will be too strong. You can dispute that by showing me some real life footage to prove otherwise. It looks good in your room but that is not where we suppose to be shooting...show me some REAL footage from this setuo..I like to see....
used your link,and it said not available
Do you have backscatter problem with the setup that you are showing with these lights?
ive had 2 x hondak lights... not good...they were expensive waste of time...they are called qudos in the UK and cost me £89 each light....didnt live up to their expectation
Yeah, the suptigs and Neweers seem to be pretty good for the price
Hey joe I did get the amazon torch light 1000 lumen u were describing but it can’t get it to work or turn on ??
If you bought it on Amazon you should return it, they have a real good return policy. Hope you get one that works
Joe Oceanside it did and I did looking for a new light now ha thanks again
With all due respect, this light is worthless to me. With a maximum brightness of 500 lumens, it’s insufficient, especially below about 40 feet or in wrecks. I dive with two GoBee 1000 lumen lights on a tray that give me decent results on my GoPro. Plus, if I change my camera, I don’t have to invest in another proprietary light. Finally, there are enough negative Amazon reviews regarding water leaks that would deter me from buying this product. I think this light is priced to be disposable.
i thought you would show how broght they where under water to.
Hello...do you reccomend using filters with hero 11 or just higher white balalce and post editing on computer...for underwater footage...great video
I liked your question because I've been thinking the same thing. If you have a light, it should make up for the loss of red as you go deeper, so you can leave your white balance setting at -5, and fix it in post if you have to, but with the Hero 11 you shouldn't have to.