Why Asian Americans are not the Model Minority | Alice Li | TEDxVanderbiltUniversity

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  • Confined within the boundaries of the model minority myth, Asian Americans are commonly perceived as a mass of indistinguishable overachievers who are all “smart” and “good at math.” However, these seemingly positive stereotypes can have a detrimental impact on not only Asian Americans, but also race relations in general. In this talk, Alice Li draws from research studies and her personal experiences to challenge the two-dimensional identity outlined by the model minority myth.
    Originally from Kentucky, Alice Li is a sophomore at Vanderbilt University. She is pursuing a major in neuroscience and a minor in music performance. In 2015, she was honored as a United States Presidential Scholar and as a Cornelius Vanderbilt Scholarship recipient. Outside of class, she enjoys cooking, playing piano, writing articles for the student newspaper, conducting research in a psychology lab, and participating in cross-cultural organizations. Her diverse interests stem from a desire to both create and exchange ideas with others, and she is passionate about exploring the intersection of academic disciplines and personal stories.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

КОМЕНТАРІ • 446

  • @grantchow13
    @grantchow13 3 роки тому +108

    “Asians” will always be treated like foreigners in Western culture.
    Born,raised,educated,worked and lived here my whole life and get told “You speak really good English” ? by old Caucasian ladies like I’m a child ?

    • @mastertrey4683
      @mastertrey4683 3 роки тому +6

      They forget that we have been living here our whole lives

    • @jhonklan3794
      @jhonklan3794 3 роки тому +1

      Yet you most likely grew up in a two parent household, have access to higher education and had a silver spoon up your but unlike most white Americans. Stop trying to be oppressed so bad.

    • @simonabucur2945
      @simonabucur2945 3 роки тому +5

      @@jhonklan3794
      How do you know his personal life? And do you say only poor people can be oppressed? Are you saying the most white Americans are poor? Then why aren't you classified as a poor country? And before you assume things again, no, I am not Asian and I think you are projecting your personal issues here.

    • @grantswartz8752
      @grantswartz8752 3 роки тому +3

      I never understood why people don’t learn the other person language/culture or at least try to I’m learning Chinese now and learned Russian and Spanish I. School...better pay options and manyyy other positives of learning other cultures besides yours

    • @mbords01
      @mbords01 3 роки тому

      ...then some do not fail to call me "honey, sweetie. "

  • @moriahsun
    @moriahsun 6 років тому +81

    Wow she’s so right though: when she said “one American won the gold metal and one American won the silver metal” I immediately expected her to say “and one Asian won the bronze metal”. Dude in my mind I imagined two Caucasian women winning the gold and silver. And I’m fricking Chinese American myself.

    • @zetsu6888
      @zetsu6888 3 роки тому

      you do know- this was 2 years ago youve probs grown

    • @raphaelsanluis9711
      @raphaelsanluis9711 3 роки тому

      Well look at it this way nobody is as perfect .

    • @raphaelsanluis9711
      @raphaelsanluis9711 3 роки тому

      Not everyone could get perfect at least .

  • @misopark4055
    @misopark4055 7 років тому +218

    I love watching the Asian American ted talks because I can relate SO MUCH

    • @uncommercialtraveller4057
      @uncommercialtraveller4057 7 років тому +3

      Miso Park I know what you mean - I feel the same when I listen to Commander Rockwell.
      We are tribal creatures and we are all part of a larger family - our race. It's a wonderful feeling.

    • @vosaemify
      @vosaemify 4 роки тому

      Me too!

    • @vosaemify
      @vosaemify 4 роки тому +1

      The myth is real. I've joined music bands and they say "we have an Asian now" we are now good with music. I'm high average at best lol

    • @eltonprince6257
      @eltonprince6257 3 роки тому

      @@vosaemify You can blame Herman Li for that one, and I think he’s English, lol.

    • @wanglee21
      @wanglee21 3 роки тому +1

      Isn't odd that most Asian on Tedx Talk, talk only about how we are misrepresented in western social standards.

  • @kellygoodman6167
    @kellygoodman6167 7 років тому +89

    I'm not Asian but I came to watch this to learn.

  • @TheJhartge
    @TheJhartge 6 років тому +77

    What the myth is really about is manipulating apparent signs of success as a tool that denies all our right to voice our race related experience whether we’re Asian or not

    • @effexon
      @effexon 4 роки тому +8

      oppression by appraisal.

    • @ChloeGrace00
      @ChloeGrace00 3 роки тому +2

      I replayed that segment at least ten times...

    • @beactivebehappy9894
      @beactivebehappy9894 2 роки тому +1

      that line was so powerful. It reminded me of one of the replies in some video where the person arguing said that if Indians can do it/overcome racial barrier, why can’t other asians do that. As a non-American myself that gave me a quite weird feeling as if it was some person justifying their racism in the guise that it did not exist itself. The person’s further argument was as if there is discrimination/little there might be, but it is not that much giving the example of Sundar Pichai and other Indians as CEOs

    • @3flyte_3flyte
      @3flyte_3flyte 10 місяців тому

      Exactly.

  • @lmdeboom
    @lmdeboom 4 роки тому +3

    Well presented. Very informative. Thank you.

  • @daviddarden1915
    @daviddarden1915 5 років тому +26

    The incites on this was very informative. Having been able to travel in the US Air Force as a Security Police and being stationed in Japan, Korea and Philippines. I found myself surrounded by people who in America are a minority and now they are the majority. Meaning that now I learnt that people who I rarely see are quite more interesting than what was portrayed in American society. Now me being a African-American sometimes we are the majority in many places. As compared to our Asian American brothers and sisters. So when I was first stationed overseas in Korea in the year 1987, I really started to become more understanding of the Asian American experience. I am glad that I was able to acquire relationships and friendships from being open minded and taken advantage of opportunities of diversity.

  • @sherylmartin777
    @sherylmartin777 3 роки тому +3

    I loved her final comments. The whole talk was great!

  • @ToniEl87
    @ToniEl87 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much. Very enlightening.

  • @SadethCheng
    @SadethCheng 6 років тому +93

    I sometime think "Asian-American" is a misnomer. I was born and raised in America my entire life. I have never held any other nationality besides that of a US citizenship. My ethnicity is Asian, but my nationality is, currently, and has always been, 100% USA.

    • @samsung9159
      @samsung9159 6 років тому +6

      but do u still eat asian food ? celebrate asian traditions ?

    • @flea10x6
      @flea10x6 5 років тому +23

      Sam Sung less often that many or most caucasians with whom I associate. How does the food you eat apply? So thos Texans or other residents/citizens of the US who eat so many tacos/burritos/nachos... do you identify them as Mexican due to their food preference?

    • @user-zo8hs4yh2h
      @user-zo8hs4yh2h 4 роки тому +8

      Don't have to be offended by that. Race and nationality are different things.

    • @tlp031102
      @tlp031102 4 роки тому +2

      Yes you are American!

    • @daudimpulumba6742
      @daudimpulumba6742 4 роки тому

      You are not American but you are asian

  • @smellydonut5088
    @smellydonut5088 3 роки тому +4

    Very insightful!

  • @vanilla7320
    @vanilla7320 4 роки тому +18

    I wish I wasn’t stereotype, I’m not smart, I do not “eat dogs”, I am not perfect to everyone else In my town.Most Asian Americans are mostly stereotyped which is sad and leads to stress for high expectations.

  • @nadejdadobrydnik
    @nadejdadobrydnik 4 роки тому +7

    A big thank you to the author for bringing this important topic up. I appear Asian, however, I was born and raised in a country that used to belong to USSR. So essentially, in my head, I'm Russian. I consider myself a person who has first-hand experienced and developed appreciation for different religions and cultures due to my upbringing. However, I used to always feel out of place. Coming to the US, I thought that finally I can belong. For me, the US was a multicultural country, which accepted all. Little did I know about "yellow fever", the term "Twinkie" or model minority myths)))

    • @iskdude9922
      @iskdude9922 4 роки тому +1

      it's not a myth. You are asian but your ethnic upbringing may be of something else. east asians make more money than whites. South east asians don't make as much money. It appears you can't handle reality so i won't delve deeper into why it's like that.

  • @sae4842
    @sae4842 3 роки тому +4

    Great talk. I am an Asian latina and feel bad for Asian Americans. You never really feel like you belong. Not asian enough, not american enough, not latina enough. Your self-esteem takes a hit. When I was a kid, I didn't have these thoughts, maybe because I was surrounded by too many mixed blood asian-latinos. But coming to Canada where I now live, the feeling of being foreign is much more pronounced as I see more segregated racial communities. You'd think because it is a first world country, this wouldn't happen. It is a very strange feeling.. The more people talk about it, the worst I feel for fitting in the stereotype. The worst thing is that sometimes I take comfort knowing that since I am Asian latina, I am more unique than other Asian Americans. It is a very deep feeling which is wrong. The media certainly makes it worse. Listening to 'good' stereotypes is a way of protecting yourself, but ultimately makes you feel guilty. It is like there is no win win. Everyone deserves to be treated as a unique person.

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 2 роки тому

      Moving to a foreign country = being viewed as an outside. Obviously

  • @shahrzadketabollahi5496
    @shahrzadketabollahi5496 3 роки тому +1

    I'm Middle Eastern, but came here because I felt like I wasn't seeing the bigger picture with Asian stereotypes (especially considering I've never met one in real life). Thank you for this TED-talk. I certainly learned a lot :)

  • @jgg59
    @jgg59 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve read many different articles on the model minority myth. You’re TEDTalk brings it all together very concisely.

  • @TheChildfreeCurlyGirl
    @TheChildfreeCurlyGirl 7 років тому +52

    Wow! Bravo!!! Based on the comments, this went over a lot of heads.

  • @MindOfFoolio
    @MindOfFoolio 7 років тому +195

    I agree. Don't stereotype people! There's too much variasian 😇☝️

    • @657111221
      @657111221 7 років тому +1

      If you had any intelligence you would have understood the point I was trying to make. Talk about having chips on their shoulders!

    • @Shannon-wn6mz
      @Shannon-wn6mz 7 років тому +15

      Hahah vari-asian 😂😂

    • @BracaPhoto
      @BracaPhoto 4 роки тому

      There's no way to "stereotype" an individual... A stereotype is a statistical average of groups... Anyone that's studied statistics understands that it DOES NOT predict an individual...
      In other words I don't quit understand what your saying... I'm a bit confused

    • @nocap7885
      @nocap7885 4 роки тому +5

      @@BracaPhoto
      Uh no thats not what a stereotype is.
      Meriam Webster defines it as a standardized mental picture that is held in common by members of a group and that represents an oversimplified opinion, prejudiced attitude, or uncritical judgment. To say that all stereotypes must have a factual basis, or aren't often derived from misinterpretation would be dishonest. In fact many stereotypes have no factual basis and are derived from propaganda/anecdotal association. It seems you're the one causing yourself this "confusion."

    • @BracaPhoto
      @BracaPhoto 4 роки тому

      @@nocap7885
      I've just noticed some stereotypes seem to be correct and most of them aren't... That's just my life experience...

  • @BamBam-ib6qk
    @BamBam-ib6qk 2 роки тому

    Wow GREAT Job here!

  • @Lilyrose23
    @Lilyrose23 7 років тому +59

    I'm black and it's true that Asian are often left out in big debates. for example, in the last election I didn't heard the Media asking about who they would vote for. But Asians have to speak up, the only way to get change and show that we aren't happy about certain situations is to shake the system. Republicans can't handle that. but without the constant noises that African Americans make when white people try to get back on their old racist ways this country would still have slavery. people don't define you, you tell them who you're and you make them respect it. of course there are black people who are racists toward Asians and Asian against black people. And not all white people are racists. but the system should benefits all of us. which is why people call out white people, it's because the system is only profiting them and everyone else has to fight against the system so against white privilege and stereotypes.

    • @Lilyrose23
      @Lilyrose23 7 років тому +4

      +Death From Above and Below
      Why don't you go below !!!!!!!

    • @oceanneli8735
      @oceanneli8735 7 років тому +5

      Okay, we are NOT using our race as a playing card. Also, you should stop generalising all Asians and learn how to type.

    • @harbinger9072
      @harbinger9072 6 років тому +2

      +Bunnies Forever
      you have a naive, anti-white majority view that has been inculcated in you by indoctrination.
      There is no basis for idea that blacks as minorities in the USA would not be prejudiced and even outright hostile toward Asians.
      Why did you think that? You thought it was "minority bonding" ?
      That might work for 5 minutes, maybe.

    • @laken1804
      @laken1804 6 років тому +7

      + Bunnies Forever, other minorities are not pushing Asians down, so your attempt to make your voice hear is difficult. Quit trying to make people feel sorry for you.

    • @daustin8888
      @daustin8888 5 років тому

      You still think voting is going to solve anything

  • @brianpelzer5811
    @brianpelzer5811 4 роки тому

    GREAT VIDEO TED TALKS. GOOD COMMENTARY ON WHY ASIAN AMERICANS ARE NOT THE MODEL MINORITY MYTH.

  • @alisonkuo4436
    @alisonkuo4436 6 років тому +13

    every time someone tell me your so smart i said lier and then i walk away

  • @topnotchtn4538
    @topnotchtn4538 7 років тому +4

    Preach.

  • @JTu8925
    @JTu8925 4 роки тому +10

    I'm a foreigner living in Japan, I have other friends in China and South Korea. We all experience the idea of being the perpetual foreigner. Home country Asian even treat immigrated Asians as outsiders but still get Asian benefits. That's just the world we live in.

  • @kaleidojess
    @kaleidojess 2 роки тому

    9:19 that’s exactly what it is. Race obviously matters that’s why we talk about it so much.. just well said. Great video.

  • @nousername4402
    @nousername4402 3 роки тому

    my left ear enjoyed this

  • @RAralar
    @RAralar 4 роки тому

    Yes we are

  • @morakano8986
    @morakano8986 7 років тому +61

    There's a disparity between how Asian women and Asian men are treated in the west. You don't have to be going to Vanderbilt to figure that shit out.
    She's doing a whole lot of talking, but it will always fall on deaf ears.

    • @Luckyshadow33
      @Luckyshadow33 7 років тому +42

      Who cares? Because it's our country and we LIVE here.
      Not China, not Japan, not Korea, not Thailand, not Mongolia. The United States of America.
      We're Americans. Why should Americans comment on Chinese identity politics when we can't even handle our own? We want to change what's closest to us because it affects US.
      You know why you still think we should comment on China? Because you don't view us as Americans.

    • @helpihavenoskin8939
      @helpihavenoskin8939 7 років тому +6

      Maybe you should stop appropriating white culture and move back to china, a pretty novel idea eh?

    • @Luckyshadow33
      @Luckyshadow33 7 років тому +35

      Maybe you should stop appropriating modern culture and move back to 1936, a pretty novel idea eh?

    • @ehm2943
      @ehm2943 7 років тому

      Minsu Jee they will always be equally discriminated and REAL ASIANS WON't GIVE A SH@T!!!!

    • @ehm2943
      @ehm2943 7 років тому +1

      Minsu Jee you can tell despite how bright and accomplish she is that the liberal koolaid is clouding her thoughts. asian women have TOO MUCH TO DEAL WITH let alone invest on a discriminating speech coz of diversity. better off reading art of war if u want to win anything asian!!

  • @turuus5215
    @turuus5215 4 роки тому +6

    I am Asian, not American. I was thinking about going to America to live, where everyone has equal rights and opportunities. I feel a little disappointed.

    • @philoindo9438
      @philoindo9438 4 роки тому +1

      Stay where u r brat

    • @arkaysam803
      @arkaysam803 3 роки тому +6

      @@philoindo9438 And you claim land by killing natives

    • @user-rc3ii4jd8v
      @user-rc3ii4jd8v 3 роки тому +4

      @@philoindo9438 tf is your problem

    • @Healp145
      @Healp145 3 роки тому +1

      @@philoindo9438 And you have indo as a last name

  • @lovesonmyside2184
    @lovesonmyside2184 6 років тому

    I agree with her about Asians in Politics. Her last 5 mins was Powerful although she seemed a little chocked up.

  • @bluedog101c
    @bluedog101c 5 років тому +7

    Middle Eastern and Indian are also classified as Asian in the "income bracket."

    • @bluedog101c
      @bluedog101c 3 роки тому +4

      @anurag693 Asians include pakistan, india and some of middle east decent in US census.

    • @thelegend27yes15
      @thelegend27yes15 3 роки тому +1

      Middle Easterners are not counted as Asians in the statistics she was using for income as the census bureau does not include Middle Easterners into the "Asian" category but rather the "white/ Caucasian" category.

  • @spicychickenisme2143
    @spicychickenisme2143 4 роки тому

    the audio is bad ._. but the ted talk is good

  • @laman8914
    @laman8914 4 роки тому +19

    I admire her courage, but the problem I have with these kind of analysis is that it analyses the symptoms but does not go the heart of the problem; the perception of the white Christian majority group about their fellow citizens. There's where the problem is and there is where we should start: study the mind, behavior, perceptions, norms and values held by whites and how they project that on other fellow Americans who don't look like them. However, the people that should be standing on the podium to explain this, most of them are sitting in the audience. So, we have a wrong directional discussion and the problem remains. It's the whites that should explain why they perceive and treat others differently than themselves.

    • @riiraa881
      @riiraa881 2 роки тому +1

      Wow, I've been saying this for a while now (different words but same sentiment). I'm glad somebody else sees it the same way. Unless White people get involved and begin to examine their own biases and prejudices, the problem will continue to exist because that is the root of the problem.

    • @beactivebehappy9894
      @beactivebehappy9894 2 роки тому

      10 times that.🙌

    • @beactivebehappy9894
      @beactivebehappy9894 2 роки тому

      10 times that.🙌

  • @YesitisDex
    @YesitisDex 4 роки тому

    I love Asian Americans..,or just people in general like this.
    My "competition" is next to none 😂

  • @dr.leesanatomyacademy5405
    @dr.leesanatomyacademy5405 3 роки тому

    I embrace all the stereotypes, thank you. I don't have any of those. Maybe the driving thing.

  • @toasturhztoastbunz896
    @toasturhztoastbunz896 2 роки тому

    I remember being teased relentlessly for not living up to the standard in middle school. No fun I'm telling ya...

  • @Hillary_Official_1
    @Hillary_Official_1 4 роки тому +8

    I am Chinese Canadian or Asian Canadian 🇨🇳🇨🇦

  • @657111221
    @657111221 7 років тому +11

    Oh what lovely wars we are going to have in the future!

  • @howellwong11
    @howellwong11 7 місяців тому

    When people ask me what race am I, I would answer, Chinese-Japanese-Hawaiian. I stick with the American culture of the high socio-economic class. I'm smart and good at math, but that is about it.

  • @marvajefferson6958
    @marvajefferson6958 3 роки тому +1

    I don't understand what a model minority is, if you know explain it to me 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @marvajefferson6958
      @marvajefferson6958 3 роки тому +1

      I have a better idea of a model minority is starting with a high intellectual.
      So with that line of thinking where does that leave the rest of us minorities??

    • @kaleidojess
      @kaleidojess 2 роки тому

      A minority group that all other minority groups should basically look up to because they're the ideal model. A group of minorities, non white, who are seen as the ideal minority, or ideal non white, immigrant, ethnic group. They are seen as the cream of the crop amongst all minorities.

    • @kaleidojess
      @kaleidojess 2 роки тому

      The term seems like a compliment but it's actually insulting

    • @dpatra7081
      @dpatra7081 2 роки тому

      Basically Asians are a minority group that do well statistically in USA. People say this contradicts narratives that USA is a place that is only good for white people.

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 Рік тому

      @@kaleidojess only if you make it so

  • @faithngwenya7634
    @faithngwenya7634 3 роки тому +2

    Maybe it's an African thing but when people ask kids parents anyone where they are from we automatically say our village roots despite not being born there or growing up there I actually think everyone in Africa does that especially people I have met

    • @marvajefferson6958
      @marvajefferson6958 3 роки тому +1

      I have no idea what my village roots are my connection to Africa since I'm
      three generations removed.

  • @azazel166
    @azazel166 3 роки тому +1

    Aged like wine, now that hot-heads are taking their frustrations out on Asian-Americans due to the pandemic.

  • @johnvtram
    @johnvtram 3 роки тому

    A teach at harvard

  • @andrewkendall4496
    @andrewkendall4496 6 років тому

    "Race still matters" (in the US and probably western Europe) only to the degree it fits within the larger psychological construct of people's tendency to quantify anyone different. That, however, applies well beyond race. Yet race is somehow the biggest? I don't believe it's a substantial problem, only a phenomenon of humanity, occasionally tinged with wrong conclusions and/or magnified and misplaced outrage.

  • @jcwt_pdx
    @jcwt_pdx 4 роки тому

    That’s why mean people are sick in the head!

  • @TGIM
    @TGIM 7 років тому +12

    It's insane that the world has been broken down to three races

    • @user-zo8hs4yh2h
      @user-zo8hs4yh2h 4 роки тому +1

      Because its always been that way

    • @philoindo9438
      @philoindo9438 4 роки тому +2

      @@user-zo8hs4yh2h no it hasnt line eyes

    • @khav11
      @khav11 3 роки тому

      @@philoindo9438 natives are originally from asian countries and russia arabs are white passing, jews are white passing. anything else?

    • @3flyte_3flyte
      @3flyte_3flyte 10 місяців тому

      Conservatives are to blame, mostly.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 3 роки тому +5

    East Asian Americans not South East Asian, West Asian, And South Asian ones usually

    • @thelegend27yes15
      @thelegend27yes15 3 роки тому +4

      Wdym? No they are included. South and Southeast Asian groups do better than East Asian groups. West Asian groups do around the same as European groups and fall under the "white/Caucasian" category in the census bureau. The statistics she used encompassed East, Southeast, and South Asian groups as they are included under the "Asian" category.

  • @SeeHang
    @SeeHang 3 роки тому

    Whoa data about hmong hmong people. Interesting.

  • @Ultimate_Tito_TheExplorer
    @Ultimate_Tito_TheExplorer 6 років тому +1

    Lie: 12 years old don’t allow to drive

  • @bindoe4001
    @bindoe4001 3 роки тому +1

    From an immigrated Asian who used to be laughed at his strong accents back in high school, I would say Asian-American are smart and talented. They outperformed whites in all areas from education to jobs performed. I'm not scaling on the level of vertical, but I'm talking about horizontal analysis. As we all can see Asian are out performing Whites from year after year. Why don't you mention that Asian privileged. If we think us as an minority then why wouldn't they. Come on, you guys are smart, and talent, but we might need to work on some self-esteem. I see all the Asian always hangout as a group, and don't usually break out the box. I also see Asian people call other Asian people who hangout with white or try to fit "white brainwashed". I get it, racism is there. However, the way to let people see us cool is not to tell them hey I'm cool, pls treat me as a cool guy. Therefore, I would say "minority" is so overused. I heard it everywhere, specially in college.

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 2 роки тому

      keep in mind the average asian has more money than the average white. Most asian immigrants have professional degrees. blacks/hispanics too

  • @countjanushassildor4727
    @countjanushassildor4727 6 років тому +2

    Honestly as a hispanic person I could care less, my personal view is that we are all people and we all have different ways of being based on culture, and we can respect each others cultures if we wish. And I know Asians are seen as a model minority but it's not like my whole world is the U.S or Europe, there's a whole world out there, different cultures and people, that whole stereotypical rhetoric isn't global, and therefore constitutes my lack of shits to give.

  • @kevinnguyen5588
    @kevinnguyen5588 Рік тому +1

    I sure gave my professors and mangers a headache -- top performer but nonconforming to the stereotype.

  • @andrewlankford9634
    @andrewlankford9634 4 роки тому +1

    Race always matters. Just like my belly button does.

  • @ravipeiris4388
    @ravipeiris4388 6 років тому +8

    Living in California and as an Indian Asian, I know about racism, especially from Latinos - they get free citizenship, free education and because of affirmative action-get jobs with half the education of those of Asians.

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 2 роки тому

      Latinos don't get free citizenship and the education they get isn't as good as the affluent private schools asians send their students in

    • @3flyte_3flyte
      @3flyte_3flyte 10 місяців тому

      L.A., especially. They can spew racism and they think they're entitled to. Idiots.

  • @vwoday1872
    @vwoday1872 6 років тому +3

    model minority is still a minority

    • @MrJm323
      @MrJm323 5 років тому +2

      Whatever will you do when whites finally become another minority?

  • @silvretsartusende4078
    @silvretsartusende4078 6 років тому +1

    Of course there are outliers but stereotype accuracy is based on some pretty rigid foundations.

  • @andrewlankford9634
    @andrewlankford9634 4 роки тому

    5:10 Whoa. Where's your statistical evidence to back up that assertion?

  • @dominion8998
    @dominion8998 3 роки тому +1

    east asian is model minority

  • @Joseph-uh9gk
    @Joseph-uh9gk 7 років тому +1

    Just a thought but maybe this notion of Asian Americans being foreigners has to do with them being perceived as insular to their cultures. All people congregate around their own ethnic group. The way to stop stereotypes is beginning with individuals. As a person who isn't Asian just from personal experience the people who do the best in school are Asian. Stereotypes die off when they are no longer true.

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 4 роки тому

      But stereotypes mean that there some truth to it, stereotype doesn't mean myth, and asians got to score higher than whites blacks and browns, to go to the same school, and as in score high i mean this, say u had to score 500 pts on the sat test to pass, if an asian person scored 500 they wouldnt pass we would have to score 600 to pass and thats the governments rules.

  • @joseclaudioclaudio5334
    @joseclaudioclaudio5334 6 років тому

    I am an advanved English student, l need the highest son my computador is in last volume please help- me!

  • @alvincay100
    @alvincay100 7 років тому +2

    It's not a myth if statistics back it up. In particular I would call her attention to the gender wage gap, which for Asian women is essentially non-existent.

  • @SinoLegionaire
    @SinoLegionaire 3 роки тому

    Yes we are and we don't apologize for it.

    • @ehabbayoumi4925
      @ehabbayoumi4925 2 роки тому

      I smell YT person pretending to be Asian because most Asians hate that stereotype... most Asians are starting to fight that stereotype, because it undermines all of the negative things they actually go through. Nice try bub, I could be wrong... You may actually be Asian, and if that's the case have fun being "smart"

    • @SinoLegionaire
      @SinoLegionaire 2 роки тому

      @@ehabbayoumi4925 I am an East Asian nationalist I am just proud of my race.

    • @ehabbayoumi4925
      @ehabbayoumi4925 2 роки тому

      @@SinoLegionaire Wow, proud of something you had no control over? Seems legit.

    • @SinoLegionaire
      @SinoLegionaire 2 роки тому

      @@ehabbayoumi4925 It is warranted because our race is not taken seriously, is constantly treated as a laughing stock, and race betraying harlots are making us go extinct.

    • @ehabbayoumi4925
      @ehabbayoumi4925 2 роки тому

      @@SinoLegionaire Okay, you're deff not asian lmao you gotta be some YT troll now... Without a doubt! No asian would ever say something like that.

  • @darcywalker1546
    @darcywalker1546 Рік тому

    First off everyone race has stereotypes so be it positive or negative, you should t let it define you even if others see you like this initially. Everyone judges everyone else on stereotypes until they get to know you. Second, she kept on saying she is Asian American yet the argument was that they don’t see someone as just American. How about she just call herself as American. If everyone said that they were American then maybe there would be a change and everyone would be accepted as American. If everyone is to come together then there has to be common ground. This is one thing that everyone can do is just call themselves American without identifying as something else. People like to segregate themselves by identity politics instead of finding common ground and bringing togetherness. MLK said in his speech, I have a dream, of a time when we all can grab each other hands and shout free at last. This will never happen if people continue to look into the past and feel victims instead of continue to progress and find ways to coexist positively without creating divide and differences. We as a nation have progressed so much and it is a lot better than what it was in the past. Learn from the past don’t live in the past and together people can live, flourish and succeed through hard work, morals and values such as marriage and family and helping one another as the human race and not putting our selves in a category of skin color. Skin color does not define you. Your character does.

  • @asianmelb
    @asianmelb 4 роки тому

    Id like to order 3 fish cake and the fly rice ....

  • @carsonchan5102
    @carsonchan5102 4 роки тому +3

    please stop identifying yourself as an asian-american. you are an human being.
    you deserve basic respect regardless of ethinicity, age, and gender

    • @carsonchan5102
      @carsonchan5102 4 роки тому

      i respect you; of course unless if you are a terrible person

    • @iskdude9922
      @iskdude9922 4 роки тому +2

      No she's an asian american

    • @beactivebehappy9894
      @beactivebehappy9894 2 роки тому

      @@carsonchan5102 The person you were talking about is exactly below your reply lol

  • @atlnla4112
    @atlnla4112 4 роки тому +4

    She misunderstood the “What are you” question. That question (grammatically incorrectly asked) is commonly simply a way of finding out a person’s ethnicity. The question should not have been seen as a discriminatory question, but rather of curiosity about her ethnicity. Basically the question was “Are you Chinese, Korean, Japanese, or some other Asian descent?”

    • @rachellee1266
      @rachellee1266 4 роки тому +3

      I agree. But at the same time I wonder how a European American would react if asked the same question. It makes sense in the context of asking an Asian American because that is a question we are used to. But if that was asked to a European American, of which have just as many different nationalities within them, the question might not be as obvious to them because it's not something that is acceptable to ask. Only the second way of phrasing it would be acceptable.

  • @revconyers4333
    @revconyers4333 6 років тому +1

    The fact that someone coined a phrase , model minority , means you are supposed to live up to it's expectation , screw that and just do your best to please God almighty with your own individual life , that's all that matters!

  • @diosdadoapias
    @diosdadoapias 7 років тому +2

    only for chinese descent notbother asian race

    • @lilywu6208
      @lilywu6208 2 роки тому

      And Japanese and Korean

  • @astrophysx7523
    @astrophysx7523 7 років тому +11

    Being the speaker of a TED talk doesn't exactly help with your argument...

  • @shivammore6953
    @shivammore6953 3 роки тому

    I don't know why but she deliberately or not but she show Indians in statistics as they're lot richer than other asians . Whatever race has nothing to do with money because there poor Indian Americans who will face problem because of such statistics .

  • @nicolelee2230
    @nicolelee2230 4 роки тому +2

    honestly, im sick of all the asian stereotypes going around.

    • @shivammore6953
      @shivammore6953 3 роки тому +1

      You can happily leave country

    • @nicolelee2230
      @nicolelee2230 3 роки тому +1

      @@shivammore6953 ??

    • @ehabbayoumi4925
      @ehabbayoumi4925 2 роки тому +2

      @@shivammore6953 He has every right to be sick of whatever he's sick of. Also, you telling him to leave the country is pretty fascist and neo-nationalistic... How are y'all (Right-Wing/Alt-Right) going to talk about "freedom of speech" and then tell people to leave the country who don't agree with you?

  • @daniraving8610
    @daniraving8610 6 років тому

    American dream or a continual discriminated dream.

  • @johnattincan4190
    @johnattincan4190 3 роки тому

    Asians number 1 we're so cool

  • @anonymousanonymous2319
    @anonymousanonymous2319 3 роки тому +1

    Asian is too broad, as an asian I hate the term. Why should 4 billion people in one continent be classified as one?
    In the USA for example, Chinese and Indian families do better than whites. Not ALL asians. Generally people think of oriental people when people say asian but it's more than that.
    Mainland China, Japan and Korea weren't colonised by european powers (yes HK and Macau were). Most of Asia was but not all asians are viewed the same way. There is no 'asian' model shut up

  • @jessica2575
    @jessica2575 4 роки тому

    Thanks for ruining stuff Ronald Regan

  • @wanglee21
    @wanglee21 3 роки тому

    It's sad that none of these videos have ever gone viral even after covid hate against Asians.

  • @blaby4ever
    @blaby4ever 2 роки тому +1

    50% was about Asian (in-group) income between Asians. 50% was about racism. 0% was on the model minority.

    • @dpatra7081
      @dpatra7081 2 роки тому

      Exactly. Still not sure what the myth is exactly lol

    • @diminie_chimket
      @diminie_chimket 3 дні тому

      So you didn't listen. Got it.

  • @tomorrowland6423
    @tomorrowland6423 4 роки тому +4

    I wasn’t going to comment on this-even after reading some of the most vile spewing hateful comments against African-American people. But that was before I listened to the video in its entirety. And just as I thought, yep she headed in the exact direction I thought she would…and a little further. So I must say a little something.
    "How do you object to stereotypes that sound like compliments?" You can’t. ...And you don’t. ...And Asians haven't. And that’s the rub. Who in their right minds would? Especially when it affords you such high esteem and thus high placement and access in society. Asians are at the top in the schools and therefore hired more. Employers go hunting for Asians more than any other group, besides Caucasians. I can’t help but think, then what’s their problem? I see none. The “Model Minority Myth” works in Asians' favor; and it’s not a myth. Asian are at the top of the employment scale because they have proved that they are so very competent in pretty much everything they do. Do Asians have some people who are not high achievers? Sure. Just as she's stating here. And those who've chosen to live in the States, for the most part, know and understand exactly why this is so. Which is why now, on behalf of the Chinese community, really, she's trying to make a case for asking Government spending for them, while masking it on whole as an Asian thing. However, "Heavy is the head that wears the crown." So, continue to wear it proudly and demonstrate once again your ability to creatively think your way out of this perceived bad situation, in order to improve the lives of your "under achievers", without the use of comparisons of African-Africans in order to now unashamedly get subsistence from Public Dole/Government tax spending/welfare, food stamps, housing and the like. I wish she hadn't have brought African-American's into their squabble. We certainly don't and can't compare. The reason behind Asian poverty and African-American poverty are not the same. They are "two horses of a different color".

  • @whitleypedia
    @whitleypedia 3 роки тому +2

    Desperate to get some grievance points aren't you

  • @hellokitty8552
    @hellokitty8552 6 років тому +2

    her stats seem off..

  • @lecruset
    @lecruset 3 роки тому +1

    The irony of her pointing to the disparities of varying ethnicity groups among Asians. So it would seem that even among Asian Americans the biggest indicator of economic success is not based upon race but education and work ethic. For instance, the Hmong (37% have a high school education), versus Japanese (98% higher education); seems like education and not ethnicity is the determinant for higher income.

    • @EugeneTChu
      @EugeneTChu 3 роки тому +4

      The actual reason is the history of the groups. Japanese immigrants have been in US since early 20th century. Hmong refugees arrived late after Vietnam War in 1970s. Japanese have had head start with assimilation attempts while Hmong still struggle with poverty due to struggles to remain in school while caring for family members

  • @thetelemarkdaydream8896
    @thetelemarkdaydream8896 6 років тому +3

    Asian privilege is extremely prevalent in public schools. This transfers directly into the work force.

    • @juliewang5505
      @juliewang5505 6 років тому

      that is so true

    • @volitionluvr
      @volitionluvr 6 років тому +5

      There is no such thing as “Asian privilege”. Please take the time to research the demographic among poverty rates, casting within mainstream movie industries, employment records, and poverty rates among all Asian groups. You will find that you are very mistaken.

    • @manasareddy3640
      @manasareddy3640 4 роки тому +4

      The privilege they enjoy is due to sheer hard work. You don’t see Asians looting stores during hurricanes like some others! Not even the poor ones, not even back home!

  • @freedomofspeech75
    @freedomofspeech75 6 років тому

    Nothing wrong with stereotype ! just don't force yourself into it . It has to come naturally with skill and training.
    ask yourself this :
    "winning in summer olympic 4x100 free relay in swimming" is american stereotype ? don't fall into it ?

  • @kay8x
    @kay8x Рік тому

    Don care

  • @user-ie8qf9tv9x
    @user-ie8qf9tv9x 3 роки тому

    Dear Asians, is it also SO HARD for you to study math like us?

    • @3flyte_3flyte
      @3flyte_3flyte 10 місяців тому

      It was. I needed glasses but couldn't afford them as a kid.

  • @tatriceshipp9139
    @tatriceshipp9139 5 років тому +1

    Just like African American

  • @BitchChocker
    @BitchChocker 7 років тому +2

    She's absolutely right....model minority, when you see some Asians collect recyclables to make ends meet

    • @cherrilynnlelezhang3856
      @cherrilynnlelezhang3856 7 років тому +2

      Europa Man I guess you shouldn't be in the us either just leave it to the native Americans

    • @uncommercialtraveller4057
      @uncommercialtraveller4057 7 років тому +1

      Bitch Chocker There's bottom feeders in every race. However, the Blacks have much more bottom feeders than East Asians do. Do you see any Blacks collecting garbage to make extra cash? No.

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 4 роки тому

      It depends where u live too....

  • @sharonavictoria7155
    @sharonavictoria7155 3 роки тому

    LANGUAGE🤑 First of all indigenous blacks aren't minorities or immigrants 📌

  • @brandenleeyang22
    @brandenleeyang22 6 років тому

    Hmong isnt asian i know this because im hmong

    • @xvsen88
      @xvsen88 5 років тому

      steve beineke maybe he thought He is too smart than anyone else

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 4 роки тому

      Wow man i've never met a hmong person that said they wern't asians come on man don't be like those philipinos lol

    • @alee6966
      @alee6966 3 роки тому

      I’m 3 years late..
      BUT you apparently DON’T know very much!!
      How old are you anyway??
      7 ?? 10 years old??
      Hmong/ Miao people are one of the largest ethnic group in China.
      Yes we Hmongs are East Asian!
      Some only migrated to Southeast Asia because the Chinese Emperors were forcing everyone in China to say they are Chinese.
      Many Hmongs assimilated & became Chinese.
      40% of our Hmong language that we speak today is mandarin.
      Anyways, grow up & go learn about your history!

  • @lovesonmyside2184
    @lovesonmyside2184 6 років тому +5

    Why does she have Pull African Americans in it, smmh

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 4 роки тому +1

      Whats wrong with that, them facts hurt u in some way?

    • @ehabbayoumi4925
      @ehabbayoumi4925 2 роки тому

      @@athipot6095 sometimes it can be obsessive and weird.

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 2 роки тому

      @@ehabbayoumi4925 yea this shouldn't even be a problem in the first place

  • @harbinger9072
    @harbinger9072 6 років тому +13

    These Ted talks...
    It's like us white people are some advanced race of Aliens to be studied and reacted to by the Earthlings...

  • @Ossiecraft
    @Ossiecraft 4 роки тому +1

    she should check her asian priveledge

    • @EugeneTChu
      @EugeneTChu 3 роки тому

      1. Correct spelling is "privilege"
      2. While Asians do not have socioeconomic issues of poverty like Blacks and Hispanics, they still face discrimination. One analogy is anti-Semitism where middle class majority harbors jealousy and behaves in passive-aggressive manner to minority despite assimilation efforts

  • @PerciusLive
    @PerciusLive 7 років тому

    Its sad how this is still a thing. It should just be a joke at this point like playing the "race card" when something goes wrong in all the right ways to make it funny

  • @Huvrkrft
    @Huvrkrft 5 років тому

    I hate ted talk but she’s kind of cute

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 4 роки тому +1

      It's not healthy to lie to yourself 99

  • @sandhun1
    @sandhun1 4 роки тому

    1st world peoples problems

  • @t.thomas6967
    @t.thomas6967 6 років тому +1

    Then stop calling yourself Asian- Americans. Just put any energy into it.

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 4 роки тому +1

      That's right they are americans like the rest of us

  • @fee1776
    @fee1776 6 років тому

    Older generations of Chinese Americans of the past wished that American recognized Chinese were smart people and not the sick man of Asia. In the 1950's Chinese stereotype was either laundry man or runs a small chop suey take out. One way Chinese Americans fought bigotry and prejudice was academic and economical achievement. It was a generational struggle. My father never finished HS, both parents ran a laundry mat in the 1950's in suburbia NJ. Four of his kids went to state college. No Ivy League schools. Two of his sons served in the US military as officers thru the ROTC program as a way to pay for college. His only grandson just graduated with honors from RIT and employed as an electrical engineer. Maybe his great grand children will build on this and be the first to get advanced degrees. Most Asian Americans have achieved this reputation and now the American colleges and culture are trying to discourage it? Ms Li, stop feeling guilty. There is no shame in this reputation. Learn to use it to your advantage to seek economic opportunities that many in this country do not have.

    • @athipot6095
      @athipot6095 4 роки тому

      U see none has anything to say to this comment lol what a bunch of haters....

  • @kookaichanda5717
    @kookaichanda5717 7 років тому +1

    The few whites in China were treated quite well only because there are so few of them. They are never perceived as a threat socially or economically and therefore be treated civilly. Racial tension is inevitable in USA because the African Hispanic minority is growing faster and White Americans' majority is eroding. The juicing technology jobs in Silicon valley are taken up by well-trained Indians. The union blue collar whites no longer enjoy clearly superior economic prestige. It is all in the numbers. Had there been more Asians in the US, this so called model minority myth will not be perpetuated.

    • @kates8649
      @kates8649 7 років тому +2

      Asians have many different people. They are not same. Because Asia is huge. Look at map: North Asia, Northeast Asia, Southeast Asia, South Asia, and West Asia. For example, northeast asians are minitory in USA except chineses. I dont see many koreans or japaneses both schools and work places. I know that many Southeast asians & south asians really hate northeast asians due to different culture and appearance. We are unique as northeast Asians. I also heard that Americans like more south asians and Southeast asians like Filipino, because their culture is closer to western culture. not much unique unlike Japan or Korea.

    • @kookaichanda5717
      @kookaichanda5717 7 років тому +1

      "The latest(as of 2013) census numbers show: The population younger than 5 stood at 49.9 percent minority in 2012.
      For the first time in more than a century, the number of deaths now exceeds births among white Americans. "
      (usnews.newsvine.com/_news/2013/06/13/18934111-census-white-majority-in-us-gone-by-2043)
      So the current sentiment of the white population is not unexpected. If real political power is not gathered by all Asians, the fate of native Americans(who went from majority hosts status to the current "nations") and the African blacks(who fared better but were captured, humiliated, and traded) might just be around the corner. The Chinese Exclusion Act was repealed by the Magnuson Act only in 1943 after 60+ years.
      The so called model minority is just a gambit. You are painted into a corner having to work harder for less.

    • @lilywu6208
      @lilywu6208 2 роки тому

      @@kates8649 in USA,people think Asian is Chinese, and Chinese includes Japanese and Korean,. Compare to Chinese, Korean is nothing

  • @adwe9912
    @adwe9912 4 роки тому +3

    Asians aren’t the model minority .... then proceeds to give impeccable speech. Haha

  • @transon6655
    @transon6655 4 роки тому

    everyone is a victim even asian. Lets see who wins the victim race

    • @khav11
      @khav11 3 роки тому

      blacks are the gold specialist

    • @ehabbayoumi4925
      @ehabbayoumi4925 2 роки тому +1

      @@khav11 you guys are obsessed with us