Thanks for fixing the Asteroids Game. As a youth in the eighties my mother would take me my sister and the two neighbor kids who she babysat to a laundry mat called the Wishy Washy. There they had an Asteroids and a Mr. Do. So this video brought back good memories.
That asteroids cleaned up nicely, great job Joey that's money in the bank. Can't wait to see you guys working on the other treasures in your stockpile. I bet those juke boxes are gorgeous when you get them lit up and back in working condition. Hearing and watching that game play brought back a flood of fond memories and I'm sure I am not the only one, most of the time when you see one of these it has been played so much the buttons board is abused and burnt from people putting cigarettes on them while playing, this one is really nice like it aged gracefully in someone's private collection dusty but loved..
Thanks for the tour of other side of the store. Really interesting. I would love to see your storage area some day. Look forward to seeing you fix those old games.
too many projects you make money off of is not a bad problem to have, room full of treasure if you ask me, not to mention it means no shortage of these kinds of videos as i do really enjoy seeing them brought back.
Nice Job Joe! That game cleaned up real nice. It was fun to see the collection of games that you boys have that are just waiting for their turn to be revived and played again. 😃
Enjoyed the tour. I loved those old EM shooting machines in the arcade back in the day. The Asteroids Deluxe turned out fantastic! Thanks for filming it.
Yea I had a AD monitor intermittently working and decided to reflow everything on the monitor and recap it and it looks perfect and brand new again. Had sound issues too. Replaced the Pokey and LM324 I believe and that solved all my sound issues. Since the cab is nearly mint and I only paid $150 for it, I splooged for the new blacklight background which really pops compared to the faded original.
I just restored one last summer. All original on the inside when i got it. I made the ouside look brand new again. Turned out amazing. I always did love the graphics , especially the lit marquee.
Never really been into jukeboxes. I rebuilt an Asteroids deluxe cabinet a while ago, that was fun. Dead OP-amps dead ROMs busted oscillator, nuked power supply. But it was great getting it going again, one of my favourites.
Hi Joe, thanks for the tour. Just a suggestion for the games that are stopping after amount of certain time. Maybe get a infrared thermal camera to see what part(s) are over heating for electronics work one with a macro lens really helps. There are lots of review videos on YT. It can be a stand alone camera or a add on to a smartphone. Of course it can be used for other things like finding where cold or hot air is entering your home etc.
So the sounds are made by a couple of shift registers and logic gates. That's called a Linear Feedback Shift Register circuit, which is a type of pseudorandom number generator. It is pseudorandom as it starts the same way each time and has the exact same sequence of numbers. What I see is that an XOR gate and a NAND gate are what give the feedback to the shift registers. In this case, the combined logic is that of an XNOR gate. That's a bit convoluted to see because logic is being made from other logic (twice, actually). The NAND labeled N4 has both inputs wired together. That forms an inverter (NOT gate). If you invert an XOR, that is XNOR. That is an "identity" function, meaning that you get a 1 only if both inputs are the same, and a 0 if they are the opposite. XNOR is good for an LFSR since using XNOR means you don't have to seed the PRNG. If XOR was used as the feedback from the 2 shift register outputs to feed a new bit constructed from those into the input, it would never start on its own. If you XOR 2 of the same bit, you get 0. So just starting, you'd XOR 2 0's and get 0, and putting the same thing back into the shift register wouldn't help. An XOR-based LFSR would latch up if the seed is 0 and never change values. But if you XNOR them, the 2 zeros form a one (they are the same). Then that one is inserted as the clock advances the shift register a place to the left. I am not 100% sure, but an XNOR shift register can never reach 255 (assuming 8 bits), and if by chance you could somehow get that, it would latch it up. But repeatedly having numbers 0-254 in a scrambled order would be useful enough. In this case, not all the outputs of the shift registers are used and one feeds the other. It seems that one bit that goes to the XNOR area from the first shift register is used again from the 2nd one a little later (maybe 8 cycles). The 12 KHz signal is what clocks the shift register. There's also a latch and a NOR gate. Since one of the inputs to the NOR gate is a 12 KHz clock signal, I'd assume that's used as some sort of filter. Then the output of the NOR clocks a latch to sample the "noise" signal. Maybe it is done that way since there could be leakage of the clock into the audio, so the same clock and logic are used to delete those pulses.
What a beautiful restoration, would love to own one! I've been eyeing off that Super Mario Bros Pinball of yours for years now! They clean up real nice, and look exquisite with a LED conversion! Get on it peoples!
The game brings back all the anxiety I had playing back in the day. The sound effects made me so nervous that I made stupid errors all the time. Great job. 👽
I have that exact same skill stop Chinese Safari game. I've never seen it hit the 3 Safari tickets, but it sure goes ape crap crazy when you hit the other mini jackpots. Just make sure it's full of tokens because it'll empty itself. Someday, I'll hit the 3 safari tickets. Love the videos and repairs. Keep up the good work
Asty Deeeeluxue! A beautiful looking machine. Good luck with those many missions! I find a magic eraser a little too harsh sometimes. I still like using a toothbrush and either iospropanol or toothpaste on CPO's. Not as quick but give it a go.
Another triumph! I'm in the home stretch on an original Asteroids. Game works now. Recapped the monitor but you can see the scan line between all drawn objects. Brightness/contrast adjust has no effect! That is the only problem remaining!
probably something wrong with the z axis control. had one that transistor tested good but its gain was out of spec and cranked all outputs high. (on the board)
Awesome movie that, love watching the thing, have watched it quite a few times over the last 20yrs. There is a 2nd one that was released last year I believe, haven't watched that yet though.
If you think Windex works good get you a can of Sprayway Glass Cleaner give it a try see what you think. I have found better results with a lot less elbow grease no worries about damaging any surfaces 😊 Enjoyed the video always brings back a lot of good memories seeing these old Arcade Games and Pinball Machines
@LyonsArcade I see I haven't had any problems with the tips but understand if you are why you wouldn't want to use it. Sprayway just cuts grime so much better it's worth the extra cost to me I just thought I would mention it incase you hadn't tried it 😊
At some point you should go pull the Cheyenne game out. That would be a fun game to see bring back to life I play that quite a bit back in the day. 👍. I used to restore games as a hobby back in the day and I had a two-car garage full of projects that I said I would get to at some point and I never did so I had to sell 3/4 of the games to a collector locally. Someday turned into 5 years and at that point it's time for them to go. The only regret I have with that is I wish I didn't sell my star castle. When I bought that game I bought it for $250 and the only thing wrong with it is it was playing blind. Once I got that game home I fixed it within an hour. The only thing wrong with that was the fly back for the monitor . I acquired Brand New Old stock Cinematronics flyback's about 10 years ago for $50 a piece and I still have over two dozen of them left. At some point I'm going to find some Cinematronics games and I'm going to go ahead and fix them if that's the issue with them. Still looking for another Star Castle.
Hey Ron and Joe, great content as usual. It was my retail therapy session on Amazon this evening (UK) and I had a 2.5L ultrasonic cleaner in my basket already......I then remembered you guys and I used your Amazon link (UK) to finish the purchase. Did it still give you your cut doing it that way around ? I'm just interested to know if one can put things in the shopping basket and then go to your specific Amazon link to cash out. Otherwise I'll need to be more conscious next time.
I have two Asteroids Deluxe. Both probably same or better shape. Mine buzz a bit too. Not too bad though. I trying to perfect the monitor overlay, (the blue thing). Can't find anymore. I wish someone made the tint thing that attaches to the cardboard. But it can be duplicated kind of with window film if you find the right color. :)
@@eDoc2020 Thanks, I don't know much about Linear Feedback Shift Registers. I know shift registers will shift the serial data the 0s & 1s shifting them either to the left or right, but not sure what the linear feedback does to the shift register?
Im not tech wiz at all, but the sprint 2 sounds like its over heating. Installing a fan or adding more cool airflow may solve it. It also may be capacitor....
I was born in Charleston WV, I moved to California and lived there until I was 8, then we moved back to West Virginia, Joey was born then, and when Joey was 3 we moved to Charlotte
Wow! A rekkin we'r about the same age, cept I was born in/lived in rural northern GA then to southern CA about age 9, then all around the far corners of the u.s. in for the past few decades. (I've gotten into language/dialect in the past decade) There's a few things that you both tend to say "Whenever" for (at the time of) rather than the normal english use, that comes from scotland/northern ireland via appalachia.@@LyonsArcade
oooo the amount of salt in the beginning has me worried about the overall blood pressure at the shop. (kidding, love to hear the real problems that really happen in the real world)
Pi Position board. Raspberry Pi’s are susceptible to overheating, and electrical noise. Some are just bad .. it’s a cheap single board computer, not easily, or not usually practical to repair.
this particular one uses a pi board mounted to it, we tried a different pi on it too, and it works fine but after awhile just switches randomly to other games.... some kind of electrical noise problem in the cabinet or something. My gut is to always just fix the original stuff but everybody loves the new tech, usually it doesn't work as well... on this particular game though, it's very hard to fix the original boards.
Hay Joe I live in the UK and love watching your videos I have a space invaders arcade machine was working good but now glitch bad do you have and email address so I can send you a picture of my problem and also I picked up and really old arcade machine I have never seen one like it before I would love to send you some pictures of it
Thanks for fixing the Asteroids Game. As a youth in the eighties my mother would take me my sister and the two neighbor kids who she babysat to a laundry mat called the Wishy Washy. There they had an Asteroids and a Mr. Do. So this video brought back good memories.
That asteroids cleaned up nicely, great job Joey that's money in the bank. Can't wait to see you guys working on the other treasures in your stockpile. I bet those juke boxes are gorgeous when you get them lit up and back in working condition. Hearing and watching that game play brought back a flood of fond memories and I'm sure I am not the only one, most of the time when you see one of these it has been played so much the buttons board is abused and burnt from people putting cigarettes on them while playing, this one is really nice like it aged gracefully in someone's private collection dusty but loved..
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it
Thanks for the tour of other side of the store. Really interesting. I would love to see your storage area some day. Look forward to seeing you fix those old games.
too many projects you make money off of is not a bad problem to have, room full of treasure if you ask me, not to mention it means no shortage of these kinds of videos as i do really enjoy seeing them brought back.
Agreed..I got a boxful of Sega Master systems in my wardrobe which I think are broke..but I'll see if Joe can look at em..see if they really ARE broke
16:56 That's one great pinball machine called Funhouse in the back. Get that one up and goin' guys!
There is something about 8bit sound effects that always perks me up like i was when i was single-digit aged Human. :) Good stuff
Nice Job Joe! That game cleaned up real nice. It was fun to see the collection of games that you boys have that are just waiting for their turn to be revived and played again. 😃
Nice work lads. One famous old arcade game, working just like new. Looks good and plays good.
Enjoyed the tour. I loved those old EM shooting machines in the arcade back in the day. The Asteroids Deluxe turned out fantastic! Thanks for filming it.
Yea I had a AD monitor intermittently working and decided to reflow everything on the monitor and recap it and it looks perfect and brand new again. Had sound issues too. Replaced the Pokey and LM324 I believe and that solved all my sound issues. Since the cab is nearly mint and I only paid $150 for it, I splooged for the new blacklight background which really pops compared to the faded original.
I see the Funhouse, FREE RUDY!!😁
I just restored one last summer. All original on the inside when i got it. I made the ouside look brand new again. Turned out amazing. I always did love the graphics , especially the lit marquee.
Never really been into jukeboxes. I rebuilt an Asteroids deluxe cabinet a while ago, that was fun. Dead OP-amps dead ROMs busted oscillator, nuked power supply. But it was great getting it going again, one of my favourites.
It would be cool to see all these in the window while walking down the street. Thank you for the tour.
Hi Joe, thanks for the tour. Just a suggestion for the games that are stopping after amount of certain time. Maybe get a infrared thermal camera to see what part(s) are over heating for electronics work one with a macro lens really helps. There are lots of review videos on YT. It can be a stand alone camera or a add on to a smartphone. Of course it can be used for other things like finding where cold or hot air is entering your home etc.
Yes I've been meaning to get one of those, Thanks
That was a nice touch to see you wiping away the glass. It looks like you're painting on the artwork back on. That's a super clean Asteroids Deluxe.
I am loving all those old jukeboxes. I have 2 of my own to be restored when I get the time.
Probably the cleanest Asteroids Deluxe I ever saw, stunner :)
So the sounds are made by a couple of shift registers and logic gates. That's called a Linear Feedback Shift Register circuit, which is a type of pseudorandom number generator. It is pseudorandom as it starts the same way each time and has the exact same sequence of numbers.
What I see is that an XOR gate and a NAND gate are what give the feedback to the shift registers. In this case, the combined logic is that of an XNOR gate. That's a bit convoluted to see because logic is being made from other logic (twice, actually). The NAND labeled N4 has both inputs wired together. That forms an inverter (NOT gate). If you invert an XOR, that is XNOR. That is an "identity" function, meaning that you get a 1 only if both inputs are the same, and a 0 if they are the opposite.
XNOR is good for an LFSR since using XNOR means you don't have to seed the PRNG. If XOR was used as the feedback from the 2 shift register outputs to feed a new bit constructed from those into the input, it would never start on its own. If you XOR 2 of the same bit, you get 0. So just starting, you'd XOR 2 0's and get 0, and putting the same thing back into the shift register wouldn't help. An XOR-based LFSR would latch up if the seed is 0 and never change values. But if you XNOR them, the 2 zeros form a one (they are the same). Then that one is inserted as the clock advances the shift register a place to the left. I am not 100% sure, but an XNOR shift register can never reach 255 (assuming 8 bits), and if by chance you could somehow get that, it would latch it up. But repeatedly having numbers 0-254 in a scrambled order would be useful enough.
In this case, not all the outputs of the shift registers are used and one feeds the other. It seems that one bit that goes to the XNOR area from the first shift register is used again from the 2nd one a little later (maybe 8 cycles). The 12 KHz signal is what clocks the shift register.
There's also a latch and a NOR gate. Since one of the inputs to the NOR gate is a 12 KHz clock signal, I'd assume that's used as some sort of filter. Then the output of the NOR clocks a latch to sample the "noise" signal. Maybe it is done that way since there could be leakage of the clock into the audio, so the same clock and logic are used to delete those pulses.
Nice one
Cool collection too
What a beautiful restoration, would love to own one! I've been eyeing off that Super Mario Bros Pinball of yours for years now! They clean up real nice, and look exquisite with a LED conversion! Get on it peoples!
The game brings back all the anxiety I had playing back in the day. The sound effects made me so nervous that I made stupid errors all the time. Great job. 👽
As always ..a top notch 5 star repair job !
Ha Joe. Loved playing the EM shooter game back in to day but never see them any more. Great you are going to get them going again. 👍😁👍. Bob
I have that exact same skill stop Chinese Safari game. I've never seen it hit the 3 Safari tickets, but it sure goes ape crap crazy when you hit the other mini jackpots. Just make sure it's full of tokens because it'll empty itself.
Someday, I'll hit the 3 safari tickets.
Love the videos and repairs. Keep up the good work
Very nice! Thx for sharing guys! 👏
wow nice game and vivid
colors to after a nice clean.
👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
The sprint 2 is my favorite driver
Asty Deeeeluxue! A beautiful looking machine. Good luck with those many missions! I find a magic eraser a little too harsh sometimes. I still like using a toothbrush and either iospropanol or toothpaste on CPO's. Not as quick but give it a go.
Another triumph! I'm in the home stretch on an original Asteroids. Game works now. Recapped the monitor but you can see the scan line between all drawn objects. Brightness/contrast adjust has no effect! That is the only problem remaining!
probably something wrong with the z axis control. had one that transistor tested good but its gain was out of spec and cranked all outputs high. (on the board)
@@robertlipsett2535 thanks! I do know it's isolated to the monitor board since the previous CPU board was doing the same thing
I would love to have any of those broken ones for a project
at first, I thought the side art of that pitch and bat was a guy shining a flashlight into his eyes. once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
Oh now I'm interested in those em shooting games, I want to know how they work
Awesome movie that, love watching the thing, have watched it quite a few times over the last 20yrs. There is a 2nd one that was released last year I believe, haven't watched that yet though.
If you think Windex works good get you a can of Sprayway Glass Cleaner give it a try see what you think. I have found better results with a lot less elbow grease no worries about damaging any surfaces 😊
Enjoyed the video always brings back a lot of good memories seeing these old Arcade Games and Pinball Machines
I like Sprayway also but the tip of the cans get messed up sometimes. We just prefer Windex and you can buy the refill bottles
@LyonsArcade I see I haven't had any problems with the tips but understand if you are why you wouldn't want to use it. Sprayway just cuts grime so much better it's worth the extra cost to me I just thought I would mention it incase you hadn't tried it 😊
Stoners Invisible Glass FTW!
wow so many!!!!!
C'mon guys! You can't just leave those great pins just sitting back there! Let get them fixed! 😃
At some point you should go pull the Cheyenne game out. That would be a fun game to see bring back to life I play that quite a bit back in the day. 👍. I used to restore games as a hobby back in the day and I had a two-car garage full of projects that I said I would get to at some point and I never did so I had to sell 3/4 of the games to a collector locally. Someday turned into 5 years and at that point it's time for them to go. The only regret I have with that is I wish I didn't sell my star castle. When I bought that game I bought it for $250 and the only thing wrong with it is it was playing blind. Once I got that game home I fixed it within an hour. The only thing wrong with that was the fly back for the monitor . I acquired Brand New Old stock Cinematronics flyback's about 10 years ago for $50 a piece and I still have over two dozen of them left. At some point I'm going to find some Cinematronics games and I'm going to go ahead and fix them if that's the issue with them. Still looking for another Star Castle.
oooooh i see a Funhouse pinball
Hey Ron and Joe, great content as usual. It was my retail therapy session on Amazon this evening (UK) and I had a 2.5L ultrasonic cleaner in my basket already......I then remembered you guys and I used your Amazon link (UK) to finish the purchase. Did it still give you your cut doing it that way around ? I'm just interested to know if one can put things in the shopping basket and then go to your specific Amazon link to cash out. Otherwise I'll need to be more conscious next time.
Unfortunately it's not on there, I think they look for any reason not to pay :) Thanks for thinking of us, however!
Is that the Pole position with the Pi Position that you did previously in a video?
Break rocks!
I have two Asteroids Deluxe. Both probably same or better shape. Mine buzz a bit too. Not too bad though. I trying to perfect the monitor overlay, (the blue thing). Can't find anymore. I wish someone made the tint thing that attaches to the cardboard. But it can be duplicated kind of with window film if you find the right color. :)
I'm surprised they never made a repro. I mean, they make the entire black light background, why not the film piece...
Is it fine test an asteroids deluxe arcade pcb in an asteroid cabinet?
It will work but the sound will sound off, and the screen will be flipped upside down
@@LyonsArcade ok, after further looking at the pcb it looks like a resistor is bad so I’ll need to fix it before testing
the old Classic
JOES, What does that R8 chip LS164 Parallel out/Serial in Shift Register doing to create the noise sound?
It, combined with the surrounding gates, makes a Linear-feedback shift register. It's a type of random-number generator.
@@eDoc2020 Thanks, I don't know much about Linear Feedback Shift Registers. I know shift registers will shift the serial data the 0s & 1s shifting them either to the left or right, but not sure what the linear feedback does to the shift register?
Alien squadron is missing.
Get Ron on that for part 2.
Im not tech wiz at all, but the sprint 2 sounds like its over heating. Installing a fan or adding more cool airflow may solve it. It also may be capacitor....
Does that use the WG 6100 like space duel?
Do you have a Galaga machine for sale needing repair?
hey, where are the two of y'alls accents from? carolinas? is there a little PA/philly influence in one of your accents?
I was born in Charleston WV, I moved to California and lived there until I was 8, then we moved back to West Virginia, Joey was born then, and when Joey was 3 we moved to Charlotte
Wow! A rekkin we'r about the same age, cept I was born in/lived in rural northern GA then to southern CA about age 9, then all around the far corners of the u.s. in for the past few decades. (I've gotten into language/dialect in the past decade) There's a few things that you both tend to say "Whenever" for (at the time of) rather than the normal english use, that comes from scotland/northern ireland via appalachia.@@LyonsArcade
Hey Joe!!
Hey Jason!
What about those Galaga's? Is there a Galaxian around the shop?
it buzzes like crazy up close
Ya'll got a Renegade arcade game in amongst that lot Joe?😄
Nope not yet
@@LyonsArcade aww ok 😄
Joe have rockola 1000-3, system 3, won't stop at home, but scanning shows it sees home, just won't stop, thus doesn't accept my selections
Ya missed a bit Joey come on man 😉
That Cheyenne tho.....
oooo the amount of salt in the beginning has me worried about the overall blood pressure at the shop. (kidding, love to hear the real problems that really happen in the real world)
Was at the doctor yesterday and Surprisingly my Blood Pressure is pretty good haha thanks for watching
The pi-position is crap.
Pi Position board. Raspberry Pi’s are susceptible to overheating, and electrical noise. Some are just bad .. it’s a cheap single board computer, not easily, or not usually practical to repair.
this particular one uses a pi board mounted to it, we tried a different pi on it too, and it works fine but after awhile just switches randomly to other games.... some kind of electrical noise problem in the cabinet or something. My gut is to always just fix the original stuff but everybody loves the new tech, usually it doesn't work as well... on this particular game though, it's very hard to fix the original boards.
Yodelayheehoo
Hello Lil Everette!
A negative review from Joe on the Pi Position board! Oh dear! Lol
It's Broke!
I KNOW What worng it BROKE
Thanks for not reminding us you didn't have to record this. Your brother gets quite annoying with that.
I didn't have to do that :) You walked right into it
Hay Joe I live in the UK and love watching your videos I have a space invaders arcade machine was working good but now glitch bad do you have and email address so I can send you a picture of my problem and also I picked up and really old arcade machine I have never seen one like it before I would love to send you some pictures of it