bad strategy with Pappas in the front for the first games, he plays better in the back on doubles, and Fred is better in the front. If they started and kept like this all the time the game would ´ve ended sooner. Last game was under total pressure for both, and anything could happen because both teams are tallented.
@@pebolimnaja Look how Stamerra blocked Fred in the last set. That decided the hole match in my opinion. They won 5 to 1 and 5 to 0 with Pappas in front, and made the big mistake to change....
@@giammarinostamerra4910 Did you watch the match?😀 With Pappas upfront they lost teo sets. During 4th set Fred was in front(5:0). Last set was very close. With two forwards of this calibre you can always have this discussion of course, but I dont see a „huge mistake“ here.
+q Haven Someone took a time-out, a strategy piece that's used in most games. In foos you might use it to stop a team who's scoring a lot really quickly to try and derail their momentum or to slow the pace down.
each team is allowed 2 time-outs of 30sec per game. Sometimes you need to calm down yourself and sometimes is a strategy time-out to slow down the opponent
Never really liked playing doubles at all, I am much better one on one, or me against two players. I like to be able to control the whole table myself.
if you are not a professional player that is exactly how it looks, got to agree with you. But if you were playing at a high level you would understand.
The style we play in Italy is totally different, we can't stop or pass the ball before a shot ,also we take advantage of side ramps, which are not included in many European foosball tables, and believe me, our style is much faster.
Just to add some context to your comment. One of the best players in Italy (I think it was Carletta, but I can't be sure) played these two players (Collignon and Pappas) together (as a team) by himself, Italy rules, and beat them. It's on UA-cam. But then, as the story goes by someone who was there, Collignon played Carletta singles, regular ITSF rules and smoked Carletta. It all depends on the rules. Italian rules may be a more 'exciting' game for some. For me, personally, it isn't because Italian rules are too restrictive, removing A LOT of the psychological element out of the game. It's the psychological element that creates the interest for those who know how to play. Faster? Yes, definitely. But, to be honest, it's a game that requires less skill and where 'slop' has a greater influence on the game, which is boring.
@@jasong5913 it wouldn't be Arturo Carletta for sure, he was one of the greatest players on the ITSF circuit for many many years, and was Collignon's regular partner for many of his European championships. Plus like Fred he's Belgian (although originally from Sicily). Here's some film of Fred playing Italian style though.
that pass on 21:10 from billy just indicates of how well those 2 know each other ^^ nice ball to see and brilliant play of billy!
15:31
And 15:27
32:57 for a badass highfive
So good to see them team up.
What is the guy in the background doing? 11:10
he is a Referee.
Haha, looks like he just rolled over a barrier.
28:20
the Luxembourg attacking player didnt go for the 3 touches after the Time Out!! wtf?
Old rules
No one can beat Billy except me !!!
well done, guys!
6:18 :D
best team ever colli and billy
Ti Guay Zhou so why did they loose then?
had a bad day lol
bad strategy with Pappas in the front for the first games, he plays better in the back on doubles, and Fred is better in the front. If they started and kept like this all the time the game would ´ve ended sooner. Last game was under total pressure for both, and anything could happen because both teams are tallented.
@@pebolimnaja Look how Stamerra blocked Fred in the last set. That decided the hole match in my opinion. They won 5 to 1 and 5 to 0 with Pappas in front, and made the big mistake to change....
@@giammarinostamerra4910 Did you watch the match?😀 With Pappas upfront they lost teo sets. During 4th set Fred was in front(5:0). Last set was very close. With two forwards of this calibre you can always have this discussion of course, but I dont see a „huge mistake“ here.
great game
Nice Game !!
why do they stop mid game and walk away and come back?
+q Haven Someone took a time-out, a strategy piece that's used in most games. In foos you might use it to stop a team who's scoring a lot really quickly to try and derail their momentum or to slow the pace down.
each team is allowed 2 time-outs of 30sec per game. Sometimes you need to calm down yourself and sometimes is a strategy time-out to slow down the opponent
I vote for the skinny ones
Never really liked playing doubles at all, I am much better one on one, or me against two players. I like to be able to control the whole table myself.
Its sort of boring
I think this style is pretty slow and boring.Nothing exciting to see.
if you are not a professional player that is exactly how it looks, got to agree with you. But if you were playing at a high level you would understand.
The style we play in Italy is totally different, we can't stop or pass the ball before a shot ,also we take advantage of side ramps, which are not included in many European foosball tables, and believe me, our style is much faster.
you play foosball like italy is. total chaos and no control of anything
Just to add some context to your comment. One of the best players in Italy (I think it was Carletta, but I can't be sure) played these two players (Collignon and Pappas) together (as a team) by himself, Italy rules, and beat them. It's on UA-cam. But then, as the story goes by someone who was there, Collignon played Carletta singles, regular ITSF rules and smoked Carletta.
It all depends on the rules. Italian rules may be a more 'exciting' game for some. For me, personally, it isn't because Italian rules are too restrictive, removing A LOT of the psychological element out of the game. It's the psychological element that creates the interest for those who know how to play. Faster? Yes, definitely. But, to be honest, it's a game that requires less skill and where 'slop' has a greater influence on the game, which is boring.
@@jasong5913 it wouldn't be Arturo Carletta for sure, he was one of the greatest players on the ITSF circuit for many many years, and was Collignon's regular partner for many of his European championships. Plus like Fred he's Belgian (although originally from Sicily). Here's some film of Fred playing Italian style though.