Originally recorded in 2007 (season 2 of TBC). A lot has changed since then (most notably my musical tastes and player skill), but reuploading it for posterity's sake!
Veev thx for sharing these Vids with us! I cant beleive these Times are nearly 10 years ago from now. Brings tears to my eyes! I loved watching your stream back in Mop. Always a pleasure! Thx so much. Greetings from Germany!
My favorite warlock from the TBC days, I still have the original download on my desktop that i downloaded as pvp hype back then. Affliction was the shit back then! If you're the original dude, cheers and thanks for making it!
Holy shit some people in this comment section are ignorant. This is indeed high rated play from TBC, I can 100% guarantee it. The average player was just worse than a barrens plainstrider back in season 2. The warlock (and uploader) even went on to win Blizzcon with Zilea and Valrath as warrior/dk/hpala in wrath with his team "Teh Super Gosus", which is why the comp is called "TSG" in the first place.
ma jo no, he’s terrible.. look at the opponent in the first round (hard cast holy light twice with CoT and no CD used or attempt to fake). He also also devour magic on auto cast, so bad.. his teammate gets sheeped and he can’t anything cuz he doesn’t have a dispel macro
@@majortomsdmf1 nah thats more to do with the bg hes playing on than anything else. if you watch any of the Neilyo vids, or any of Hydras vids, a warlock playing like this wouldnt really ever get rank 1 on the same bg. also watching the clips of Hafu made me wonder why she got so much praise, shes nowhere near Beasteh/Sonny level at all
@@Exata1337 You know nothing lol. In season 2 nobody was good. Season 3 is when people started to get semi decent. A fact that not many people know is that ruin was a good bg because everybody from ruin who went to bg9 dominated bg9. Only the ogs know
the good old days when warlocks were unstoppable during arenas. i also had a warlock arena partner on my rogue at the time. my internet connection went down that summer for like a month or 2. when i came back he was already decked out in arena gear.
important to point out that prices are stupid high so it's not like everybody will walk around with donor gear tho. Still a better option than Excalibur, and that's the only other TBC realm with at least 1k people online.
hey Martin, pls tell me what are the best pvp classes on warmane, and races, I would like to play warlock(which one is beter)/mage(frost or fire)/ret pally
Yo, Veev! Do you still keep up with this channel? If so, and you see this comment. Where can I find your hunter arena montage from patch 2.0.1?? The one that was on google videos. (pre-TBC patch)
for real, I havent played wow since wrath, but this guy was on my server on Medivh and he was on the best 3v3 and 5v5 in the toughest battlegroup every season, they legit destroyed everyone, they had some druid named furioni or something that was ridiculous, I remember this video and being put onto all this music I'd never heard, stop the hating
I've always wondered, how did alliance warlocks deal with UD teams? I'm a gnome warlock and I'm worried about undead teams. Especially since I'll most likely be running a rogue/lock buddy of mine.
@@SbkzorTV Do you notice that video proves that Smolderforge, deathside, warmane were all scripted incorrectly when it comes to devour magic. On private servers it will not use devour magic when its on auto cast if there is not buffs on the person. This video clearly shows the felhunter is supposed to spam purge even if there are no buffs on the target if its set on auto cast..... Fixing this on private servers would be a nice buff to disc priest and other classes who get destroyed by purges.... please help spread make TBC private servers notice and understand this
@@nicholasarsenian342 No it does not. This is from the time, where Detect Magic was nessecary to see enemy buffs. The Felhunter can not cast it if the target has no buffs. And it will only heal itself, if it actually devours a buff. The reason the FH keeps it on cooldown is: Hots. I played in Vanilla, TBC, Wotlk, Cata and Legion as a Warlock, and now: I play warlock again in classic.
@@bass-dc9175 is right, you needed Detect Magic to see enemy buffs until patch 2.3 and this video was recorded during season 2, wich was before 2.3 released
Veev, a long long time ago you had a video on google video where you did arenas with your t3 hunter 1v3ing people. I cannot find it anywhere, if you do have it can you please upload it? ...still remember your and ryan's duels below naxx in vanilla, medivh represent
I keep trying to find this video too. One of my favorite vanilla pvp videos. It was back during Naxx prepatch before TBC when arenas first came out. Vanilla Medivh represent - Fury The Transcendant Eightbreaker Teagan Kalahad.... Miss those days :O
that skill cap! i came looking for what it will be like on my lock but i dont think ill face as many other locks playing VOIDWALKER in arena! xD 3:10 "OH! Someones behind me!" loool great he's just channeling some dumb crap, lemme fear him for music drop xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxD omg sits at full health without tapping with so much steady health coming in... im so excited i hope this quality stays the same like it's stayed in classic
Back in TBC wow times used to do mass pvp on Tarren Mill EU - Aid Somalia we had top rank among EU in PVP horde, by ratings / gear :D. I cant really remember top ally teams back in times, i guess horde had top 1-10 ranks 2v2 and 1-5ranks 3v3 ±. BTW you had only one action bar tab, i wonder how you can rush to 2k+ rating on retail with it .
I get that arena was still new and undeveloped, but still have to constructively comment here: Death Coil usage wasn't really used at key moments. Being an instant cast 3 second CC with a 2-3 min cooldown, it should be better placed, either when going for a kill or for defense when you're taking it hard, not just a casual CC. That being said, I understand this is early arena and I get that arena wasn't as developed as it was in later seasons. Thanks for the upload regardless!
I was deeply into arena back in TBC - this must be a 1600ish rating at the end of TBC right? I remember people with shoulders and weapons being MUCH more skilled when rating were required for gear.
Is unstable affliction spec viable in S1? Or does it become more viable with more resilience in later seasons as I suspect? SL/SL is good, but boring. UA lock is obviously viable haha, just when?
before saying it's not rank1 or anything... remember that in thoses days... realms was grouped per 4 for PvP... and some servers was older than other (and more skilled^^). If his realm was recent (open when TBC launched) and grouped with some other recent servers... nothing strange in seeing rank1 ppl backpedaling and other newbish things.
People talk soo much about "skill level" Back then you didnt have almost any info on shit. You had to figure out everything by youself. Today you can ready everything and copy everything you ever think of. Soo dont talk of skill lvl when all of your skills came from some guide that some dude od girl posted on internet. I miss old days when you had to learn by youself and that joy. I remember spending hours in front of dummy testing and practicing dps and shit when you get new set of gear or little more haste and shit just to see what is better and to make it perfect. Today you just go on some site spend 10-20 min reading and gg you are "pro". And with addons that tell you everything on enemy team and bosses or rotation and shit. Dont talk shit .And sry for the bad eng:)
This is the skill levels people were at back then, this video was uploaded and discussed on arenajunkies back in september 2007. www.arenajunkies.com/topic/535-veex-warlock-video/
Dude wasnt skillful at all sl/sl lock was the most broken spec ever in world of warcraft it was like fighting a raid boss dot run away and heal from siphon life easiest spec ever
@@aranahjohnson9640 had to do way more back then.. cover hunter traps with hunters mark.. 10x more variables .. im a 2500+ player every season since wotlk .. now its just cd trading with a 3 button rotation thats it ..
Who’s here hoping classic rolls over to bc?!!?!??
it will
I m not one who played classic, i enjoyed bc though.
Ashtar Vrillon I done quit lol. Blizz is running it towards the ground, games gonna be dead by bc
@King Luther how is that? Game is deader than a nail
@King Luther oh you mean those bots? Or 75% of the population being mages that farm gold to resell for cash? Lol open ur eyes you degenerate
Veev thx for sharing these Vids with us! I cant beleive these Times are nearly 10 years ago from now. Brings tears to my eyes! I loved watching your stream back in Mop. Always a pleasure! Thx so much. Greetings from Germany!
MC Veev player for warrior, not warlock... no?
My favorite warlock from the TBC days, I still have the original download on my desktop that i downloaded as pvp hype back then. Affliction was the shit back then! If you're the original dude, cheers and thanks for making it!
Love seeing these old videos, so nostalgic!
Holy shit some people in this comment section are ignorant. This is indeed high rated play from TBC, I can 100% guarantee it. The average player was just worse than a barrens plainstrider back in season 2. The warlock (and uploader) even went on to win Blizzcon with Zilea and Valrath as warrior/dk/hpala in wrath with his team "Teh Super Gosus", which is why the comp is called "TSG" in the first place.
ma jo no, he’s terrible.. look at the opponent in the first round (hard cast holy light twice with CoT and no CD used or attempt to fake). He also also devour magic on auto cast, so bad.. his teammate gets sheeped and he can’t anything cuz he doesn’t have a dispel macro
He tries to CoW a felhunter instead of CoE to make it easier to kite.. Jesus just terrible
@@ryanjoslin If you played old school you would understand. 2200+ back then is like 1500 now days
@@majortomsdmf1 nah thats more to do with the bg hes playing on than anything else.
if you watch any of the Neilyo vids, or any of Hydras vids, a warlock playing like this wouldnt really ever get rank 1 on the same bg.
also watching the clips of Hafu made me wonder why she got so much praise, shes nowhere near Beasteh/Sonny level at all
@@Exata1337 You know nothing lol. In season 2 nobody was good. Season 3 is when people started to get semi decent. A fact that not many people know is that ruin was a good bg because everybody from ruin who went to bg9 dominated bg9. Only the ogs know
love the video, glad u put the time in making this.
I was Spotter in these videos. Honored to play along side of you Veev.
Yeah pro player. Enemy pala is casting holy light with curse of tongues on not hoping to get interrupted from fehunter. RANK 1 PLAYS
@@stamatispatakas5481 yeah that pala was quite something
Well TBC is on the way, time to prepare. Thanks for the clips man. Legendary
How do you know?
the good old drain mana spell
damn i just realized that you change action bars almost every spell. what a god
When dots did damage and people used mana.
Man, dots suck so much now lol leveling an aff lock and you have to work for your damage
I played this game many years ago for a looooong time as a warlock (undead:) )and affliction was simply "insane". I am surprised to hear this
the good old days when warlocks were unstoppable during arenas. i also had a warlock arena partner on my rogue at the time. my internet connection went down that summer for like a month or 2. when i came back he was already decked out in arena gear.
Okay I was taking a look around, gosh. Lol good video
The backpeddle is real with this one lol. So funny watching the action bar flipping too. I miss tbc.
I miss TBC, nice vid and great quality
warmane in 5 days release TBC... 12k+ player base and its pretty bug free.... not complete but pretty,
He lie this is p2s server
important to point out that prices are stupid high so it's not like everybody will walk around with donor gear tho. Still a better option than Excalibur, and that's the only other TBC realm with at least 1k people online.
play it on warmane then :D
hey Martin, pls tell me what are the best pvp classes on warmane, and races, I would like to play warlock(which one is beter)/mage(frost or fire)/ret pally
Yo, Veev! Do you still keep up with this channel? If so, and you see this comment. Where can I find your hunter arena montage from patch 2.0.1?? The one that was on google videos. (pre-TBC patch)
someone names of songs pls ?:D know that there is a korn and TDS but thats all
Its amazing how far we've come in player skill. To think this was gladiator level plays back in 2007..
I mean he was one of the best warlocks and warriors in the world at the time....
@@UlTiMaTeOnExx that was his point
Thx for sharing! great games
Love this video watched it too many times i lost count.
Well Played! Also nice music!
⭐️
Music taste is awesome,too bad u've changed it!
NICE VIDEO
Is there a reason for him not using immolate in most of the fights?
Wow, you got 16:9 monitor back in days.
Good play-list!
omg how do you add music to a video
I'm just here for the killer soundtrack.
for real, I havent played wow since wrath, but this guy was on my server on Medivh and he was on the best 3v3 and 5v5 in the toughest battlegroup every season, they legit destroyed everyone, they had some druid named furioni or something that was ridiculous, I remember this video and being put onto all this music I'd never heard, stop the hating
he played on the most dead bg back in the day tf are you on about lmao
Is it just me or did that Warlock walk straight through that pillar at 2:50? Lmaoooo.
yup. some weird death coil glitch?
Dude your music tastes were fine! Hell, I still listen to Korn a lot! lol
tracklist
btw why he played UA build instead of sl/sl?
OMG Hafu is in the video...oy the memories
I've always wondered, how did alliance warlocks deal with UD teams? I'm a gnome warlock and I'm worried about undead teams. Especially since I'll most likely be running a rogue/lock buddy of mine.
By beating ud racial with your racial
The best sl/sl warlock during tbc!
Luis Serrano he’s affliction not sl/sl
He played both. Better as SL/SL I reached duelist using his SL/SL talents in season 3.
whats the Name of the first song?
How did gladiator work back then?
uppload ur t3 hunter solo arena vid from tbc prepatch, PLEASE
bis tracks
if this is really from 2007 the quality is insane
ofc. just give a look to arena maps, the'yre not from 2.4.3. it is totally retail video.
@@SbkzorTV Do you notice that video proves that Smolderforge, deathside, warmane were all scripted incorrectly when it comes to devour magic. On private servers it will not use devour magic when its on auto cast if there is not buffs on the person. This video clearly shows the felhunter is supposed to spam purge even if there are no buffs on the target if its set on auto cast..... Fixing this on private servers would be a nice buff to disc priest and other classes who get destroyed by purges.... please help spread make TBC private servers notice and understand this
Nicholas Arsenian ok then
@@nicholasarsenian342 No it does not.
This is from the time, where Detect Magic was nessecary to see enemy buffs.
The Felhunter can not cast it if the target has no buffs. And it will only heal itself, if it actually devours a buff.
The reason the FH keeps it on cooldown is: Hots.
I played in Vanilla, TBC, Wotlk, Cata and Legion as a Warlock, and now: I play warlock again in classic.
@@bass-dc9175 is right, you needed Detect Magic to see enemy buffs until patch 2.3 and this video was recorded during season 2, wich was before 2.3 released
Which race is best for lock pvp in tbc between BE and UD?
Gnome and orc
Veev, a long long time ago you had a video on google video where you did arenas with your t3 hunter 1v3ing people. I cannot find it anywhere, if you do have it can you please upload it?
...still remember your and ryan's duels below naxx in vanilla, medivh represent
I keep trying to find this video too. One of my favorite vanilla pvp videos. It was back during Naxx prepatch before TBC when arenas first came out.
Vanilla Medivh represent - Fury The Transcendant Eightbreaker Teagan Kalahad.... Miss those days :O
THIS
Veev you gotta make a comeback with zilea and valrath ( they are still playing though).
that skill cap! i came looking for what it will be like on my lock but i dont think ill face as many other locks playing VOIDWALKER in arena! xD 3:10 "OH! Someones behind me!" loool great he's just channeling some dumb crap, lemme fear him for music drop xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxD omg sits at full health without tapping with so much steady health coming in... im so excited i hope this quality stays the same like it's stayed in classic
my bluntz and my harddrives ian
GG - You prefer BC or WoLK?
So every game is dubble dps?
So back in 2007 druids just let you to drain their mana and there was no action bars option in menu? Strange times man, but thanks for the upload
Back in TBC wow times used to do mass pvp on Tarren Mill EU - Aid Somalia we had top rank among EU in PVP horde, by ratings / gear :D. I cant really remember top ally teams back in times, i guess horde had top 1-10 ranks 2v2 and 1-5ranks 3v3 ±. BTW you had only one action bar tab, i wonder how you can rush to 2k+ rating on retail with it .
I get that arena was still new and undeveloped, but still have to constructively comment here: Death Coil usage wasn't really used at key moments. Being an instant cast 3 second CC with a 2-3 min cooldown, it should be better placed, either when going for a kill or for defense when you're taking it hard, not just a casual CC. That being said, I understand this is early arena and I get that arena wasn't as developed as it was in later seasons. Thanks for the upload regardless!
R1 at 2007 is 1700 rigt now :D
I was deeply into arena back in TBC - this must be a 1600ish rating at the end of TBC right? I remember people with shoulders and weapons being MUCH more skilled when rating were required for gear.
This is like 2400-2500, he literally got rank one on his battlegroup but yea player skill did increase a lot as the seasons progressed.
build ?
name of the song by 2:16
Is unstable affliction spec viable in S1? Or does it become more viable with more resilience in later seasons as I suspect? SL/SL is good, but boring. UA lock is obviously viable haha, just when?
For 2s, not in s1 for sure. Pbly not in later season as well, rogue should stomp it. Seems that guy just outgears his opponents massively
Also that video was recorded on a different patch. dots and mana drain weren't affected by resilience.
were soooo hungry borrrissss
before saying it's not rank1 or anything... remember that in thoses days... realms was grouped per 4 for PvP... and some servers was older than other (and more skilled^^).
If his realm was recent (open when TBC launched) and grouped with some other recent servers... nothing strange in seeing rank1 ppl backpedaling and other newbish things.
In 2019 my ayes are bleeding ..
run piggy run
I played 3s with your warrior for awhile on medivh when we ran ret/warrior/rshammy
name of the song by 14:12
tdg=animal i have become
No CoT on pala? hmm rank1 ^^
u ever seen the fall guys borriss
who will find u first borriss the drillers or the snipers it doesnt really matter dose it
How come not single team is targeting warlock.. man I wish people would let me free cast :(
rank 1 or 100,000?
song name?
First song, Ra - Do you call my name
16:10 druid??? where he going
Crazy how low the skill cap was lol
says the donkey who is shit at pvp
@@spencerevans524 If you think this guy is good you're probably shit....
imagine commenting on a video that was taken from a game that came out at 2007 so like 13 yrs after and talkin about skill cap. sad
Imagine using the comment section for comments....
@@majortomsdmf1 imagine imagining...
i remember all theese TBC pvp videos had some kind of alternative rock in background...
Holy shit could you stuff any more ads into this video?
Watching this, I can see the average skill level has really gone up over the years.
Ya dude .. me and my friend are actually baffled by the tbc beta that is out ... almost every player on is sweaty trying so hard lol.
"rank 1" lock literally has devour magic auto casting. Clown fiesta
lol @ sai
Roll on Tbc classic
come on borriss tell me where u r
dat 2 frost mages ... omg :D:D:D how they become mericless gladiators ?! :D
I mean shared drs are kind of a joke but shatter was still a thing, no doubt they got a lot of oneshots...still how they got r1 is beyond me lmao
They prob got it in low battleground
People talk soo much about "skill level" Back then you didnt have almost any info on shit. You had to figure out everything by youself. Today you can ready everything and copy everything you ever think of. Soo dont talk of skill lvl when all of your skills came from some guide that some dude od girl posted on internet. I miss old days when you had to learn by youself and that joy. I remember spending hours in front of dummy testing and practicing dps and shit when you get new set of gear or little more haste and shit just to see what is better and to make it perfect. Today you just go on some site spend 10-20 min reading and gg you are "pro". And with addons that tell you everything on enemy team and bosses or rotation and shit. Dont talk shit .And sry for the bad eng:)
yes, agreed, claps !
my advice ian land somewhere other than the free world
fucking paper tigers
everybody saying r1 on their vids and its actually 1400
Except he literally got rank one.
@@DriftNick Rank 1 back then was todays 1400 easily. So many tbc glads in Shadowlands right now hardstuck at 1700 with 500+ games played.
@@Shiftlinkage101 Veev isn't just some TBC glad, He's multi rank one glad in multiple xpacs and a Blizzcon winner.
@@Shiftlinkage101 im tbc and wotlk glad and higher ranked in sl then you .. how??
At 4:30 hes fighting Hafu. Im sure she has some fanboys who copy her name on pservers, but fairly sure it is the real hafu and the real retail tbc.
parks all clear borriss a decent sniper could have it done
Opponents are terrible lol. Makes me wonder how hard arena might be in tbc classic
"rank 1"
You are not even using focus tagets. What a scammer.. Rank 1 lmao xD
private server at 2:49 he literally deathcoils a warlock THROUGH A pillure
You could also fear people through pillars and through the ground (to their death), it's not a private server.
rank 1 backpeddle into clone when u could have lined.... bro this is fake
Auto purge is bad
Not only was the gameplay terrible, the music was beyond rectification.
LOL this guy rank1 and backpedaling?
this guy aint rank1 he plays verybad
2007 moron
Multi rank one and Blizzcon winner btw.
@@DriftNick cristiano ronaldo is richer
@@cenklol That is true though not really on topic.
u playing vs bots?
its not rank 1 ... its last place of whole rank ...
This is the skill levels people were at back then, this video was uploaded and discussed on arenajunkies back in september 2007. www.arenajunkies.com/topic/535-veex-warlock-video/
rank 1 on 1500 lol
Shut up kids warmane is full of skilled players and its best private server for pvp....!
Dude wasnt skillful at all sl/sl lock was the most broken spec ever in world of warcraft it was like fighting a raid boss dot run away and heal from siphon life easiest spec ever
@@auviance222 yes he was sl/sl
@@priestskorge It's not. He's full Affliction and has Unstable Affliction.
Most broken spec ever in WoW but it wasn't even the best dps spec in TBC arena lol.
Faecalmatter is top1 warlock on every server plx correct ur rank 😂
what a nice scripted textures this server has.
this is more like 1.5mmr hahaha
No this is actually rank 1 tbc lock material :p didnt require all that much
people just weren't that skilled back then
@@aranahjohnson9640 he was one of the best warriors and warlocks in the world for 5+ years game was harder back then in pvp
@@madaneoulix1312 not saying he wasn't one of the best, though you can't argue that nowadays the skill cap is way higher than back then
@@aranahjohnson9640 had to do way more back then.. cover hunter traps with hunters mark.. 10x more variables .. im a 2500+ player every season since wotlk .. now its just cd trading with a 3 button rotation thats it ..
Rank 1 backpedalling boring warlock.