never donate to an organization unless you actively see them working towards a goal you agree with, and actively seeing them does not include them saying they did something
Given that I only found the Missouri branch of this group through Facebook recommending them to me, what do you bet this is a plan to suck money and exposure from gun owners?
@@mikes9759 But that is absolutely true. Speeding, in my car, is not a crime, it's a category. A crime was when I drove too fast in a particular place a few years ago, a specific illegal action that I did. RICO is not a crime; a crime would be a specific action of some kind, performed in a specific time and place, that violates a specific RICO law. And the person that AOC was asking, was unable to describe the specific action that violated RICO laws, so she was saying that absent such specific action then obviously no crime had been committed.
Figures. Let me guess: you are a member of the IFCA, who has literally done nothing for Iowa but polish the apples of the 2A RINO squishes in the legislature and give them cover for not supporting the second amendment. If you really live in Iowa, you should pay closer attention. The Dorrs and IGO are the ones who literally changed our state red with their highly successful campaigns to oust far left Democrats Michael Gronstal, Steve Sodders, et. al. from the Iowa Legislature in 2016. I remember walking the neighborhoods of Gronstal in 2016 leafleting the houses of pro-2A union members that were enraged when they found out how much Gronstal opposed their 2A rights. Gronstal was in a heavy Democrat leaning district, yet he lost, all because of the hard work of IGO and their members. You can thank me when you come to reality.
If these guys are running scams, why aren't they in jail? One would think that if they've been getting away with it for 20+ years, ripping people off must not be illegal. Last I heard, it was . Hey, maybe that would be something right up ATF's alley. Make them do a real job instead of harassing gun owners. Just a thought.
Hey doll, thanks for the heads up! I just forwarded this vid to a local trustworthy training, range, and retail joint named "Indy Arms Co" because I can see how some might be confused if this scam group simply abbreviated this version of their entity. Thanks again, and God bless.
Yes. It's specifically one of the reasons Iowa has shifted hard right in recent years. If you really live in Iowa, you should pay closer attention. The Dorrs and IGO are the ones who literally changed our state red with their highly successful campaigns to oust far left Democrats Michael Gronstal, Steve Sodders, et. al. from the Iowa Legislature in 2016. I remember walking the neighborhoods of Gronstal in 2016 leafleting the houses of pro-2A union members that were enraged when they found out how much Gronstal opposed their 2A rights. Gronstal was in a heavy Democrat leaning district, yet he lost, all because of the hard work of IGO and their members. You can thank me when you come to your senses.
I saw a YT video of American Firearms Association (AFA) interviewing Viveck Ramaswamy a few months ago and in the Hallways of Congress so I'm not totally sure
I’m a life member of both the NRA and GOA. But I will ask which organization provided gun owners with 4 major court wins including Heller, McDonald, Caetano and Bruen? (It was the NRA). Yes, both groups continue to fund court cases and I contribute to both but the big wins were by the NRA.
I have NEVER heard any politician speak in fear of ANY gun rights organization except the NRA. I am a Life NRA member. Support who you want, only NRA, warts and all, makes politicians shake with fear.
@donsmith3988 The NRA has taken credit for court cases in which they had minimal involvement up until the last minute, so that they could claim it as "their" win. A lot of your NRA contributions probably went to Lapierre's personal suit budget.
@@michaelsweaney3890 That's what I was thinking. Maybe maybe put up by FJB, DOJ, or maybe Soros funded. Or could be put up by Brady or Moms looking for Action, or one of the other gun-grabber groups. Gotta admit, a good way to hurt your enemy by stealing their source of funding (aka Wolf in Sheep's Clothing)
Similar situation in Oregon, where some state RINO reps are touting an endorsement from a gun rights group that only exists on paper. Luckily, Oregon Firearms Federation found out and has been spreading the word. OFF is a first class organization that's been kicking ass and has had our backs for a long time.
nah shouldnt do it at all theyre just moneygrabbers all "weapon rights groups" are because peaceful means dont stop tyranny as shown by the past over a century now that we've been trying peaceful means and get nowhere but more and more "laws" enforced on us as if theyre real anyway
Damn. I just joined Ohio Gun Owners and get emails from Chris Dorr. I did it because the Buckeye Firearms Association was willing to be more like the NRA, compromising at wilĺ. It seems that Ohio Gun Owners has the same website. We're screwed in the Buckeye State.
Unfortunately, they are coming up in search results if you try to search for an Ohio version of GOA. I am a member of Gun Owners of California (GOC), which is a real organization unlike OhioGunOwners.
I've worked personally with the folks from Buckeye for fundraising and also at the GRPC conference, they aren't sellouts, they are totally legit and you've probably been misled. Their co-associations with the SAF, The FPC, and other fantastic groups should speak for themselves. In fact, the MNGOC modeled itself after a lot of Buckeyes org.
@connordaine6233 I had a chat with someone from BFA awhile back about fighting to change the law on No Guns signs. They didn't think it was a good idea. In addition, when an Ohio resident is issued a CHL, the entry is entered into Ohio LEADS. Each one is flagged if run by a law enforcement agency like a common criminal. The same response. They sided with the state instead of our privacy. I did these entries for almost 20 years.
Thank you for the heads up, Doll.🥰 The way things are these days people need to watch every penny. If you're going to donate you want to know that money is going where you want it to go. This is a great reminder, if you're going to donate to any organization do your research first.
Sayings like 'Talk is cheap,' and 'A Fool and their money are soon parted,' come to mind. It's far too important, and nowadays in the morass of lies that is the real world business model(s), for us Consumers/Patrons to do OUR 'Due Diligence' and make *SURE* our meager $$$'s are actually doing what we need it to do.
Stop that.... you're using logic and common sense.. something politicians and (other) criminals depend on us to not use, to defraud us, and steal from us citizens.
American Firearms Association (AFA) has a pretty big YT presents that pretty much does everything you are saying, they fooled me but not enough to donate to them.
If the group has never made any amicus briefs, filed any 2A lawsuits and isn't mentioned by any of the UA-camrs I trust, they won't get a dime! Maybe some criminal charges need to be filed by some state attorney generals! I mean, why haven't the legislators that know they are scammers already asked their AG's to take action? Thanks Liberty Doll!
Absolutely not true. The New York affiliate just filed a lawsuit against the ammo background checks there. Learn before you make un-true claims. They have filed numerous amici in Federal and State courts.
@CharlesBreedlove-gj5qe if the federal government only took voluntary donations instead of taxes (i.e.: theft) and did nothing instead of mass-murder, theft, and destruction, then you'd be on to something.
Oh frag! Guess I got took. I joined OGO and had been doing monthly donations. Tried to call them and have the recurring charge stopped and lo and behold their answering machine is full and can't accept any more messages. I've sent them an email saying the same thing. Not waiting to see if that gets results. Also called the CC I used to have them put a stop and refusal payment to that group. Getting tired of not being able to trust anybody anymore. NRA let me down, OGO let me down. Liberty Doll, Thank you for airing this. You and Guns & Gadgets are good people. Thanks again for your warning.
GOA Gun Owners of America and FPC- Firearm Policy Coalition have both been fighting our 2A battles in courts for decades as NRA has NOT been. your state groups you have to investigate before ever sending them a dime, IMHO. Glad you called and got them stopped from getting your money. Hang in there.
Glad someone is exposing these dudes. I gave money to one of these groups ONCE. Just noticed the difference from the dorr website to another pro 2a gun group in my state. I have been donating to the other pro 2a group ever since. Sharing this with my buddy so he can chose the right group.
Sadly... we are being preyed on by a LOT of groups. People KNOW we need someone to help us, KNOW we will pay, and KNOW they can get away with it. Look into ANY group you want to donate to or pay a penny. Make SURE your m9ney is being put to use. It doesnt cost much to file paperwork. Matt from FuddBusters pointed this out.
5:33 I've run into Missouri Firearms Coalition before. They ran a super sketchy Facebook group back during the Trump days. There was a thing back then where gun grabbers would destroy signs advertising gun shows. They made a post telling people to send them pictures of the perps. I asked them why we were sending that to them and not law enforcement, since destroying signs is a crime. They couldn't come up with a good answer. They do at least seem to genuinely do some good work here (they've challenged St. Louis's challenge to Missouri's 2A Sanctuary status, for instance) but they don't seem to be local to us either. Funnily enough, they don't claim to be our *only* no-compromise gun group here, because Missourians are a bit spoiled for choice there.
The Pennsylvania Firearms Association (Chris Dorr) is a mailbox at a UPS store in Harrisburg, PA. I investigated them when I got their first funding request. I had to write a letter calling them out as a fraud in order to finally get the mailings stopped.
I am sharing this video with my son, who is a gun owner in Indiana, hoping that he is not a victim of the scam. The people behind this should win a prize for their accomplishment,, like years of room and board at a penitentiary of whatever state or federal government prosecutes them first.
Yeah, but people should support a local and a national gun rights group. I specifically stopped funding one of my state gun right groups because they seemingly never actually fight anything.
Thank you! Good call. People in the FL 2A community were afraid to denounce these clowns for awhile. I questioned them a couple of years ago and got hate mail and a few immature comments in socmed. So I walked away from some of the very people now shining light on this. SMH
HOLY CRAP DOLL!!! I live in Iowa and used to get emails from "Iowa Gun Owners" almost every day. I haven't seen one from them for at least 6 months now. They wanted donations and / or memberships in their organization. I was seriously thinking about becoming a member, but since I'm retired and on a fixed income, hadn't done it, yet. Since this video has come out and while watching your video, I punched in "Iowa Gun Owners" in a new tab and the website that came up was the same as those you show in your video. Thank you, thank you, thank you soooooo much! I will NOT be joining that organization.
Here we go again. I watched another video this morning. I checked to see if I was still subscribed, and I was. An hour or so later, I'm unsubscribed. I watch a lot of Guntubers, but I get unsubscribed to your channel regularly, so much so that I now mark it on a calendar.
Love your content, but one clarification. The shockwave... there's no way it can 'light up a football field for 100k hours. What it's claim is, the battery will last 100k hours. That means, charge it, use it, recharge it, use it, rinse and repeat. Keep the great videos coming. We love them!
I would show them my GOA card and if that isnt good enough, then I would walk and explain very nicely to them why. The NRA set things up this way to have a monopoly IMHO.
GOA and FPC are doing all the heavy lifting for ALL gun owners. Its sad so few like yourself support them, yet cry when there are ever increasing infringements on them.
💯 I went to college in kennesaw State university and checked the address: 1635 Old 41 Hwy., Ste. 112-202 Kennesaw, Georgia 30152 It’s a Publix parking lot Forget these scumbags. They’re not getting another penny from me.
It’s true. I looked up the address and very familiar with the area. It might just be their address for the UPS Store that is in the shopping center where they receive mail. I signed up to be a member with GA Gun Owners back in 2012 as they appeared to be legit to me back then. At the time Patrick Parsons would regularly livestream on a weekly if not daily basis and be down at the GA capitol building from time to time. It’s my understanding he left GGO to go work with Marjorie Taylor Greene as her Chief of Staff in 2021. He moved on after 9 months citing it was only going to be temporary for him.
This raises more questions because I remember Patrick Parsons with Georgia Gun Owners a few years ago going live from the Georgia State House interviewing several scum bag politicians. I need a follow up video clarifying his role in this alleged scam.
Where are all the State Attorneys General in prosecuting these people??? Every state should be on top of this-it's gone on way too long and continues to this day!!!
Thank you for this episode. I JUST started receiving emails and mailings from a group called Illinois Firearms Association with Aaron Dorr as the Director. Obviously not legitimate.
Damn I have filled out a couple petitions with Ohio gun owners. Luckily I never gave them money. I've always found them very informative on upcoming laws and issues. It wasn't until you said the door brothers that my ears perked. I just unsubscribed to their emails. I can't believe there's a scam. Thanks for the heads up
Can't worry about Indiana, although Pritzer is a real case, need to worry about my State. Support the 2nd Amendment Foundation first and foremost. None of this would even be happening in court if it wasn't for Alan Gottlieb. Voter ID ASAP!🗽
And FPC and GOA as well. Illinois is a lost case in my mind with a supermajority of leftist Dem crooks running the state for many many decades sadly. I have no idea how it can ever recover when they have the Chicago machine running the state and its offices for 75 yrs. Its disgusting. Maybe Illinois can secede from Chicago! 😊
I love this I'm in Michigan keeped seeing Michigan groups poping up all over like mfa as you listed I tried contacting them to ask why I never heard of them and couldn't find who are what they do. Thank you for doing this I wish others would do Thank they are also in Michigan under mfa
Thank you. Been complaining about them, and sharing their scams but their meme machine is strong and must be fruitful. Happy to see this video. notice all of the addresses are UPS stores?
LD here is doing the Lord's work, saving marks from schmucks like this! As a Hoosier, I've never donated to a group I didn't personally vet. Our family's donations tend to go to groups like GOA, and the campaigns of individual politicians (because F the uni-party). The only Rhinos Indiana supports are in our zoos . . . Hang On and Keep Strong, Doll. You got this!
I remember that, when they got called out in Iowa Capitol. They were trying to take credit for GOA and FPC work. Didn't hear much about them after that so I had thought they'd crawled back into their hole. Apparently not and that's unfortunate.
Appreciate you keeping us in the know about this kind of activity. Really burns my biscuits when people do this kind of thing, but some people just don't have any sense of decency - guess they were raised that way.
These Dorr Brothers are beyond disgusting. This is how an evil leftist, Marxist, progressive liberal, mind works. Kinda reminds me of some Germans in the 30s
They are also behind Tennessee gun owners (TGO) it popped up after the Nashville thing. They showed up at the capital a couple of times. Tennessee Firearms Association sent out an email warning Tennesseeans about them.
Pain Safari Shockwave and Giveaway: painsafari.com/libertydoll
I feel the need to clarify that their 100k hour claim is for the lifetime of the LED. I would however like to see information on the battery life.
Something is off on the specs you’ve said. 2 amps is enough to unalive nearly any 350 lb human. Less than 1 amp is deadly
I would like to look into the flashlight but can't even check the price without getting put on a spam list. Bummer.
@@ccun5224 Go straight to the site, in the URL you can delete everything after the site extension and it will take you to a main page.
I can't seem to find the website listing the scams. What am I doing wrong?
These crooks have one hell of a resume to be politicians.
haha, they would fit right in for sure.
Sounds like The 87000 armed IRS agents need to visit the Door brothers!!!!!
Right? Like come on
@@LibertyDollsmells like Government Sanctioned Money Laundering so they would have to screw up pretty bad. Hopefully this attention is the start.
dont legitimize the IRS. The DOJ should be visiting or State Police from Indiana for Fraud charges.
They should have a calculator. Not a firearm lol. Thats just me tho. @@LibertyDoll
They probably helped start the group.
never donate to an organization unless you actively see them working towards a goal you agree with, and actively seeing them does not include them saying they did something
i donate to firearms policy coalition. they are legit
@@raindoody5679 yes!
As a Hoosier, I'm algorhythmically happy I don't know these guys.
No one does 🤣🤣🤣 they aren't even in the state, probably a smart move. They wouldn't make it past Warsaw.
@@jpisback LOL!
Algorithmically*
@@jonahzablow2132 No shade intended, the spell check I use (???) seems to accept both spellings, LOL
Fellow hoosier here and i agree!!
Maybe the DOJ/FBI should investigate them for RICO!
Given that I only found the Missouri branch of this group through Facebook recommending them to me, what do you bet this is a plan to suck money and exposure from gun owners?
Rico isn't a crime!! It's a category!! Just as AOC!! LMAO!!
Alphabet Bois: I'ma pretend I didn't see anything.
They are on the same team
@@mikes9759 But that is absolutely true. Speeding, in my car, is not a crime, it's a category. A crime was when I drove too fast in a particular place a few years ago, a specific illegal action that I did. RICO is not a crime; a crime would be a specific action of some kind, performed in a specific time and place, that violates a specific RICO law. And the person that AOC was asking, was unable to describe the specific action that violated RICO laws, so she was saying that absent such specific action then obviously no crime had been committed.
I stop ✋️ giving too the NRA for the same reason. Thanks 👍 for sharing this with us. 👍
its sad nra didnt go defunct the moment they help pass the nfa
@@uhs2rtrue
Yeppers, I 've stopped sending the my hard earned money a long time also, with no plans in the future to start.
DJT in 24 🇺🇸😎
@@gabbyhayes4561 so you xi 2.0 to be in office. I don't think either is fit my vote is maybe Ron paul
@@uhs2r It don't make a tinkers damn in hell who you vote for. The fact remains that we're free to our own options,....Even you.
DJT in 24 🇺🇸😎
To Liberty Doll -- Nikki
"THOUGH SHE BE BUT LITTLE, SHE IS FIERCE."
~ William Shakespeare
haha thank you
@@LibertyDollSounds like my daughter.
Thats what she said ....
@@ACommenterOnUA-camThe return of Michael Scott.
(William Shakespeare was an uneducated drunk, and didn't write half of what his name is printed on.)
Wow, I actually trusted Iowa Gun Owners with my viewership, but not my membership. Thank you for shedding light on this scam.
Same here.
Figures. Let me guess: you are a member of the IFCA, who has literally done nothing for Iowa but polish the apples of the 2A RINO squishes in the legislature and give them cover for not supporting the second amendment. If you really live in Iowa, you should pay closer attention. The Dorrs and IGO are the ones who literally changed our state red with their highly successful campaigns to oust far left Democrats Michael Gronstal, Steve Sodders, et. al. from the Iowa Legislature in 2016. I remember walking the neighborhoods of Gronstal in 2016 leafleting the houses of pro-2A union members that were enraged when they found out how much Gronstal opposed their 2A rights. Gronstal was in a heavy Democrat leaning district, yet he lost, all because of the hard work of IGO and their members. You can thank me when you come to reality.
Sounds like they need to be brought up on fraud charges.
If these guys are running scams, why aren't they in jail? One would think that if they've been getting away with it for 20+ years, ripping people off must not be illegal. Last I heard, it was . Hey, maybe that would be something right up ATF's alley. Make them do a real job instead of harassing gun owners. Just a thought.
They are being protected by their true leaders, the dems.
Dem0RAT donors (?)
something may be illegal, but if it's not worth a prosecutor's time, people walk.
They are probably paying democrats and RINOs to protect them.
@@warhorse03826 If the prosecutor themselves doesn't think its worth their time then they walk.
Why aren't these 3 brothers in prison for life when there's so much evidence against them ! The FBI needs to jump on them !
Tar and feather
They are busy trying to find things on Trump.....
They're probably working for the FBI and ATF.
Working for the Dems
They're part of ActBlue.
Dorrs have been doing this for 20+ years.
Hey doll, thanks for the heads up! I just forwarded this vid to a local trustworthy training, range, and retail joint named "Indy Arms Co" because I can see how some might be confused if this scam group simply abbreviated this version of their entity. Thanks again, and God bless.
The Door brothers have been doing this for decades in Iowa and Minnesota
Yes. It's specifically one of the reasons Iowa has shifted hard right in recent years. If you really live in Iowa, you should pay closer attention. The Dorrs and IGO are the ones who literally changed our state red with their highly successful campaigns to oust far left Democrats Michael Gronstal, Steve Sodders, et. al. from the Iowa Legislature in 2016. I remember walking the neighborhoods of Gronstal in 2016 leafleting the houses of pro-2A union members that were enraged when they found out how much Gronstal opposed their 2A rights. Gronstal was in a heavy Democrat leaning district, yet he lost, all because of the hard work of IGO and their members. You can thank me when you come to your senses.
These people need to be exposed.
I saw a YT video of American Firearms Association (AFA) interviewing Viveck Ramaswamy a few months ago and in the Hallways of Congress so I'm not totally sure
She did.
I left NRA because they compromised and spent much effort on selling magazines and other favors.. Switched to GOA, and now a lifetime member.
I’m a life member of both the NRA and GOA. But I will ask which organization provided gun owners with 4 major court wins including Heller, McDonald, Caetano and Bruen? (It was the NRA). Yes, both groups continue to fund court cases and I contribute to both but the big wins were by the NRA.
I have NEVER heard any politician speak in fear of ANY gun rights organization except the NRA.
I am a Life NRA member.
Support who you want, only NRA, warts and all, makes politicians shake with fear.
The NRA was a business-suit piggybank for LaPierre....for YEARS.
And the NSSF?
@donsmith3988 The NRA has taken credit for court cases in which they had minimal involvement up until the last minute, so that they could claim it as "their" win.
A lot of your NRA contributions probably went to Lapierre's personal suit budget.
Shame that there are so many crap people around.
when passions run high.. scoundrels appear and profit from the weak...
certain preachers come to mind...
Remember all the 9-11 rip-offs that popped up? Or the Haiti Relief scammers? Or just recently, the BLM movement scam artists?
Thank you! I almost joined Georgia Gun Owners, but I've never heard anything about them outside of a gun show here.
Why Haven't these guy been arrested yet?
If they haven't been arrested yet, they must have gubment blessing/backing? Give me any other legit reason? I'll wait.
Because they are doing the left's bidding.
@@michaelsweaney3890 I think you have nailed it.
@@michaelsweaney3890 My guess is they live in Kalifornia or New York. Harder to locate. Just a guess.
fjb
@@michaelsweaney3890 That's what I was thinking. Maybe maybe put up by FJB, DOJ, or maybe Soros funded. Or could be put up by Brady or Moms looking for Action, or one of the other gun-grabber groups. Gotta admit, a good way to hurt your enemy by stealing their source of funding (aka Wolf in Sheep's Clothing)
Similar situation in Oregon, where some state RINO reps are touting an endorsement from a gun rights group that only exists on paper. Luckily, Oregon Firearms Federation found out and has been spreading the word. OFF is a first class organization that's been kicking ass and has had our backs for a long time.
I stopped being an NRA member years ago when they stole money with my credit card. People don’t renew your membership with a card.
nah shouldnt do it at all theyre just moneygrabbers all "weapon rights groups" are because peaceful means dont stop tyranny as shown by the past over a century now that we've been trying peaceful means and get nowhere but more and more "laws" enforced on us as if theyre real anyway
Damn. I just joined Ohio Gun Owners and get emails from Chris Dorr. I did it because the Buckeye Firearms Association was willing to be more like the NRA, compromising at wilĺ. It seems that Ohio Gun Owners has the same website. We're screwed in the Buckeye State.
WE still have GOA (Gun Owners of America) and The Second Amendment Foundation actively representing us across the nation, and they DO get things done.
Unfortunately, they are coming up in search results if you try to search for an Ohio version of GOA. I am a member of Gun Owners of California (GOC), which is a real organization unlike OhioGunOwners.
I've worked personally with the folks from Buckeye for fundraising and also at the GRPC conference, they aren't sellouts, they are totally legit and you've probably been misled. Their co-associations with the SAF, The FPC, and other fantastic groups should speak for themselves.
In fact, the MNGOC modeled itself after a lot of Buckeyes org.
@connordaine6233 I had a chat with someone from BFA awhile back about fighting to change the law on No Guns signs. They didn't think it was a good idea. In addition, when an Ohio resident is issued a CHL, the entry is entered into Ohio LEADS. Each one is flagged if run by a law enforcement agency like a common criminal. The same response. They sided with the state instead of our privacy. I did these entries for almost 20 years.
GOA and FPC are always a great place to support your 2A rights and they actually fight in court for the same thing. Unlike the NRA lately
Dang 😲 2 amps ? That's gonna fry your attacker like a chicken.
Probably 2 *milliamps*.
Thank you for the heads up, Doll.🥰 The way things are these days people need to watch every penny. If you're going to donate you want to know that money is going where you want it to go. This is a great reminder, if you're going to donate to any organization do your research first.
Sayings like 'Talk is cheap,' and 'A Fool and their money are soon parted,' come to mind.
It's far too important, and nowadays in the morass of lies that is the real world business model(s), for us Consumers/Patrons to do OUR 'Due Diligence' and make *SURE* our meager $$$'s are actually doing what we need it to do.
Stop that.... you're using logic and common sense.. something politicians and (other) criminals depend on us to not use, to defraud us, and steal from us citizens.
And, there's a sucker born every minute.
American Firearms Association (AFA) has a pretty big YT presents that pretty much does everything you are saying, they fooled me but not enough to donate to them.
thank you for the heads up
@@GunWebsites I'm glad that you got a chance to check it out. The Dorr Bro's run a bunch of 2A organization's
@@GunWebsites I'm glad that you got a chance to check it out. They run a bunch of 2A Organization's
Biden and Pelosi must have raised these fine men.
I'm a candidate and received a survey from Missouri Firearms Coalition. I sent a follow-up email and got a dismissive response from Aaron Dorr.
Hey Andy 👋🏻 I can't wait to vote for you!
If the group has never made any amicus briefs, filed any 2A lawsuits and isn't mentioned by any of the UA-camrs I trust, they won't get a dime!
Maybe some criminal charges need to be filed by some state attorney generals! I mean, why haven't the legislators that know they are scammers already asked their AG's to take action?
Thanks Liberty Doll!
I currently have a 2a case in federal court, but I am not a "group".
Absolutely not true. The New York affiliate just filed a lawsuit against the ammo background checks there. Learn before you make un-true claims. They have filed numerous amici in Federal and State courts.
Why would they get arrested? They make videos calling out fake gun supporters. I love em.
This makes me want to start an anti-gun group that just takes peoples' money and claims to be doing stuff without actually doing anything at all.
😂
Yes!
Don't do that FBI/ATF really would come after you then. They only act in defense of Democrats and their agenda's.
@CharlesBreedlove-gj5qe if the federal government only took voluntary donations instead of taxes (i.e.: theft) and did nothing instead of mass-murder, theft, and destruction, then you'd be on to something.
dont stoop to their level, although that is funny!
They know that most people won't check to see if they're bonafide charities. There's way too many "charities" anyway.
I live in Indiana and I've never heard of this group!
The IRS needs to pay these "brothers" a visit.
Ha Good luck on that. They appear to be on the same team imho
@@PatriotPaulUSA Good point.
They actually have a very clean record with the IRS. Completely on the up-and-up. You can read their 990's online if you cared to educate yourself.
@@philroe2363 Struck a nerve, didn't I?🤣
@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 yes. I don’t care for lies foisted up by anti-2A RINOs. You or any others.
2A FOREVER
Oh frag! Guess I got took. I joined OGO and had been doing monthly donations. Tried to call them and have the recurring charge stopped and lo and behold their answering machine is full and can't accept any more messages. I've sent them an email saying the same thing. Not waiting to see if that gets results. Also called the CC I used to have them put a stop and refusal payment to that group. Getting tired of not being able to trust anybody anymore. NRA let me down, OGO let me down. Liberty Doll, Thank you for airing this. You and Guns & Gadgets are good people. Thanks again for your warning.
GOA Gun Owners of America and FPC- Firearm Policy Coalition have both been fighting our 2A battles in courts for decades as NRA has NOT been. your state groups you have to investigate before ever sending them a dime, IMHO. Glad you called and got them stopped from getting your money. Hang in there.
Glad someone is exposing these dudes. I gave money to one of these groups ONCE. Just noticed the difference from the dorr website to another pro 2a gun group in my state. I have been donating to the other pro 2a group ever since. Sharing this with my buddy so he can chose the right group.
Sadly... we are being preyed on by a LOT of groups. People KNOW we need someone to help us, KNOW we will pay, and KNOW they can get away with it.
Look into ANY group you want to donate to or pay a penny.
Make SURE your m9ney is being put to use.
It doesnt cost much to file paperwork.
Matt from FuddBusters pointed this out.
Screw these companies I don't need anyone of them I can save myself
Thanks for the heads up Nikki!
Wow!!!!
Why is no one else reporting this!?!?
This is something that needs to be investigated further.
Thank you LD! I live in Indiana. Thanks for the info! God Bless You 🇺🇸
Sounds like a self licking ice cream organization.
thank you for all that you do.
Scammers are everywhere, so beware.
As a Georgia Gun Owner I appreciate the information. I get solicitations from them all the time. Thanks for the straight talk. Love this channel.
I'm a Hoosier and have never heard of this group.
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I've run into Missouri Firearms Coalition before. They ran a super sketchy Facebook group back during the Trump days. There was a thing back then where gun grabbers would destroy signs advertising gun shows. They made a post telling people to send them pictures of the perps. I asked them why we were sending that to them and not law enforcement, since destroying signs is a crime. They couldn't come up with a good answer. They do at least seem to genuinely do some good work here (they've challenged St. Louis's challenge to Missouri's 2A Sanctuary status, for instance) but they don't seem to be local to us either.
Funnily enough, they don't claim to be our *only* no-compromise gun group here, because Missourians are a bit spoiled for choice there.
The shockwave torch looks awesome!! In NY we cant carry tazors or pepper spray but we can own guns. I'm upstate, our laws make 0 sence.
The Pennsylvania Firearms Association (Chris Dorr) is a mailbox at a UPS store in Harrisburg, PA. I investigated them when I got their first funding request. I had to write a letter calling them out as a fraud in order to finally get the mailings stopped.
Thanks again, Liberty Doll.
You bet!
I am sharing this video with my son, who is a gun owner in Indiana, hoping that he is not a victim of the scam. The people behind this should win a prize for their accomplishment,, like years of room and board at a penitentiary of whatever state or federal government prosecutes them first.
Keep up the Great
work
Thank you !!
No need to support a bunch of random gun groups. Stick to the most active organizations like GOA, FPC, etc.
Yeah, but people should support a local and a national gun rights group. I specifically stopped funding one of my state gun right groups because they seemingly never actually fight anything.
As a Minnesotan, MGR IS A SCAM
Happy Mother's Day Doll!
Thank You for the update
With Love and Respect you are in my prayers
Hoka Hey
My daughter is allowed to legally carry in my State; however if the pain light has a holster would be an extra tool.
Thank you! Good call. People in the FL 2A community were afraid to denounce these clowns for awhile. I questioned them a couple of years ago and got hate mail and a few immature comments in socmed. So I walked away from some of the very people now shining light on this. SMH
She wearing cheetah print
rawr
Yes, the girls look good in cheetah
And she wears it well
She an alpha but not around your boy
Living up to the Doll part.
HOLY CRAP DOLL!!! I live in Iowa and used to get emails from "Iowa Gun Owners" almost every day. I haven't seen one from them for at least 6 months now. They wanted donations and / or memberships in their organization. I was seriously thinking about becoming a member, but since I'm retired and on a fixed income, hadn't done it, yet. Since this video has come out and while watching your video, I punched in "Iowa Gun Owners" in a new tab and the website that came up was the same as those you show in your video. Thank you, thank you, thank you soooooo much! I will NOT be joining that organization.
Here we go again. I watched another video this morning. I checked to see if I was still subscribed, and I was. An hour or so later, I'm unsubscribed. I watch a lot of Guntubers, but I get unsubscribed to your channel regularly, so much so that I now mark it on a calendar.
Love your content, but one clarification. The shockwave... there's no way it can 'light up a football field for 100k hours. What it's claim is, the battery will last 100k hours. That means, charge it, use it, recharge it, use it, rinse and repeat. Keep the great videos coming. We love them!
I would not be a member of the NRA if it weren't for the fact that most if not all gun clubs require it for membership.
I would show them my GOA card and if that isnt good enough, then I would walk and explain very nicely to them why. The NRA set things up this way to have a monopoly IMHO.
Anybody taken in should file a fraud complaint with their state attorney general. Once they get a few complaints, they'll go after the scammers.
I don't belong to any groups. Much like government.. i don't need to donate monies to have others lie to me.
FPC and GOA are in court everyday for you and me .
@@farmrrickLet it all crash so we can get down to business instead of kicking the can on down the road. Tree thirsty.
Good one 👍
GOA and FPC are doing all the heavy lifting for ALL gun owners. Its sad so few like yourself support them, yet cry when there are ever increasing infringements on them.
I actually am a "member" of the Idaho Second Amendment Alliance. That's disheartening, but now I know and I'll be fixing that. Thank you for this!
My dad got my sister's and I spicy flashlights. They hurt.
So Where is the Attorney General - On Jailing These - Frauds ?
In Georgia, their address is a Publix grocery store.
Do they have an office in the rotting fruit section?
WHAT
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I went to college in kennesaw State university and checked the address: 1635 Old 41 Hwy., Ste. 112-202
Kennesaw, Georgia 30152
It’s a Publix parking lot
Forget these scumbags. They’re not getting another penny from me.
It’s true. I looked up the address and very familiar with the area. It might just be their address for the UPS Store that is in the shopping center where they receive mail. I signed up to be a member with GA Gun Owners back in 2012 as they appeared to be legit to me back then. At the time Patrick Parsons would regularly livestream on a weekly if not daily basis and be down at the GA capitol building from time to time. It’s my understanding he left GGO to go work with Marjorie Taylor Greene as her Chief of Staff in 2021. He moved on after 9 months citing it was only going to be temporary for him.
if you actually scroll in is says suite 112 which is the UPS store. It is a PO box. way to bury the important part.
Put them in prison already.
For the algorithm which will help Liberty Todder’s college fund 😊
This raises more questions because I remember Patrick Parsons with Georgia Gun Owners a few years ago going live from the Georgia State House interviewing several scum bag politicians. I need a follow up video clarifying his role in this alleged scam.
Thank you! I'm from Indiana and this information needs to be shared.
Where are all the State Attorneys General in prosecuting these people??? Every state should be on top of this-it's gone on way too long and continues to this day!!!
The MN State A.G is a commie pos. That's why. Why would he care that someone lost their money to a fake gun group.
How are they not being charged for fraud in any of these states?????
Thank you for this episode. I JUST started receiving emails and mailings from a group called Illinois Firearms Association with Aaron Dorr as the Director. Obviously not legitimate.
Damn I have filled out a couple petitions with Ohio gun owners. Luckily I never gave them money. I've always found them very informative on upcoming laws and issues. It wasn't until you said the door brothers that my ears perked. I just unsubscribed to their emails. I can't believe there's a scam. Thanks for the heads up
Aaron, Ben, and Chris. Don't forget their cousins Dennis, Earnest, Frank, George, Henry, Ira, Jerold, Kenneth, Lawrence, Mark, Nelson, Oscar, Peter, Quenton, Ronald, Steven, Terrance, Umberto, Victor, William, Xavier, Yul, and Zebulon.
Thank you very much. I checked and it's exactly the way you described it. Not nice to fool gun owners.
Can't worry about Indiana, although Pritzer is a real case, need to worry about my State. Support the 2nd Amendment Foundation first and foremost. None of this would even be happening in court if it wasn't for Alan Gottlieb. Voter ID ASAP!🗽
And FPC and GOA as well. Illinois is a lost case in my mind with a supermajority of leftist Dem crooks running the state for many many decades sadly. I have no idea how it can ever recover when they have the Chicago machine running the state and its offices for 75 yrs. Its disgusting. Maybe Illinois can secede from Chicago! 😊
I love this I'm in Michigan keeped seeing Michigan groups poping up all over like mfa as you listed I tried contacting them to ask why I never heard of them and couldn't find who are what they do. Thank you for doing this I wish others would do Thank they are also in Michigan under mfa
They are taking lessons from the NRA!
Thank you for exposing these crooks and crooks is putting it mildly. 👍
From MN, glad to see Minnesota Gun Rights made your list
I'm glad you made this video. I live in Indiana and was following their page. Glad I never gave them any money.
Thanks for warning everyone.
Thank you. Been complaining about them, and sharing their scams but their meme machine is strong and must be fruitful. Happy to see this video. notice all of the addresses are UPS stores?
Thanks for the heads up, luckily I’m in Va where the well established VCDL is active and I’m a proud member
Damn. IGO, AFA, and PFA are all ones I semi-involved myself with. Email petitons & word sharing at least, but PFA memberships. Got me good
LD here is doing the Lord's work, saving marks from schmucks like this! As a Hoosier, I've never donated to a group I didn't personally vet. Our family's donations tend to go to groups like GOA, and the campaigns of individual politicians (because F the uni-party). The only Rhinos Indiana supports are in our zoos . . .
Hang On and Keep Strong, Doll. You got this!
As an Indiana resident I contacted the organization and applied for a paid position actually doing what they pretend to do.
I remember that, when they got called out in Iowa Capitol. They were trying to take credit for GOA and FPC work. Didn't hear much about them after that so I had thought they'd crawled back into their hole. Apparently not and that's unfortunate.
Appreciate you keeping us in the know about this kind of activity. Really burns my biscuits when people do this kind of thing, but some people just don't have any sense of decency - guess they were raised that way.
These Dorr Brothers are beyond disgusting. This is how an evil leftist, Marxist, progressive liberal, mind works. Kinda reminds me of some Germans in the 30s
Love the show your doing amazing job 😊
People should be contacting state AGs and filing criminal complaints for fraud so they can enjoy the proper fruits of their labors!
Sounds like rampant fraud and huge fines and jail time should be on the horizon.
They are also behind Tennessee gun owners (TGO) it popped up after the Nashville thing. They showed up at the capital a couple of times. Tennessee Firearms Association sent out an email warning Tennesseeans about them.
They sound adorrable!!!
Lock them up!!!
Can’t trust anyone anymore
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