exactly... also I find peculiar how they'll say Russia strategy (assuming they know what it is, which they don't) has been a "failure" while the full country is "ravaged" - if they've been struggling to barely hold on to 20% of country, how is the whole country ravaged? Let's remember the Russians by and large have not hit civilian infrastructure with the deliberate aim to destabilize society and turn the people against their gov't, like the US have done in Iraq, Libya, Syria - even staging a chemical attack to false-flag the regime-to-be-changed there...
@@catalincarceanu7991 that reminds me of another documentary i watched a long time ago, made by Oliver Stone's brother, about the nuclear tests on the Bikini Islands (if I recall correctly).
Nazis are alive and well and the media won't report on it there in the Ukraine. Ukraine is not innocent. America's politicians are doing this because they have alot to lose financially. America doesn't need to support this war. We have enough problems. Our country is extremely screwed up right now. Our President and leadership are so clueless. All these politicians are!
ABsolutely , not a word about the lies. The President has about 30% in the Us . Putin has over 70% pros in Russia . If this journalist had talked about DONBASS since 2014 , this war would not have happened . But Zelinsky bombing the civilians . Putin had no choice .
She is the widow of a very respected historian. She lived in Russia for a long time and she does know what has happened since 2014. This lady is definitely genuine. She just holds a more anti Putin view, but an honest one. He is definitely not a demon, but he definitely has his flaws. You should read her late husbands views - they were more kind to Russians perspective on how Ukraine has treated Russian ethnic people in the East since 2014.
I totally agree with you, she should expect that all the aggression in the world today is caused by America, she has no clue ,not interested in truth 🤭🤭
NOTE : 57 (more like 54) billion given to Ukraine THIS YEAR ALONE. Ukraine was given heaps of leverage and THE US/EU encouraged Ukraine not to accept. Now, as this war drags on, that leverage is shrinking. Gas, oil and food... Is important and sanctions will implode the EU.
@@toshiyaar7885 I don’t know! 😲 Not the first 14 billion, not the rest of the money that hasn’t left the US. One thing is clear - all this money was taken out of the pocket of an American taxpayer and transferred to the accounts of some private US companies.🤠
If it weren’t for Patrick Lancaster, John Mark Dougan, Gonzalo Lira, The New Atlas, & IEarlGrey, Redacted & Eva Bartlett I wouldn’t know 95% of what’s actually going on in Ukraine.
One sided: 2 months ago the Australian national broadcaster had a TV program about this with an audience. A polite young man (looked like teenager) who said he was of both Russian and Ukraine backgrounds, asked the "experts" why there was not more about how the Russians felt about this. There was no answer. He was ordered to leave the studio.
Suppose you could say the same thing about a north korean citizen being asked what they think of their leader >> without their risk of execution of course.
You are referring to Stan Grant - An Australian "broadcaster" affiliated with the Military Industrial Complex and US State Department funded propaganda group ASPI (Australian Strategic Policy Institute). Grant is one of the chief propagandists for the Australian ABC Network, and probably one of the most prolific. Most of Grant's propaganda is focused on acclimatizing the Australian population for war with China, but he occasionally redirects his efforts to other Washington backed conflicts around the World. This "polite young man" was shut down by Grant because he dared to mention the thousands that have been killed by the Washington owned Ukrainian-puppets military attack on the Russian speaking population in the Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts in the East of Ukraine since the Washington (Victoria Nuland) Coup of 2014.
@@animalfarm7467 The Australian voices for the Fox News, right wing of the media is not a source I would ever take seriously for precisely the reasons you pointed out. However. He is just one voice in a sea of many. I am anti war but I do not advocate political stupidity or national suicide for the western nations. We must be ready for bad faith, bad actors like Putin. China if you are reading this. read, study on and learn.
@@roboldx9171 : I agree with almost everything you have said (~ Putin), and I respect your right to have an opinion. For this reason, may I suggest you log-off and recheck your comment. You may find you have been ghost banned for some reason in the past.
Just the usual American narrative unfortunately. DN needs to think about where they are placed. They seem to me to be slipping into supporting the US govt's position. Ms vanden Heuval is playing it safe and sticking to the script.
I agree with your assessment - she said the military aid was given to counter "Russian barbarians," as if US didnt behave in a more than " barbaric" manner, with almost satanic disregard for the life and rights of Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans, Syrians. And even earlier : before dropping the two atomic bombs on Japan, US AF firebombed its major cities with an experimental fissile glue that reduced their cities to ashes, which was an untested version of the napalm they would use later in Vietnam.
Kind if like the business model for felonious PhRMA. See Pfizer profits go from 4 to 40 billion despite worst global economy ever. Fear ignorance and PR are making a global killing like never before. Thanks Demagogue ®¥ Now. The MadMen
Bingo. Unreported war scam. Rich profit from deaths and misery of the industrial slave class. Cleveland could use a billion or two to build rapid transit, solar power, education, what ever.
You don't seem to propose any solution to the problem of Russia invading Ukraine! So shut up and let those who are trying to help do what needs to be done!
Zelenskyy didn't give those up..... He's refusing to help them..... Refusing to accept them as part of Ukraine .... That is why Putin has to step in with Crimea--- it needed a land bridge it was drying out and the people werent being taken care of by Ukraine from the beginning because they are mostly russian people that live in the crimea and donbas
The people of the Donbass and Crimea overwhelmingly identify with Russia and do not want to be governed by the U.S.-installed, Nazi-infested Maidan coup regime in Kiev.
@@CARambolagen Putin war is justified. Eliminate nazi, corrupt GOVT, chemical labs and most importantly homeland security due to nato expansion which is against agreement was signed and so on, Ukraine is on the border with Russia unlike Iraq , Afghanistan, Vietnam, Japan and the rest are 1000s of miles away. The US has most invasions under their belt, not to mention, the biggest difference is The US was never condemned by any country that counts..,,, etc
@@Hulk-g4v What a lot of rubbish! Ukraine gave up it's nuclear weapons to Russia in 1996 (+ Budapest Memprandum) and was fully independent since 1991 by referendum. All this goes to show, what happens if you are leaving yourself defenseless to imperialist Nazi Russia.
The problem is not in the media - these are the for-profit corporations, they do what they have to earn the money. The problem lies with the general audience, that blindly believe what they're told. The problem is in _us._
So how does the average person differentiate lies from truth then? Sorry but you’re wrong to assume disinformation for profit as ok. Those in positions of influence have a duty to speak the truth.
Very wrong dude. An average Western person doesn't have time nor interest RESEARCHING the truth. He/she is so tired of work, seeking some mind and body refreshment and the last thing they have in mind is youtubing for some "far-far" country media to hear some balance. And when they hear: "PYUTIN" is guilty for gasoline prices, food prices rise- that's it. Who is PYUTIN? Ah that Russian... And the Russians are (in Holiwood) always bad guys...bad bad people.
@@andrewweber2010 Here's a fact: media lies all the time. Be it for political reasons, because they're financially invested, or because of just their own personal bias. You have to understand that, and be open to the critical thinking, and read through multiple sources from different sides to form your own opinion on the matter. If you blindly believe that any single media source sells you, whichever it is - be it Fox, be it BBC, be it Russia Today, be it even Democracy Now! - you're already brainwashed by it and incapable of seeing the full picture.
Disinformation for profit is not _ok,_ but it's what actually happens in the world. To believe otherwise is to delude yourself. Media companies don't sell you the truth, they sell you an entertainment to support your worldview and bias.
@@numbersix8919 I haven't watch this show in a LONG time. I have lived outside the US since 2008. I just got this video recommended to me, and I checked it out. I remember Democracy Now as being pretty good at anti establishment programming during the Cheney presidency. I guess maybe it was just partisanship and not genuine pushback against the authority's messaging
Are you joking? So Russia is hitting Ukraine continuously and Ukraine is just losing 50-100s and Russia 1000s where are you getting this news and statistics. Zelensky is obviously cutting the numbers. Look at how many battalions are retreating every day. 👀
They are talking about solder losses. Russia is killing much more if you count civilians, way to go Russia! Now I don't know how true the 30,000+ number is (no one truly does), but there are several reasons why the Russians are taking such heavy losses some of them are: 1. The Russian military has been terrible on multiple levels, their op sec, their tactics, their logistics, etc. The fact they've taken such relatively little land and had debacles like losing their flag ship to a country without a Navy is embarrassing to put it mildly. 2. They are in essence "brute forcing" their way through territory, while Ukraine is by in large willing to withdraw their forces if it's not a vital space of land. 3. Ukraine is the "home" country so they know the land much more than Russia does. 4. Last but not least, moral. Ukraine is essentially fighting for their existence, Russians are fighting for...
@@specialK319319 Russians are fighting for the existence of Russia. And what is your problem? Is it not because the West is no longer getting Russian resources for useless zeros in Western banks? But this is the West’s problem. You will get nothing more from Russia. Soon you will eat each other? Bon appétit. These are your problems!
@@MySyberWolf How the hell is an invading country "fighting for it's existence"? Like what kind of terrible, stupid logic is that? If anything Russia has made it's borders less secure as prior to the war Finland and Sweden weren't even remotely close to joining NATO, now it's a foregone conclusion. But keep believing the BS your government is telling you. You know when you're not even allowed to call the war for what it is, A WAR maybe just maybe your government is lying/hiding information from you. Just a crazy thought there.
Tell Mr. Sanders I'm world renown for defending Democracy and Freedom. When the Northern Union entered Kentucky, I lost all hope but knew our boots on the ground could count on oil supplies from the (redacted) to help the Coalition bring the Baathe Party (mostly made up of Saddamn Hussein's "administrators" according to Western news outlets) back into power a 3rd time.I will gladly advise Mr. Sanders and Gen. Patreus at the White House. And tell the Shah of Iran: "Hell no, I won't go!" to any other UA-cam(TM) news network than DEMOCRACY NOW!
??? Nonsense. NATO is protecting her own and if that means helping Ukraine keep those Black sea ports, the Ukraine heavy industry and grain baskets within the EU and American sphere of influence, avoiding Putin occupied Russia's black mailing tactics. So be it. Slava Ukraine.
@@roboldx9171 But Ukraine is neither in Nato nor in the EU. It isn't our own as you say (I live in an Nato country). It was also never in the American or the EU sphere of influence. This was a recent development (since 2014). And even so, this was always wishful thinking. The forced change of government in 2014 triggered an 8 year civil war. A war that was always going to end one way. I can understand why the Americans keep pushing this but what makes no sense whatsoever is why the EU is going along. Americans risk nothing here. It's the EU that's going to get destroyed economically here. And for what? For a country that's not in the EU, or Nato for that matter.
@@Screaming-Trees Therein is your problem. Ukraine is at this moment in time not EU nor NATO. She is also no longer is part of the old Soviet Russia. These Ukrainian people want to join the EU and NATO and not be a part of Putin's new Russian empire. However Putin wants to build a new Russian empire. Strategically, if Russia is allowed to occupy and suppress Ukraine, against the will of the Ukrainian people, incorporating and dissolving the Ukraine nation into Russia. 40 plus million Ukrainians will have not had any say in their own future. Putin occupied Russia will have expanded and strengthened her boarder's and ultimately be in a position to dictate, threaten and make war on another neighbouring country in her effort to build the new Putin Russian empire. At some point a NATO country and former Soviet nation will be where Ukraine is today triggering the IIIWW. If that is what you want to see. Carryon treating the Putin regime with kid gloves. The new Russian empire must be nipped in the bud now before the weed is allowed to run out of control. Victory to Ukraine.
Sadly, too late now. Macron could have done so much more after visiting Moscow in so friendly, almost emotionally elements by OPOSING THE SANCTIONS and putting pressure on Ukr Nazis. Unfortunately, he went into 3rd grade politician and 3rd grade country (after mighty USA and little bulli British bulldog) towards Mr Putin who, somehow "had a hope in Macron" to understand the Russian perspective....(you can't impose Flandrian language over French in Belgium next to France!!!! Nor German over French in Switzerland - I guess France would react!!!).
@@clintloranrand951 100% Agree. ps: As someone who speaks the language, I am sorry to have to correct you but it's Flemish. But you can say Dutch. It's the same but with a different accent and some different words. It's a bit like American and British English.
@@letsgorandom1380 OK WHAT ABOUT IF I HAD SAID FIAMMINGO? WOULD YOU CORRECT ME AS WELL? CLINT ARGUMENT WAS TO PRESENT A SIMILAR SCENARIO AND IF WE MISSPELLED OUR APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING AS PICKY
@@volvogoodtruck1117 VERLICHT? REALLY? WHAT IS A BANDERAS STATUE DOING IN MANY SQUARES OF WESTERN UKRAINE OR THE STREETS NAMED AFTER 2WW NAZIS?WHO KILLED 30000 POLISH JEWS? GERMANS? OR UKRAINIAN NAZI SUPPORTERS? UKRANIAN SOCIAL POLICIED ARE NATIONAL SOCIALIST JUST LIKE THE TATOOS OF THE AZOV BATTALIION SO READ YOUR HISTORY BEFORE YOU TAKE SIDES
Remember there was almost a deal In April in Turkey. But suddenly Zelensky pulled out. Here is what happened: US and the UK said to Zelensky: you want our weapons, you keep fighting and blow up any peace deals. Being able to bring Russia down without sustaining casualties is just too irresistible for NATO. So the longer the war, the better. When it comes to geo-strategic interests, any talk of values and ideologies, hide far less noble goals.
That’s all fine and dandy. But Russia is emerging stronger out of this conflict. While the U.S. will be severely weakened. They can’t possibly be this stoopid. Many Americans suspect this is the deliberate destruction of U.S. prestige and influence
You don’t invade a sovereign nation and get to keep what you have stolen. Putin is a nasty piece of work. He has stolen from his people, he has murdered his own people and he is continuing to repress his own people.
@@chrisperrins8082 Then ask yourself what American soldiers & mercenaries are doing in $yr1a and why are they stealing $yr1a’s oil and deliberately destroying its crops. I’ll wait for you r answer
That is bull. Please don’t speak on things you have no idea about. It was an all or nothing for Russia. If you think Ukriane will ever give up the occupied territory. This war will last long after whatever end to cease fire comes.
do you even know what the mother off all bomb's is made off .Thats what i thought let me educate you on that its just high explosives many magnitudes lower yield than even the smallest nuclear device. Most peope have know idea what justt a few thermal nuclear warheads would do two the earth it doesn`t really matter where there dropped MOAB`S is like comparing a spring shower two hurricane katrina
@@Hawks_Is_Hot Just by seeing some images of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I can imagine. From my uneducated position, I know only the West, the US, has ever done such barbaric action
Even Macron comment was biased. Talking about 'humiliating Russia, Putin". I don't think that's on the cards. I think it's the other way around. The EU is realising the complete mess it has helped sustain and there will be long term consequences including Energy insecurity, political insecurity, and an increased and ongoing level of risk, even after Russia accomplishes its objectives in Ukraine, which it will. After they tried for 8 years to negotiate a settlement, they will achieve their military objectives in Ukraine. The idea they won't is also western bias/strategy to help to send more weapons and prolong the war. Ukraine can't win. And the entire continent will be less secure. US happy a long way from the conflict, again.
When this war is over Ukraine will be in ruins. Zelenjski has been warned off not to negotiate with Putin and the European politicians are too cowardly to stand up to bully USA. After this Europe will be finished as an economic power. That is if the US decide not to push Russia into a nuclear war in which case Russia and Europe would be annihilated.
Absolutely true. Just to add: with 57 BILLION DOLLAR pumping somewhere in the name of a land far far away ( Ukraine), And Mr Zelenski ( a Jewish origin comedian actor - acting as president, not to mention a boxer being a nation's capital mayor) is all about MONEY LAUNDERING...
Russia have not negotiated only threatened and illegally occupied parts of Ukraine. Russia should leave Ukraine and start to pay for aall destruction and for all lives lost in Ukraine. Russia has become a evil country who should be ashamed for what it has become!
@@bipslone8880 There's been other wars in history other than WW2, it's US manipulation to only be able to frame any conflict through the lens of "the free world vs. nazism," you can understand that and still be critical of the Russian intervention
@@JoaoMoriera2 I have no idea what you are talking about. Russia invaded Ukraine.... what is the other side of the debate. You blame America for framing the Ukraine invasion as free world vs Nazism? What are you even talking about, who compared Russia to Nazism?
@@ianburkard What a bizarre way of thinking. Russia invades Ukraine, who is not a threat in any way, and you think there is no right side or good side? I would think it would be as obvious as it would be for a young child witnesses a bully picking a smaller child for their lunch money. This is complicated for you?
Amy question you should but never ask: Q. What are national security interests of America (the Washington/Wall Street corporate plutocracy)? A. Washington global hegemony (world domination/US global empire ruled by the super rich in the interests of only themselves.
A. To contrary, this administration is so terrified of escalating this conflict, they have delayed weapons deliveries to the point thousands more than necessary are dying. I’m somewhat of a pacifist but I must accept Ukrainians seem to be fighting to prevent another Holodomor, so the hegemony of Russia is not an option for them. If European corporate interests were the force here, why do they bother to struggle with Poland and Hungary’s rejection of LGBTQ laws and separation of powers.
"The nuclear expansion of Reagan and Gorbachev" -- talk about both-sides-ism. What a tame little critic we have here. Not a word about what has really gone on in Ukraine since 2014.
She’s a columnist at wapo now too. She is not informative here and she is outright one-siding it too. Pretending to say something when saying nothing. No courage. I dropped my subscription for The Nation years ago.
The entire conflict was avoidable. If not for American hubris and soft imperialism, and obsessive fixation with weakening both Russia and China (Russia is a lot easier for USA to try to weaken at this point though). Literally this whole war is about the USA wanting to put more military bases and forces into the most sensitive possible "country" to Russia, Ukraine. Ukraine has been a part of Russia for like 1,000 years but nobody in USA knows that of course. The idea that Russians would just accept this is crazy, why does U.S. govt push so much for it? Why not simply say to Russian govt ok we won't ever make Ukraine into a military alliance? What is the "cost" for USA of that sort of a compromise? The only "cost" is a psychological one, since USA thinks it is the world's #1 and doesn't have to ever make any agreement with any other country for any reason. And the "sanctions" are profoundly immoral and also wrecking havoc worldwide. And are probably going to cost Biden's own political party control of Congress due to exacerbating the pandemic-based inflation so badly! Especially with gas prices. It's just TOTAL madness and here in USA our news on anything Russia based is COMPLETELY negative and our politicians are always competing to see who can say the most EXTREME and LOONY hateful bigoted anti Russia nonsense. Really sick of all this
So, we just let Putin go? I guess you have no family in Ukraine so you do not care. Would you love to live under Putin's ,"freedom"? Is he hunting Nazi's? Get a grip and quit trying to equivocate everything. Putin is a new Stalin, someone you need to read about to understand your friend Putin. You want Putin to be strong? If it is all the same to you, you should move to Moscow. Your friend gives 15 year prison sentences for calling the war in Ukraine a war. Reality matters.
U.S. led NATO expansion is about power projection on another continent. While hiding behind two oceans. If America had a lousy neighbor, they would not have to come halfway around the world for a fight.
@@TTT-ic1rb What for? So they can shell civilians in Donetsk. That's what they have been doing. What military strategic value does that have? None. The main purpose of sending weapons is to line the pockets of the war profiteers.
@@freedomofpress5605 I don`t think fighting in the Donbass is wise for Ukraine. I think they should focus on their priorities. But I do think Russia is completely wrong in waging this war.
Good try. But fell short of really understanding Russia's side of the issue. For that, you have to go back to 2014 and further to NATO's expansion into Eastern Europe.
Or further to 1991 when 92% voted for ukraines independance. Russia recognising ukraine and putins now long drawn out campaign to reverse that decision firstly by interfereing politically through yanukovych and even poisoning during the orange revolution. Russian state tv saturating the border areas housing the russian speakers there for over 20 odd tyears. No doubt influencing politically and creating ethnic division. Its never been about nato expansion. He, as are all dictators , is far more concerned about democracy expansion. But much more than that he wants to turn the clock back to 1990 and restore the lost empire again
Most of my life, I've found attempting to have a discussion about much of anything is impossible. If it can't be described in 10 words or less, their eyes glaze over.
Why does the US government has no problem spending so much on war? But don't want to reparations, school, health, housing, solving homelessness and drug addiction, mental illness
This interview danced around everything but the core issue - NATO expansion. Her discussion of independent Russian media and projecting that opinion on to large numbers of people was ridiculous. These outlets are not independent. Many of them receive funding from NGOs that are funded by the US state department. Spare us the BS
In the past Katrina vanden Heuvel has pointed out that the core issue that brought about this war has been NATO expansion, and the consequential serious security concerns this would pose for Russia, as well as the divisiveness this would cause within Ukraine. She has changed her tune lately, unfortunately, though still admitting this is a proxy war engaged in by the US.
This whole topic is just an excuse by russia. The response of russia in regards to finland joining NATO was very passive for example even if the strategic implication are even worse than ukraine joining.
There is no relationship between China and USA. There is a relationship with Russia, India, Africa and China. USA is just the rabid dog that for the moment we have to be wary of.
Can you tell me what China is doing wrong? Seems to me they just want to continue to trade while the USA runs around threatening China and arming dissidents, which it has been doing to many countries to instigate conflict and destroy other countries' economies because real fair trade is done better by China. They are not bombing anyone to start so are likely to be favoured over the Bully States.
The "proxy war in Ukraine" means Ukraine is fighting for whom? Remember Boris Johnson and Antony Blinken's response when Zelensky made the first attempts to negotiate an end to the conflict in Istanbul in March?
In Febuary Putin told the world , "we will not invade Ukraine, 2 weeks later he did. The plan was probably a year old by then, that would explain all of Russia's early invasion wins.
The longer this war is extended, the more profits will be made from weapons sales as well as the billions upon billions of dollars in bank loans needed to rebuild the country afterwards. There are some who would love to see this go one for a couple of years.
It’s not up to the US establish the rules on Russian native land which is Kyivan Rus. The U.S. influence and NATO should stay out of that, this isn’t Afghanistan.
The best way to end the war is to give Putin what he wants. Zelenskyy must step down and Ukraine can no longer have a military.. Any truce, Putin will likely try again as he does not Ukraine should exist at all, but if it does, it must be a vassal state.
It is funny that people with “cooler” head still tries not to appear as “poo-tin lover” or “Russian asset” by occasionally throwing criticism on Russia by calling the war “barbarism”. I bet she did not call the 2nd Iraq invasion barbarism.
The extreme right of Ukraine will never allow Zelensky to negotiate terms that will end the war. This is never mentioned in these debates. Zelensky might have a social media following but he is naive and doesn't really have much control in negotiations.
@@halloola3636 Zelensky was naive at the start. He didn't even think a war was going to occur despite the clear message from Biden. He didn't prepare his country for war and this is a greater indication that he had no clue what was going on. Now he is in a big mess that he doesn't know how to end or control as the days go by.
he's a yoo. the yoos dont care about many actual humans die, as long as at least one yoo profits....and he's making a lot of money off sending the ukranians to the meat grinder. i cannot support the yoos, or any other na-zis. and i also cannot support anyone who supports them.
What is she talking about ? Russia invaded Ukraine and the US is helping Ukraine. If the US was invaded they would defend themselves as well, and ask for support if they needed it. This lady has spent too many years being close to Russia.
Dear Amy and the staff of Democracy Now, can you please report on the next imminent conflict between Israel and Lebanon while Israel is seizing the opportunity that everyone is busy with the Ukraine war to explore oil and gas off the coast of Lebanon. This could escalate into a regional war that could be devastating to many countries and people. The EU and Washington should step in and make sure this issue is addressed fairly. Many American Jews like myself hope for a real cooperative future based on respect and fairness toward the people of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and the region since they all live on the same continent.
Sorry keep on dreaming. America is control, direct and lead by the same Zio-Oligarchy Mafia who is behind the Ukrainian war, the ME wars and is now provoking another war in Lebanon. We the American people and western people have no other choice to accept our fate or put a stop to their evil.
@@ernestoliver4609 God and religion always had been used to crush, enslave, robb and steal nations. The closer example is Palestine. But we criticize Russia from entering their historical territory which is Ukraine. We criticize Saddam when entered their historical territory which is Kuwait. But we don't criticize the British Pirates for keeping Las Malvinas, for keeping Gibraltar, North Ireland. Us keeping the Native American historical territories. Us keeping the Guantanamo base historical territories. So who are we to criticize.
Russia is not chilling dissent in the way that the West is uniforming a narrative. There is good reason to believe that Russians, in the main, are keenly aware of larger perspectives.
US sends los of money to Ukrania, but forgets to help our people inside the US, poverty. Drugs,... US also forgets people in central America. Unbeleiveble!!!!
What the hell are You talking about? Are You blind? Ukraine did not start attacking Russian civilians. Ukraine did not start bombing their cities. Ukraine did not start the war. What Ukraine did, is that they wanted to decide for themselves. This obviously doesn't fit for Moscow, because for them Ukraine is not a country - and this whole concept of Russia aiming to be a new empire like during the tsarist times is just laughable.
No your memory doesn’t serve you right. I think you are maybe wearing blinkers. Either that or you have been listening to Tucker Carlson and Noam Chomsky.
since the people of usa tend to have a very difficult time understanding even the most basic things. here's an analogy for you..... imagine mexico, canada, cuba, jamaica, and japan all allow russia to build military bases and place all sorts of missiles and other weapons there......how would usa react? exactly.... hopefully that clears that up for you. also how can you support the yoos and other na-zis?!
@@residentgrey i know most of america can. i'm a real american. i was talking about usa. they would react like russia did. and they would blame all of us. but currently they side with the yoos.
@@sabin97 the ones you refer to at the end were supposed to become allies, UKR and that genocidal apartheid state. The extremists organizations had a chance to rise but L-N-ski screwed up by referring to this situation as comparable to what happened in the camps. That apartheid state could have led the no-fly zone and been integral to the outcome, but NOPE. it is as if the many groups don't want every one to thrive but only their faction to dominate over the rest of them and the world.
You failed to mention the 1994 Trilateral Statement and the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances. Based on your reporting it’s ok to go back on the security assurances the United States promised after taking part in disarming Ukraine of its nuclear power. Great “open minded” reporting!
And this womans logic is basically saying, ignore past agreements and just give up your right to defend yourself, give the Russians what they want so you can move on. Crazyness. I would not want her in my corner is the Russians invaded my country.
@@luperamos7307 You were told? Well, that settles it then. When countries want to join NATO, isn't that their decision? That is not the West expanding, it's countries choosing not to live under Russian control.
You do realize that was part of the plan. Look at how many Arms manufacturer's made bank off the U.S. buying weapons in mass from them going into the hundreds of billions. It may have been a set-up
@@noneinparticular2338 Yes but they delibrately kept a war(military invasion) going all in the name of making money and disguised as "fighting terrorism" which they bought and paid for through the Saudi's and whatever BS CIA experimental(MK Ultra) programs they had to use to keep up they terrorist campaign. The U.S. military was and is way more capable to kill all the terrorist in the world in 1 year but chose not too.
@@jacpratt8608 I did listen to her talk about how we should be concerned about Putin's feelings and how we need to be concerned about how he can save face. ProPutin. She is on the payroll.
Heuval starts by saying that the media needs to provide better coverage of the history of this conflict; but when given a platform provides no history. Make no mistake; Heuval is arguing for appeasement .
Appeasment is usually better than death but when appeasing the USA Oligarchy death is probably a reasonable choice. Many living on the streets of the USA are living in a hell without any hope of redemption .
I think there’s a detachment from reality here. Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around, and the rationalizing about the “corporate media” really has no relevance.
No! The U.S. and Ukrainian Nazis jointly overthrew the friendly-to-Russia elected President of Ukraine in 2014 and have been murderously trying to impose the rule of this coup regime on the largely ethnic-Russian population of Eastern Ukraine since then. The Russian intervention should have happened years ago.
The conflict is not "Russia" and "Ukraine" in isolation. Ukraine was basically a province of Russia for about 1,000 years. The USA (a more powerful country than Russia) is surrounding Russia with military forces, after having spent decades encouraging the sort of ethnic separatisms that resulted in the creation of Ukraine as a separate country. The borders of this Ukraine are very modern and do not reflect the true ethnic-linguistic realities.
This is Ammee, distorts the connection between one fact and another. Instead of simply saying: Russia launched a missile into Kyiv in response to the US supplying long range missile to Ukraine. That is the whole story, that is the fact that matters. Interpretation should come afterwards. Russia appeared to be demonstrating its capacity to hit any target it chooses in Ukraine in response to Ukraine being supplied with long range missiles.
No! We want to know what the target was. There's supposed to be a journalist. They intentionally do not tell us what the Russians were aiming at. I'd have to go to the mod Ministry of Defense Daily Report and find out from the Russians. Because our journalist won't tell us.
Yeah and no deaths just a railway inside Kiev and the audacity that they claimed Russias goal was to kill as many people, how can the media say such contradicting statements
Except that in no scenario was NATO or Ukraine going to ever commit suicide by attacking a nuclear powered country and cause nuclear missiles to kill tens of millions. There’s that. But it does turn out that having weapons to defend themselves themselves against a bloody war of imperialist aggression by Putin was actually a pretty good idea and has helped save some innocent lives.
@@petercornwell5880 Yes but the innocent lives of people with Russian ancestry whose many lives have been lost in the lead up to this conflict and after the intervention. There won't be a nuclear response from Russia unless someone is stupid enough to use them against it. But any nuke launched will be intercepted more or less above the launch site and the shit will drop on who ever is below.
The only difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is God. The Republicans believe in a Power beyond themselves while the Democrats believe in the Philosophies of Fools.
the russian federation went to the aid of slavic ukranians subjected to war crimes for the past eight years. Not neglecting the international crime against humanity after the ukraine cut off crimeas water supply after their referendum to join the federation. The minsk accord recognises the autonomy of eastern states, they invited the russian federation with permission from the lawfully elected president of the ukraine! So your claim the special operation is an invasion and illegal is entirely erroneous! Unlike what NATO is doing under the mantle of operation freedom occupying numerous territories without invitation...and has been doing so for more than two decades! Specifically the congo basin to southern syria and northern oil fields! Syria's army wiped out dhesh in the first few weeks, till the u.s. imposed sanctions! Syria has the fifth most professional army in the world! The world has had enough of the dollars weaponised hegemony, never has the u.s. honoured an international debt obligation and that is before dropping the gold standard! Africa knows especially well how the scammers of fiat ponzi conduct themselves.
Fascinating. I'm wondering if Jews who experienced the business end of Nazism feel the same. One point: it would seem that encouraging evil...IS evil. For example, we know that the Azov Battalion, a critical element of Ukraine's military, was on America's terrorist watch list. Yet...the United States both funded the Azov Battalion and provided them weapons. Smells like encouragement to me. In fact...a large segment of America supports the current Ukrainian ethno-fascist regime. I guess that means that the United States is...🤔
As long as Main stream media stays traceable connected to the arms industry, why should they NOT paddle "threats for clicks"? they get paid for the articles by the MIC, and get sales/ad- revenue on top of that. And as long as the fear persists, the clicks will follow. Every human being has a "Super weapon" between his ears. If he/she intents to use it like that. Do i have to be afraid of everyone? No. Even if they conceal carry, they still need a reason to draw.
Katrina: As long as your enemy is holding a gun on you, you have to continue holding your gun on the enemy. It is just reality. To put your gun down would be suicide. You need to understand this.
Ukraine is reaping what it sows. UNESCO is having to rescue Africans who the Ukrainians would not allow out of the country and who are stuck in detention camps in Poland.
Nah, they've lost trust in Ukrainian government as well as the west collectively. So, they'll try to invade the whole country or force a total surrender and a regime change in Kiev, before stopping! If they settle for anything less, the Ukrainian war will return in 5-10 years when they rebuild their military again and try to take back their land.
It would highly benefit mainstream news media journalists to study Russian history, culture, and politics, to be able to properly comment and analyze this great and sovereign nation. It should also be noted in any analysis, how the USA and its proxy puppet nations, have created a negative and vilified picture of Russia in its entirety. The conflict in Ukraine was started and crafted by the USA and NATO, and not by Russia. The end result, including the thousands who've died and millions of displaced civilians, should only be blamed upon those that are fully responsible for this proxy war, and those who continually have promoted this aggression against Russia. It's highly uneasy to listen to American neoliberal narratives on this channel. I've decided to unsubscribe.
Macron didn't evaporate 14,000 Russian Speaking citizens, nor did he mainstream an antisemitic Azov Battalion into his military, he didn't promise neutrality while preparing for war, and he didn't cut off all fresh water to Crimea. 🤷
We need real debate on Ukraine? We have a wealth of it. She said absolutely nothing new that we are not constantly reading on both sides of the issue. What planet is this journalist on?
Didn’t Hillary Clinton say the favourable situation would be similar to that of the Soviet Afghan war? Cause that turned out well for everyone didn’t it Hillary? 🤦♂️
After Helsinki Russian State News said "Putin owns trump" after traitor Trump surrendered in SYRIA without consulting the US MILITARY, Russian State News said "Putin owns trump AGAIN". Joint Chiefs informed traitor trump that Putin has put a bounty on our MILITARY and traitor Trump did nothing and kept silent. Wonder what percentage of the Putin bounty on o ur soldiers do republican voter's get for being silent about this.
Katrina, if your freedom and safety was at risk from these Russian marauders would you feel the same way, I doubt it, you would want American boys to continue fighting to keep you and your family safe, freedom is not free!
So fight on your own. Dragging MY FAMILY into a possible nuclear war to fight for the most corrupt governments in Europe, Nazis in their ranks? Fuck that and fuck them. They wanna keep fighting? Do it on your own WITHOUT my tax money, leave my country out of it
What do Ukrainian citizens (not politicians) lose if they end up on the other side of the border meaning under Russian control, what do they lose exactly?
you have it ass-backwards. If the Ukrainians hadn't been shelling the civilian population of the Donbas we wouldn't be where we are. IT was their 'freedom and safety' that was threatened. More than threatened. Hence their plea to Russia for protection. Ukraine - or Zelensky to be specific - has only itself to blame.
@@xD3MONxIxSOULx The promise of western wealth at some point in the future? But in reality, they would lose the continued violence in their country. And the weapons and dollars from the US so that they can keep on fighting Russia.
If the Russian war is illegal then Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan was far more illegal. Their threat was thousands of miles from the US. Ukraine is right on Russias boarder.
How refreshing to hear Katrina correctly call this a US "proxy war." I've been a bit on the fence with Democracy Now for a while but this video and the one covering the "Global Embarassment" of the Americas Summit bust have restored my faith. Good work.
In three months, DN has had two level-headed, analytical, dispassionate guests- Vijay Prasad and Katrina VandenHuevel. Thank you! The rest have been western cheerleaders to one degree or another. Please continue to do better Amy. Otherwise the corporate media KVH refers to is YOU.
I'm afraid it's only Vjay - Katrina isn't as one-sided as A. Lieven but she's clearly leaning towards the American Way of things, even commenting at last (among several other remarks in her time here) that neither China nor Russia are to be "admired" - see the impassioned language there? what's that supposed to mean? not admired for their lack of freedom of expression, or because they seek a sovereign path for themselves? this choice of words echoes Macron's "humiliated" - how exactly is anyone, for that matter, "humiliating" Russia? they could wipe out all of Europe in like half an hour if they wanted or had to, so I really doubt their Ukrainian strategy has been a "failure." if anything they've been very lenient with US interference not to escalate the war to really dangerous levels. I'd like to see her or Lieven debate with someone like R. Medhurst or Pepe Escobar.
@@leonaessens4399 Define cheer-leading in this context. Encouraging him to take more Ukrainian territory? Hoping that Russian forces kill more Ukrainian forces? Speaking well of him as a leader/person publicly?
@@leonaessens4399 you’re right, Putin has hundreds of cheerleaders giving interviews about how the not see units tortured them, kept them hostage, would fire at groups trying to escape, kill people escaping or tie them to outside poles with their clothes pulled down. Sure some could be propaganda or given under duress but there are literally hundreds of videos of families giving these interviews. They give full names, dates, addresses of buildings like schools and hospitals those not see units would setup bases in, addresses of incidents that happened. It goes on and on. The western side has nothing like it. In fact the main stories that come out end up being lies later.
"has become"? this kosher nostra muppet has been a deep state tool from the start... "dictator Assad gassed rebels", "terrorist Gaddafi",... all memes spread by Amy...
Things are looking slightly different than they did 3 months ago. “It is easier to start a war than end a war”. That is an argument that should be directed to Putin, not Biden. I am getting a little tired of having to remind people that it was Putin who started the war NOT Biden. No one is forcing the Ukraine to fight.
These kind of people exist within a very myopic western centralized bubble. They cannot begin to understand the agency of others, because they don't believe they have any. It's a world view that kinda borders on conspiracy theory thinking. Which is the reason why its generally promoted by cranks.
From the Cuba experience, USA enacted the Monroe Document essentially stopping any country near USA from putting foreign weapons close to the USA. But in Ukraine they have done exactly that. Putting foreign weapons (USA/NATO) within striking distance of Russia. Just as Kennedy was prepared to act against Soviets, Russia is prepared to act against Ukraine. Americans don't understand Russia is doing exactly what Kennedy would have done if the Soviets had not rerouted their missiles.
Russia is humiliating west already. Winning economic war already as well as winning militarily. NATO is not credible anymore and USA´s hegemony is over. Or anybody could believe that USA would retaliate , if Russia would send a NUKE against Poland for instance to stop arms deliveries? Would USA risk for the sake of Poland , that Russia would turn USA´s big cities into radioactice glass within two hours? After this war it is clear, NATO is just good for promoting USA´s interests in Europe, not for real war....It is all done, Russia under sanctions, Ukraine on steroids from USA and Europe.. and it is already clear what is going to happen... What USA should have given to Ukraine was just one signature, prior this war- assuring Russia , that NATO(understand USA) would never expand in to Ukraine... That would be the best and cheapest way to keep Russians home. USA´s greed did not let this to happen(even Putin was asking for it last year several times)
I love how these two speak about this while seemingly oblivious to the essential reality of USA foreign policy - which is exploitative, dominating, aggressive imperialism. It is evil, to be blunt, and the direct historical cause of Russia invasion. It's a genteel discussion as inoffensive to the Western ear as possible.
It is not clear that the Russian military intervention was illegal. When Russia intervened a large scale attack on the Donbas had just begun. Its artillery preparation has been registered by the OSCE. Article 51 of the UN Charter confers the right of preemptive war in case of an imminent attack. Russia had recognised the two Donez Republics as independent and concluded an assistance treaty with them. Russia could also appeal to the Responsibility to Protect which the Clinton Administration introduced into the UN Charter.
@@drmodestoesq And yet Putin is neither insane nor an idiot. Mearsheimer is considered one of the worlds greatest thinkers in international relations, specializing in US-Russo relations.
@@michaelg7520 At least I knew that President Biden's vast network of intelligence agencies which had penetrated the Russian government knew what they were talking about when they said Putin is going to invade Ukraine. Mearsheimer and his ilk thought that was irrational panic mongering. What passes for strategic analysis in the mind of his type looks more like wishful thinking in the minds of people with common sense.
Crimea, Donbass,, Russians have lived there for GENERATIONS!! have the right to their language and WILL NOT HANG THE PORTRAIT OF THE BANDIT S Bandera in the dining room !! and I also would not like to become a Ukrainian !!!! GOT LOST !!!!
Putin is promoting the profits of the MIC by invading a sovereign nation. Hell, I would have bought shares in Bayraktar. Of course, I would have given the profits to the Ukrainian war relief.
so Russia`s war is barbaric and illegal, while America`s wars, with million of dead civilians, were benign, kisses with the tongue in the mouth!
exactly... also I find peculiar how they'll say Russia strategy (assuming they know what it is, which they don't) has been a "failure" while the full country is "ravaged" - if they've been struggling to barely hold on to 20% of country, how is the whole country ravaged? Let's remember the Russians by and large have not hit civilian infrastructure with the deliberate aim to destabilize society and turn the people against their gov't, like the US have done in Iraq, Libya, Syria - even staging a chemical attack to false-flag the regime-to-be-changed there...
Look for the movie ,,Nuclear Savages" to see what USA has done in Marshall Islands since 1954
@@catalincarceanu7991 Many years ago I was offered a contract to work in the Marshall Islands. I'm very glad I turned it down.
@@catalincarceanu7991 that reminds me of another documentary i watched a long time ago, made by Oliver Stone's brother, about the nuclear tests on the Bikini Islands (if I recall correctly).
Nazis are alive and well and the media won't report on it there in the Ukraine. Ukraine is not innocent. America's politicians are doing this because they have alot to lose financially. America doesn't need to support this war. We have enough problems. Our country is extremely screwed up right now. Our President and leadership are so clueless. All these politicians are!
If she is an expert on Russia; what does she understand has been happening with Ukraine and Russia since 2014? Disingenuous.
ABsolutely , not a word about the lies. The President has about 30% in the Us . Putin has over 70% pros in Russia . If this journalist had talked about DONBASS since 2014 , this war would not have happened . But Zelinsky bombing the civilians . Putin had no choice .
She is the widow of a very respected historian. She lived in Russia for a long time and she does know what has happened since 2014. This lady is definitely genuine. She just holds a more anti Putin view, but an honest one. He is definitely not a demon, but he definitely has his flaws. You should read her late husbands views - they were more kind to Russians perspective on how Ukraine has treated Russian ethnic people in the East since 2014.
I totally agree with you, she should expect that all the aggression in the world today is caused by America, she has no clue ,not interested in truth 🤭🤭
Read her husband Stephen Cohen's book " War with Russia" (2019) is one of the best analyses of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
Her a lying tool
NOTE : 57 (more like 54) billion given to Ukraine THIS YEAR ALONE.
Ukraine was given heaps of leverage and THE US/EU encouraged Ukraine not to accept. Now, as this war drags on, that leverage is shrinking.
Gas, oil and food... Is important and sanctions will implode the EU.
One question is, how much of this money did Ukraine receive?
@@MySyberWolf excellent question. They certainly burnt through the first 14 billion... Where did that go?
@@toshiyaar7885 I don’t know! 😲 Not the first 14 billion, not the rest of the money that hasn’t left the US. One thing is clear - all this money was taken out of the pocket of an American taxpayer and transferred to the accounts of some private US companies.🤠
thanks
If it weren’t for Patrick Lancaster, John Mark Dougan, Gonzalo Lira, The New Atlas, & IEarlGrey, Redacted & Eva Bartlett I wouldn’t know 95% of what’s actually going on in Ukraine.
Eva Bartlett too
Who? I've never heard of them and I'm always looking for unbiased news coverage which is hard to do when Corporate Media is in the thick of things!
@@residentgrey who?
@@michaelmaya7742 instead of asking, look her up. She has done countless interviews and reporting from Ukraine.
@@residentgrey I added her in the edit
One sided: 2 months ago the Australian national broadcaster had a TV program about this with an audience. A polite young man (looked like teenager) who said he was of both Russian and Ukraine backgrounds, asked the "experts" why there was not more about how the Russians felt about this. There was no answer.
He was ordered to leave the studio.
Suppose you could say the same thing about a north korean citizen being asked what they think of their leader >> without their risk of execution of course.
You have not been looking hard enough. anti Putin Russians are out there and in Russian prisons...but you missed that, eh?
You are referring to Stan Grant - An Australian "broadcaster" affiliated with the Military Industrial Complex and US State Department funded propaganda group ASPI (Australian Strategic Policy Institute). Grant is one of the chief propagandists for the Australian ABC Network, and probably one of the most prolific. Most of Grant's propaganda is focused on acclimatizing the Australian population for war with China, but he occasionally redirects his efforts to other Washington backed conflicts around the World. This "polite young man" was shut down by Grant because he dared to mention the thousands that have been killed by the Washington owned Ukrainian-puppets military attack on the Russian speaking population in the Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts in the East of Ukraine since the Washington (Victoria Nuland) Coup of 2014.
@@animalfarm7467 The Australian voices for the Fox News, right wing of the media is not a source I would ever take seriously for precisely the reasons you pointed out. However. He is just one voice in a sea of many. I am anti war but I do not advocate political stupidity or national suicide for the western nations. We must be ready for bad faith, bad actors like Putin. China if you are reading this. read, study on and learn.
@@roboldx9171 : I agree with almost everything you have said (~ Putin), and I respect your right to have an opinion. For this reason, may I suggest you log-off and recheck your comment. You may find you have been ghost banned for some reason in the past.
Just the usual American narrative unfortunately. DN needs to think about where they are placed. They seem to me to be slipping into supporting the US govt's position. Ms vanden Heuval is playing it safe and sticking to the script.
I agree with your assessment - she said the military aid was given to counter "Russian barbarians," as if US didnt behave in a more than " barbaric" manner, with almost satanic disregard for the life and rights of Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans, Syrians. And even earlier : before dropping the two atomic bombs on Japan, US AF firebombed its major cities with an experimental fissile glue that reduced their cities to ashes, which was an untested version of the napalm they would use later in Vietnam.
80% of the 2.3T spent on Afghanistan never left the country. This, Ukraine, is another gravy train for the same 1%.
Taiwon ?
how much do you think will be spent.
Kind if like the business model for felonious PhRMA.
See Pfizer profits go from 4 to 40 billion despite worst global economy ever.
Fear ignorance and PR are making a global killing like never before.
Thanks Demagogue ®¥ Now. The MadMen
Bingo. Unreported war scam. Rich profit from deaths and misery of the industrial slave class. Cleveland could use a billion or two to build rapid transit, solar power, education, what ever.
You don't seem to propose any solution to the problem of Russia invading Ukraine! So shut up and let those who are trying to help do what needs to be done!
Yes, diplomacy & backtracking by the west, giving up the Donbas & Crimea, just like Kissinger, shockingly to us peace-loving humane people, suggested.
Zelenskyy didn't give those up..... He's refusing to help them..... Refusing to accept them as part of Ukraine .... That is why Putin has to step in with Crimea--- it needed a land bridge it was drying out and the people werent being taken care of by Ukraine from the beginning because they are mostly russian people that live in the crimea and donbas
The people of the Donbass and Crimea overwhelmingly identify with Russia and do not want to be governed by the U.S.-installed, Nazi-infested Maidan coup regime in Kiev.
@@aaronaarons3859 Nice rounding out addition to my point, thank you.
That’s funny she called them barbaric, when the US invaded more than 80 countries 😂😂you guys could have gotten someone intelligent to interview.
This site is a waste of time if you are looking for unbiased info.
@Moni Penny
I agree. It’s unfortunate, the news is no longer news.
That's a rather simple view on things. And just because the US has done barbaric things doesn't mean that Putin's war isn't...
@@CARambolagen
Putin war is justified. Eliminate nazi, corrupt GOVT, chemical labs and most importantly homeland security due to nato expansion which is against agreement was signed and so on, Ukraine is on the border with Russia unlike Iraq , Afghanistan, Vietnam, Japan and the rest are 1000s of miles away. The US has most invasions under their belt, not to mention, the biggest difference is The US was never condemned by any country that counts..,,, etc
@@Hulk-g4v What a lot of rubbish! Ukraine gave up it's nuclear weapons to Russia in 1996 (+ Budapest Memprandum) and was fully independent since 1991 by referendum. All this goes to show, what happens if you are leaving yourself defenseless to imperialist Nazi Russia.
The problem is not in the media - these are the for-profit corporations, they do what they have to earn the money.
The problem lies with the general audience, that blindly believe what they're told.
The problem is in _us._
Wrong. The media has some blame. Ever heard of propaganda?
So how does the average person differentiate lies from truth then?
Sorry but you’re wrong to assume disinformation for profit as ok. Those in positions of influence have a duty to speak the truth.
Very wrong dude. An average Western person doesn't have time nor interest RESEARCHING the truth. He/she is so tired of work, seeking some mind and body refreshment and the last thing they have in mind is youtubing for some "far-far" country media to hear some balance. And when they hear: "PYUTIN" is guilty for gasoline prices, food prices rise- that's it. Who is PYUTIN? Ah that Russian... And the Russians are (in Holiwood) always bad guys...bad bad people.
@@andrewweber2010 Here's a fact: media lies all the time. Be it for political reasons, because they're financially invested, or because of just their own personal bias. You have to understand that, and be open to the critical thinking, and read through multiple sources from different sides to form your own opinion on the matter.
If you blindly believe that any single media source sells you, whichever it is - be it Fox, be it BBC, be it Russia Today, be it even Democracy Now! - you're already brainwashed by it and incapable of seeing the full picture.
Disinformation for profit is not _ok,_ but it's what actually happens in the world. To believe otherwise is to delude yourself. Media companies don't sell you the truth, they sell you an entertainment to support your worldview and bias.
It’s sad that this is what’s called opposition to establishment these days.
The problem with opposition is they are just western propagandists, they don't have their own money, intelligence and opinion.
Things, obviously, are not going well.
She's not really opposition.
Just another official mouthpiece.
@@numbersix8919 I haven't watch this show in a LONG time. I have lived outside the US since 2008. I just got this video recommended to me, and I checked it out. I remember Democracy Now as being pretty good at anti establishment programming during the Cheney presidency. I guess maybe it was just partisanship and not genuine pushback against the authority's messaging
@@paraguaymike5159 you are on point. If this is anti-establishment? We need Devine Intervention! If she criticizes Biden, she will be cancelled.
@@paraguaymike5159 Some corner has been turned, not just with DN, but in all institutions. It does appear to have begun alongside Russiagate.
Are you joking? So Russia is hitting Ukraine continuously and Ukraine is just losing 50-100s and Russia 1000s where are you getting this news and statistics. Zelensky is obviously cutting the numbers. Look at how many battalions are retreating every day. 👀
They are talking about solder losses. Russia is killing much more if you count civilians, way to go Russia!
Now I don't know how true the 30,000+ number is (no one truly does), but there are several reasons why the Russians are taking such heavy losses some of them are:
1. The Russian military has been terrible on multiple levels, their op sec, their tactics, their logistics, etc. The fact they've taken such relatively little land and had debacles like losing their flag ship to a country without a Navy is embarrassing to put it mildly.
2. They are in essence "brute forcing" their way through territory, while Ukraine is by in large willing to withdraw their forces if it's not a vital space of land.
3. Ukraine is the "home" country so they know the land much more than Russia does.
4. Last but not least, moral. Ukraine is essentially fighting for their existence, Russians are fighting for...
@@specialK319319 Russians are fighting for the existence of Russia. And what is your problem? Is it not because the West is no longer getting Russian resources for useless zeros in Western banks? But this is the West’s problem. You will get nothing more from Russia. Soon you will eat each other? Bon appétit. These are your problems!
@@MySyberWolf How the hell is an invading country "fighting for it's existence"? Like what kind of terrible, stupid logic is that? If anything Russia has made it's borders less secure as prior to the war Finland and Sweden weren't even remotely close to joining NATO, now it's a foregone conclusion. But keep believing the BS your government is telling you. You know when you're not even allowed to call the war for what it is, A WAR maybe just maybe your government is lying/hiding information from you. Just a crazy thought there.
Tell Mr. Sanders I'm world renown for defending Democracy and Freedom. When the Northern Union entered Kentucky, I lost all hope but knew our boots on the ground could count on oil supplies from the (redacted) to help the Coalition bring the Baathe Party (mostly made up of Saddamn Hussein's "administrators" according to Western news outlets) back into power a 3rd time.I will gladly advise Mr. Sanders and Gen. Patreus at the White House.
And tell the Shah of Iran: "Hell no, I won't go!" to any other UA-cam(TM) news network than DEMOCRACY NOW!
It's an insult to suggest that original US pursuit in UKraine was democracy and human rights.
??? Nonsense. NATO is protecting her own and if that means helping Ukraine keep those Black sea ports, the Ukraine heavy industry and grain baskets within the EU and American sphere of influence, avoiding Putin occupied Russia's black mailing tactics. So be it. Slava Ukraine.
@@roboldx9171 But Ukraine is neither in Nato nor in the EU. It isn't our own as you say (I live in an Nato country). It was also never in the American or the EU sphere of influence. This was a recent development (since 2014). And even so, this was always wishful thinking. The forced change of government in 2014 triggered an 8 year civil war. A war that was always going to end one way. I can understand why the Americans keep pushing this but what makes no sense whatsoever is why the EU is going along. Americans risk nothing here. It's the EU that's going to get destroyed economically here. And for what? For a country that's not in the EU, or Nato for that matter.
@@Screaming-Trees Therein is your problem. Ukraine is at this moment in time not EU nor NATO. She is also no longer is part of the old Soviet Russia. These Ukrainian people want to join the EU and NATO and not be a part of Putin's new Russian empire. However Putin wants to build a new Russian empire. Strategically, if Russia is allowed to occupy and suppress Ukraine, against the will of the Ukrainian people, incorporating and dissolving the Ukraine nation into Russia. 40 plus million Ukrainians will have not had any say in their own future. Putin occupied Russia will have expanded and strengthened her boarder's and ultimately be in a position to dictate, threaten and make war on another neighbouring country in her effort to build the new Putin Russian empire. At some point a NATO country and former Soviet nation will be where Ukraine is today triggering the IIIWW. If that is what you want to see. Carryon treating the Putin regime with kid gloves. The new Russian empire must be nipped in the bud now before the weed is allowed to run out of control. Victory to Ukraine.
@@roboldx9171 how's helping Ukraine keep those Black Sea ports going? Asking for a friend...
Moosa, I thought they were just stopping the spread of communism?? 🤔
News Flash!
The 'Establishment/MSM' = the 'military-industrial-corporate complex'.
'Who pays the piper, calls the tune'.
thank you for that illumination.
News flash! Russia has 20% of its manufacturing jobs in the manufacture of weapons. The US has 2%. Kind of not what your kind likes to hear. 😊
What Macron ment was: Putin don't humiliate us.
Because this is what really is going on.
Sadly, too late now. Macron could have done so much more after visiting Moscow in so friendly, almost emotionally elements by OPOSING THE SANCTIONS and putting pressure on Ukr Nazis. Unfortunately, he went into 3rd grade politician and 3rd grade country (after mighty USA and little bulli British bulldog) towards Mr Putin who, somehow "had a hope in Macron" to understand the Russian perspective....(you can't impose Flandrian language over French in Belgium next to France!!!! Nor German over French in Switzerland - I guess France would react!!!).
@@clintloranrand951 100% Agree.
ps: As someone who speaks the language, I am sorry to have to correct you but it's Flemish.
But you can say Dutch. It's the same but with a different accent and some different words.
It's a bit like American and British English.
@@clintloranrand951 Ukranians aren't nazis.
@@letsgorandom1380 OK WHAT ABOUT IF I HAD SAID FIAMMINGO? WOULD YOU CORRECT ME AS WELL? CLINT ARGUMENT WAS TO PRESENT A SIMILAR SCENARIO AND IF WE MISSPELLED OUR APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING AS PICKY
@@volvogoodtruck1117 VERLICHT? REALLY? WHAT IS A BANDERAS STATUE DOING IN MANY SQUARES OF WESTERN UKRAINE OR THE STREETS NAMED AFTER 2WW NAZIS?WHO KILLED 30000 POLISH JEWS? GERMANS? OR UKRAINIAN NAZI SUPPORTERS?
UKRANIAN SOCIAL POLICIED ARE NATIONAL SOCIALIST JUST LIKE THE TATOOS OF THE AZOV BATTALIION SO READ YOUR HISTORY BEFORE YOU TAKE SIDES
Remember there was almost a deal In April in Turkey. But suddenly Zelensky pulled out. Here is what happened: US and the UK said to Zelensky: you want our weapons, you keep fighting and blow up any peace deals. Being able to bring Russia down without sustaining casualties is just too irresistible for NATO. So the longer the war, the better. When it comes to geo-strategic interests, any talk of values and ideologies, hide far less noble goals.
That’s all fine and dandy. But Russia is emerging stronger out of this conflict. While the U.S. will be severely weakened.
They can’t possibly be this stoopid. Many Americans suspect this is the deliberate destruction of U.S. prestige and influence
I agree. Very unfortunately the US does not want peace. 😞
You don’t invade a sovereign nation and get to keep what you have stolen.
Putin is a nasty piece of work. He has stolen from his people, he has murdered his own people and he is continuing to repress his own people.
@@chrisperrins8082 Then ask yourself what American soldiers & mercenaries are doing in $yr1a and why are they stealing $yr1a’s oil and deliberately destroying its crops.
I’ll wait for you r answer
That is bull. Please don’t speak on things you have no idea about. It was an all or nothing for Russia. If you think Ukriane will ever give up the occupied territory. This war will last long after whatever end to cease fire comes.
If the US was at the place of Russia, nuclear bombs would have already been used. They used the "mother of all bomb" against talibans!!!
do you even know what the mother off all bomb's is made off .Thats what i thought let me educate you on that its just high explosives many magnitudes lower yield than even the smallest nuclear device. Most peope have know idea what justt a few thermal nuclear warheads would do two the earth it doesn`t really matter where there dropped MOAB`S is like comparing a spring shower two hurricane katrina
@@Hawks_Is_Hot Just by seeing some images of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I can imagine. From my uneducated position, I know only the West, the US, has ever done such barbaric action
Even Macron comment was biased. Talking about 'humiliating Russia, Putin". I don't think that's on the cards. I think it's the other way around. The EU is realising the complete mess it has helped sustain and there will be long term consequences including Energy insecurity, political insecurity, and an increased and ongoing level of risk, even after Russia accomplishes its objectives in Ukraine, which it will. After they tried for 8 years to negotiate a settlement, they will achieve their military objectives in Ukraine. The idea they won't is also western bias/strategy to help to send more weapons and prolong the war. Ukraine can't win. And the entire continent will be less secure. US happy a long way from the conflict, again.
When this war is over Ukraine will be in ruins. Zelenjski has been warned off not to negotiate with Putin and the European politicians are too cowardly to stand up to bully USA. After this Europe will be finished as an economic power. That is if the US decide not to push Russia into a nuclear war in which case Russia and Europe would be annihilated.
Absolutely true. Just to add: with 57 BILLION DOLLAR pumping somewhere in the name of a land far far away ( Ukraine), And Mr Zelenski ( a Jewish origin comedian actor - acting as president, not to mention a boxer being a nation's capital mayor) is all about MONEY LAUNDERING...
Facts
They haven't got a chance of humiliating Putin.
Russia have not negotiated only threatened and illegally occupied parts of Ukraine. Russia should leave Ukraine and start to pay for aall destruction and for all lives lost in Ukraine. Russia has become a evil country who should be ashamed for what it has become!
One sided debate? What debate has there even been?
Should people had a debate about Germany after start of WW2? Are there two sides
@@bipslone8880 There's been other wars in history other than WW2, it's US manipulation to only be able to frame any conflict through the lens of "the free world vs. nazism," you can understand that and still be critical of the Russian intervention
@@bipslone8880 yes absolutely they should have. The warmonger churchill had to have his war at all costs.
@@JoaoMoriera2 I have no idea what you are talking about. Russia invaded Ukraine.... what is the other side of the debate. You blame America for framing the Ukraine invasion as free world vs Nazism? What are you even talking about, who compared Russia to Nazism?
@@ianburkard What a bizarre way of thinking. Russia invades Ukraine, who is not a threat in any way, and you think there is no right side or good side? I would think it would be as obvious as it would be for a young child witnesses a bully picking a smaller child for their lunch money. This is complicated for you?
We Americans should realise that the world has changed. Rusdia and China are key players.
As for Ukraine, the war is lost.
Amy question you should but never ask:
Q. What are national security interests of America (the Washington/Wall Street corporate plutocracy)?
A. Washington global hegemony (world domination/US global empire ruled by the super rich in the interests of only themselves.
A. To contrary, this administration is so terrified of escalating this conflict, they have delayed weapons deliveries to the point thousands more than necessary are dying. I’m somewhat of a pacifist but I must accept Ukrainians seem to be fighting to prevent another Holodomor, so the hegemony of Russia is not an option for them. If European corporate interests were the force here, why do they bother to struggle with Poland and Hungary’s rejection of LGBTQ laws and separation of powers.
So accurate
"The nuclear expansion of Reagan and Gorbachev" -- talk about both-sides-ism.
What a tame little critic we have here. Not a word about what has really gone on in Ukraine since 2014.
Trying to keep her job?
Interesting
She’s a columnist at wapo now too. She is not informative here and she is outright one-siding it too. Pretending to say something when saying nothing. No courage. I dropped my subscription for The Nation years ago.
@@barbh1 Yeah...but what is her job? She must be very trusted within the media establishment (CIA).
14.000 killed in Donbass, mostly civilians. Then they wonder why Russia invaded and call it "illegal" smh...
The entire conflict was avoidable. If not for American hubris and soft imperialism, and obsessive fixation with weakening both Russia and China (Russia is a lot easier for USA to try to weaken at this point though).
Literally this whole war is about the USA wanting to put more military bases and forces into the most sensitive possible "country" to Russia, Ukraine. Ukraine has been a part of Russia for like 1,000 years but nobody in USA knows that of course. The idea that Russians would just accept this is crazy, why does U.S. govt push so much for it? Why not simply say to Russian govt ok we won't ever make Ukraine into a military alliance? What is the "cost" for USA of that sort of a compromise? The only "cost" is a psychological one, since USA thinks it is the world's #1 and doesn't have to ever make any agreement with any other country for any reason.
And the "sanctions" are profoundly immoral and also wrecking havoc worldwide. And are probably going to cost Biden's own political party control of Congress due to exacerbating the pandemic-based inflation so badly! Especially with gas prices.
It's just TOTAL madness and here in USA our news on anything Russia based is COMPLETELY negative and our politicians are always competing to see who can say the most EXTREME and LOONY hateful bigoted anti Russia nonsense.
Really sick of all this
So, we just let Putin go? I guess you have no family in Ukraine so you do not care. Would you love to live under Putin's ,"freedom"? Is he hunting Nazi's? Get a grip and quit trying to equivocate everything. Putin is a new Stalin, someone you need to read about to understand your friend Putin. You want Putin to be strong? If it is all the same to you, you should move to Moscow. Your friend gives 15 year prison sentences for calling the war in Ukraine a war. Reality matters.
Did you take a look at Russian TV recently? If you haven't, you don't know what hateful and bigoted is.
@@adrien5834 Why watch Russian T.V? You can not even call a war a war. So were is the reality?
@@derwolfpack3599 Why tell me, though? I'm not Russian and I can call this war whatever I like...
U.S. led NATO expansion is about power projection on another continent. While hiding behind two oceans. If America had a lousy neighbor, they would not have to come halfway around the world for a fight.
How about a discussion on the long time US strategy to create this war? Who is barbaric?
No, thank you. That s not really relevant in the moment. Now Ukraine needs weapons.
@@TTT-ic1rb What for? So they can shell civilians in Donetsk. That's what they have been doing. What military strategic value does that have? None. The main purpose of sending weapons is to line the pockets of the war profiteers.
@@freedomofpress5605 I don`t think fighting in the Donbass is wise for Ukraine. I think they should focus on their priorities. But I do think Russia is completely wrong in waging this war.
@@TTT-ic1rb The west was completely wrong in starting the war. Russia is justified in ending it.
@@TTT-ic1rb You are a clown bro🤡🤡... Ukranian soldiers are shelling civilians in the east... stop watching cnn,bbc etc or any western media
Good try. But fell short of really understanding Russia's side of the issue. For that, you have to go back to 2014 and further to NATO's expansion into Eastern Europe.
You spot on she tried ignoring that
Or further to 1991 when 92% voted for ukraines independance. Russia recognising ukraine and putins now long drawn out campaign to reverse that decision firstly
by interfereing politically through yanukovych and even poisoning during the orange revolution. Russian state tv saturating the border areas housing the russian speakers there for over 20 odd tyears. No doubt influencing politically and creating ethnic division. Its never been about nato expansion. He, as are all dictators , is far more
concerned about democracy expansion. But much more than that he wants to turn the clock back to 1990 and restore the lost empire again
She forgot to mention that this started in 2014, not 100 days ago. Shoddy work
really to understand go to WW1
Most of my life, I've found attempting to have a discussion about much of anything is impossible. If it can't be described in 10 words or less, their eyes glaze over.
Also, people expect you to have either a conservative or a liberal position. If you have an alternative perspective, they get that glazed over look.
Both observations are true. People like to live like egoistic animals more often than not.
It's not the same in Europe, Russia and the Arab countries. I have only experienced it in the US!
That’s because the lack of understanding and stupidity has been cultivated for years.
The hallmarks of a base , imbecilic rabble .
Amy ask;
Q. What is this barbaric Russian behaviour?
A. Resisting criminal Washington hegemony.
Why does the US government has no problem spending so much on war? But don't want to reparations, school, health, housing, solving homelessness and drug addiction, mental illness
I think the answer is in your question already.
US want to keep the people in their influence as weak as possible, so that their own political interests shone brighter than the sun.
This interview danced around everything but the core issue - NATO expansion. Her discussion of independent Russian media and projecting that opinion on to large numbers of people was ridiculous. These outlets are not independent. Many of them receive funding from NGOs that are funded by the US state department. Spare us the BS
DN = kosher nostra deep state BS
In the past Katrina vanden Heuvel has pointed out that the core issue that brought about this war has been NATO expansion, and the consequential serious security concerns this would pose for Russia, as well as the divisiveness this would cause within Ukraine. She has changed her tune lately, unfortunately, though still admitting this is a proxy war engaged in by the US.
Yup the new atlas exposing them too
Yes the core issue is why does everyone want to join NATO? Putin will make up some excuses to attack his neighbors regardless of the situation.
This whole topic is just an excuse by russia. The response of russia in regards to finland joining NATO was very passive for example even if the strategic implication are even worse than ukraine joining.
Intellectuals no fly zone.
Anyone flying there will be accuse of supporting Russian misadventures in Ukraine and be cancelled.
Yes you have a great point about USA and China relationships. It’s time someone pulled so heads out of the sand.
There is no relationship between China and USA. There is a relationship with Russia, India, Africa and China. USA is just the rabid dog that for the moment we have to be wary of.
The U.S. constantly criticizes China, who has done nothing to us. They have a more democratic govt. and a better economy than the U.S.
Xi Jingping and Papa Vladimir Putin and their ☢️ will make Chow Mein out of AmeriKKKa
style!” 💀🦇💀🦇💀☢️💀💩🧻💩🦨🧻🧌💀🧻💀🍾🥂💀🧨💀🧌🇺🇸💀🇬🇧💀🇫🇷
Can you tell me what China is doing wrong? Seems to me they just want to continue to trade while the USA runs around threatening China and arming dissidents, which it has been doing to many countries to instigate conflict and destroy other countries' economies because real fair trade is done better by China. They are not bombing anyone to start so are likely to be favoured over the Bully States.
Main-streamed media never had felt an amount of pain that they deserve for what they've done to our society
another tryhard troll. everyone is always laughing at you
You gonna get out your assault weapon, bot?
@@Don-md6wn You gonna stay bent over and asking for more, sheep?
@@williammartin9783 Enjoy the hearings Thursday night, traitor.
Pain? They got paid.
The "proxy war in Ukraine" means Ukraine is fighting for whom? Remember Boris Johnson and Antony Blinken's response when Zelensky made the first attempts to negotiate an end to the conflict in Istanbul in March?
NATO
We are fighting them there, because we can't fight them here. US Senator
In Febuary Putin told the world , "we will not invade Ukraine, 2 weeks later he did. The plan was probably a year old by then, that would explain all of Russia's early invasion wins.
The longer this war is extended, the more profits will be made from weapons sales as well as the billions upon billions of dollars in bank loans needed to rebuild the country afterwards. There are some who would love to see this go one for a couple of years.
The solution to what you regard as the problem is very easy. It starts with Russia.
@@nic969 Nice try. It will END with/by Russia!! Check it out!
It’s not up to the US establish the rules on Russian native land which is Kyivan Rus. The U.S. influence and NATO should stay out of that, this isn’t Afghanistan.
@@nic969 Right... We should probably just ask Mr. Putin to withdraw his forces from Ukraine. I'm sure that will work. hahaha
The best way to end the war is to give Putin what he wants. Zelenskyy must step down and Ukraine can no longer have a military.. Any truce, Putin will likely try again as he does not Ukraine should exist at all, but if it does, it must be a vassal state.
It is funny that people with “cooler” head still tries not to appear as “poo-tin lover” or “Russian asset” by occasionally throwing criticism on Russia by calling the war “barbarism”. I bet she did not call the 2nd Iraq invasion barbarism.
I have you ever read the Nation?
This isn't her opinion, really. All was is barbarism, I think we can agree.
The extreme right of Ukraine will never allow Zelensky to negotiate terms that will end the war. This is never mentioned in these debates. Zelensky might have a social media following but he is naive and doesn't really have much control in negotiations.
Zelensky is not naiv, he´s a kosher nostra actor/muppet and paid well.
@@halloola3636 Exactly. Also sending many Ukrainian men to die when he could have agreed to a very reasonable peace deal. That I would call evil.
@@halloola3636 Zelensky was naive at the start. He didn't even think a war was going to occur despite the clear message from Biden. He didn't prepare his country for war and this is a greater indication that he had no clue what was going on. Now he is in a big mess that he doesn't know how to end or control as the days go by.
he's a yoo.
the yoos dont care about many actual humans die, as long as at least one yoo profits....and he's making a lot of money off sending the ukranians to the meat grinder.
i cannot support the yoos, or any other na-zis.
and i also cannot support anyone who supports them.
@@lialia-kz4jc one more potato, you can go to the beach and have a beer.
What is she talking about ? Russia invaded Ukraine and the US is helping Ukraine. If the US was invaded they would defend themselves as well, and ask for support if they needed it. This lady has spent too many years being close to Russia.
She's a dogmatic reactionary. Can't think for herself.
Dear Amy and the staff of Democracy Now, can you please report on the next imminent conflict between Israel and Lebanon while Israel is seizing the opportunity that everyone is busy with the Ukraine war to explore oil and gas off the coast of Lebanon. This could escalate into a regional war that could be devastating to many countries and people. The EU and Washington should step in and make sure this issue is addressed fairly. Many American Jews like myself hope for a real cooperative future based on respect and fairness toward the people of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and the region since they all live on the same continent.
That's never going to happen at DN. I don't think they ever covered the struggles of the surviving crew of the USS Liberty.
Sorry dear. But the EU and Washington need that oil to go through Egypt from Israel to Europe. Need I explain why?
Sorry keep on dreaming. America is control, direct and lead by the same Zio-Oligarchy Mafia who is behind the Ukrainian war, the ME wars and is now provoking another war in Lebanon. We the American people and western people have no other choice to accept our fate or put a stop to their evil.
@@ernestoliver4609 God and religion always had been used to crush, enslave, robb and steal nations. The closer example is Palestine. But we criticize Russia from entering their historical territory which is Ukraine. We criticize Saddam when entered their historical territory which is Kuwait. But we don't criticize the British Pirates for keeping Las Malvinas, for keeping Gibraltar, North Ireland. Us keeping the Native American historical territories. Us keeping the Guantanamo base historical territories. So who are we to criticize.
Russia is not chilling dissent in the way that the West is uniforming a narrative. There is good reason to believe that Russians, in the main, are keenly aware of larger perspectives.
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Disagree with this BS
@@allanvodicka8352 disagree that media is one-sided on Ukraine ?
US sends los of money to Ukrania, but forgets to help our people inside the US, poverty. Drugs,... US also forgets people in central America. Unbeleiveble!!!!
Katrina, what is "extraordinary" about Zelensky? If my memory serves me right, Russia did not start this war, the U.S. & Ukraine did.
What the hell are You talking about? Are You blind?
Ukraine did not start attacking Russian civilians. Ukraine did not start bombing their cities. Ukraine did not start the war. What Ukraine did, is that they wanted to decide for themselves. This obviously doesn't fit for Moscow, because for them Ukraine is not a country - and this whole concept of Russia aiming to be a new empire like during the tsarist times is just laughable.
Lol…. Do you also think that Poland attacked Germany in 1938?
@@brahmdorst5154 what? Are you serious?
No your memory doesn’t serve you right. I think you are maybe wearing blinkers. Either that or you have been listening to Tucker Carlson and Noam Chomsky.
since the people of usa tend to have a very difficult time understanding even the most basic things.
here's an analogy for you.....
imagine mexico, canada, cuba, jamaica, and japan all allow russia to build military bases and place all sorts of missiles and other weapons there......how would usa react?
exactly....
hopefully that clears that up for you.
also how can you support the yoos and other na-zis?!
@LactoseTheIntolerant Russia has shown exemplary restraint. The opposition does not know what that means at all.
No. Most of America sees through the bullshit.
@@residentgrey
i know most of america can. i'm a real american.
i was talking about usa. they would react like russia did. and they would blame all of us.
but currently they side with the yoos.
@@sabin97 the ones you refer to at the end were supposed to become allies, UKR and that genocidal apartheid state. The extremists organizations had a chance to rise but L-N-ski screwed up by referring to this situation as comparable to what happened in the camps. That apartheid state could have led the no-fly zone and been integral to the outcome, but NOPE. it is as if the many groups don't want every one to thrive but only their faction to dominate over the rest of them and the world.
@@residentgrey
usa supports the yoos.
they are willing participants in the atrocities.
i cant wait for usa to fall. and then the yoos.
Freedom for Julian Assange!
You failed to mention the 1994 Trilateral Statement and the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances. Based on your reporting it’s ok to go back on the security assurances the United States promised after taking part in disarming Ukraine of its nuclear power. Great “open minded” reporting!
Well said, sir. She says that MSM gives no historical context, then goes on to entirely forget history.
And this womans logic is basically saying, ignore past agreements and just give up your right to defend yourself, give the Russians what they want so you can move on. Crazyness. I would not want her in my corner is the Russians invaded my country.
Did Ms vanden Heuvel point out that DN has been parroting Azov/CIA propaganda?
@@luperamos7307 You were told? Well, that settles it then. When countries want to join NATO, isn't that their decision? That is not the West expanding, it's countries choosing not to live under Russian control.
Yea I appreciate Democracy Now platforing many different voices but sometimes these “anti war” people can sound SO naive.
Afghanistan , 20 years , 1 trillion and run with the tail between the legs , viva usa... thats what everyone calls a supreme victory🤣🤣🤣
American MSM's approach to the War in Afghanistan. 🙈🙉🙊
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You do realize that was part of the plan. Look at how many Arms manufacturer's made bank off the U.S. buying weapons in mass from them going into the hundreds of billions. It may have been a set-up
@@kordell9864 i do , wars are all always economic and the winner is the one that makes the most money in this case the MIC
@@noneinparticular2338 Yes but they delibrately kept a war(military invasion) going all in the name of making money and disguised as "fighting terrorism" which they bought and paid for through the Saudi's and whatever BS CIA experimental(MK Ultra) programs they had to use to keep up they terrorist campaign. The U.S. military was and is way more capable to kill all the terrorist in the world in 1 year but chose not too.
Good analysis but without taking into account the military industrial complex and their profit is totally incomplete
I mean, Democracy Now does talk about them in every second broadcast.
Amazingly proPutin. How much did she get paid? As much as Tucker?
roll up the shades and have another listen
@@jacpratt8608 I did listen to her talk about how we should be concerned about Putin's feelings and how we need to be concerned about how he can save face. ProPutin. She is on the payroll.
Heuval starts by saying that the media needs to provide better coverage of the history of this conflict; but when given a platform provides no history. Make no mistake; Heuval is arguing for appeasement .
Watch the segment over again. She did not say that. Unless you have your own preconceived notions.
@@larryhovekamp4318 start around 1:53 to 2:23
Appeasment is usually better than death but when appeasing the USA Oligarchy death is probably a reasonable choice. Many living on the streets of the USA are living in a hell without any hope of redemption .
I'm a former US army soldier but I stand with Russia
Because you are a sensible American and a patriot! 🤝
Deliberately choosing the biggest country with second biggest army as your enemy is stupidity beyond PhD level
LOL
Except for one thing. Our military-industrial-congressional complex never recovered from our Cold War economic addiction. We need it bad.
And largest stoke-pile of nukes. You forgot that one.
Yes Russian military ranked #2 attacking much smaller Ukraine ranked #22. Putin is Hitler and a bully.
Idiocracy!
Just few days ago poll shows Putin has 70% of support for his action!
I think there’s a detachment from reality here. Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around, and the rationalizing about the “corporate media” really has no relevance.
No! The U.S. and Ukrainian Nazis jointly overthrew the friendly-to-Russia elected President of Ukraine in 2014 and have been murderously trying to impose the rule of this coup regime on the largely ethnic-Russian population of Eastern Ukraine since then. The Russian intervention should have happened years ago.
The conflict is not "Russia" and "Ukraine" in isolation.
Ukraine was basically a province of Russia for about 1,000 years. The USA (a more powerful country than Russia) is surrounding Russia with military forces, after having spent decades encouraging the sort of ethnic separatisms that resulted in the creation of Ukraine as a separate country. The borders of this Ukraine are very modern and do not reflect the true ethnic-linguistic realities.
This is Ammee, distorts the connection between one fact and another. Instead of simply saying: Russia launched a missile into Kyiv in response to the US supplying long range missile to Ukraine. That is the whole story, that is the fact that matters. Interpretation should come afterwards. Russia appeared to be demonstrating its capacity to hit any target it chooses in Ukraine in response to Ukraine being supplied with long range missiles.
Good point, I must say. It can scan.
No! We want to know what the target was. There's supposed to be a journalist. They intentionally do not tell us what the Russians were aiming at. I'd have to go to the mod Ministry of Defense Daily Report and find out from the Russians. Because our journalist won't tell us.
Yeah and no deaths just a railway inside Kiev and the audacity that they claimed Russias goal was to kill as many people, how can the media say such contradicting statements
Except that in no scenario was NATO or Ukraine going to ever commit suicide by attacking a nuclear powered country and cause nuclear missiles to kill tens of millions. There’s that. But it does turn out that having weapons to defend themselves themselves against a bloody war of imperialist aggression by Putin was actually a pretty good idea and has helped save some innocent lives.
@@petercornwell5880 Yes but the innocent lives of people with Russian ancestry whose many lives have been lost in the lead up to this conflict and after the intervention. There won't be a nuclear response from Russia unless someone is stupid enough to use them against it. But any nuke launched will be intercepted more or less above the launch site and the shit will drop on who ever is below.
I don't want any money or weapons for Zelensky's personal war.
Indeed in Rusia there could has not a real opossition, so in USA: the republicans and democrats are the same, so there is not opossition.
well put!
Both parties have shares in the weapons manufactures (maybe except the Kentucky senator, Rand Paul). The have large profits from the proxy war.
Watch the channel of Russell Brand, he talks a lot about how all left and right and centre politicians are the same - corrupt.
The only difference between the Republicans and the
Democrats is God. The
Republicans believe in a Power beyond themselves while the
Democrats believe in the Philosophies of
Fools.
Can you negotiate with an alligator about your hand when it’s got your arm?
the russian federation went to the aid of slavic ukranians subjected to war crimes for the past eight years. Not neglecting the international crime against humanity after the ukraine cut off crimeas water supply after their referendum to join the federation. The minsk accord recognises the autonomy of eastern states, they invited the russian federation with permission from the lawfully elected president of the ukraine! So your claim the special operation is an invasion and illegal is entirely erroneous!
Unlike what NATO is doing under the mantle of operation freedom occupying numerous territories without invitation...and has been doing so for more than two decades! Specifically the congo basin to southern syria and northern oil fields! Syria's army wiped out dhesh in the first few weeks, till the u.s. imposed sanctions! Syria has the fifth most professional army in the world!
The world has had enough of the dollars weaponised hegemony, never has the u.s. honoured an international debt obligation and that is before dropping the gold standard! Africa knows especially well how the scammers of fiat ponzi conduct themselves.
Long life Russian and Russia
Yes..!!!
“The world is in more peril from those who tolerate evil or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.” -Dr. Albert Einstein, 1953
Both are like two peas in the rotten pod
I'm getting tired of seeing this quote make up your own
@@broly2900 so sorry that you are so tired. Must be tough for you.
@@3ehahn no it's tough for me to watch people like you to be brainwashed by mainstream media
And able to think of your own
Fascinating. I'm wondering if Jews who experienced the business end of Nazism feel the same. One point: it would seem that encouraging evil...IS evil. For example, we know that the Azov Battalion, a critical element of Ukraine's military, was on America's terrorist watch list. Yet...the United States both funded the Azov Battalion and provided them weapons. Smells like encouragement to me. In fact...a large segment of America supports the current Ukrainian ethno-fascist regime. I guess that means that the United States is...🤔
> Expert on Russia
> "Russian unprovoked barbaric aggression..."
This is the opposition...
Is it only me or you see how she reads her statements from some script.. im not even commenting what she is saying, just feeling bit odd seeing this.
100% agreed
Yeah, it’s only you
Hmm, I didn't notice this. Will look again, thanks.
As long as Main stream media stays traceable connected to the arms industry, why should they NOT paddle "threats for clicks"? they get paid for the articles by the MIC, and get sales/ad- revenue on top of that. And as long as the fear persists, the clicks will follow. Every human being has a "Super weapon" between his ears. If he/she intents to use it like that. Do i have to be afraid of everyone? No. Even if they conceal carry, they still need a reason to draw.
Katrina: As long as your enemy is holding a gun on you, you have to continue holding your gun on the enemy. It is just reality. To put your gun down would be suicide. You need to understand this.
Ukraine is reaping what it sows. UNESCO is having to rescue Africans who the Ukrainians would not allow out of the country and who are stuck in detention camps in Poland.
I'm still waiting I'll get back to you later on thank you
I watched until she did not call Zelenski extraordinary person...
Extraordinary liar and manipulator
She said clearly "57 millions was given to Ukraine during the LAST YEARS"
Dear humanity, take your own outcomes
Very unlikely Russia will settle for another Minsk type agreement
Nah, they've lost trust in Ukrainian government as well as the west collectively. So, they'll try to invade the whole country or force a total surrender and a regime change in Kiev, before stopping! If they settle for anything less, the Ukrainian war will return in 5-10 years when they rebuild their military again and try to take back their land.
The war in Irak was instead very “legal“ 😉
And it only slaughtered 500,000 people or so...
Don't forget the children who died because of the sanctions
This is not a proxy war.
Zelensky obeys the pentagon who will extend the war to every last Ukrainian boy. No doubt about that.
Just like Putin. Poor example.
"When everbody thinks alike means no body is thinking".
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That is what happens when all MSM report everything in unison.
It would highly benefit mainstream news media journalists to study Russian history, culture, and politics, to be able to properly comment and analyze this great and sovereign nation. It should also be noted in any analysis, how the USA and its proxy puppet nations, have created a negative and vilified picture of Russia in its entirety.
The conflict in Ukraine was started and crafted by the USA and NATO, and not by Russia. The end result, including the thousands who've died and millions of displaced civilians, should only be blamed upon those that are fully responsible for this proxy war, and those who continually have promoted this aggression against Russia.
It's highly uneasy to listen to American neoliberal narratives on this channel.
I've decided to unsubscribe.
😂 Jesus, I don't remember when was the last time I read such a crap. You'd better give up on vodka Ivan
Prepare for the McCarthyite smears. You don't dare speak out against war and imperialism or you're being a bad American.
Democracy Now is just propaganda.
All invasions are barbaric or just the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
Pretty much all. Can you think of any non-barbaric invasions? Are you trying to justify invasions?
Perhaps Macron will except France's loss of one fifth of their territory.
Macron didn't evaporate 14,000 Russian Speaking citizens, nor did he mainstream an antisemitic Azov Battalion into his military, he didn't promise neutrality while preparing for war, and he didn't cut off all fresh water to Crimea. 🤷
We need real debate on Ukraine? We have a wealth of it. She said absolutely nothing new that we are not constantly reading on both sides of the issue. What planet is this journalist on?
Barbarism of Russia? well, one could say the same for the US, if Katrina placed it in that context.
Didn’t Hillary Clinton say the favourable situation would be similar to that of the Soviet Afghan war? Cause that turned out well for everyone didn’t it Hillary? 🤦♂️
After Helsinki Russian State News said "Putin owns trump" after traitor Trump surrendered in SYRIA without consulting the US MILITARY, Russian State News said "Putin owns trump AGAIN". Joint Chiefs informed traitor trump that Putin has put a bounty on our MILITARY and traitor Trump did nothing and kept silent. Wonder what percentage of the Putin bounty on o ur soldiers do republican voter's get for being silent about this.
Stephen Cohen, G-d bless his soul, must have turned over in his grave on a few points Katrina made.
Katrina, if your freedom and safety was at risk from these Russian marauders would you feel the same way, I doubt it, you would want American boys to continue fighting to keep you and your family safe, freedom is not free!
So fight on your own. Dragging MY FAMILY into a possible nuclear war to fight for the most corrupt governments in Europe, Nazis in their ranks? Fuck that and fuck them. They wanna keep fighting? Do it on your own WITHOUT my tax money, leave my country out of it
What do Ukrainian citizens (not politicians) lose if they end up on the other side of the border meaning under Russian control, what do they lose exactly?
So what about the 8yrs conflict and 14,000 killed with Ukrainians killing Russian speaking Ukrainians for wanting to speak their language…
you have it ass-backwards. If the Ukrainians hadn't been shelling the civilian population of the Donbas we wouldn't be where we are. IT was their 'freedom and safety' that was threatened. More than threatened. Hence their plea to Russia for protection. Ukraine - or Zelensky to be specific - has only itself to blame.
@@xD3MONxIxSOULx The promise of western wealth at some point in the future? But in reality, they would lose the continued violence in their country. And the weapons and dollars from the US so that they can keep on fighting Russia.
USA and Europe has a responsibility to prevent fascist expansion. If only it would effectively do this elsewhere. But here it has a real chance.
If the Russian war is illegal then Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan was far more illegal. Their threat was thousands of miles from the US. Ukraine is right on Russias boarder.
Well Zelensky old lady was on a diamond shopping spree in South France.🤔 What happens if the USD loses reserve currency status? Fair World Order
@ Jim Beam .....yawn blah blah
@@evieshore3270 Bahaha! Sure, kosher nostra plutocracy can´t fail, right?
Got a source for that accusation lol
Would someone please explain Goodman's characterization of Rand Paul as "anti civil rights"? Thanks.
She´s a deep state muppet posing as "leftist" while using far right slander and lies...
I’m wondering the same.
How refreshing to hear Katrina correctly call this a US "proxy war." I've been a bit on the fence with Democracy Now for a while but this video and the one covering the "Global Embarassment" of the Americas Summit bust have restored my faith. Good work.
In three months, DN has had two level-headed, analytical, dispassionate guests- Vijay Prasad and Katrina VandenHuevel. Thank you! The rest have been western cheerleaders to one degree or another. Please continue to do better Amy. Otherwise the corporate media KVH refers to is YOU.
Putin has his own cheerleaders. Van den Heuvel is one of them. Consistently.
I'm afraid it's only Vjay - Katrina isn't as one-sided as A. Lieven but she's clearly leaning towards the American Way of things, even commenting at last (among several other remarks in her time here) that neither China nor Russia are to be "admired" - see the impassioned language there? what's that supposed to mean? not admired for their lack of freedom of expression, or because they seek a sovereign path for themselves? this choice of words echoes Macron's "humiliated" - how exactly is anyone, for that matter, "humiliating" Russia? they could wipe out all of Europe in like half an hour if they wanted or had to, so I really doubt their Ukrainian strategy has been a "failure." if anything they've been very lenient with US interference not to escalate the war to really dangerous levels.
I'd like to see her or Lieven debate with someone like R. Medhurst or Pepe Escobar.
@@perisemiotics3204 Pepe Escobar, a real leftist, will never be featured on this kosher-nostra deep state channel...
@@leonaessens4399 Define cheer-leading in this context. Encouraging him to take more Ukrainian territory? Hoping that Russian forces kill more Ukrainian forces? Speaking well of him as a leader/person publicly?
@@leonaessens4399 you’re right, Putin has hundreds of cheerleaders giving interviews about how the not see units tortured them, kept them hostage, would fire at groups trying to escape, kill people escaping or tie them to outside poles with their clothes pulled down.
Sure some could be propaganda or given under duress but there are literally hundreds of videos of families giving these interviews. They give full names, dates, addresses of buildings like schools and hospitals those not see units would setup bases in, addresses of incidents that happened. It goes on and on. The western side has nothing like it. In fact the main stories that come out end up being lies later.
Katrina has been marginalized at the Nation on the subject of Russia, whilst Amy has become a fervent pro war voice
"has become"?
this kosher nostra muppet has been a deep state tool from the start...
"dictator Assad gassed rebels", "terrorist Gaddafi",... all memes spread by Amy...
You're insane.
Amy is not only pro war and ruso fobic she is a fervent american fascist and imperialistic
@@Don-md6wn I know what you are but what am I? Lol
Things are looking slightly different than they did 3 months ago. “It is easier to start a war than end a war”. That is an argument that should be directed to Putin, not Biden. I am getting a little tired of having to remind people that it was Putin who started the war NOT Biden. No one is forcing the Ukraine to fight.
These kind of people exist within a very myopic western centralized bubble. They cannot begin to understand the agency of others, because they don't believe they have any. It's a world view that kinda borders on conspiracy theory thinking. Which is the reason why its generally promoted by cranks.
"This is more dangerous than the Cuban missile crisis" legendary warning!
From the Cuba experience, USA enacted the Monroe Document essentially stopping any country near USA from putting foreign weapons close to the USA. But in Ukraine they have done exactly that. Putting foreign weapons (USA/NATO) within striking distance of Russia. Just as Kennedy was prepared to act against Soviets, Russia is prepared to act against Ukraine. Americans don't understand Russia is doing exactly what Kennedy would have done if the Soviets had not rerouted their missiles.
We don't need debate. Russia needs to get out of Ukraine.
Russia is humiliating west already. Winning economic war already as well as winning militarily. NATO is not credible anymore and USA´s hegemony is over. Or anybody could believe that USA would retaliate , if Russia would send a NUKE against Poland for instance to stop arms deliveries? Would USA risk for the sake of Poland , that Russia would turn USA´s big cities into radioactice glass within two hours? After this war it is clear, NATO is just good for promoting USA´s interests in Europe, not for real war....It is all done, Russia under sanctions, Ukraine on steroids from USA and Europe.. and it is already clear what is going to happen... What USA should have given to Ukraine was just one signature, prior this war- assuring Russia , that NATO(understand USA) would never expand in to Ukraine... That would be the best and cheapest way to keep Russians home. USA´s greed did not let this to happen(even Putin was asking for it last year several times)
@@mirekslechta7161 this is not a game! People are dying for your ego trip. Disgusting behavior.
Russia will not stop with Ukraine... There is Moldova and Poland and the Baltics ... Please stop appeasement
I love how these two speak about this while seemingly oblivious to the essential reality of USA foreign policy - which is exploitative, dominating, aggressive imperialism. It is evil, to be blunt, and the direct historical cause of Russia invasion.
It's a genteel discussion as inoffensive to the Western ear as possible.
@jesusthief
I also recommend Jackson Hinkle, Richard Medhurst, Scott Ritter, Douglas Macgregor, Patrick Lancaster...
It is not clear that the Russian military intervention was illegal. When Russia intervened a large scale attack on the Donbas had just begun. Its artillery preparation has been registered by the OSCE. Article 51 of the UN Charter confers the right of preemptive war in case of an imminent attack. Russia had recognised the two Donez Republics as independent and concluded an assistance treaty with them. Russia could also appeal to the Responsibility to Protect which the Clinton Administration introduced into the UN Charter.
Macron needs to shut up regarding Ukraine 🇺🇦. He should talk about the reparations of Haiti 🇭🇹 the 120 billion dollars that were taken from Haiti 🇭🇹.
Dr. John Mearsheimer would be an excellent guest. Please consider.
Yeah...he can answer questions regarding his statements that Putin would have to be an insane idiot to invade Ukraine.
@@drmodestoesq And yet Putin is neither insane nor an idiot. Mearsheimer is considered one of the worlds greatest thinkers in international relations, specializing in US-Russo relations.
@@drmodestoesq Perhaps you speak fluent Russian, and have studied-taught history for over fifty years
@@michaelg7520 At least I knew that President Biden's vast network of intelligence agencies which had penetrated the Russian government knew what they were talking about when they said Putin is going to invade Ukraine.
Mearsheimer and his ilk thought that was irrational panic mongering.
What passes for strategic analysis in the mind of his type looks more like wishful thinking in the minds of people with common sense.
@@michaelg7520 Merkel speaks fluent Russian and she bought Putin's lies, hook, line and sinker.
Stupid appeasers. There's absolutely no point in negotiating with someone who doesn't negotiate in good faith, and who only understands brute force.
Didnt we try their bs back in 2014? The less Putin is humiliated, the more likely they are to try to take more
It has been Ukraine that has not negotiated.
Crimea, Donbass,, Russians have lived there for GENERATIONS!! have the right to their language and WILL NOT HANG THE PORTRAIT OF THE BANDIT S Bandera in the dining room !! and I also would not like to become a Ukrainian !!!! GOT LOST !!!!
The Corporate MSM promote the
Interests of the MIC.
Putin is promoting the profits of the MIC by invading a sovereign nation.
Hell, I would have bought shares in Bayraktar. Of course, I would have given the profits to the Ukrainian war relief.
Its funny I don't think Russian threatens using the term nuclear power or nuclear war 20 times a day. Just us 🇺🇸❤
It's not true, but one time is not funny. You don't have a clue
Why is NATO involved in a non NATO Treaty country? Why have NATO in the first place?
Even Vandenhuval has to genuflect before she starts telling some truths.
Remember she is Washington Post columnist,. Zuckerburg's paper.