As efficient as peacekeeping commanders are, the Barbs in LK are just too strong. Non peacekeeping commanders like Nevsky, Joan P, Scipio P, and ZL MUST be factored into the equation because of not only their dmg output but the buffs/debuffs they provide that peacekeeping commanders simply don't have. And when it comes down to it-the man is entitled to spend his own action-points how he sees fit.
@@damienlee54exactly, but yet again, I've seen strong accounts like arvix barbing and he was using his field marches, it shredded a lvl 55 barbarian like nothing. I guess more people need to learn more about the game
Gold isn‘t inefficient in packs because the nodes also contain 1/3 of the amount and as far as I know it’s also 1/3 the gathering speed. We just get scammed with gold cost
exactly so i you do decide to mine gold, then you need to mine 3x more than what you would with normal rss and on top of that also gather way slow, slower so you get about 1/6 the value while on packs its 1/3 value, so spending packs on gold is the better option
1) The rss ratio from one rss type to another in a box is the same as in a node in the overworld. But the ratio to heal a t5 unit requires more gold. 2) Normal attack is better than health. Trust me bro (consider it as all damage if that helps you conceptualize why) 3) Lilith patched hospital troop power to be included in the match making loooong ago. Only proof would be the ingame mail they sent. But its roughly 2y old so i use my "trust me bro" card yet again 4) As a tiny player from Water camp in that infamous 1093 kvk, and spending 20$ per kvk, my feeling now is: worth spending if not matched with CHADperium. If matched with an imperium, you will get out-spent and just wasting your money.
Q1: Is pick one chest a waste if selecting gold? A1: Gold in general is the hardest to obtain and most time consuming. While you receive less from the pick one chest, you also receive less from rss nodes. In my opinion, everyone uses the pick one chests on gold simply because of its "scarcity". If I'm at the point where I need to enter my bag for rss, typically I can ask my alliance for any spare rss and I'll get everything except gold. Q2: Because of diminishing returns, is normal damage better than health? A2: raw stats such as attack, defense and health are always present and always give you the benefit of having "more". An increase to normal damage is unique since you benefit from it more from being in combat longer. If you sacrifice health stats for an increase to normal damage you are making it more difficult for you to stay alive in prolonged combat and experience the benefits of your extra normal damage. One way to look at this is do you want to be more of a glass cannon or more of a tank? I think it's really a matter of "situation dictates". My take on this is Health still has priority, however normal damage stats in becoming more valuable and shouldn't be overlooked. Q3: Does filling hospitals make a meaningful difference in match making? A3: It used to. Recently Lilith changed matchmaking to include power of troops in the hospital. Q4: How much time, rss and speed ups do viewers use? A4: I'm at the end of my kvk 5 at the time of writing this. I've gained 1.1b kp, spent roughly 6b each rss and used roughly 3 years of speed ups and a lot of gems for teleporting. During big battles if I have the free time, I'll try to be fairly efficient in my fighting style. if I don't have much time, I play very aggressively and try to make the most impact I can with my time. With this in mind If I spend 2 hours fighting very aggressive, I might make the same amount of kp as 4 hours' worth of efficient fighting. The difference is how much rss and speeds I burn through to accomplish this. I know everyone has a different play style, but personally I love the "grind" of long battles. On a day off of work, it's not uncommon for me to invest 10+ hours into a great fight. Q5: Is crystal tech worth the investment? A5: To max your tech without being a dedicated rally/garrison leader OR having 7 sets of gear with good commanders, is a waste. Crystal tech is something you'll benefit from linearly. More time spent fighting = more value from tech. I think for most active players who do bastion quests, the tech pop-ups are plenty. If you buy pop-ups and 1 mountain warfare, it's fairly easy to complete 95% of your tech by then end of kvk.
1. A lvl 5 gold node contains 315K gold. A lvl 5 food node contains 945K food. So when mining the ratio of gold vs food is 1:3. In the packs the ratio actually is 1:2,5. Making it more beneficial to mine Wood/Food and open packs for gold. That said: You don’t always need to fight with T5 only. You can fight with with a mix of T4 and T5 (For example 65% T5, 35% T4), or use T4 only on your most targeted march. That way your demand for gold decreases and this can increase the total amount of fighting you can do (And kills u get). 2: About normal damage. On a pairing with a smite commander normal damage is better then health. On a pairing without smite damage, health is much more valuable stat and has more effect. 3: It depends if it’s worth to fill hospitals. If with filling hospitals you can drop your kingdom out of imperium and make room for let’s say 6 extra migrants that are real powerhouses… Yeah that’s worth it. If your kingdom is not super powerful and with filling hospitals you can drop your kingdom from borderline B seed, back to C seed. Yes that’s probably worth it. But at the same time. If you are High A seed. And you fill hospitals to be Low A seed.. You still count as A seed and it’s likely you don’t end up getting a easier matchmaking. The sleeping of accounts, filling hospitals, and other power management tools are very useful in the right context. But can also be a total waste. 4: I fight about 8 hours on all important war days. Most of the time 2 brackets of 4 hours with a large break inbetween. The days of war can highly vary. Two kvk ago we only had 4 days of fighting. The last kvk I played we had like 15. Last kvk I had 40M kills and used 300 days of speeds, 10b mix rss. 5: This is my opinion. Crystal tech is crucial for rally leads. But for average open fielders not worth spending more then 20 buck. Spend that extra money on getting more speedups and you will get more kills totals.
These are great questions. I think the answer to all of them is Lilith always wins. NCAA Football 25 comes out in a few days and I’m going to pretty much be done with getting bent over by Lilith 😂
1. Hospital filling is no longer a thing. LL patched it. 2. There are talents in peacekeeping tree that makes it superior for killing barbs. The ap saved and extra rss packs talents points are must get. All the way to the end of the tree is worth considering too. 3. for smite commanders, % normal attack is the same as % all damage so yes it’s the best stat
@@mulanrok1560 no, smite damage is only used in skills. all damage includes skills, normal attacks and counter attacks. think of it as smite = red numbers in combat, all damage = white & red numbers in combat
@@mulanrok1560 no, but for smite commanders like Liu Che, William Wallace, Gorgo, normal attack damage boost is pretty much all their damage boost. Because it boosts both the white and red damage numbers.
Higher kp usually depends on your equipment and commander too. As for crystal tech it makes your troops more stronger. If you have low crystal tech level then you will not be able to perform as good as someone that has max crystals.
I hate the rss system i own and farm on 10 plus accounts and it pisses me off ngl, lilith gets nothing from it since most people just buy rss cheap from sellers…
Why do I have 600+ extra brushes for the national roman museum event which ends in another 4 days.. I've completed the event in the first few days and now have these brushes in my backpack that I cant use....
my advice is as follows: spend $25-50 on rss from sellers and it will last you the entire the kvk, save the countless hours of farming for your friends and family or whatever. On a smite commander of course normal damage will be better than health, but health is much more in abundance than normal damage, very few things you can do to boost your normal damage.... Filling hospitals helps enormously, 300 players reducing their power by 3M = 900m power it can potentially make the difference in your seed bracket.. Kills gained VS rss / speeds spent is not as clear cut as people think, it heavily depends on the kvk you are in, who you are fighting, who you are allied with. Basically, the more you outnumber your enemy in the field, the less likely you are to get focused, and better trades you will get... activity is also key (duh)
Im in your KvK right now, Wind camp 3083 and in our Z4 i fought around 20h in 24h Used about 1.2b Food, 700m Wood, 900m Stone and 900m Gold for 214m KP with around 110 Days of speeds
1. That's why I have 1 dedicated farm account just for gold. 2. Every UA-cam content creator always said focused on defense and health. My experience in kvk. You are in a ball. You hope they don't target you and throw as much damage as possible. If you focused on defense and health. When they target you. You may survive 2 or turn. Those turns doesn't help much. 3. You are trying to stay away from whale kingdom. If you are match with a whale kingdom. You hospital would be worse. 4. I going to agree with you here. I think rok think that everyone doesn't have a life. They may be some people that doesn't have a job or family and have financial mean sitting on the game all day. They got to be real. The rest of us have jobs, school and family. Expected us to leave everything behind for them. This game might not be here in the next couple of years but my family and job will be. 5. It's all about your budget. I'm f2p to kill time. I'm not going to give rok my kids milk money. So i have to hustle. Those action points add up. Most of my gems are from barbarian. If you don't have those gems for wheel of fortune or legendary gears. You just getting slapped around. 6. I only do crystal technology for kvk points to buy gears. There's no point of spending money on it if don't have the money to pump up your account to be rally leader.
I average 25-30mil kills per kvk and it's too much time. Unless your job places you at a desk or home with electronics it's impossible to worry about stats. This game doesn't care if you work outside and 70hrs a week. The no sleep work days because the fight is at 3am or midnight? So I guess p2w.
Re crystal tech, if you don’t spend you will need more time and rss to hit kvk targets. I have tried it without spending (as I don’t like spending on temporary buffs that disappear at end of kvk) and I found it such a grind to get anywhere near 30 million kills, I think I only got it 1 out of 3 non spending kvk - and you better hope your enemy is committed to the fight. Rss in general is a big bottleneck in end game kvks, unless you are a whale and buy them through packs, or rss sellers(they seem pretty much everywhere these days) or sacrifice your time and sanity and have multiple farms like I do. I wish Lilith would increase amount in rss nodes and speed up gathering, but we know that’s never going to happen. 🤷♂️
For 1B kp it’s cost 400 days speed ups and 20B rss in average , About normal damage if you asking me between 3.5 health or 3.5 normal damage I’ll choose damage but not 1.5 damage , For filling hospital is it help yeah and there’s prove you could chick recent match making for 1875 after they filled their hospital rok but them in camp with another KD !!! , For time issues actually it’s the biggest horrible problem cuz ROK forces you to gathering rss and speed ups for hundreds of hours that’s alone is crazy but not enough for them and you need to cancel all your commitments an scheduling in week they determine when to play for 24/7 or your KD will smash your azz !!
I really sincerely hate you for barbing without peacekeepers😭😂
Hehehe, when I livestream barb hunting, i’ll let the audience educate me
Same
i’ve been play rok for like 1.5 years and barb with non peacekeeper commanders because they die faster
As efficient as peacekeeping commanders are, the Barbs in LK are just too strong. Non peacekeeping commanders like Nevsky, Joan P, Scipio P, and ZL MUST be factored into the equation because of not only their dmg output but the buffs/debuffs they provide that peacekeeping commanders simply don't have. And when it comes down to it-the man is entitled to spend his own action-points how he sees fit.
@@damienlee54exactly, but yet again, I've seen strong accounts like arvix barbing and he was using his field marches, it shredded a lvl 55 barbarian like nothing. I guess more people need to learn more about the game
Gold isn‘t inefficient in packs because the nodes also contain 1/3 of the amount and as far as I know it’s also 1/3 the gathering speed. We just get scammed with gold cost
exactly so i you do decide to mine gold, then you need to mine 3x more than what you would with normal rss and on top of that also gather way slow, slower so you get about 1/6 the value while on packs its 1/3 value, so spending packs on gold is the better option
1)
The rss ratio from one rss type to another in a box is the same as in a node in the overworld. But the ratio to heal a t5 unit requires more gold.
2)
Normal attack is better than health. Trust me bro (consider it as all damage if that helps you conceptualize why)
3)
Lilith patched hospital troop power to be included in the match making loooong ago. Only proof would be the ingame mail they sent. But its roughly 2y old so i use my "trust me bro" card yet again
4)
As a tiny player from Water camp in that infamous 1093 kvk, and spending 20$ per kvk, my feeling now is: worth spending if not matched with CHADperium. If matched with an imperium, you will get out-spent and just wasting your money.
Q1: Is pick one chest a waste if selecting gold?
A1: Gold in general is the hardest to obtain and most time consuming. While you receive less from the pick one chest, you also receive less from rss nodes. In my opinion, everyone uses the pick one chests on gold simply because of its "scarcity". If I'm at the point where I need to enter my bag for rss, typically I can ask my alliance for any spare rss and I'll get everything except gold.
Q2: Because of diminishing returns, is normal damage better than health?
A2: raw stats such as attack, defense and health are always present and always give you the benefit of having "more". An increase to normal damage is unique since you benefit from it more from being in combat longer. If you sacrifice health stats for an increase to normal damage you are making it more difficult for you to stay alive in prolonged combat and experience the benefits of your extra normal damage. One way to look at this is do you want to be more of a glass cannon or more of a tank? I think it's really a matter of "situation dictates". My take on this is Health still has priority, however normal damage stats in becoming more valuable and shouldn't be overlooked.
Q3: Does filling hospitals make a meaningful difference in match making?
A3: It used to. Recently Lilith changed matchmaking to include power of troops in the hospital.
Q4: How much time, rss and speed ups do viewers use?
A4: I'm at the end of my kvk 5 at the time of writing this. I've gained 1.1b kp, spent roughly 6b each rss and used roughly 3 years of speed ups and a lot of gems for teleporting. During big battles if I have the free time, I'll try to be fairly efficient in my fighting style. if I don't have much time, I play very aggressively and try to make the most impact I can with my time. With this in mind If I spend 2 hours fighting very aggressive, I might make the same amount of kp as 4 hours' worth of efficient fighting. The difference is how much rss and speeds I burn through to accomplish this. I know everyone has a different play style, but personally I love the "grind" of long battles. On a day off of work, it's not uncommon for me to invest 10+ hours into a great fight.
Q5: Is crystal tech worth the investment?
A5: To max your tech without being a dedicated rally/garrison leader OR having 7 sets of gear with good commanders, is a waste. Crystal tech is something you'll benefit from linearly. More time spent fighting = more value from tech. I think for most active players who do bastion quests, the tech pop-ups are plenty. If you buy pop-ups and 1 mountain warfare, it's fairly easy to complete 95% of your tech by then end of kvk.
W answers, all of them
Thank you
1. A lvl 5 gold node contains 315K gold. A lvl 5 food node contains 945K food. So when mining the ratio of gold vs food is 1:3. In the packs the ratio actually is 1:2,5. Making it more beneficial to mine Wood/Food and open packs for gold. That said: You don’t always need to fight with T5 only. You can fight with with a mix of T4 and T5 (For example 65% T5, 35% T4), or use T4 only on your most targeted march. That way your demand for gold decreases and this can increase the total amount of fighting you can do (And kills u get).
2: About normal damage. On a pairing with a smite commander normal damage is better then health. On a pairing without smite damage, health is much more valuable stat and has more effect.
3: It depends if it’s worth to fill hospitals. If with filling hospitals you can drop your kingdom out of imperium and make room for let’s say 6 extra migrants that are real powerhouses… Yeah that’s worth it. If your kingdom is not super powerful and with filling hospitals you can drop your kingdom from borderline B seed, back to C seed. Yes that’s probably worth it.
But at the same time. If you are High A seed. And you fill hospitals to be Low A seed.. You still count as A seed and it’s likely you don’t end up getting a easier matchmaking. The sleeping of accounts, filling hospitals, and other power management tools are very useful in the right context. But can also be a total waste.
4: I fight about 8 hours on all important war days. Most of the time 2 brackets of 4 hours with a large break inbetween. The days of war can highly vary. Two kvk ago we only had 4 days of fighting. The last kvk I played we had like 15. Last kvk I had 40M kills and used 300 days of speeds, 10b mix rss.
5: This is my opinion. Crystal tech is crucial for rally leads. But for average open fielders not worth spending more then 20 buck. Spend that extra money on getting more speedups and you will get more kills totals.
These are great questions. I think the answer to all of them is Lilith always wins. NCAA Football 25 comes out in a few days and I’m going to pretty much be done with getting bent over by Lilith 😂
1. Hospital filling is no longer a thing. LL patched it.
2. There are talents in peacekeeping tree that makes it superior for killing barbs. The ap saved and extra rss packs talents points are must get. All the way to the end of the tree is worth considering too.
3. for smite commanders, % normal attack is the same as % all damage so yes it’s the best stat
Is Smite damage and all damage same?
@@mulanrok1560 no, smite damage is only used in skills. all damage includes skills, normal attacks and counter attacks.
think of it as smite = red numbers in combat, all damage = white & red numbers in combat
@@mulanrok1560 no, but for smite commanders like Liu Che, William Wallace, Gorgo, normal attack damage boost is pretty much all their damage boost. Because it boosts both the white and red damage numbers.
Normal damage and all damage is not the same
For Crystal tech i suggest just going for Pop ups thats way more then enough if you arent garni / rally lead. Rather buy rss
To be honest I like buying resources from hard working people not single resources from lilith bundles
Higher kp usually depends on your equipment and commander too. As for crystal tech it makes your troops more stronger. If you have low crystal tech level then you will not be able to perform as good as someone that has max crystals.
I hate the rss system i own and farm on 10 plus accounts and it pisses me off ngl, lilith gets nothing from it since most people just buy rss cheap from sellers…
Why do I have 600+ extra brushes for the national roman museum event which ends in another 4 days.. I've completed the event in the first few days and now have these brushes in my backpack that I cant use....
my advice is as follows: spend $25-50 on rss from sellers and it will last you the entire the kvk, save the countless hours of farming for your friends and family or whatever.
On a smite commander of course normal damage will be better than health, but health is much more in abundance than normal damage, very few things you can do to boost your normal damage....
Filling hospitals helps enormously, 300 players reducing their power by 3M = 900m power it can potentially make the difference in your seed bracket..
Kills gained VS rss / speeds spent is not as clear cut as people think, it heavily depends on the kvk you are in, who you are fighting, who you are allied with. Basically, the more you outnumber your enemy in the field, the less likely you are to get focused, and better trades you will get... activity is also key (duh)
Great questions! I'll folloe you to see the results. Hopefully you could make another video about the answers. ❤
Im in your KvK right now,
Wind camp 3083
and in our Z4 i fought around 20h in 24h
Used about
1.2b Food, 700m Wood, 900m Stone and 900m Gold
for 214m KP with around
110 Days of speeds
Thank you for this comment 🙏 the others too
@@WarKoopa yw (all that was with just crystal mine boost, no pop ups whatsoever)
@@lucky_mislibtw5056 bro you got to precise the number of march you are using
@@oscramos8298 2 Cav 1 Inf 1 Arch
Huo Joan
Nev Wili
Guan Scip
ZL Ysg
(All maxed beside 5-5-5-1 ZL)
No dont spend for kristal tech only the 50% bundle is worht it
1. That's why I have 1 dedicated farm account just for gold.
2. Every UA-cam content creator always said focused on defense and health. My experience in kvk. You are in a ball. You hope they don't target you and throw as much damage as possible. If you focused on defense and health. When they target you. You may survive 2 or turn. Those turns doesn't help much.
3. You are trying to stay away from whale kingdom. If you are match with a whale kingdom. You hospital would be worse.
4. I going to agree with you here. I think rok think that everyone doesn't have a life. They may be some people that doesn't have a job or family and have financial mean sitting on the game all day. They got to be real. The rest of us have jobs, school and family. Expected us to leave everything behind for them. This game might not be here in the next couple of years but my family and job will be.
5. It's all about your budget. I'm f2p to kill time. I'm not going to give rok my kids milk money. So i have to hustle. Those action points add up. Most of my gems are from barbarian. If you don't have those gems for wheel of fortune or legendary gears. You just getting slapped around.
6. I only do crystal technology for kvk points to buy gears. There's no point of spending money on it if don't have the money to pump up your account to be rally leader.
I average 25-30mil kills per kvk and it's too much time. Unless your job places you at a desk or home with electronics it's impossible to worry about stats. This game doesn't care if you work outside and 70hrs a week. The no sleep work days because the fight is at 3am or midnight? So I guess p2w.
Lilith FBI: OPEN UP xD
The Hospital filling doesn’t work or is only a theory as far as i know, i asked VIP support now tho
It's was a thing, mabe 4 year's ago but now it's not they fixed the mach making
@@eliasalalamalalam3502 yep my vip support confirmed
the last 3 kvks ive spent about 1b of each rss, and got about 200-300m kp, about $40 spent on crystal
Just join D seed kingdom and all your questions will be gone
Re crystal tech, if you don’t spend you will need more time and rss to hit kvk targets. I have tried it without spending (as I don’t like spending on temporary buffs that disappear at end of kvk) and I found it such a grind to get anywhere near 30 million kills, I think I only got it 1 out of 3 non spending kvk - and you better hope your enemy is committed to the fight. Rss in general is a big bottleneck in end game kvks, unless you are a whale and buy them through packs, or rss sellers(they seem pretty much everywhere these days) or sacrifice your time and sanity and have multiple farms like I do. I wish Lilith would increase amount in rss nodes and speed up gathering, but we know that’s never going to happen. 🤷♂️
You need to be buying all the bundles. Max tech day 1 only way to go 😂😂
For 1B kp it’s cost 400 days speed ups and 20B rss in average ,
About normal damage if you asking me between 3.5 health or 3.5 normal damage I’ll choose damage but not 1.5 damage ,
For filling hospital is it help yeah and there’s prove you could chick recent match making for 1875 after they filled their hospital rok but them in camp with another KD !!! ,
For time issues actually it’s the biggest horrible problem cuz ROK forces you to gathering rss and speed ups for hundreds of hours that’s alone is crazy but not enough for them and you need to cancel all your commitments an scheduling in week they determine when to play for 24/7 or your KD will smash your azz !!
😦
Thank you
@@WarKoopau r wlc
@@AzzamAbuJbara1B kp doesn’t cost 20B rss, I did 2.66B kp my last kvk with 12B rss. Are u saying trading 1:1 or?
Even for high spenders your numbers not logical cuz mad akiles who is big whale last kvk he spent 25B rss for 2B kp as example 😂😂😂😂
@@AzzamAbuJbara u want me to show u my name in game?
you will never be good, just try what you can
Noooo I will be good 😭
İ fight as much as i can(￣ヘ￣;)
Why ROK?
Hey l just watched the video of you showing how to get free speed ups and l tried it but i don't know how to make my hospital full 😢😢 please help
I would duel MGE for points to help someone else or to get a placement myself, or fight in kvk to fill that hospital
Thank you g