I am flabbergasted that I have seen Segways driving around for years with tourists on them, and not for one second I have ever thought this technology could be of such importance of parallized people. I hope they succeed.
Theyve been around for quite a few years to be honest, Segways have also been used for all sorts, Go-Karts, Trikes, Even ride on shopping trollies in some parts of europe for the elderly and people with health problems, Anything that already has wheels can pretty much have a segway incorporated onto it with the correct ingenuity.
Just shows when one Dragon shows some compassion. What a turn around and all other dragons follow. Ratching down the usual greed model and actually instilling some humanity and COMPASSION in business. God knows the world needs more leaders like this... Kudos to Stephen
I think everyone who sees this video is glad you two fellows succeeded with this Life Changing & Life Enhancing Product. Personally I felt joy when the first investor said YES I will invest in your product. The brilliance and creativity of the mind at work.
Haha, thanks for he laugh. Actually I'm usually not very sentimental, but I being paralyzed can't be a lot of fun, especially at such a young age.@@coldestbeer
Brilliantly executed and well done you guys you deserve to make this happen. Well done to the Dragons for your input and support 👍. I’d definitely be on board to sell these brilliant mobility/ways to improve the quality of lives to them that haven’t been able to achieve their goals.
@@gv7217 I would suggest they will be lobbying relevant government bodies to subsidise, I also think their cost can reduce dramatically. It's basically the same tech that's been in a segway for years😊
@@spicekid2582 how is it they each get 5% of the whole business, they already sell two a month via word of mouth and their like 15-17k. So without improvement (which the dragons would obviously cause due to their investment) that’s 300k plus a year, I think they said they make about 5k per each unit in profit, so sticking to the just 2 their currently selling a month, that’s 120k profit a year. 5% is 6k each.that’s half their investment back in one year without improving the business. Obviously with the dragons getting them a warehouse etc their sales would be a lot more. So yes it is worth it
According to Omeo's website these guys are sales agents in London only. Omeo appears to have done everything that Peter J was suggesting they do. Kiwi's werent going to give this goldmine away.
@@jwsuicides8095 depends on what country you're in. I'm VERY fortunate to have been born in Australia, so very few limits on me. Basically if an OT says it will improve my quality of life, the government will pay for it for me. Very, very privileged to live here!
@@jujutrini8412 no, it won't go down, this is already super cheap for mobility equipment! Go look at the prices for e-motion wheels or "smart drive" (which are both just basic add ons to a manual wheelchair to give some power assist) even just a basic manual wheelchair, go look at the price if you think this is expensive!
@@MultiJejjethey actually are selling them around the world. And here in New Zealand they are funded by the government for eligible users. But can you imagine being able to play basketball and have your hands free? And so many other great things.
WOW. I live in New Zealand and hadn't heard about this. I'd have been interested enough to get involved financially. However, the points raised by Peter(?) at the beginning are valid. These two guys are essentially just ordering "parts/functions" from two sources and jigsawing them together. I'd want to buy the patant or whatever from the "Inventor". The self balancing tech from China is available from a number of different sources. EG Look at all those EV Scooters, Skateboards and Bikes and others who also have similar tech. That total cost of 7,000 and 5,000 is just too much. Should be half, at least. I mean, what's to stop me going direct to the Inventor and buying their product? Then cutting off the English operation once the Contract is up and launching my own? NOTE WELL: I love the end product. My partner would have enjoyed it before, sadly, she passed away from MS complications. If only I had known about it!
They are based down in Otaki, on the Kapiti Coast. I remember they got a decent start up loan From Shane Jones's PGF, a few years ago. On a side note I have a feeling the big cost of the chairs is due to them paying licensing fees to 'Segway'
This is basically bringing the Segway tech to those who really need it most, and wouldn’t just do it for the views on Tik Tok. I hope this becomes a staple worldwide.
This is the right outcome. Too risky a venture to invest all the money in, but worth splitting the cost. With the right mentoring, they can turn this into a good social business
If I had the money I would definitely invest in this business. I am disabled and use a mobility scooter to go out and about with. I can still walk a little but not far any more and there are so many places that I cannot go now even with a scooter. These chairs are life changers despite their cost. I truly hope these men get their business up and thriving.
It’s probably the Dragon’s input that will be of more value than the money. They really seemed to want this to succeed - for future users. Let’s hope so 👍
I have such admiration for someone who can face adversity and rise, to not only enjoying life, but making it possible for other people to achieve the same freedom. Well done lads, so very excited for you both and wish you all the very best for the future.
People who are disabled and have mobility issue can get PIP(Personal Independence Payment) which majority use to get a mobility car. So the £17k will not be an issue.
@@jwsuicides8095 The Mobility Scheme allows people to lease a brand new car, scooter or a wheelchair (insurance, maintenance and repairs included) with their their PIP.
Being a cripple and having difficulty walking and standing, this is undoubtedly an option for me and others. I will search for one online. Thank you, gentlemen, for sharing.
Peter is incorrect about the usage of the word "OEM" because using his example, Samsung doesn't build all of their products. Individual components inside a PC, for example, are made by others. An OEM warranties their end product and has their name on it.
You missed the point. It's not the investment amount. You have 3 very experienced business men that are going to give up their time and connections to help these people. My feeling is that they are going to need a lot of their time. Which is a lot more valuable.
Toukers worth about 200 million, Bartletts worth about 70 million and Sara who is worth a little less is worth about 36 million. They are investing £13,333.33p which is probably the of me investing £30, they are not going to notice it's gone out of their bank account.
It's the time commitment, not really the money. Plus the reason they got there in the first place was by being ruthless with their money and influence.
@@wildnfree101 What you're worth and how much money you have are different, you're probably worth millions but they are tied up in your house, cars, etc. For them it's their companies, and they can't just sell of portions of it to invest. Peter is a billionaire and has ~10 M in cash, you can imagine how little Sarah has floating around.
These should be able to be produced and sold for only around 2 times the cost of Segway self-balancing scooters! The world always takes advantage of those most in need...
This might be a silly question but they said the chair moves forward by you leaning forward right? How does the guy on the right use it if he's paralysed from the chest down? I wouldn't have thought he could lean
yeh, that's what I'm really curious about, what level of disability can actually use this? That's probably the biggest limiting factor in it, higher end cost chairs are generally for quads rather than low level paras & I think this might be suitable only for low level paras for fulltime use. Chest guy probably can't use it fulltime, probably the reason he needs to keep stopping to take a breath is because his chair isn't giving him the support he needs for everyday living. That said, it could still be really good fitness & be recomended by OT's etc becasue of that, I don't know. If he uses his neck & upper muscles, he can probably get the lower part of his body to follow, at least on flat ground, could become really dangerous on rough terrain though, I don't know, it's what I"m most curious about with this product actually
The issue with these that no one clocks on to is that they are SO unstable when it comes to kerbs etc. You really do need something with 4 wheels, 3 at least. I wish them the best of luck but these balancing wheelchairs are just impractical for the most part.
@@mehere8038 Maybe I should refrase to "The first time I've seen something on this show that instantly amazed me". I have no idea what's important in mobility devices.
It is a good business if and only if an efficient servicing of the product is offered. It is NOT only selling them but also keeping them running well for clientele. How would it feel to have one in a corner of the room gathering dust without a competent network of servicing. Zero discussion of maintenance was a HUGE oversight. Who would buy a car if there were no mechanics to service them.
need to compare to a motorised wheelchair rather than mobility scooter. Mobility scooters have a bigger market & so are much cheaper compared to actual wheelchairs (which this is competing with)
How on earth can you call it a rich kids toy .I use a wheelchair,I am no longer able to be much of a part of the world .My life is extremely curtailed.
My sister-in-law has one of these chairs and it has been such a life changer for her. Great Kiwi ingenuity!
What is it called ?
@@Ls_Chainless Watch the video and you'll see...
@@Ls_Chainlessthe company is called "Adaptability." It's an "Omeo" wheelchair
Where can l purchase one, please
@@sifahelemaitogalagahetau2147 put "Omeo chair" in your search engine
I am flabbergasted that I have seen Segways driving around for years with tourists on them, and not for one second I have ever thought this technology could be of such importance of parallized people.
I hope they succeed.
Theyve been around for quite a few years to be honest, Segways have also been used for all sorts, Go-Karts, Trikes, Even ride on shopping trollies in some parts of europe for the elderly and people with health problems, Anything that already has wheels can pretty much have a segway incorporated onto it with the correct ingenuity.
Imagine having legs and not use them. Every wheelchair user I talked to said they would sell their grandmother to get functionable legs again
When given the choice of the 1k mobility scooter vs this which is 17k... they usually go with the cheaper LOL...
See why you havent seen much around ?
Clearly the sharks do not now what the expensive being disable is
@@keithvlogs1 You understood 0% about the product.
Just shows when one Dragon shows some compassion. What a turn around and all other dragons follow. Ratching down the usual greed model and actually instilling some humanity and COMPASSION in business. God knows the world needs more leaders like this... Kudos to Stephen
I couldn't agree more. Compassion and Empathy strives the willingness to succeed. Beautiful. I am sure they are doing well.
But can they breath fire? 🤣🤣
I think everyone who sees this video is glad you two fellows succeeded with this Life Changing & Life Enhancing Product. Personally I felt joy when the first investor said YES I will invest in your product. The brilliance and creativity of the mind at work.
I have something in common with Touker, my background is also opening doors, I've done it many times
Yes, but can you offer empty floors of office space?, and "Touker time" 🙂
I also do not get out of bed for 1%
Right after getting out of bed
Their courage brought tears to my eyes.
ok cry now
hahaha@@boomschool
😭😭😭
You're the type to cry at a Taylor swift concert
Haha, thanks for he laugh. Actually I'm usually not very sentimental, but I being paralyzed can't be a lot of fun, especially at such a young age.@@coldestbeer
Brilliantly executed and well done you guys you deserve to make this happen. Well done to the Dragons for your input and support 👍. I’d definitely be on board to sell these brilliant mobility/ways to improve the quality of lives to them that haven’t been able to achieve their goals.
Such a heartfelt episode. Happy they secured an investment
I was just disappointed they didn't both do a wheelie when they got the dragons' investments.
That was a win-win, credit to Stephen for rolling it. They each get 5% for just over 13K each
Your halfway to become a human spider 🕷️🕸️
@@gv7217 I would suggest they will be lobbying relevant government bodies to subsidise, I also think their cost can reduce dramatically. It's basically the same tech that's been in a segway for years😊
@@gv7217more than you think. If you add up esa and pip the benefits I’ve been refused, you could easily afford it.
Do the maths my friend this deal is rubbish for the dragons
@@spicekid2582 how is it they each get 5% of the whole business, they already sell two a month via word of mouth and their like 15-17k. So without improvement (which the dragons would obviously cause due to their investment) that’s 300k plus a year, I think they said they make about 5k per each unit in profit, so sticking to the just 2 their currently selling a month, that’s 120k profit a year. 5% is 6k each.that’s half their investment back in one year without improving the business.
Obviously with the dragons getting them a warehouse etc their sales would be a lot more. So yes it is worth it
Can't fake that kind of sincerity and good will. Well done!
Yeah you can
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Wheely inspiring stuff.
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It's not always about the money but the impact you have on someone's life. Thanks Steve.
Please someone make a charity to help more of us get these!!
Look at the NDIS in Australia & pressure your government to adopt it there, so you can all get them
Hahaha good luck wi that 😂😂😂😂
Unfortunately Western countries' Govts are busy with defining or undefining genders and sexuality.
According to Omeo's website these guys are sales agents in London only. Omeo appears to have done everything that Peter J was suggesting they do. Kiwi's werent going to give this goldmine away.
Well done chaps and congratulations and for getting 3 dragons on board omg you've done fantastic 👏
Those wheels will get so many doing off road activities and explore the great outdoors. Well done and good luck with the business.
at the price they are many many wont be able to obtain one
@@melin1969 It's EXTREMELY CHEAP for a proper wheelchair, let alone one like this
@@mehere8038 And we can't afford those either.
@@jwsuicides8095 depends on what country you're in. I'm VERY fortunate to have been born in Australia, so very few limits on me. Basically if an OT says it will improve my quality of life, the government will pay for it for me. Very, very privileged to live here!
Making Segway tech useful, not just for security guards to ponce around on. Graet and good luck.
I'd even invest 13 grand of my own money for 5% of that business I've got a feeling this will take over
Never with that price point. Or it depends what you mean by "will take over":
@@MultiJejjeNew innovations are always very pricey at the beginning and then the prices usually go down after a while.
@@jujutrini8412this is an electric wheelchair......they have been around for years 😂
@@jujutrini8412 no, it won't go down, this is already super cheap for mobility equipment! Go look at the prices for e-motion wheels or "smart drive" (which are both just basic add ons to a manual wheelchair to give some power assist) even just a basic manual wheelchair, go look at the price if you think this is expensive!
@@MultiJejjethey actually are selling them around the world. And here in New Zealand they are funded by the government for eligible users. But can you imagine being able to play basketball and have your hands free? And so many other great things.
Wow! Amazing Dragons. Delighted for both Matthew and Christian.
Great stuff. This will change lives. Well done. Good luck.
Steven Bartlet is such a nice guy.
Two very inspirational lads. Wish them the very best 👏
I'm very pleased for them, I hope they do well.
WOW. I live in New Zealand and hadn't heard about this. I'd have been interested enough to get involved financially. However, the points raised by Peter(?) at the beginning are valid. These two guys are essentially just ordering "parts/functions" from two sources and jigsawing them together. I'd want to buy the patant or whatever from the "Inventor". The self balancing tech from China is available from a number of different sources. EG Look at all those EV Scooters, Skateboards and Bikes and others who also have similar tech. That total cost of 7,000 and 5,000 is just too much. Should be half, at least.
I mean, what's to stop me going direct to the Inventor and buying their product? Then cutting off the English operation once the Contract is up and launching my own?
NOTE WELL: I love the end product. My partner would have enjoyed it before, sadly, she passed away from MS complications. If only I had known about it!
They are based down in Otaki, on the Kapiti Coast. I remember they got a decent start up loan From Shane Jones's PGF, a few years ago. On a side note I have a feeling the big cost of the chairs is due to them paying licensing fees to 'Segway'
Yeah, licensing and patents seem a bit flakey. That needs to be sorted first. Hopefully the dragons are sorting them out
I wish the lads well , anything with a disabled logo puts a massive premium on everything.
This is basically bringing the Segway tech to those who really need it most, and wouldn’t just do it for the views on Tik Tok. I hope this becomes a staple worldwide.
This is the right outcome. Too risky a venture to invest all the money in, but worth splitting the cost. With the right mentoring, they can turn this into a good social business
If I had the money I would definitely invest in this business. I am disabled and use a mobility scooter to go out and about with. I can still walk a little but not far any more and there are so many places that I cannot go now even with a scooter. These chairs are life changers despite their cost. I truly hope these men get their business up and thriving.
Can’t wait to see how this grows for them! Wishing the best
Yes and will be brilliant if they could bring the price down for people unable to work.
I think it’s a great idea but I’m disabled I get roughly £1000 a month how any one can afford £17000 for a wheelchair is beyond me
People on less than you a month seem to manage the purchase of a new electric car though? Maybe it's priorities.
@@jillosler9353 no it’s called Motability because I have one an they start off free so get ya facts right
That's a motorbility deal!
@@jillosler9353 What people? You're talking out your rear.
Yes, but that’s using the mobility scheme. I guess that doesn’t cover these chairs.
It’s probably the Dragon’s input that will be of more value than the money. They really seemed to want this to succeed - for future users. Let’s hope so 👍
This business will hit big millions in couple of years ahead
Awesome I truly hope they exceed 👍
Next they need to get them approved under insurance plans.. so user not paying out of pocket for full cost, insurance plans are
Very good point. Pretty sure the sharks will figure that out.
absolutely!
I have such admiration for someone who can face adversity and rise, to not only enjoying life, but making it possible for other people to achieve the same freedom. Well done lads, so very excited for you both and wish you all the very best for the future.
Steven is a great dragon I am glad he is part of the team!!
I pray this come at a price that will make them available to the majority of wheelchair bound people...Most of whom have not got a lot of money!
this is why governments need to step up, cause this is already cheap for a good wheelchair
They should rent them out and also put them on finance so people have some chance to use maybe own them one day.
@@sakhter4044 Some are available on finance and rental...but very few.
"i will tell you where I am"
Meaningless statement in the house...
Rather like your meaningless comment...
A huge proportion of disabled people struggle financially. How on earth are we expected to find £17k?
They only need a small % of the market.
People who are disabled and have mobility issue can get PIP(Personal Independence Payment) which majority use to get a mobility car. So the £17k will not be an issue.
Will they give the car up?
@@Chopper8472 If you think that people on PIP won't find £17k an issue you need to give your head a wobble.
@@jwsuicides8095 The Mobility Scheme allows people to lease a brand new car, scooter or a wheelchair (insurance, maintenance and repairs included) with their their PIP.
Got excited seeing this. A spinal cord injury limits my mobility and this offers hope of more options for freedom of movement
This is why Steven where he is today ❤️
I So wishing could afford one it would change my life, I currently use a powered wheelchair, but love this amazing, Awesome model
I am glad the Dragons didn't ask them to go have a discussion near the wall.
Being a cripple and having difficulty walking and standing, this is undoubtedly an option for me and others. I will search for one online. Thank you, gentlemen, for sharing.
Peter is incorrect about the usage of the word "OEM" because using his example, Samsung doesn't build all of their products. Individual components inside a PC, for example, are made by others. An OEM warranties their end product and has their name on it.
Samsung produces everything. From the chips, to the screens. The OEM is the initial manufacturer.
WRONG
I wish I could afford one,it looks amazing, these guys are amazing
Yes price point is the only downside to this brilliant invention. Those that can't afford it (and many can't) will loose out
nice one dragons i respect that offer. you just gave two people a new purpose in life
The 2 of them compliment eacher.
Am sooo glad they made them an offer. Well done
Wow that was such an amazing 😻
I got emotional watching that
I saw a chair like this recently. The owner had changed the back of it to be a replica VW Beetle. It was fantastic!
Awesome. I hope I see these everywhere very soon.
Gotta love seeing 3 dragons in it makes me smile the more dragons I see invest together
Congrats Guys, You Deserved That Win!
A funny fact: the dragons each gave them less than a single chair is worth haha
they gave them less than a chair costs - totally different
@@Sir_Henry_Bossocks You tell 'em Sir Henry, jolly good show old chap, what what?
Who was expecting them to jump out of their wheechairs at the end once the deal was done?
LMAOOO😂😂😂😂😂😂
that would've been the plot twist of the century
@@crossxfuse”just kidding!” 😂
That business is going to explode with thosec3 Dragons on board!
what they need is a deal with one of the big para-sports governing bodies. if they could get the costs down on a bulk order it could probably happen
costs aren't coming down, this is already cheap for mobility equipmnt!
The irony of Matthew called Walker and not walking was not lost on me
Matthew... 'Walker' 💀...
Touker looks like 1 of those beach chairs
Love seeing people happy!
Didn't know the Dragons Den could make me emotional
Wow, this episode really touched me. I hope they succeed!
Amazing piece of kit for disabled individuals and life changing. Promoting independence for many adults and perhaps children.
It's the affordability that's the problem. Very few can access them right now.
It brought me to tears this episode
40k is pocket change to some of them, i would have just given them what they wanted at their rate, some things are more important than profit imo.
You missed the point. It's not the investment amount. You have 3 very experienced business men that are going to give up their time and connections to help these people. My feeling is that they are going to need a lot of their time. Which is a lot more valuable.
Toukers worth about 200 million, Bartletts worth about 70 million and Sara who is worth a little less is worth about 36 million. They are investing £13,333.33p which is probably the of me investing £30, they are not going to notice it's gone out of their bank account.
@@wildnfree101Desperate to get your comment read much??
Copying and pasting THE SAME REPLY you made literally 2 minutes ago !!!!
Sad and pathetic
It's the time commitment, not really the money. Plus the reason they got there in the first place was by being ruthless with their money and influence.
@@wildnfree101 What you're worth and how much money you have are different, you're probably worth millions but they are tied up in your house, cars, etc. For them it's their companies, and they can't just sell of portions of it to invest. Peter is a billionaire and has ~10 M in cash, you can imagine how little Sarah has floating around.
These should be able to be produced and sold for only around 2 times the cost of Segway self-balancing scooters!
The world always takes advantage of those most in need...
They must pay enormous import tax /shipping fees to get that stuff from New Zealand to here.
A segway is a toy. This is a medical device. The standards are going to be massively different.
@@MikeRees exactly!
@@MikeRees A segway will have 20% VAT on it, this won't for anyone who is disabled.
Amazing result… they have everything anyone could dream
This might be a silly question but they said the chair moves forward by you leaning forward right? How does the guy on the right use it if he's paralysed from the chest down? I wouldn't have thought he could lean
yeh, that's what I'm really curious about, what level of disability can actually use this? That's probably the biggest limiting factor in it, higher end cost chairs are generally for quads rather than low level paras & I think this might be suitable only for low level paras for fulltime use. Chest guy probably can't use it fulltime, probably the reason he needs to keep stopping to take a breath is because his chair isn't giving him the support he needs for everyday living. That said, it could still be really good fitness & be recomended by OT's etc becasue of that, I don't know. If he uses his neck & upper muscles, he can probably get the lower part of his body to follow, at least on flat ground, could become really dangerous on rough terrain though, I don't know, it's what I"m most curious about with this product actually
Good point. I could probably use it for a short spell but then take months recovering!
This is wonderful perfect result great team . Good luck for all your future ventures.x
The issue with these that no one clocks on to is that they are SO unstable when it comes to kerbs etc. You really do need something with 4 wheels, 3 at least. I wish them the best of luck but these balancing wheelchairs are just impractical for the most part.
New videos are always exciting to see!
Peter at nesrly $1.5 billion and still looking to invest. Go relax😂. Love the motivation of these two guys pushing forward with life.
He's actually helping people by investing.🙄
I see that they are now selling these in the US and Canada. Business must have been good
will you give me info on how to contact Canadian company
you could use the technology from a hover board, a seat from a mobility scooter and stabilizers to stop falling o far forward and backwards
It’s not real until Peter says “well done”
Wow, this is a great device. I am pretty sure this is the first time I see an actually useful thing on this show.
I've seen FAR more useful devices, but I use a wheelchair, so I actually understand the limits of this one!
@@mehere8038 Maybe I should refrase to "The first time I've seen something on this show that instantly amazed me". I have no idea what's important in mobility devices.
I felt their enthusiasm good luck to them.🤩
Imagine if at the end they stood up and walked over to shake the dragons hands 😵
It is a good business if and only if an efficient servicing of the product is offered. It is NOT only selling them but also keeping them running well for clientele. How would it feel to have one in a corner of the room gathering dust without a competent network of servicing. Zero discussion of maintenance was a HUGE oversight. Who would buy a car if there were no mechanics to service them.
That was lovely to watch. Peter was also right, but it was still a good investment. I believe that this can only become better.
A magic product. They cannot fail.
AMAZING… nice one Dragons👍
Stephen was brilliant in getting the investment going. Great Dragon and a nice man
This is amazing and a game changer. I think this would do well in the US and all over the world.
Decent mobility scooters are selling for 5-7k already so a hands free version obviously has a lot of potential.
need to compare to a motorised wheelchair rather than mobility scooter. Mobility scooters have a bigger market & so are much cheaper compared to actual wheelchairs (which this is competing with)
@@mehere8038 any idea on price of those?
This is very touching well done Dragons
How do we independently transfer and put this in a car?
What’s the battery power on them?
That was the best deal ever!!! They can only succeed.
The wheelchair on its own is 17 thousands how come one dragon pay for 13333 !!!!
Any one explains how this would work ?
I wonder if I could invest £13,333 AND get one for that to promote it? ;)
£40k in divided by 3 is not great maths but something tells me the Dragons can make it work,
He was so excited he couldnt do 5x3 in his head 😅
Yes ,maybe a safety / anti theft device built in .
Like fingerprint recognition to mobilise...
That machine is not only a disability aid, it is a rich kids toy which is a whole different and bigger market.
How on earth can you call it a rich kids toy .I use a wheelchair,I am no longer able to be much of a part of the world .My life is extremely curtailed.
Rich people are lazy, it's definitely a rich kid's toy.@@lindacarruthers3423
That went right over you head@@lindacarruthers3423
@@lindacarruthers3423 I think he was saying at £17,000 it's something only rich kids can afford, so therefore a toy.
Peter Jones made an excellent point! But I am so happy Steven saw the potential
This product is wheelie cool
Congrats, you're the 2nd prat to make that silly comment.
@@CB-xr1eg 'More salt please, table number 2'
Oh my god I want one, better than my chair!
Great stuff, but they should find a way to get the sit part cheaper than 7000 quid. How many people can afford 17k quid?