PAKISTANI'S team downfall started after IK became PM and dismantled regional cricket, it reached its lowest point when RAMIZ became chairman, and final nail in the coffin was the defeat against USA. This defeat is the just the reflection of all previous fault.
Hey guys on a separate note … now that the whole Pavilion Team on A sports has been compromised … 3 of them are Mentors … one of them (Moin Khan) has been compromised by his sons antics on and off the field … that leaves Fakhre Alam and Wasim to to rant between themself … wonder who will they empanel for the upcoming champions cup and the England series … a big loss to the entertainment industry … I am saddened !!!!!!!
In all honesty this is such an interesting point though, they were literally the only ones making sense on national TV in Pakistan. And now we have lost that to their own self interests. Just a sad state of affairs.
Heard you guys for the first time. Very balanced talk and honest discussion. Much better than most of Pakistan commentators. The real problem is your management and govt.
@Bissmanqt ESPN won’t help you here, buddy. The podcast was about Pakistan’s mess, not boosting your team. India’s up next, so let’s see how good Bangladesh really is. If you can’t handle different opinions, maybe stick to network news and try not to take things personally. No one really gives a damn.
Only thing to cherish in the last 10 yrs for Pakistan fans after winning champions trophy is their win against India in T20WC 2021. Other than that nothing notable. Mediocre They are following the path of West Indies.
What Azam Khan said is a reflection of "new" mentality of the nation especially in the government corridors. "Contractor" or "missionary force" mindset.
I think the current crop of players of pakistan are following the example of Windies players. They're not satisfied by the pay they get from PCB, so they're using their personal stat and fandoms to go and play in international leagues like Dubai leagues, CPL, The hundred, Lanka league, Bangladesh league etc.
How true!! We are losing more and more international talent to leagues, without realising cricket will never be a true global league sport. We are killing the sport in the garb of growing the sport. Such a massive point you have made.
I feel the management is a complete shit show. And the problem is that anyone can see that the team is not united. Shan needs to buckle up and start scoring otherwise the team won't respect him and he can make them work together which will lead to results which are happening now. And cricket cannot ever die in the subcontinent.
Hello guys … stay calm … tis ok … every playing nation goes thru these slumps …. We in India suffered for a long time till Ganguly and Dhoni and Virat and now Sharma came in … a few in my generation still remember the last ball 6 of Miandad that probably put our cricket back by about 5 years and destroyed the career of Chetan Sharma … all you need to do is blood new guys every three years and not make a prima-donna of someone … inshallah things will get better PS: if you guys get so low then humko “Mauka Mauka” khelneka mazza kaha ayega 😇
Hey mate! 😊 That was honestly one of the sweetest and kindest messages we've received since starting the podcast. You’re absolutely right-if Pakistan goes downhill, how will the Pakistan-India match even be fun? It would just feel too predictable, right? So yeah, keep watching our videos, and don’t forget to like and subscribe. Love from Fahad and Sarmad! ❤️🙌
@@FineLegsPodcast good podcast with good vibe is always well received … hope our generation and the next changes the dynamics and makes this subcontinent a EURO like zone with IPL … PSL and the the SAPL ( south Asian premier league ) or maybe the “INDUS premier league”
No offence... When you say that you guys are big babar Azam fan..really? He's a pure mediocre player who hasn't played a single exceptional innings across all formats in last 4 years where entire world would say like wow what an innings.. Rizwan, Saud and Salman agha has scored more than runs than babar on every occasion against different opposition... If you still believe babar is best then trust me your cricket is doomed forever... Now England will come and whitewash you if PCB doesn't take bold steps by dropping star player's if they cannot perform
Hey mate! 😊 You’re spot on about everything, except for Babar Azam. We still think he’s an exceptional player-probably the best Pakistan has produced in the last two decades. After legends like Saeed Anwar and Younis Khan, Babar’s all we've got. But is he a match-winner or someone you can count on in tough situations? Not yet, and we totally agree with you there. As for the PCB, it's just like any other organization in Pakistan-hard to fix. So let's sit back, relax, and watch it all unfold over the next few years. We’ll be here to chat about it! Thanks for your feedback, all great points. Keep watching our videos! 🙌
About babar azam Can you tell me how many tests he won alone for the team…? How many man of the match awards in icc tournaments….? Tell me the matches where he score when the team needs…? He has played 2017 champions trophy, 2018 Asia cup, 2019 odi World Cup ( his best ), 2021 t20 World Cup (his best) 2022 t20 Asia cup ( 0 fifties ) 2022 t20 World Cup ( India match duckout and his only knock was vs nz in semifinal) 2023 Asia Cup ( except 150 vs Nepal, he had terrible tournament) 2023 odi World Cup ( 0 centuries , pak won 4 matches in that matches see man of the match) 2024 t20 World Cup ( terrible tournament) Only 1 test man of the match award that too vs aus 194 (he didn’t win any matches for Pakistan ) 1 man of the match in odi World Cup ( 2019 nz game) 0 zero man of the match in t20i world cups ( 2021 World Cup was good but team won because of bowling) 2022 World Cup ( Haris and Shan are best performers than him 2024 World Cup ( terrible knock vs USA once he was on 4 of 14 balls,early dismissal vs India & Canada and in Ireland game Abbas and Shaheen performed best than him) How are you even considering him to be in fab 5 in tests.? ( he can’t win matches for team ) How can he greatest Pakistan batsman….? In his captaincy tenure team lost against Zimbabwe,Afghanistan,Ireland,usa.? He didn’t win any home test matches since 2021 ( eng,aus,nz) Behram bhai please check his matches which he won and not his stats,if he alone can win matches win for Pakistan then he will be considered great.? Till then all consider that he is statpadding
The only blessing in disguise is that INDIA is not playing CRICKET with Pakistan.
PAKISTANI'S team downfall started after IK became PM and dismantled regional cricket, it reached its lowest point when RAMIZ became chairman, and final nail in the coffin was the defeat against USA. This defeat is the just the reflection of all previous fault.
He used to call himself the PHD of cricket.
Hey guys on a separate note … now that the whole Pavilion Team on A sports has been compromised … 3 of them are Mentors … one of them (Moin Khan) has been compromised by his sons antics on and off the field … that leaves Fakhre Alam and Wasim to to rant between themself … wonder who will they empanel for the upcoming champions cup and the England series … a big loss to the entertainment industry … I am saddened !!!!!!!
True! It was our favorite show! Maybe we can fill that void 😂🙏
In all honesty this is such an interesting point though, they were literally the only ones making sense on national TV in Pakistan. And now we have lost that to their own self interests. Just a sad state of affairs.
Heard you guys for the first time. Very balanced talk and honest discussion.
Much better than most of Pakistan commentators.
The real problem is your management and govt.
Thank you! That means a lot 😄 Please like and subscribe for more.
Agreed!
@Bissmanqt ESPN won’t help you here, buddy. The podcast was about Pakistan’s mess, not boosting your team. India’s up next, so let’s see how good Bangladesh really is.
If you can’t handle different opinions, maybe stick to network news and try not to take things personally. No one really gives a damn.
Only thing to cherish in the last 10 yrs for Pakistan fans after winning champions trophy is their win against India in T20WC 2021. Other than that nothing notable. Mediocre
They are following the path of West Indies.
What Azam Khan said is a reflection of "new" mentality of the nation especially in the government corridors.
"Contractor" or "missionary force" mindset.
Another sher from the gazal you quoted last time:
"Wo jo tameer hone wali thi,
lag gayi aag uss imarat me"
- Jaun Elia
Love this! 🙏❤️
Last joke about levels was hilarious😂
Pakistan has a great cricketing history. I am sure they have quality domestic players. I think it is just a management issue.
I think the current crop of players of pakistan are following the example of Windies players. They're not satisfied by the pay they get from PCB, so they're using their personal stat and fandoms to go and play in international leagues like Dubai leagues, CPL, The hundred, Lanka league, Bangladesh league etc.
How true!! We are losing more and more international talent to leagues, without realising cricket will never be a true global league sport. We are killing the sport in the garb of growing the sport. Such a massive point you have made.
I feel the management is a complete shit show. And the problem is that anyone can see that the team is not united. Shan needs to buckle up and start scoring otherwise the team won't respect him and he can make them work together which will lead to results which are happening now. And cricket cannot ever die in the subcontinent.
Azam khan as opener ganna do wonders...powerplay me strike rotation nahi hai....hitting kro match apni taraf karoo
Hello guys … stay calm … tis ok … every playing nation goes thru these slumps …. We in India suffered for a long time till Ganguly and Dhoni and Virat and now Sharma came in … a few in my generation still remember the last ball 6 of Miandad that probably put our cricket back by about 5 years and destroyed the career of Chetan Sharma … all you need to do is blood new guys every three years and not make a prima-donna of someone … inshallah things will get better
PS: if you guys get so low then humko “Mauka Mauka” khelneka mazza kaha ayega 😇
Hey mate! 😊 That was honestly one of the sweetest and kindest messages we've received since starting the podcast. You’re absolutely right-if Pakistan goes downhill, how will the Pakistan-India match even be fun? It would just feel too predictable, right? So yeah, keep watching our videos, and don’t forget to like and subscribe. Love from Fahad and Sarmad! ❤️🙌
@@FineLegsPodcast good podcast with good vibe is always well received … hope our generation and the next changes the dynamics and makes this subcontinent a EURO like zone with IPL … PSL and the the SAPL ( south Asian premier league ) or maybe the “INDUS premier league”
No offence... When you say that you guys are big babar Azam fan..really? He's a pure mediocre player who hasn't played a single exceptional innings across all formats in last 4 years where entire world would say like wow what an innings.. Rizwan, Saud and Salman agha has scored more than runs than babar on every occasion against different opposition... If you still believe babar is best then trust me your cricket is doomed forever... Now England will come and whitewash you if PCB doesn't take bold steps by dropping star player's if they cannot perform
Hey mate! 😊 You’re spot on about everything, except for Babar Azam. We still think he’s an exceptional player-probably the best Pakistan has produced in the last two decades. After legends like Saeed Anwar and Younis Khan, Babar’s all we've got. But is he a match-winner or someone you can count on in tough situations? Not yet, and we totally agree with you there. As for the PCB, it's just like any other organization in Pakistan-hard to fix. So let's sit back, relax, and watch it all unfold over the next few years. We’ll be here to chat about it! Thanks for your feedback, all great points. Keep watching our videos! 🙌
About babar azam
Can you tell me how many tests he won alone for the team…?
How many man of the match awards in icc tournaments….?
Tell me the matches where he score when the team needs…?
He has played 2017 champions trophy,
2018 Asia cup,
2019 odi World Cup ( his best ),
2021 t20 World Cup (his best)
2022 t20 Asia cup ( 0 fifties )
2022 t20 World Cup ( India match duckout and his only knock was vs nz in semifinal)
2023 Asia Cup ( except 150 vs Nepal, he had terrible tournament)
2023 odi World Cup ( 0 centuries , pak won 4 matches in that matches see man of the match)
2024 t20 World Cup ( terrible tournament)
Only 1 test man of the match award that too vs aus 194 (he didn’t win any matches for Pakistan )
1 man of the match in odi World Cup ( 2019 nz game)
0 zero man of the match in t20i world cups ( 2021 World Cup was good but team won because of bowling)
2022 World Cup ( Haris and Shan are best performers than him
2024 World Cup ( terrible knock vs USA once he was on 4 of 14 balls,early dismissal vs India & Canada and in Ireland game Abbas and Shaheen performed best than him)
How are you even considering him to be in fab 5 in tests.? ( he can’t win matches for team )
How can he greatest Pakistan batsman….?
In his captaincy tenure team lost against Zimbabwe,Afghanistan,Ireland,usa.?
He didn’t win any home test matches since 2021 ( eng,aus,nz)
Behram bhai please check his matches which he won and not his stats,if he alone can win matches win for Pakistan then he will be considered great.?
Till then all consider that he is statpadding
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