Penang Praying Mantis Kungfu
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- We might have heard of Muay Thai and MMA, but how many of you have ever heard of the Praying Mantis Kungfu?
Here, we have the story of the Penang's first ever Tang Lang (Mantis) Kungfu school. This magnificent martial art is at the verge of extinction in Malaysia. The question is why?
Watch this to find out more!
I'm a mantis practitioner, from the UK, I've trained here a few years ago. It is a great KF club, and the style I find is; as Mr Wang described deeper and richer the more you study it. I have an opinion that martials arts are difficult to pass on, and it's possible you'll only get a surface understanding of the applications. By which time you may not appreciate what you had been taught. Also instructors don't always know or show the deeper aspects of applications. This has been missed. It's the essential part of any martial art training. For mantis and other arts to survive it's a fine balance of practical applications and traditional focus on forms. Which can become an empty performance. I continue to train in Huddersfield UK with the Tanglang academy. My master was taught from this school. I wish the Penang club well, and hope that they continue into the future. I hope to return for a class soon.
I agree. Personally, I found that studying Shuai Jiao and Qin Na has helped me tremendously in recognizing efficient, practical applications in traditional forms. Moves that in the past seemed obscure and impractical now reveal their usefulness, and this has given me a whole new appreciation for traditional Chinese Martial Arts
The treasure of Malaysia , Tang Lang kungfu . I was silat practitioner and really wanted to learn this powerful martial arts
Thanks for posting this. This fine art must not die. When a lineage dies out it is like the death of a language or culture. That particular note in the symphony of styles will not be heard anymore. We know that time means change,but for countless years human beings have always tried to preserve things that have deep meaning and value for future generations and have withstood the temptation to discard the old while reifying only what is novel. Bless these dedicated few who carry on with this fine art.
Many profound observations in this video. So true about modern culture not being conducive to a pursuit like Kung Fu. It takes a lot of time and discipline to learn, as she said, and our culture is training people to only pay attention to blurbs and headlines, or videos showing the biggest explosions, and the fastest most dramatic visuals. We need to take every opportunity to encourage and teach any young person who will pay attention for a moment. Thank you for posting this!
I believe that mantis kung fu has principles that are very effective in combat if applied properly and if practiced and trained with the intent to end a fight in seconds or find a quick escape from conflict. We see that hooking grabbing plucking clinging or sticking used with conditioning speed joint ligament and tendon manipulation is very effective and a unique aspect of mantis. The issue is often that the practitioner only trains the movements and not the principles and harder aspects that take longer to cultivate. That being said I also believe that learning other styles of martial arts can be beneficial especially if we incorporate the principles we train in Tang Lang Kung Fu.
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I studied a soft/internal style of Wing Chun after years of frustration with harder styles. I was always the smaller guy, barely 150 lbs; and I couldn't compete with heavier/stronger people. After taking up Wing Chun, I learned about lines, angles, leveraging, trapping, redirecting, etc. I'm not the baddest man in the land, but I have successfully ejected rowdy drunks from the restaurant on more than one occasion without anyone being hurt.
After watching this video, I absolutely agree with your assessment. There are a lot of solid techniques in Mantis Styles. I feel like I found long, lost family.
I agree sir. The key is using pressure points to understand these movements.
People should realize that this art is closely related, probably precursor to, or heavily integrated into other martial arts such as FMA's Kali, eskrima, panantukan, Bornean Kuntao, many silat styles like Lian padukan, buah pukul, beksi and many other.
These shows that this art is historically very effective at "street level" either on its own or integrated into other arts.
I dont really see any kung fu movements in arnis.
But in silat and kuntaw there are but kuntaw for me is very kung fu-ish(judging from its name.)
I love it .These guys are real. When I was training in Wu Chi Chuan . Or Wu Chi Tao after you have attain a black belt level the first form we practice was from 7 star mantis style . I loved it was only one form and it's at a more basic level . But the techniques with the hooks & drilling fung Yin Fist to the eyes . People always talk crap about the things they don't understand . In all actuality some of the techniques the MMA wouldn't let you use in the fights you can't finger strikes or use the mantis finger ranks across the eyes . I don't know alot of the 7 star mantis but feel blessed for what little I do . The style of mantis could be stacked up against most of the different Arts out there it is fare from tournament Art styles and practices .
Actually this style is adaptable for boxing. Using long guard in boxing, i have stance of a praying mantis. It is good for trapping and blinding vision of my opponents. I believe this art still can be adapted, not fully maybe but there are definitely useful tools. I respect that school.
Salutes
I will always remember this style because of a show I saw a long time ago where a lady who practiced this style challenged some TV host to try and grab her and she easily deflected any attempt to get ahold of her. Young me thought this was super badass.
A beautiful art that works
nice production and editorial...hope this martial art still exist and can attract more youngsters...Good job guys
Love Mantis! Its fast, effective and the foot work is killer! Seven Star mantis is where its at in my opinion but i'd love to train with these guys too! Lots of Respect 🙏
If You like mantis ,You must see "the thundering mantis"
@@radutudose1541 Seen it. Great old kung fu classic!
You made some good points, but alot of us trained for the love of the Praying Mantis Kung Fu but we do have to get better at advertising ourselfs, at the moment most Kung Fu schools are struggling with numbers, maybe some of the schools that have teachers with an open mind could come together and help to promote eachother schools, as I believe your success is my success and vice versa as together we are stronger, well done my brothers on your video i enjoy it, Sifu Bryan Barnes of the Northern Praying Mantis Kung Fu School...!
Well said! Totally agree with you. Thank you 👍
great work! you are truly amazing at this documentary, keep it up!
Do you guys practise sparring? I used to live near the Penang Chin Woo school in the late 60's. There were 2 sub- groups there- one group trained in many kungfu styles but they only learned the movements. The students were charged 50 cents per month! The other (smaller) group was the Praying Mantis group. The students were charged RM3.50 a month. They not only practised the moves but sparred with each other everyday.
Good video, thanks for promoting mantis fist, keep it up
That's like us in Choy Li Fut. I've been in both full contact fights in private with no one watching us and also with an audience, and I can tell you that they are TOTALLY different. Not even close to being the same. For example, I fight really well in private but am lost when in front of an audience. I cannot explain why it's different, I really don't know the reason, but it is.
The reason is in front of an audience there is a pressure to do well and an embarrassment if you lose,where as in private,you don't have to pressure of the audience expectations.
Kung fu was never meant for vanity. Universal law in the heart.
I think Gung Fu CAN MAKE a resurgence, IF people are interested in changing the marketing and exploring several new options.
IT'S SO GOOD! Smooth editing, transitions, nice color grading 😍 Good storyline too!
ikr so epic
what is the address of the school? I am flying to malaysia and want to know this school, I practice praying mantis
Hello here is the address for the school:
464E, Jalan Bukit Bendera, 11500 Ayer Itam, Pulau Pinang
so sad! many Tang Lang styles are doing well in the US but it's the same deal here; you have to have the kids in order to survive. wishing you success 🙏🙏
I love kung fu
Much support and respect Loh Kwang Yu cousins!
I guess i am one of the few who still want to learn
Same love mantis
大概30多年前，我师父纪瑞火带我们到梹城拜访黄锦洪师公。见过跟随黄锦洪师公练螳螂拳多年自开相馆的李先生和阿福（福建话）。演示三节棍的老师不知是否阿福。当年我们还互相交换六合枪和军中大刀。
I have 20 years old, and I practice 67 martial arts paring mantis is one of them and I use it in fight it's really work good, so trust me mantis style will not die today
@7STARTANGLANG
I BEGAN in MMA. It is MY belief that Gung Fu has JUST AS GOOD, if not a BETTER chance of winning IN-RING -
IF THE PRINCIPLES ARE DEEPLY UNDERSTOOD at a PROFOUND level, and is ingrained at the basic motor skill level,
Then Gung Fu will DESTROY MMA fighters. It’s just a fact.
I’d like to BRING GUNG FU to the MMA circuit, and watch it take over and adapt to survive.
Let me know if you’re interested, and want to hear more.
If I would have been there I would have learnt too for my tang lang is incomplete.
"if you get to run, you just run" I snorted
well, that's one way to
live hahaha
Oink, oink ? 🤣,’the best fight is the one you ran away from ‘ 👋
Honestly, that's any martial art out there. Running doesn't mean you're a 🐔, it just means you're being smart or say thinking with your conscience. Ex... You're in NY or any unknown city or state & someone starts a fight or attempts to be thievish/rob; you don't know the area, so don't think twice about trying to get away.
What a great documentary on a dying art…fascinating! Thanks for posting 😊
Bits & pieces I remember about this kungfu, Argyll Rd ? , Sifu Wong, & ‘dental suppliers’( my friend was salesman then)when kungfu movies were the rage !Anybody recall Lee PT ?
Sad. It takes a while learn it but it's truly beautiful once you get to advanced courses. Not for MMA because it uses plenty of illegal applications as does most kung fu styles.
What means illegal. Well at tournaments fight they have rules. In street fighting there exist no rules. For that reason the traditional martial arts was created for protection and survive. In a sports fight they used safeties. By using that no application is possible. For that reason the question if which style is better, a modern style or an traditional style is nonsense, what the most people do
Sorry pressure testing is the only way .....
I would love to hear back from you, sir.
so good weh plz shoot a feature film one day
Haha. Hopefully one day
Please show more videos of kung fu in Malaysia or kun tow(kung fu mix with silat).
I find the animal styles fascinating. I believe, sir, the key to understanding the animal styles are pressure points. If you understand how the animal styles use these points, this, is key to understanding it's effectiveness.
It would be good for us to get together and train.
Perhaps its just because of the location. If you moved to the city then its easier to attract students. Also, with respect, I've observed that there is a lack of intention and power when practicing drills. If your practice softly, youll fight softly which might also be why its not attracting students.
Hi my name is John I 20 year old I what I like I interest l what kung fu animal kung fu art
I love kung fu
No, honestly -
The REASON IS -
Because it’s SOOOO hard to FIND a master, let alone a GOOD one.
But tbh, I’d learn and spread it.
Idk.
I’m pretty exceptional with the martial arts.
I am coming to Malaysia. And I want to practice is there any place for practicing everyday ?
Facts!
For one thing the praying mantis style that you spoke of you did not show anything about the style itself like the basic moves or the strikes or the stances so it’s not an informative video
The reason why Kung Fu is declining isnt becaue of marketing, but because the effectiveness of Kung fu is lacking. I love kung fu and say theres benefit although I cannot say Ive seen alot of footage of Kung Fu being successful in fights or brawls.
You're right. The fact is, the masters got corrupted and became greedy removing all fighting syllabus and acrobatic training. Look at those in this video, none of them bother to train strength. They don't do any punches nor kicks neither. Watch this video again and you can see they only pose the punches and kicks. We don't pose the punch, kick while doing pattern taolu, we really punch and kick imagine there's an enemy ahead striking at right spot with speed, strength, accuracy. There were floor fighting & grappling too. Also in old days we use open hand gloves way before Bruce Lee in the 60's. These corrupted masters & disciples are best at lying and blaming others over own corruption led to dying business. I joined gymnastics & the army to master kungfu instead for the harsh training coz wushu & kungfu schools nowadays too corrupted
@@jayjay53313 i think some might get offended with this comment.. Their movement look lazy but I still applaud for their effort to keep the culture.. Wish them all the luck
@@elvinccw there's no effort at all. They corrupted the culture and would kill probably already killed the kungfu itself. If I paid 3 martial arts background racist guys that hated Chinese much to attack this McDojo, I bet these mantis fist fubai corrupted practitioners would be beaten up and knocked out unconscious real fast
I am interested. I just not able to learn at the moment
Just like most defenses againts a nife don't work. Many of these systems have never issued force or taken it....
In modern times with have impact gear, pressure testing, sports and global access.... A kick to the head or knee or punch to the head sorts out most people!!!
Mantis are good fighters but I’m just curious why are there no octopus style kungfu?
"Praying mantis
Very good
For catching bugs"
Master Christopher Chandler hop gar kung fu
Not just Praying Mantis, but a number of ancient, traditional
Kung-fu styles have taken a back-seat to Wing Chun/JKD.
The reason---because most of these ancient styles are too
limited, and not geared toward dealing with real-life "Street
Situations."
I mostly disagree. I think that traditionally CMA is very good for street fights where you can attack the neck, spine eyes etc. They're not geared towards boxing or MMA fights which still have some rules (tho not many). It does seem to me that many CMA styles are not very good at protecting the head which may be why Tang Lang was so successful with the hands higher and in front.
Also sad that CMA became a Wuxia driven business by the late 1800's and the type of "MMA style training" was replaced by more and more forms.
@@markboudreau1410 As long as they keep the hands in FRONT of
their body, to Guard, and Strike, and abandon all those, 'Flowery' moves
where the hands and arms are flailing all Over the place.
As far as JKD---It seems, a lot of you Martial Artists do not fully under-
stand the fundamental Principle thereof; It's always equated to be
some advanced form of Wing Chun, but in reality, JKD is simply,
What ever works for the individual...including, but not limited to,
Tossing Objects at your opponent, BITING him, Spittin' in his Eye,
MASING him---Whatever! JKD is a UNIVERSAL method of Self-
Defense that encompasses whatever Techniques work for the
individual---Including bits and pieces of the BEST of any given
"Style.'
tony ferguson
Any style can fight anyone anywhere. it’s the practitioner’s skill(gong fu) and these men are clearly lacking. I agree it’s not about fighting. It’s about knowing how to kill someone instantly in a life and death situation. Shalom
I love the form, really good in movies. But I am not sure in real street fight.
积极 does notean hectic, who made those subtitles?
halbred, not hellbringer
for catchin bugs
but not the tiger
Sorry to voiced out my 2 cents opinion, if you don't adapt to the current competition and trend.. You will be left behind, dare to make a big changes then you might survive.. Good luck
If gunpowder didn't exist we might be able to see a mantis user fighting against an american who used a hawk style.
MMA is taking over guys
No maestro. People just want to fight not play ballet. If kung fu can't give them that they will find another option.
Chinesen martial arts is not a performance art, but if your only way to practice is Taolu than its already dead
I strongly disagree with this video, it may mark the state of Kung Fu in Malaysia but in the West it has exploded! Take countries such as Germany, France and the UK in particular. More Westerners practice Kung Fu than any other traditional Martial Art aside from Muay Thai!
But in Malaysia, Taiwan & China, many young people tease kongfu as movie game. It is sad but is real...I would say we will never give up & continue the pass down with correct ways & attitude...🙂
It's heart-warming to see dedicated westeners trying to keep these traditions real and alive !
As french person, I disagree with this. Chinese martial arts are overall way behind japanese martial arts in terms of practicioners.
The Japanese have done a way better job promoting their arts worldwide for multiples reasons.
Westerners are indeed way more into martial arts than asian people are. That's true.
@@shinahchek3020 as a guy who live in malaysia i actualy i agree.i practice kungfu myself and many people do make fun of you
Seven Star Northern Mantis is alive and well in the UK, particularly in the Midlands area of the country.
What I saw that they make so weak punch, totally wrong in doing a punch they just hang up their arms. And these kungfu cannot apply in real life. Martial art in military is more effective than.
Dude! You forget how Mantis kung fu came about. Who invented Mantis kung fu and how? Why? When you answer those questions, you'll also have an answer to why you can't apply Mantis kung fu in practice. That is why there is less and less interest in kung fu. Throughout the history of kung fu, you have been waterdown kung fu into forms and artificial movements that are inapplicable to any kind of fight and even self-defense, and you practice them like a ritual, and that's why your style dies.
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Everyone knows avbot Kung Fu thoe
Very nice video production! However, if you really believe your mantis style is a "performance art" rather than a "fighting art", you have failed the system and it deserves to die. Fortunately, many of us are still producing good fighters through our mantis schools.
Thank you for your compliment. Totally agree. But here are some clarification. Yes the subject bios did mention that the mantis kungfu is unfortunately now becoming more like a performance art. They didn't disagree on it as a fighting art. They just don't see it as a combat sport. Not to mention, it shouldn't be used for wrong purpose like fighting at streets etc.
Let me clarify, I am one of the Interviewees. Mantis KungFu is indeed an fighting art, it's a martial art. However, it is not a combat sport. A lot of misconceptions are being made to KungFu so I had to emphasize that it is NOT a combat sport. But, a lot of the Mantis KungFu moves can be integrated into SanDa, the Chinese Combat System.
@@ErnieLam19 Thank you for the clarification! I would agree that if you look at sports that blatantly box the fighter into fighting by rules that disallow many of our combat responses, we would not be considered a "combat sport" by them. I am an old man who has trained for over five decades and remembers a time when "combat sports" were less restrictive. Good luck to my brothers in Penang! I hope things turn around for your school. :)
It don't attract the young cus it's not practical in the day and age. I'm sorry but a boxer, mma, Thai boxer, kickboxing, wrestler would destroy these martial arts.
It is depend on person than arts
@@malakatan3235 then the art is gonna die out cus u don't understand the origin and what it used was historically. And the argument it depends on the person is a false narrative because if you put styles I mentioned before, they beat a person of traditional marital arts 99% of the time.
Fake :))))
Hi my name is John I 20 year old I what I like I interest l what kung fu animal kung fu art