Susan Silver on LAYNE STALEY's Drug Addiction: “He Tried His Best” (Ex-Alice in Chains Manager)
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Alice in Chains lineup throughout the Layne Staley era consisted of Layne Staley (87 - 98), Jerry Cantrell (87 - 98), Sean Kinney (87 - 98), Mike Starr (87 - 93) & Mike Inez (93 - 98).
Alice in Chains post-Layne Staley has consisted of William DuVall (06 - Present), Jerry Cantrell (05 - Present), Sean Kinney (05 - Present) & Mike Inez (05 - Present).
The We Die Young EP consists of three tracks: We Die Young, It Ain't Like That, Killing Yourself.
Facelift consists of twelve tracks: We Die Young, Man in the Box, Sea Of Sorrow, Bleed The Freak, I Can't Remember, Love, Hate, Love, It Ain't Like That, Sunshine, Put You Down, Confusion, I Know Somethin (Bout You), Real Thing.
Sap consists of 5 tracks: Brother, Got Me Wrong, Right Turn, Am I Inside, Love Song.
Dirt consists of 13 tracks: Them Bones, Dam That River, Rain When I Die, Down in a Hole, Sickman, Rooster, Junkhead, Dirt, God Smack, Iron Gland, Hate to Feel, Angry Chair, Would?
Jar of Flies consists of 7 tracks: Rotten Apple, Nutshell, I Stay Away, No Excuses, Whale & Wasp, Don't Follow, Swing on This.
Self-titled consists of 12 tracks: Grind, Brush Away, Sludge Factory, Heaven Beside You, Head Creeps, Again, Shame in You, God Am, So Close, Nothin' Song, Frogs, Over Now
The MTV Unplugged performance consisted of 13 songs: Nutshell, Brother, No Excuses, Sludge Factory, Down In A Hole, Angry Chair, Rooster, Got Me Wrong, Heaven Beside You, Would?, Frogs, Over Now, The Killer Is Me.
Black Gives Way to Blue consists of 11 tracks: All Secret Know, Check My Brain, Last of My Kind, Your Decision, A Looking in View, When the Sun Rose Again, Acid Bubble, Lesson Learned, Take Her Out, Private Hell, Black Gives Way to Blue.
The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here consists of 12 tracks: Hollow, Pretty Done, Stone, Voices, The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here, Lab Monkey, Low Ceiling, Breath on a Window, Scalpel, Phantom Limb, Hung on a Hook, Choke.
Rainier Fog consists of 10 tracks: The One You Know, Rainier Fog, Red Giant, Fly, Drone, Deaf Ears Blind Eyes, Maybe, So Far Under, Never Fade, All I Am.
Boggy Depot (Jerry Cantrell solo record) consists of 12 songs: Dickeye, Cut You In, My Song, Settling Down, Break My Back, Jesus Hands, Devil by His Side, Keep the Light On, Satisfy, Hurt a Long Time, Between, Cold Piece.
Degradation Trip Volumes 1 & 2 (Jerry Cantrell solo double record) consists of 25 songs: (Volume 1) Psychotic Break, Bargain Basement Howard Hughes, Owned, Angel Eyes, Solitude, Mother's Spinning in Her Grave (Glass Dick Jones), Hellbound, Spiderbite, Pro False Idol, Feel the Void, Locked On, Gone. (Volume 2) Castaway, Chemical Tribe, What it Takes, Dying Inside, Siddhartha, Hurts Don't It? (Instrumental), She Was My Girl, Pig Charmer, Anger Rising, S.O.S., Give It a Name, Thanks Anyways, 31/32.
Brighten (Jerry Cantrell solo record) consists of 9 tracks: Atone, Brighten, Prism of Doubt, Black Hearts and Evil Done, Siren Song, Had to Know, Nobody Breaks You, Dismembered, Goodbye.
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No soul can replace another soul.William DuVall is a complete musician. Vocally,Lead and rhythm guitar, songwriter.He has done a amazing job.Why shouldn't the 3 surviving members continue to play? Layne derailed the band in 95.
Layne was beyond human aid.He was chasing something that was chasing him. Hopelessness prevailed.We miss him.
The other guys have a right to live.
In your opinion. I personally think DuVall is a good guitar player but a subpar vocalist.
This was beautifully said..
DuVall really doesn’t add a lot to the group. The albums without Layne are pretty underwhelming. Jerry can’t do it all alone. I think it’s evident when you listen to the most recent albums and I think it’s fair to judge them as AIC albums, and as AIC albums they just aren’t that good. While the Layne albums are all classics, that’s really all there is to it.
@@AndI0td763 exactly. These last 3 albums really show how integral Staley was to the band. The magic formula involved him + Jerry. It's just a farcry from what it was, and I believe anyone who says differently is just fooling themselves. There's a reason I keep coming back to the Staley era albums all the time, but after listening to Rainier Fog, Devil and BGWTB each a lot, I just eventually lost interest no matter how much I want to love them. Its not THE AIC without Staley. He was a great musician and a unique talent, not just a vocalist.
Susan Silver did everything she could to help Layne. She even hired bodyguards to keep him away from people who might try to pass him drugs. You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved. Rest in peace, Layne.
Being friends with Layne for 5+ years...In my heart, Demri;s passing and him being exposed to the Evil's behind the music industry ( Harvey / Epstein ) type chit. Layne had a heart of gold, and me, myself would be traumatized to seek chemical's to numb the pain. God Bless your soul Layne !!! Jeff Hubbard
Dang dude . If what uou said is true I’m sorry about you losing a friend . Almost 20 years ago I moved into an apt right off of 45 just a block from Layne’s condo . I went to the rainbow bar sometimes back then and one of the bartenders said Layne used to come into the bar once in a while a couple years before and it was pretty said . He said Layne was in bad shape and would just nod off at a table by himself , usually . Anyways idk if you went down the same road but If you did I hope you found your way out .
I left the music scene when Susan and Kelly told the guys that I could not be part of the crew. I went on to win 5 Nascar championships at Evergreen Speedway. AIC sponsored my car in 1994.
Candlebox Sponsored me for the 1995 Championship season. I feel I was Dissed.. Alice had so many managers come and go that promised the world.. when Susan and Kelly came along, I did not kiss ass... just did my my job. Jeff Hubbard @@ktothec24
Tests. Do you have any video with him to confirm it? Or a photo
Somebody does, This was the era before cell phones and selfies. The times photo shoot's were being done, crew and friends stayed out of the picture. I can see myself for a split second here and there next to mikes bass rig in old live videos. 8) In this video, I'm the guy on the right with the Alice in Chain baseball cap on backwards.ua-cam.com/video/hGpBnB-jYa8/v-deo.html @@IgnacioAlanWagnerKostelic
I knew it! I've always said that something happened to Layne that was driving him full-speed into addiction, that no one knew about or talked about, and I figured it was some Harvey Weinstein or Jani Lane type of horror show in the music business. Thanks for confirming, although vaguely, that I'd been right all along.
Miss him. Beautiful, beautiful man.
Same for Chris Cornell
Same for Andy Wood
Same for Kurt Cobain
It’s painful.
Bottom line is you can’t be THAT authentic without living the life you’re writing/singing about. Sucks but I focus on the fact this dude lived fast as fuck, I’m sure had an AMAZING time, and left us with music we’ll all play until we die. I think it’s gonna rain.
It’s a shame that Andrew Wood’s passing wasn’t enough to keep Layne away from heroin. Apparently Layne was very upset when Andy passed away so it’s a shame that he went down the same road.
Susan didn't give a shit about Layne and his addiction. Even when he was deteriorating she wanted them to continue working. Jerry put his foot down and told her the band's taking time off so Layne can get better. Their song Sludge Factory has a lot to do with her and other higher ups in the industry. Many songs did. SF in particular has some lyrics pointed directly at her.
I understand heroin addiction all too well as have been an addict for over 20+ years. It's a soul destroying hell that I wouldn't wish on anyone. It's not just the physical side of it either. The mental cravings are debilitating to the point you become one track minded and it haunts your dreams. Getting over the physical withdrawals is just the beginning because you have a lifetime of mental cravings to follow. To anyone who's beaten it, I applaud you and wish you the best. I also envy the hell out of you. Stay strong❤.
One minute at a time, sister
When did Susan become lanes mother. Fuck him. he succeeded in dragging everything good, down with him
Well said!🤘
If somebody has it in their mind to harm themselves there is nothing you can do.
I didn't know that song was about her; I thought it was about his girlfriend. Either way, it was still about a girl. I think she cared about him. It's gotta be tough to manage a junkie. I'll give her that much.
I hope you're on a good path. You sound kinda bummed out. Lemme know. Take care.
Have you seen Lily Cornell Silver's performance of Black Gives Way To Blue? It's beautiful.
I think the grunge/Gen x era music was part and parcel of the lifestyle, and that is why so many of them couldn't get away from it. I always thought it was sad, dark noise coming from sad, dark people. Didn't like it then. Don't miss it now.
Weird going to court
You walk in with ur little envelope of papers ,go to court,lawyer want some money,judge says stuff, lawyer says stuff to u, you get to leave and get in ur car and ur starving?? Like why so hungry?
The number of dead from the Gen X-era bands is astounding. It was so fun when it all started (late 80's), exploded in the fall of '91, and all these years later most of the shining lights of this, what to call it... a movement of sorts, are long gone. Sad.
This is very true, and I feel like in a lot of cases is only being noticed now. I mean yes, quote unquote “rock star” as a profession has historically been a hazardous, dead-young kind of profession, but not on the massive scale of this era, especially when you start thinking about suicide…
@@mywhychromosome I think it's because heroin use and abuse was rampant in Seattle in the 90s. The 80s Bay Area thrash metal bands didn't have the same number of casualties because most of them weren't using heroin.
@@ktw70 This is true, but it’s just as big right now…and the dope is stronger
@@mywhychromosome And now it's cut with fentanyl and xylazine, too. At least Kurt and Layne didn't have to deal with that. Such a sad situation. Sending hope and healing to anyone in active addiction right now.
Long Gone Day... 😔
🤘😎🤘 R.I.P. Layne LSMS
Handlers Handle ...she was no different
I think these folks had good intentions... but the truth is if an addict wants to kill themselves, they'll eventually succeed!
Someone in America ODs on drugs EVERY 5 MINUTES... only difference is this a guy who's name we all know, who made an impact on other people . Most are anonymous
Alice in Chains is one of the greatest bands to ever exist. So many of their songs speak right to me. Very few bands do it to me like that.
Unfortunately that's the music business folks. The manager's job is to keep the client working so everybody can keep getting paid. It has no conscience. It doesn't care. We've seen the story how many times? With how many different artists that died? I was in the business for many many years. It doesn't care. It just wants to get paid.
You know what I don't feel sorry for these people like Staley...i was addicted to opiates for over a decade and I got sober have been for 12 years now...and I get it I was a musician and a blues man and i romanticized this whole deal about being a druggie and all of that business...but that's all a lie and a trick that the devil plays on you...here is the deal... either you want a better life for yourself or you love dope more...its really that simple..and Layne clearly loved dope more ...and when your in that frame of mind you don't think about anything else or anyone else its all about not getting dope sick..i know all about that business..
But there comes a point where you either wake up and say i can't do this anymore and I don't want to this anymore or I'm going to die... that's how it worked for me...i was in my bathroom going thru my mourning regiment of getting my shot of whiskey ready and had my three 30mg morphine pills in my hand..I popped the pills in my mouth and picked up the glass of whiskey to wash the pills down with and when I looked up i saw myself in the mirror and I just and looked at my sunken eyes and just stopped and started crying...i knew right then and there i as done and this would be the last time i ever got high again ...i took the shot swallowed the morphine and went and told my wife i was done...I had already been to rehab twice but I was just playing the game until I could get out and get high again...so it's really all about being sick and tired of being sick and tired and I was really just so sick and tired I wanted out...I went back to rehab took it seriously and worked a program went to my meetings got a sponsor and have been sober ever since...to be honest about it I don't really even think about it anymore...I took the steps I needed to take and moved on with my life...but I want everyone to know I couldn't have done it alone ...i had support from my wife my children and most importantly i had help from God....its a long tough road but it can be done....I know speak at N.A. meetings and try and give some kind of inspiration for those who are struggling with addiction.....✝️✝️✝️
Isn’t that the woman Chris Cornell sued for a million $ and hand a slight hand in Cobain’s intervention…?
Susan silver never had a bunch of live shows recorded
Why is her perspective relevant?
every time I find something on grunge I like I find your name, why am I not a sub of yours ? why ? ill fix that right now , you seam to be on your game brother,
"he tried his best" ha! What kind of title is that?
Manager: What about...stop doing heroin? Why dontcha give that a go?
Layne: I'll try my best.
It is onw of the hardest drugs to quit the energy of this drugs sucks your soul with a straw..
Its not as dumb as your comment!🙄
“I’ll try my best” sounds like something an addict would say when they’re trying to stop using for the wrong reasons. Like,they’re not really ready to stop and they’re doing it for someone else,as a favor. Any addict knows that this approach will not end in success. If you’re not at the point to where you WANT to quit using,you shouldn’t even bother trying to rehab.
However,asking or requesting an addict to “just stop” is like asking someone to just stop eating. There’s no chance in HELL that’s gonna happen. The IMMENSE fear of withdrawal,known as dope-sickness,has got to be THE major factor in keeping an addict in chains,so to speak. And today’s fentanyl (since heroin is,now,obsolete on the American market) produces even stronger,more intense withdrawals than heroin EVER did!
@@kauangabriel3657 if you believe that then you dont know enough about humans or drugs. Heroine gives you many reasons to stop, the more you inject it the more it will make you hate it
This is what Mark Lanegan describes in one of his books. He found Layne at home who had returned from rehab the same day to obtain heroin discreetly because he didn't want to be seen around the dealers. Lanegan disagreed, since Layne was clean. But he replied that he had done the detoxification treatment to please everyone who was putting pressure on him, and that if he didn't give it to him he would look for it elsewhere. Lanegan relented. Layne's mother said she was outraged because there was no follow-up after rehab and her son immediately fell back into his addiction.
People do drugs to tell you they are in pain, but in doing that they put themselves in chanis they will most likely not break. There is nothing romantic about self inflicted pain. There is nothing nothing romantic in being lost and sinful. If layne were to speak about his life he would be full of shame and sorrow- oh wait he has, he also called himself a junkhead
I could either drown
Or pull off my skin, and swim to shore
Not necessarily. I think a lot of you do drugs and think you can relate to him. Unless you were a high profile rockstar living life to the limit, you can’t possibly. It’s different for rock stars/celebrities, imo.
@@theDiReW0lf youre right. But i do know what i am talking about
Amen.
It isn’t about sin. Opiod addiction is not a moral crisis. It’s a health crisis.
She is a liar, a monster, a handler. Look at the lyrics and meaning of Sludge Factory. She perpetuated his use and formed the image of “ sick ol’ Layne”
What was the story of her & ex Chris Cornell?
He married Vicky Karayiannis pretty quickly after the divorce with Susan Silver was finalized.
@@aurelielagrange2173 I honestly don’t know. I’ve only heard great things about Chris behind the scenes.
@@Baloothepibble Such a loss. Chris, Layne, Andy Wood & Kurt. 💧
Without layne alice shouldt continue
You should not continue.
NoLayne=NoChains!!!
am going to make a shirt with that!
Indeed-AIC died when Layne died.
Jerry Cantrell is much more important
Jerry's done extremely well to keep their sound alive but Duvall doesn't hold a candle to Layne. I can't say I haven't liked any of their post-Layne stuff but it definitely isn't the same. I'm a Layneaholic and prefer Layne-era AIC for sure👌🏻.
@nelliesilvers1210 yes I've heard a few good ones since layne has passed.