NIGMA vs LIQUID - WHAT A GAME - ESL ONE BANGKOK 2024 DOTA 2

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  • @ThoughtTherapy-300
    @ThoughtTherapy-300 Місяць тому +135

    Nigma have a lot of chance to 2-0 team but they always struggle when it pass mid game..now they switch with sumail as core and playing around him..before they used 4 to sacrifice protect miracle farm ..now they give miracle versa hero so dont need much farm and can play aggresive while playing around sumail as a core

    • @grenzy5545
      @grenzy5545 Місяць тому +13

      I think the draft in game 1 also terible

    • @arthapratama935
      @arthapratama935 Місяць тому +2

      it was better to change sumail for carry and miracle mid

    • @bigonicha3225
      @bigonicha3225 Місяць тому +7

      @@grenzy5545that viper pick was the real problem.Outside of that the draft was pretty nice.Mk can jump on top of TA and man fight them but had no game unfortunately because they left no space for them to farm

    • @jhdivina
      @jhdivina Місяць тому +2

      @@bigonicha3225aside from mk, pango was pretty useless in g1, with two heroes countering roll.

    • @mrpoks4282
      @mrpoks4282 Місяць тому +1

      Good point they are winning if sumail playing mid core hereos. While Miracle can play roaming carry hereos.

  • @CHASAsher
    @CHASAsher Місяць тому +155

    Nigma is finally back after all these years, I even won 80€ on that game 2 because no one believed Nigma could take a game off Liquid. In my opinion Miracle and the boys are looking better than ever, they can go far in this tourney.

    • @bag2963
      @bag2963 Місяць тому +4

      Don't gamble!!

    • @HockeyMan666
      @HockeyMan666 Місяць тому

      miracle is the GOAT of dota 2

    • @darwin1986
      @darwin1986 Місяць тому +1

      Where did u place the bet

    • @barberismeable
      @barberismeable Місяць тому +1

      gamble is haram bro. How much you spent bet?

  • @thexgamer8240
    @thexgamer8240 Місяць тому +199

    Nigma is so back, boys. Let’s aim for that major title.

    • @DeadWaits
      @DeadWaits Місяць тому +4

      LOL

    • @dexteretoy
      @dexteretoy Місяць тому +19

      its still a stretch lol, but happy to see them do at least a bit better than usual. Hope they make it out of the groupstage

    • @skysheep747
      @skysheep747 Місяць тому +1

      With noob offlaner no chance.

    • @rosemary1346
      @rosemary1346 Місяць тому +4

      Nah bro, kuroky still there, IM gonna pass sorry 😂

    • @heilZu77
      @heilZu77 Місяць тому +2

      Nigma, when praised, becomes depressed😤

  • @ryanlam7962
    @ryanlam7962 Місяць тому +25

    Nigma is doing extremely well against all the big names. Im glad they switched their play style. Seeing miracle freestyle carry and sumail got all the supports made them strong this tournament. Hopefully they are not gonna go back to all for 1 strategy again.

  • @justcallmefool
    @justcallmefool Місяць тому +2

    im glad that they're doing well now a little bit of time and they'll get the momentum gl boys

  • @NOOBGAMER-pm1pv
    @NOOBGAMER-pm1pv Місяць тому +8

    12:19 ogre just clapping for enemies to kill clinkz while tp away

  • @thekaiochin
    @thekaiochin Місяць тому +15

    guys, ma boys are improving. Lets be honest. If we look back and now, this team is winning against INCREDIBLE teams in TI, and being honestly, they are doing great. Some mistakes in offlane to correct, but sups now are moving around mid, helping sumail, miracle playing so agressive heroes... yeah, we are getting there

  • @ReapingRen
    @ReapingRen Місяць тому +16

    As long as Kuro is not playing they actually have a chance

  • @pepehands2448
    @pepehands2448 Місяць тому +50

    holy nigma. they need to work on their positioning on the map and we are so back baby

    • @eyevanray
      @eyevanray Місяць тому

      That's their biggest problem, and the draft in game 1 was bad

    • @MakhlukBiasa-gp1hn
      @MakhlukBiasa-gp1hn Місяць тому

      @@eyevanray thats why they got tie every match :(

    • @LALAlala-nq3ws
      @LALAlala-nq3ws Місяць тому

      The draft was decent, just some forced errors from team (which they always make). Hope they fix that issues

  • @echoftw
    @echoftw Місяць тому

    "AND they're gonna get the black dragon!" LMAO i haven't laughed that loud in a while

  • @maherylala2153
    @maherylala2153 Місяць тому +2

    That draft on the second game is so gooood

  • @syhrlelz
    @syhrlelz Місяць тому +14

    Sumail is crushing nisha really bad. The goat of midlane

  • @Cmdjjdcn
    @Cmdjjdcn Місяць тому +5

    If Nigma starts winning OMG its so good for the dota community

    • @so-toa9758
      @so-toa9758 Місяць тому +2

      The Manchester United of DOTA 😂

    • @sapotesaptek
      @sapotesaptek Місяць тому

      its bad for me

  • @jeloong9359
    @jeloong9359 Місяць тому +15

    They'd be 1-1 every game so far. Not doing bad at all!

  • @hungnguyen12481
    @hungnguyen12481 Місяць тому +223

    Suma1l makes Nisha look like crusader

    • @almostshourd
      @almostshourd Місяць тому +35

      yes I have been following sumail and the easiest mid laner for him is nisha tbh. he always destroys him even with bad match up. and with worst match up sumail still holds up a bit

    • @rhessan11
      @rhessan11 Місяць тому +3

      0 cs lol

    • @johndoe-lx3zh
      @johndoe-lx3zh Місяць тому +29

      nisha at 5 min mark has 34/12 to 12/5 on sumail, is this sarcasm?

    • @hardwired66
      @hardwired66 Місяць тому +1

      True god

    • @ak1bo1412
      @ak1bo1412 Місяць тому +36

      ​@@johndoe-lx3zh nisha should delete dota if he loses lane as viper against mk

  • @Kawarezayi
    @Kawarezayi Місяць тому +32

    Fear and casters kept glazing Pure in the match against BB, Miracle out performed him in both games even though they lost the first.

    • @kingseiryu929
      @kingseiryu929 Місяць тому +4

      Absolutely miracle must be the best even though he didn’t place high in any recent tournaments but yes he is the best absolutely. He may stay that way always

    • @pogiakolagi1909
      @pogiakolagi1909 Місяць тому

      @@Adiwbk it gets her shining moment. Nigma has the biggest fanbase that rivals the 2-Time OG Champs. The fanbase consists mostly from Miracle and Sumail fans. But talking sht and dismissing Nigma gives better engagement than supporting them right now since they are always losing. That Ephey girl does what she's supposed to do so she can keep her career at the limelight.

    • @Adiwbk
      @Adiwbk Місяць тому

      @@pogiakolagi1909 but giving out false stats to the audience shouldn't be taken lightly. That's just outright lying. She made it sound like the years of Dota before 2023 didn't exist. That's disrespectful to all the legends who made Dota what it is now. People like Puppey, Kuro, Fear etc.

  • @roelrepasa2047
    @roelrepasa2047 Місяць тому +10

    Durag miracle is doing it! Don't cover that receding hairline G 😂

    • @feralpas3848
      @feralpas3848 Місяць тому +3

      He got that yuragi hairline fr 😂

    • @roelrepasa2047
      @roelrepasa2047 Місяць тому

      @feralpas3848 he needs to let it go man aint no dazzle grave to save a man's receding hairline 😆

  • @ThoughtTherapy-300
    @ThoughtTherapy-300 Місяць тому +4

    They need put sumail as core and playing around him!!this method is better while giving miracle a hero don`t need much farm but can play aggresive on early game..before they used to protect/sacrifice themselves for miracle farm and always 4 protect miracle..Now this is better they all playing around sumail and make aggresive move!!but they realy need working on late game..always struggle past mid game like with BB team and gaozo

  • @kronnomofo322
    @kronnomofo322 Місяць тому

    "and they're getting the black dragon" wow, that's a vital info right here folks! HAHAHAHAH I love the humor of these casters man

  • @rac8153
    @rac8153 Місяць тому +3

    Game 1 was the first time this event where Liquid didnt draft triple losing lanes and Saberlight wasnt a complete deadweight. Guess what ? They won that game

  • @souderyabbas3732
    @souderyabbas3732 Місяць тому +5

    that bro fist + high five is so awkward lol 31:00

  • @rhessan11
    @rhessan11 Місяць тому +12

    How did Nigma become so dominant? Against bigger teams, Nigma has higher kill difference every time they win compared to when they lose. ex here: 43-19 vs 38-10.

    • @pogiakolagi1909
      @pogiakolagi1909 Місяць тому +10

      They are also always almost winning most of their game 1s. Until throwing.

    • @johnflorence2672
      @johnflorence2672 Місяць тому +4

      they benched kuroky that was playing poorly

    • @TheMoXyYT
      @TheMoXyYT Місяць тому +4

      They seems to choke a lot around midgame and late game. Beside some specifics series, their early were pretty good. Sometimes they just cant keep up the gold lead, and then sometimes they overdoit and throw lol.

    • @kylechapin5466
      @kylechapin5466 Місяць тому

      they just cant get rid of taiga​@@TheMoXyYT

    • @mingyitey6902
      @mingyitey6902 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@TheMoXyYT hope they can fix that problem, bcoz if they manage to keep that advantage, they nearly 2-0 every team so far in this tour

  • @Ravi-fw3ee
    @Ravi-fw3ee Місяць тому +1

    dude these players have been in the scene for SOOOOO long.. but still are one of the best.. miracle sumail and GH..hvaing rough times as a team. . the rest of the players of their time have faded away.. topson, puppey, notail, Ceb, zai, and so many more.. these are some quality players... Kuroky finally backed off ..well done by him..... Miracle will be GOD of this game FOREVER..

  • @bendanglcr17
    @bendanglcr17 Місяць тому +1

    The man dont miss is a funny line for sniper ult

  • @random_hunter1661
    @random_hunter1661 Місяць тому +1

    game 2's radiant is snipper wet dream
    2 frontline pseudo tanker, 2 healers and all those disablers

  • @atlier4053
    @atlier4053 Місяць тому +1

    When you watch live, this nigma is much much much better than the previous nigma. A sign of comeback?

  • @1Aluisio
    @1Aluisio Місяць тому +2

    Nigma looks so good right now. Love this guys

  • @thesuccesstheory8914
    @thesuccesstheory8914 Місяць тому +2

    Never seen fans of a team this excited in the comments for a draw

    • @Alya200I
      @Alya200I Місяць тому +1

      wth you even care?

  • @Manlrp
    @Manlrp Місяць тому +1

    Liquid didn't expect dazzle offlane

  • @onigirisaigoh3446
    @onigirisaigoh3446 Місяць тому +4

    Game 2 draft by Nigma is actually so big brain, 4 protect 1 for KING SUMAIL is paying well off!

  • @ginanjarbinatoro6677
    @ginanjarbinatoro6677 Місяць тому +1

    Hope nigma keep perform this good on their next game

  • @rafaelmarkos4489
    @rafaelmarkos4489 Місяць тому

    I hope the Nigma roster decide to stick together despite the resulds being not that good on paper - there's a lot of scope for improvement, and the roster has so much potential in being able to draft more widely than most other teams they are competing with. Sumail and Miracle have both been playing for so long that they have massive hero pools and great potential for flex picking - it would be great to see them actually use that potential.

  • @RamsonPrint
    @RamsonPrint Місяць тому

    Funny to see Fans sooooo hyped for a DRAW

  • @MLHD919
    @MLHD919 Місяць тому +5

    29:59 that micke mouse tp lol

    • @Сергей-ы7р7р
      @Сергей-ы7р7р Місяць тому

      hahahah looking for this notice, i laughed so hard

    • @justforeu
      @justforeu Місяць тому

      nothing wrong with the tp, u herald?

  • @steamevo3002
    @steamevo3002 Місяць тому +24

    even i lost $500 because i bet on liquid, i'm getting excited when nigma win. keep it up.

  • @veganradiation
    @veganradiation Місяць тому +1

    "You do not want to die outside of your base right now, It's going to be a death sentence"..... well ya?? You'd be dead already

  • @matthewkimball8440
    @matthewkimball8440 Місяць тому +3

    Been watching Nigma lose for a while, was still a Nigma fan the whole time. Exciting to see their hard work paying off more as time goes on.

  • @rook3118
    @rook3118 Місяць тому +1

    Thug Life Miracle on Shaker get stuff done.

  • @ngedenimstore
    @ngedenimstore Місяць тому +1

    katakan pada dunia, king nigma is back!!

  • @hectorfrankromeroisaac7102
    @hectorfrankromeroisaac7102 Місяць тому +3

    Imagine this nigma with ATF playing off laner, carry games next to his idols nigma would be a tier 1 team

    • @tonceanmarius7775
      @tonceanmarius7775 Місяць тому +2

      They literally had ATF in team and everyone was blaming him

    • @shawnchuang1450
      @shawnchuang1450 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@tonceanmarius7775because atf was playing pos1 in nigma

    • @LALAlala-nq3ws
      @LALAlala-nq3ws Місяць тому

      They have kuro as an offset soo

    • @hectorfrankromeroisaac7102
      @hectorfrankromeroisaac7102 Місяць тому

      @tonceanmarius7775 fans blame him as hc, nobody on nigma blame him, actually all of em has personal relationships

  • @hi0330
    @hi0330 Місяць тому

    Hopefully they get top 3 place and give us all time fans a bit of hope even though team always inconsistent.

  • @hectorfrankromeroisaac7102
    @hectorfrankromeroisaac7102 Місяць тому +4

    Nigma bringing back good dota 2 show how to win not playing mechanic, static and bored "meta game"

    • @rifqimfauzan6809
      @rifqimfauzan6809 Місяць тому +1

      yeah but when they lose people blaming kuro draft, this is why i love BB, Gaozu and Nigma they not playing boring meta draft like Falcon, GG and Liquid. That Dream League entertaintment tier list is really on point

  • @rikomamadesu
    @rikomamadesu Місяць тому +1

    damn seeing sumail and nisha mid at 2024-2025? count me in.

  • @roshancherian6433
    @roshancherian6433 Місяць тому +3

    Time and time again, no matter the meta, miracle still plays amazing! Goat for sure

  • @StayPositive-d9u
    @StayPositive-d9u Місяць тому +2

    What happened to Sumail game 1, he was so far behind any idea?

    • @mr.G1F
      @mr.G1F Місяць тому +3

      That's bc their pos4 is useless in every game that omar been a passive support since day 1.. Gh should play the pos4

    • @prasannavenkatesanrangaraj2873
      @prasannavenkatesanrangaraj2873 Місяць тому +3

      try playing into viper as mk you'll know. Its just way to punishing, after level 3-4 when he has lvl + cs advantage on you its just impossible to lane. Thats why you just rotate a lot as the mid instead and just punish the enemy team carry

  • @aaroncruz5515
    @aaroncruz5515 Місяць тому +5

    Sumail most of the time dominating nisha in mid whenever they match

  • @afiesolomon6889
    @afiesolomon6889 Місяць тому

    Is the editor from noobfromua?

  • @cardboard9933
    @cardboard9933 Місяць тому

    crazy how hard the caries get shut down. Sumail found virtually nothing game 1, and m1cke had no game whatsoever in game 2

  • @chadryaldanovbirwen6498
    @chadryaldanovbirwen6498 3 дні тому

    I don't understand what sumail thinking, i mean i know he will lose lane against viper but not even taking 1 jingu? Can someone explain to me?

  • @xcalib_r
    @xcalib_r Місяць тому

    God bless coach Kuro for his overwhelming draft victory.

    • @rifqimfauzan6809
      @rifqimfauzan6809 Місяць тому

      Its funny looking at Nigma first match when they pick pos 1 ES people make fun of his draft and now its the meta

    • @nostrahazer8970
      @nostrahazer8970 Місяць тому

      Yeah i admit nigma draft is actually refreshing

  • @robloxianezegar9976
    @robloxianezegar9976 Місяць тому

    Let's go nigma! for the highlights and fans and views good time to be a fan

  • @kungfukenny9300
    @kungfukenny9300 Місяць тому

    Es carry is so hype.

  • @thetrashman5258
    @thetrashman5258 Місяць тому

    24:22
    OmaR not AMMAR

  • @rosemary1346
    @rosemary1346 Місяць тому

    Watching nigma in game 1 be like watching my 2k MMR game replay with my party 😢😂

  • @berrish99
    @berrish99 Місяць тому

    GH's phoenix is 🔥

  • @HasiburRahim
    @HasiburRahim Місяць тому

    my bois gh sumail and miracle still got it

  • @gofreefly63
    @gofreefly63 Місяць тому

    This patch nigma buff hero poll. Hope watch miracle in final.

    • @yunico2319
      @yunico2319 Місяць тому

      which hero?what buff?

    • @yunico2319
      @yunico2319 Місяць тому

      which hero?what buff?

  • @arcanepersona1676
    @arcanepersona1676 Місяць тому

    26:28 insania using clock shard like a drunken fool 😂

  • @goldiluckx
    @goldiluckx Місяць тому

    we are back nigma!

  • @Refraction2319
    @Refraction2319 Місяць тому

    Mickee stop 5 of them from hitting the throne 😂😂😂

  • @Chae_driatic
    @Chae_driatic Місяць тому

    Old liquid VS new liquid

  • @ricardoiiicanlas1491
    @ricardoiiicanlas1491 Місяць тому

    No game 3?

  • @Dongyuuu
    @Dongyuuu Місяць тому

    Nigma always plays alone, support doesn't stick to carries

  • @Unkown0002
    @Unkown0002 Місяць тому

    Nigma showed Liquid who is the really Liquid. TI13 winner is just lucky as Nigma was not there

  • @Pacifik19
    @Pacifik19 Місяць тому

    Can’t wait to see Falcons crush Nigma 🤗

  • @khylencc7969
    @khylencc7969 Місяць тому

    did kuro retire?

  • @asmodeux7040
    @asmodeux7040 Місяць тому

    *Nigma hyping us up! Soon Kuro will DISAPPOINT US AGAIN.*

  • @yaneuaprillia
    @yaneuaprillia Місяць тому

    N1 strategy bro didint expect pos 4 centa

  • @dancruz8714
    @dancruz8714 Місяць тому

    Kudos to the announcers for making Nigma look good, hopefully they make some changes soon. (Remove kuro) and make a better roster.

  • @mr.G1F
    @mr.G1F Місяць тому +2

    Nigma can easily 2-0 their opponents if they let Gh play pos4 and find a good pos5 player.. win or lose that omar has always zero impact in every game they should let gh play pos4

    • @jhdivina
      @jhdivina Місяць тому +1

      his lion play is pretty good though.

    • @rifqimfauzan6809
      @rifqimfauzan6809 Місяць тому +1

      oh we blaming Omar now? gh pos 4 era is over man his hero pool are better on pos 5 now. Back in Snow Ruyi tournament gh also play pos 5 and its better that way, what Nigma lacking is always good pos 3, they have ATF before but he play pos 1 instead of 3 that a waste

  • @elvispresley8113
    @elvispresley8113 Місяць тому +2

    Even omar played better offlaner hero than Noob😅

  • @Steve-Yew
    @Steve-Yew Місяць тому

    issit liquid and beastcoast out?both them are bottom 2, there are no meaning to compete today?

  • @aizzamyusuf
    @aizzamyusuf Місяць тому

    wp both team

  • @mihaib7506
    @mihaib7506 Місяць тому

    Game 3?

  • @phiel7462
    @phiel7462 Місяць тому

    Nigma need to improve their mid to late game , they always throwing when mid game came .. But looks good Nigma !

  • @oc1274
    @oc1274 Місяць тому

    Es carry nice🎉🎉

  • @mustafasalman5957
    @mustafasalman5957 Місяць тому

    Bro that last pick dazzle...u can see liquids faces..they knew it would be a fucking problem

  • @mashpit3221
    @mashpit3221 Місяць тому

    Kuro coach is getting better. lfggggg

  • @arvinryancabela7865
    @arvinryancabela7865 Місяць тому

    Nigma si back ..
    They have a chemistry . Thats the only problem to nigma in early they have no chemistry . But now . Nigma is scary

  • @oNeHanDGuN
    @oNeHanDGuN Місяць тому +1

    Nigma forgot how to win 2-0..tomorrow will be another draw..but it's ok still qualify to next round tho lol

  • @curious_ember
    @curious_ember Місяць тому

    kuro was indeed the issue 🤭🤭🤭

  • @gamdanyunizar7849
    @gamdanyunizar7849 Місяць тому

    No kuro no cry

  • @starlightmiach7127
    @starlightmiach7127 Місяць тому

    Nigma looks like tier 2

  • @NelsonGamora-t7d
    @NelsonGamora-t7d Місяць тому

    miracle god

  • @axcel_riki
    @axcel_riki Місяць тому

    Old school DOTA is back.... 😂

  • @tokyostreet2326
    @tokyostreet2326 Місяць тому

    The key for successes in nigma is kuroky is not playing and noob as a former mid very versatile

    • @zzogyo
      @zzogyo Місяць тому

      bro ur grammar bro

  • @yowyowyow8652
    @yowyowyow8652 Місяць тому

    Nigma match is always top views in dota if you compared to other teams nigma match have more views compared to others

  • @factsandmotivational16
    @factsandmotivational16 Місяць тому

    No!ob proves that's why he chooses that name. lmao

  • @makradonakal
    @makradonakal Місяць тому

    ECHO SLAMMA JAMMA !!!!!

  • @mrpoks4282
    @mrpoks4282 Місяць тому

    NIGMA winning is = dota community are happy

  • @luishpersegona
    @luishpersegona Місяць тому

    In Nigma, they unlearn how to pick heroes.
    Curse of this organization...

  • @Trail-talks
    @Trail-talks Місяць тому

    Team solid 1k

  • @aronmartinez1008
    @aronmartinez1008 Місяць тому

    nigma is back!

  • @HoKaung
    @HoKaung Місяць тому

    This Ti for Nigam

  • @star_goofie
    @star_goofie Місяць тому

    Every nigma player had a highlight in this series.. so fun to watch...

  • @onaelz
    @onaelz Місяць тому +2

    NIGMA VIEW ↑

  • @jenpolsumatchaya
    @jenpolsumatchaya Місяць тому +4

    no hope with out 33

  • @Alya200I
    @Alya200I Місяць тому

    wth es carry? 😮

  • @thangnguyenvan8391
    @thangnguyenvan8391 Місяць тому

    Please Sumail: play safe. Try to farm more dont rush to go into the fight. Someone pl tell him what i said.

  • @MartinK-q8v
    @MartinK-q8v Місяць тому

    I want m1nd control back