That's fine. It's hard to accept things that are different from what we're used to. But whether we, who are familiar with the game, personally liked the commentary or not doesn't really matter, imo, because the most important variable was a large chunk of the stream audience who had absolutely no idea what competitive Melee is and I think Mr. Chen's elementary analyses of the matches was optimal in getting those new viewers up to speed. It's always about the viewers!
there's enough time to do the suicide dair on reaction against the firefox at that moment, pp just doesnt do that very often and prob wanted to do a safe edgeguard
Indeed, these would have been exponentially more hype if prog got to choose his co-commentator, but for the other communities a compromise had to be made, i speculate
He was learning as he went. He fixed his mistakes by picking up on what prog was saying. Sure, we call them "lasers" and he says "gunshots" but literally anyone would relate the two as the same thing from what they see. I don't hate having an old school FGC player and prominent current commentator to cast Melee. Considering he didn't know anything at all about competitive smash in-depth until like a few weeks before this, he did very well with the help of prog.
I love James Chen but it's painfully noticeable that he doesn't understand or know much about smash . He didn't know the stage names , the terminology , the moves . He knew some stuff , but it was obvious that he was just trying to use general terms that applied to the situation
AcydRayne666 he didn’t. If you slowdown the match at this moment you will see that falco gets out of tumble in the frame before the upsmash hits meaning pp pressed jump.
I suppose he deserves more credit than what i have given him. I do appreciate him taking the time to study up on the melee metagame. Perhaps i am just to used the regular melee commentators that, any new commentary sits weird with me. That and i still just dont like james chens voice, sorry just imo.
I believe you are confused with the concept of close...that word means that something almost happened. Mango was over 100% on his last stock when he won, that is called a close match.
Gabe Simmons WTF are you talking about. Last time PPMD and Mango faced each other was at MLG Anaheim 2014, and Mango *won*. PPMD's last tournament was Apex 2015 however, but he didn't even face Mango.
lol, i never said it was easy, i was just pointing out how shitty of a character Falco is if u take away his shine combos. Mango got shined like less than 5 times game 1
Seriously though, how come in gaming tournaments they never just refer to the competitors by their real names? Can't really take Dr. Peepee seriously. lol
How disrespectful. For how little he knew of the games, its mechanics and terminology prior to the donation drive, Mr. Chen was able to commentate well enough for a stream audience mostly unfamiliar with competitive Smash, which shows how much he prepared for this event. Plus, having James Chen commentating Melee is like one of the greatest honors Melee's ever been given in the FGC. Besides... well, being at Evo of course. Also, I personally found his commentary to be just fine. No hate here.
You can tell the one anouncer with the deeper voice knows what he's talking about much more.
That's prog, one of the oldest and best melee announcers
sometimes I think prog forgets how to get words out of his mouth
That's fine. It's hard to accept things that are different from what we're used to. But whether we, who are familiar with the game, personally liked the commentary or not doesn't really matter, imo, because the most important variable was a large chunk of the stream audience who had absolutely no idea what competitive Melee is and I think Mr. Chen's elementary analyses of the matches was optimal in getting those new viewers up to speed. It's always about the viewers!
why no down air at 7:11 by pp?????
I wish this was 3/5 :(
there's enough time to do the suicide dair on reaction against the firefox at that moment, pp just doesnt do that very often and prob wanted to do a safe edgeguard
How did Mango know at the end that PP had no jump?
When you double jump concentrical rings briefly appear below your characters. It is difficult to notice though.
He didn't have to grabbing the ledge is good despite whether pp had a jump or not
Indeed, these would have been exponentially more hype if prog got to choose his co-commentator, but for the other communities a compromise had to be made, i speculate
Man, such a close last match... Good stuff, PPMD!
dr pp really choked on that last stock
He was learning as he went. He fixed his mistakes by picking up on what prog was saying. Sure, we call them "lasers" and he says "gunshots" but literally anyone would relate the two as the same thing from what they see. I don't hate having an old school FGC player and prominent current commentator to cast Melee. Considering he didn't know anything at all about competitive smash in-depth until like a few weeks before this, he did very well with the help of prog.
close! wish there could have been another round
mango said himself that Falco cant win on isolated hits, and game 1 was a exemplification of that statement.
I love James Chen but it's painfully noticeable that he doesn't understand or know much about smash . He didn't know the stage names , the terminology , the moves . He knew some stuff , but it was obvious that he was just trying to use general terms that applied to the situation
Oh man.... I hope he reads this. You're totally right lol >_>
but none of that happened did it? so it was not close...as I implied
epic fistbump at the beginning
2-0 isn't close for a match, >100% on last stock of a single game is close. Match was not close. I'm not confused. I'm right
lawdy 3 years is a long time
a real stock of champions on that last stock game 2
It's ok PPMD, jut wait for Apex 2014...oooh boy...
mango has figured out the anti-everything game
No suicide dair on firefox that last stock??? Peepee could've had game 3
His commentary is better than your commentary on his commentary
You're right, he could have.. damn
he was a good, hype commentator for the n00bs that don't completely understand the game
james chen's commentary is cringeworthy
"Just like those gunshots!" what... gunshots?
Why is he commentating on SSBM in the first place? He's one of the Street Fighter folks.
Yessss
dr peepee with the great gunshots
Everything aside, this was a good match. Good stuff from both sides.
pp had a jump he didn't use on that last stock, right side of fountain.
AcydRayne666 he didn’t. If you slowdown the match at this moment you will see that falco gets out of tumble in the frame before the upsmash hits meaning pp pressed jump.
he jumped into the reverse upsmash, so he lost his second jump.
mango has figured out the anti-falco game: dont get shined. just look at first match lol
The first move pp does is like a lagless laser without hopping, wtf?
He did hop it is just that he pressed 'b' late. Its a lot harder to time because its really easy to get a blank shot.
okay, thanks.
mango went so close to neo its insane
hmm...mango shield drops now 4:21. Just never stops adding layers to his game
I suppose he deserves more credit than what i have given him. I do appreciate him taking the time to study up on the melee metagame. Perhaps i am just to used the regular melee commentators that, any new commentary sits weird with me. That and i still just dont like james chens voice, sorry just imo.
You obviously have not seen a good kirby ditto.
i object. a motivated mango is not vergil with swords. a motivated mango actually has skill.
Winner bracket Mango is a traveshamockery!
if he woulda went for that and mango woulda side B'd instead of up B'd, then pee would've been fucked. he couldnt risk his last stock on that
Good kirby ditto you say? interesting
They both wipe their noses almost every time they lose a stock
I believe you are confused with the concept of close...that word means that something almost happened. Mango was over 100% on his last stock when he won, that is called a close match.
I wonder how they picked james chen to comment in the finals, literally any of the other commentators would have been better.
dr pp become so strong but mango is just too great
lets de play ehm, you know this is 2013, right?
Gabe Simmons WTF are you talking about. Last time PPMD and Mango faced each other was at MLG Anaheim 2014, and Mango *won*. PPMD's last tournament was Apex 2015 however, but he didn't even face Mango.
GUNSHOTS LOL
lol, i never said it was easy, i was just pointing out how shitty of a character Falco is if u take away his shine combos. Mango got shined like less than 5 times game 1
ultrachen is annoying to listen too when it comes to commentating smash
he says it in talk
Seriously though, how come in gaming tournaments they never just refer to the competitors by their real names? Can't really take Dr. Peepee seriously. lol
At least it's not Skisonic.
lol that's far easier said than done
This is the real mango. kings of cali mango was a sham mango.
that would be weird
Lol that other commentator.
exept the armada in his prime game
How disrespectful. For how little he knew of the games, its mechanics and terminology prior to the donation drive, Mr. Chen was able to commentate well enough for a stream audience mostly unfamiliar with competitive Smash, which shows how much he prepared for this event. Plus, having James Chen commentating Melee is like one of the greatest honors Melee's ever been given in the FGC. Besides... well, being at Evo of course.
Also, I personally found his commentary to be just fine. No hate here.
pp almost had it in the last game
Your sooooooo goood mango
mango respecting dr. pp
lmao peepee was mad af
I think he meant to but fucked up
toward b's
0p
Mango's good. Dr. peepee still better. bext fox vs best falco unfortunately fox wins. Man I am kind of mad. lame mango laame
damn mango so fancy