'I was never a spy': SA President Ramaphosa responds to sell out accusations
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- South African President Cyril Ramaphosa has refuted the allegations levelled against him by both opposition leaders Mosiuoa Lekota of Cope and EFF's Julius Malema that he was a sell-out during the apartheid era.
The President's body language speaks volumes. Study it and make your own analysis....even the quivering voice.... tells it all
Mxm sis
@@ludakaakhona2253 it touches you that deep hey!!! 😍
@@dollyk263 S/he is probably one of those paid media influencers
" I refused. " but he nods his head as he says it...
kkk
He lies so well...father a police man...He speaks from a well memorized story.Spy
True
Father was a police man, meaning he knew law and maybe his father pulled strings for him to be released, since well there was no solid evidence that he is holding evidence/ knows things
he just tells you what his handlers want you to know
The fact that he's reading his life story should mean something
where do u see that.
@@Man-P He has been reading though…but maybe it’s to recall the names. But I’m unsure about one thing…the guy in Silverton Police station got killed, the guy he was found with in Soweto was also killed!
@@Mntungwa77 how funny when Zuma spoke of history in the same parliament never referred to a book
Zuma interchanges between Zulu and English... lot more Zulu than English. This man is speaking English... polished English.
@@lifewithsilindilengcobo4620 here he was reading not speaking. Watch Zuma speaking about his history not referencing one bit, from arrival of whites to all the developments
Wait, Cyril says he was being prosecuted at the same time as Lekota...they asked him to turn a state witness, he said no, but then he went home and Lekota went to Robben Island. How? What was the grounds for his release?
That's the question ❓
The answer is in plain view
He is not telling the truth
YOU ARE TAKING THE TRUTH ❤❤❤💪this guy is a traitor
Good question.
You refused and you were released, who has ever refused and released and all these time you get arrested and released but the others end up dead or arrested for many years
Good question. Who gets released and then becomes rich? Many things don't add up here
Yeses😢 taking all of us for kindergatten😮
We will never get an answer from him but his statement SAID IT ALL 😂, You can't be let go just like that.
My point exacly . People were killed for refusing to cooperate . Bikos n them . Now yena he politely refused n tgey let him go . Jesus christ.
I wonder how old you are. Many people during those days were arrested and released, even those who were active in the struggle and the Special Branch would spread lies about them. The aim was to create divisions within the struggle so that it collapses. Many were killed based on false accusations.
Daddy a policeman during the apartheid era?..makes me wonder.
Red flag right there.
I’m telling u bro
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I dont believe this story too.
Jacob Zuma's father was a policeman as well. In fact a lot of these leaders had fathers who were in someway working for the state. Does it make them spies?
Others were activists whilst wearing the police uniform. So being in the police doesn't matter.
There are so many people were police during appatheit government
I just lost all hope...Ramaphosa must just give us a break and step down...
I doubt he will do that
Dear Andanega, he is already down, together with all his allies. Time to move forward, united as one nation under the guidance of our Creator. Keep the faith! Regards, Alinda Nieuwoudt. Proudly South African.
His answer on state capture eyi I am scared
I agree totally, I wish Ramaposa would resign because he is a born again liar
I had hope in 2018 but not now at all
This guy was trained to manipulate people
Hes a witch
Higher grade stuff
But people what was he suppose to do, faced with the vicious brutal regime .
@@revothomas9343 then he must shut up instead of acting like he was good person
A sell out 2 the Black nation this 1 a good munipulator a very greedy corrupt president & very selfish to lose R5 to poor in his pocket 😂😂😂
Lekota looks disgusted by The President's lies🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣
He was taking notes to contradict him, then decided to ignore him😅
No, he looks defeated by his timid attempt to paint the president as a spy. Remember, it was Lekota who nominated Cyril as the Secretary General of the ANC in 1991,and the overwhelming number of votes Cyril received against Zuma is a vindication of Cyril 's impeccably credentials as a leader beyond reproach. This new narrative that seeks to cast doubts on his personality is a ploy to neutralize his vigor to fight the level of corruption in our country. The Guptas messed with tacit approval of your beloved RET, what are you doing about it?
Umdayisi lo, uRamaphosa
😂😂
It's funny how people was getting arrested and killed by police.... But not rama
impimpi le
So he was supposed to be arrested and killed to be not a spy? Its funny how people perceive the past as if they would have done better.
@@ludakaakhona2253 all Fighters were in exile while he was dining with whites, during apartheid you were a spie and still is, check his CR doners
@@ludakaakhona2253 all Fighters were in exile while he was dining with whites, during apartheid you were a spie and still is, check his CR doners
@deneo adeola. Ok now i see. Seems like you were also an informant since you saw him dinning with the whites or perheps you have a concrete evidence to support your argument. And seems like he was the only black who did not go into exile. Is that what you mean?
What happened between 1976 and 1985,why you were never sentenced
You can ask that again
Ramaphosa was a unionist fighting for the rights of the workers him together with Mantashe. He was arrested too.
It's funny how others were tortured but you were let go and given an opportunity to think about it.
Ramaphosa is lying plz don't listen to him.
You obviously don't know Amabhulu brains. That happened to a lot of us in the struggle
The other funny thing is that he remembered each and every detail at this age.... This guy has kept his spy notes. I doubt apartheid police could've let him go for free, he returned them a favor.
This guy is working the other side.
I do not believe this man; his eyes tell another story
Ramaphosa is a liar
@@gerritgeibeb8554 Yes
His a Beast. Devil himself
Did u cee his face on saturday
Stuttering
"I did not have sexual relations with tha woman, I repeat..I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN" Bill Clinton 🤣🤣🤣
You might have seen Billy C pick up line is this man. Lol
"Your a skelem from soweto" aka "You're a spy from Soweto", even they saw his tendencies
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Dear Charlice, correct, we all know the difference between a duck and a bull terrier. Bull terriers do not let go. Regards, Alinda Nieuwoudt. Proudly South African.
Succinct!
Yebo‼️
Ndlozi, Malema and Shivhambu are shaking their heads like "This guy is taking us for a ride"
Hi Craig, really I appreciate that you are the history keeper of Ramaphosa and the Mandela's, If as you say he worked for the Opperheimer dynasty and became rich, it was good for him because he did not sweat for nothing. If Mandela got a house from them I think that's great. There are so many lies going around that I do not care searching for the truth. How people make themselves rich is not my Indaba. I really think that you are sore because you not in his shoes, and like so many who failed to make their, always seek something to tarnish those who succeeded. I don't know whether you dislike the man because he is of Venda origin and hate his guts for daring to become President. Maybe you should dwell on how the others got their millions without having lifted a finger on a job, but at least this one worked for the Oppenheimer dynasty who did not pay him peanuts, ending up being a billionaire. Can you say the same for others?
@@marulevideos1574 I'm not jealous of Ramaphosa and this has nothing to do with tribes. I dont know why many people they love playing a race or tribe card. I think having a moral ground is also important as a human being. We cant keep saying we are successful by stepping on other people to make it. This a problem I have with many black people. ANC was meant to fight for black to have the same economic rights as white people. And not to sell your own black people for your own selfish gain. He was a spy this guy, that's why he became a billionaire. As for me I wouldn't applaud anyone's success if they have achieved it by killing others and selling them to white people. That's not success.
Also look at his recent history, he gave orders to kill innocent people in Marikaana and children lost their parents because of this man. He sabotaged Eskom while Zuma was fighting load shedding, coz his masters wanted to continue using Eskom as their cash cow. There's nothing good about this man's leadership. Look what he is doing to us right now as a nation. Some of our family members lost jobs because he took the money from IMF and that money came with lot of conditions which includes strict lockdowns and many lost their jobs. They bring the virus here and then they sabotage our livelihood. Ramaphosa is probably one of Satan's agents. I've never seen a president who doesn't care about the citizens of his country like this guy. I real thought he was gonna do better because he is educated but he is just a puppet to his masters. He is a programmed robot
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Hahaha I can't wait to hear Malemas response
A spy ... A sellout ... A traitor
If his father was a Police officer, why are people surprised to see him being released unlike Lekota
During that six months Period of solitary confinement is when the got broken down and agreed to be a spy
The president of South Africa is trying his best to get the approval of Europeans. He is such a sad example of leadership. Why can't South Africans elect a strong president?
It’s not up to us
We only elect the party
The party (ANC) elected him
This is run in ANC Stellenbosch..... ANC IS THE ONLY CAPTURED ORGANISATION IN SA. THEY ALL Thieves.... This man is the king father' po g all Soweto thieves
@@sve5543 o o
When that lair came in to power he promised to take the land back, he still haven’t done nothing yet. Yes the great Nelson Mandela did sellout the South African people why the caucasians still run the economy and own most of the land.
Your exiled heros have rich families they the kak .i don't trust prisoners atleast he go money that he can loose if this country fails but useless prisoners don't care.
He never lift a finger for the liberation of this nation like his father
Aag shame, I feel sorry for you, seems you don't know South African history, my best advice is search the archives, beginning with the World and Daily mail newspapers
i guess he eat from a
menu in jail. stop telling your nonsemce over and over. you talk alot of B.S
I think you should read S.A. history particularly near 1994.
Like father
What r u talking about... after Mandela was taken out of prison, during those negotiations Ramaphosa was leading those negotiations. Mandela once even said "He would make a great president".... u need to read history books papa awazi lutho. He also dealt with so many issues in the 80's that u need to find urself. I can't type that much 🙄
You can’t convince me that your not sal out for me you’re big one salute from Guinea-Bissau 🇬🇼
So that’s why Ramaphosa is a millionaire.. he was clearly a spy..
I’m From Namibia, and I know a lot of people with these kind of same allegations but they are millionaires and they known for the fact that they were spies.. so Ramaphosa clearly lied
You have absolutely no idea what you are faffing on about with your baseless claims. Cyril left politics in the 90s to go be a business man. Your assertion that he is a millionaire and therefore was a spy could possibly mean you are not familiar with the history of SA politics. He is a lawyer by training. Cunning as well. I would like to propose that one of the reasons for his wealth is the political influence and pressure he had in a business setting.
Ramadoos is a billionaire and did not work for his money. He obtained his wealth via political connections and corruption. It is the ANC way.
@@PTJ_S ass.. puppet like Cyril.. I’m talking about him being a puppet.. Selling other people for money.
billionaire
Of course he was! because black people are not allowed to be rich, even the likes of Motsepe are also criticized by black poor people. Focus on your country issues.
Notice how the ANC ministers look angry and bored by the sugarcoated stories.
Lekota your look said it all Sir. I'm with you.
He told them they must keep their billions he is not going with them
TEARS ARE ROLLING IN ME WHERE I AM. DEEP SADNESS ,AND PAIN,DEEP SADNESS,AND PAIN!!
But why is my heart telling me that this man is a liar and must be true that he was a spy
There is no smoke without fire
Sellout, why is he reading his story and life experience
The faces of all the comrades who went to war, is full of disgust. This guy loves lying 🤥
This man needs to go! Seeing all the things that he has seen throughout the past. How can he be a president and do nothing for his people? Black Africa do not need people like him in office!! The proof is in the pudding and judging from what he has done so far, Africa does not need this man
And the MARICANA massacre!!
How can a MINE workers union leader get them killed or allow them killed like that ???
RAMAPHOSA MEH!!
this the slickest speech i have ever heard. this guy is a specialist in confusion and missed direction
What he said about Malema was strategic 😂
When a parents asks the child if they did something wrong & instead of answering yes or no, the child goes on about everything except what they are accused of. The parent interrupts: "my child did you sign a letter claiming Mr. Lakota put communist ideas into your little head, yes or no?"
All I saw was a man trying to evade the question while trying to associate himself with the Steve Bikos of this world. Oh & diverting the blame by blaming others of being MI6 agents. Classic case of my child giving me a very long explanation & informing on my other kid for whatever he did wrong, instead of answering a simple question, yes on no. SELL OUT!!!
Dude no plz man u embarrasinv urself... literally Ramaphosa is the last person u wanna attack. Do u know that after Mandela's release he led the negotiations during fall of Aparthied, mandela said once "ramaphosa would make a great president". Ppl just hate him... animfuni njee
@@sboneloxaba566 by noting that the he failed to address the matter he supposedly wanted to address
@@sboneloxaba566 Of freemason sell out mandela would say that because they the same sell outs
@@sboneloxaba566 who elected him for those negotiations ?
@@sboneloxaba566 yeah he is
No proof in the president's account. He is the only witness in this story. I also like how the police spoke to him so nicely(it shows they were cordial)
Did he get arrested? No
How can you read your own life story???🤔🤔🤔
Exactly
That look from Lekota !
The way the house is looking and listening to him😂😂😂😂😂😂😂they're all thinking Bullshit!!!
He can't lie this one
I would love to see Malema as the president of South Africa 🇿🇦, but the South African people is lost their would only vote ANC
a drum can not play itself.
Looking at this again I see even the his own people don't believe him.
Terrible that people think that CR was a sell out. The real sell out was Nelson Mandela
³b...ñuŕahmeď dawood bhatker very much like d .osoooooooģ good soweachx ç⁵ģhipkýb çhiplun skwajks very much skelmersdale from sometimes ango Americans numerous times 2 and Nelson nabnsiòinaccusatìin
But they're clapping hands for him mos🤷
His lying why did they release him and why doesnt he want to disclose the snitches name
A sellout never admits
It's easy to tag someone mybru , you know nothing
How do South Africans end up voting for ANC despite it's failures
@@bigsambigsam800 What do you know?
@@elvisiwot5215 there's no alternative it's either you vote for the racist DA or the corrupt ANC .
Shame, Terror Umjongele ukuxoka
Lekota knows the truth
Yeah, that he was bought to spread those accusations. He dismally failed in a lot of positions he held, that is he clings to politics, of which he is a terrible politician too. Check out the African history and ask yourself why most African exiles are in South Africa. People like Terror tell lies because they wouldn't be investigated and live the country with question marks. Immunity, CR has changed all that.
The last kick of a dying horse.
Yep
That is how a good spy would respond 😆
My question is how come other leaders where killed but some jailed others got wealthy
I wouldn't differentiate if your comment is out of ignorance, jealousy or pure ignorance. Everybody working in a factory has his or her ambitions or purpose . We as people have diverse fates, blessings, curses etc. Some have to work for others, though some own businesses they don't become rich, some die because of lack of vigilance, some die because of not following orders in a war situation or as a normal citizen ignore warnings of dangerous hotspots. Some simply die. There's a saying that " there's no hurry in South Africa " but some made hay while the Sun is shining, and others sat under the tree getting high on marijuana and nyaope. An employee who once worked for me, saw another business man, and remarked, " I was wiser than that guy at school, look at him now " He was busy digging while that other guy was driving past in his 4x4 following his truck. Suggestion when you get up in the morning pray for insight and wisdom so that you may know why.
@@marulevideos1574 the time when things happened is very important and what happened is very important. Let's not go into luck and generalizing but look at what level happened at what level and resources that time. If you were a leader of some sort and gave problems to the state. The state would want you down. Working hard for wealth is different from planning wealth with the wealthy.
@@timditse2961 hi I guess you are a human being with consciousness, self respect and dignity. I wrote the comments because I physically know what some people are capable of when they desperately want something. I know people who are in jail for crimes they didn't commit. I know of people who were killed by the mobs who never verified before the act. You will die just for passing by a crime scene, and become a scapegoat. Now Mosioua knew CR long before CR was elected President. Having had such valuable information, why did did he fail to bring forth this information. Why now? Terror as he is known was trying to score some points and the favour and support of the EFF. Terror was chief of the army, what stopped him then to arrest CR because he was in charge of the security of the country. Sometimes learn to read between the lines and see through them. A lot are in favour of JZ because he was a blindman leading the blind, a racist and a man with revenge in his heart, and will stop at nothing to destroy the lives of others. Terror knows it deep in his heart that he is not presidential material, as much as Juju. Digging dirt about others doesn't make you a righteous man nor does it make eligible for certain positions. There are those who have the last word. There are also those who think themselves leaders for life, JZ never thought he would be forced to step down. Mbeki never protested nor did he ask for an extended term, and never swore revenge, but JZ did all that. Listen, look decide, and avoid rumours. Water flows in different directions but never going uphill, and people who don't analyse the politicians words, and up like sheep following one another into a waterfall.
Notice how the white people defend him
@@marulevideos1574 Ramaphosa was a leader of mine workers while true heroes were suffering. He was making business deals while true heroes were being arrested. I would say you're the one ignorant here. The guy was raised by the Meneer Famìly. The same family that later sent him to fetch Mandela in prison. He is the one who gave white people access to Alleged Mandela and they gave Mandela a house in Houghton. Ramaphosa was their boy. Stellenbosch mafias they own Ramaphosa. Youre too ignorant. Billionaires are inventors of things. Ramaphosa sold out ANC in order to be rich
So He shy away from the important matter of being a sellout and focuses on workers union....Skelem
His father was a sell out as well. It runs in his family
Now where is this man??? The country is on fire
With everything that's going on right now I believe his still one
My brother ur rite he is destroying zuma now
Totally. She continue to show himself.
Lekota's look says it all
😂😂😂
I don't trust his words, I watch his actions.
Impimpi
Why would you, he's not Zulu.
@@The_Truth777 amashangane yimpimpi vele
@@umakoyaWildInk Nge nhlanhla akalona ishangane... uyivenda.
Lekota's face🤣speaks volume.
What he's saying does not make sense and if it does not make sense it's a lie...
Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me, and He who does not gather with Me SCATTERS.
What was he doing in the enemy camp killing his own people
He sold out
Amanga nje la.... Ngisho ingane encane iyabona mnxim.
Cha unamanga, mina angiboni
And what has this story got to do with 30 years of ANC ruin?
The look from Mr Likota at the end, seems not believing Mr Ramaphosa. 😂😂😂
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Even Malema is very impressed😂😂
How can you sleep after destroying Molope Bakeries?
that arrest at mankweng police station. Red flag. Security police: "its either you cooperate with them" or...........I did not do any of the things they want and I was released" APARTHEID ERA HERO
Was listening to that. It seems like that's where they got him. I don't believe him about choosing neither of given choices. How did he get rich just after apartheid Era which didn't support development of blacks.
Not once did he say 'I didn't write the letter to special forces'. So no record has been set straight here. As for his character, we know it: Marikana, corruption and state capture
Bring it on, but I don't think think you have facts to prove your speculation. So no facts, shut up.
Bring it on, but I don't think think you have facts to prove your speculation. So no facts, shut up.
@@marulevideos1574 the marikana documentary is on UA-cam, paid troll.
You can now add The #PhoenixMassacre
After listening to his speech, I conclude that Ramaphosa definitely sold out.
One biggest sign that a person was not born to lead is when you see him reading all his speeches. Real leaders speak from the heart
"Sometimes even the best actors do not stick to the script"
@@talesoleatsekatane6267well because they ain't leaders
This house soooo quite😂😂😂listening to Comrade CR's HISTORY 😂😂😂
How can we believe this ?
What a lier! This guy must be removed from our country.
Hot air. Bill Gates comes to mind.
That's exactly what a spy would say
lol ramaphosa is a lier why is he reading his responce to the sell out call??
"I was called alone aside..."I refused 😂...this guy
Liying coz we were not there
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a mn s he’s the only one that became a Billionaire.
There’s a video of him skinnering with DeKlerk, while walking behind Mandela using signs!
The frog has heated himself! Will boil soon.
We Need Unity in Our country!!! May the Almighty GOD Have Mercy on us. The Bal is now in Your Cord South Africa and you NEED WISDOM TO PLAY SUCCESSFULLY
K
Shame and disappointment, Ramaphosa is fighting with Zuma, he did not sees new political party supported by those disatisfy with Zuma's arrest, forget about members of ANC in grassroot levels
Guilty conscience speaks for itself
Once you mentioned your father was a policeman sergeant...that explains your selling out...keep the test my Presso.
Why would Ramaphosa read what happened on that day. He should have relied on his memory like Terror Lekota. It is a prepared response. The eyes tells no lies
His father was a police man...and he did not sell out
Fairy tales neh 😂😂
REPENT SOUTH AFRICA.
'Never been a spy never worked with the enemy' then how do u explain Marikana mine workers killings?
How do you explain the killing of the police and fellow mine workers by other miners
Spies don't admit to be spies
THE SONG SAYS " IT IS WELL"
This man is a spy
South Africa is still stuck in the past and not focusing on the future and development of South Africa.
So what are they clapping for.
We need to stand together as a nation always no matter what
Baningi esasibathembile kakhulu ababuye ejele sebesithengisile ababesami eqinisweni abanye badliwa inganono.
uphi u Chris?
First time that I saw this parliament listen carefully without any unnecessary interruption. Bravo!
I cannot comment on his speech, after 46 seconds I moved on. The people have voted them in, the voting out ain’t going to happen.
He was definitely a spy
Where did you get the to start your business empire Chief?
Bc3
G
Johan Rupert puppet 😂
The man just fooled everyone those no can just be released just as did as he said
Horrible things happened to people who were arrested and nothing happened to u and what's worse U were released
You all who commented here must learn politics
Name 1 politics who never lied
U are Zulu right 🤔👀
Politician*
In a nutshell you are saying we must believe that blatant lie? please don't underestimate our intelligence.
Im grateful to hear our president clarifying the issues. Beloved Baba Mandela rest in peace and thank you.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Engage meaningfully.
The President does not know
who he is talking too.
Today he proves that he was spy
IT IS WELL WITH MY SOUL
Wow president you are speaking ❤😢
Thanks Presindet for setting the record straight, but we're washing you and we hope and pray you be good to us, prove them wrong let's see 👀
You want to tell me that you believe that narrative. Do you know the apartheid regime? Do you know how brutal they were? They wouldn't spare you if you don't cooperate.
People like you who never experienced the brutality of the apartheid regime believe everything.
Indeed a sellout
Even the judge behind him is so embarrassed to be on the same video clip with him!...I always just have a bad hunch if a lie comes into my ear!...I just feel this is NOT TRUE