People always give sheep a bad reputation, following each other, mindlessly eating grass..They Never talk about the fact that All sheep are cult leaders.
Can I just say, Ghost Trick had a good twist to the whole "Who am I?" question. Hell, the entire game is a good twist, I genuinely recommend people play it. It can be annoying at times, but the story is worth it.
i always end up getting a little frustrated when i try to explain that people need to play Ghost Trick; it's amazing in a way that you just have to experience for yourself, even if that means getting a little stuck on a few obtuse puzzles along the way
Manual Samuel fits the bill. Samuel dies at the beginning of the game and is able to get back into his body, which the player has to control manually (including breathing).
Actually, you can find a randomly generated relative or acquaintance of his ingame, as in one playthrough I had his boyfriend as part of my DedSec collective, yet in another I had his personal “lady of the night” join up instead.
I remember encountering a glitch where i got dalton as a full party member... with what sounding like a text to speech voice. It was really fucking weird lol.
I heard "died and then brought back to life" and immediately thought of Cult of the Lamb. I mean, you literally start the game being forced to walk to your own execution, before making a deal with an estranged God and being brought back to life. I was a little sad to not see it on this list... :(
So glad to have you back in the person. I can watch most of your videos, but I am hearing impaired. It helps me to see someone react beyond the bad subtitles I get. Ellen is the absolute fucking boss for HoH people. She's so expressive that even if I didn't have inputs I would get what she is saying. Her geeky expressiveness is actually an awesome thing to her disabled fans. I can just watch an Outside Xtra video, with no inputs, and just watching her face, reactions, and emotions pretty much tells me all I need to know. She's got got a fucking gift for that.
I know it’s not part of this list but I just started Kingdoms of Amalur the other day because of Ellen’s praise for the game and I gotta say it’s really good. Also even though the character doesn’t actually die at the beginning of the game, they start off dead. Not sure if there’s already a list of games where the character starts off dead but Amalur could definitely be on that one.
I've just started playing the latest Dark Pictures Anthology game, The Devil in Me, which kicks off with you controlling a newlywed couple booking in to the soon-to-be-infamous "Murder Hotel". Hey, guess what happens! Interestingly, one of the in-game menus seems to suggest they could get killed in different ways depending on what you do. For the record, in my playthrough Marie got slashed with a razor while in the bath, Jeff got caught in a gas room and suffocated, and Marie saw this happen while she was bleeding to death. Then I got a trophy for it. Video games!
It's not technically "the start of the game" anymore because of a new tutorial and the option to do quests in any order, but the main quest of Elder Scrolls Online definitely counts. You are captured by the Black Worm Cult, sacrificed by Mannimarco, who rips out your soul for Molag Bal, and wake up in the Oblivion realm of Coldharbour as a Soul-Shriven prisoner. Soul-shriven are basically zombies, pale imitations of the people whose souls have been stolen by Molag Bal, and made out of Chaotic Creatia and a Vesitge, the same stuff as Daedra that let them reform, so Molag Bal can torture and kill them repeatedly. But you have an extra Anuic aspect (lore speak for "being a protagonist") so your new body is a perfect recreation, and your mind is fully intact. So basically all Mannimarco and Molag Bal did was give you a new body that can't be permanently killed.
Murdered soul suspect has the main character literally fall to their death in the opening and goes through all the stages of grief in quips once you gain control again
@@kjm4721Think it was if I remember right. The box for it literally spoils that you die before you even get to get your head round what’s going on. But it’s still a surprise how quick you’re ground meat
One of my favourite things about Xenoblade 2 are the variety of accents and how they're all consistent depending on where they're from. The Gormottis have Welsh accents, Urayans have Australian accents and Ardainians have Scottish accents, to give a few examples.
And then of course, the Americans... well, it's a bit of a spoiler to say what that category is. I got spoiled by it, it was the only thing I didn't manage to avoid.
Lol, I first played the game with the English dub, and after completing it i tried watching some of the cutscenes with the Japanese dub, and...well... Lets just say Nia is a million times better with the Welsh accent the the high pitched anime one...
I agree with Ellen, there should be more Welsh accents in games! Also I can't remember the previous version of this list, but I'm going to assume we covered Final Fantasy XII and The World Ends With You already.
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 British and English are separate things. English would be Englandonly, but Britain/British efers to England, Wales and Scotland. These three together make up 'Great Britain'. For added confusion, UK (United Kingdom) consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It's all very needlessly complicated lol.
Pillars of Eternity II comes to mind. You went through the entire first game with your life (mostly) in tact only to start the second and immediately get bodied in the opening cut scene by the giant statue that was lurking beneath your home. You're only able to actually go on heroing because the goddess of death decides that you're kind of useful.
I'm from Northern Ireland and for Assassin's Creed 3 & 4 they had a NI actor do lines for the guards, it was so funny hearing such a specific local accent while I was hiding in hay bales lol
I am SO glad to see Ghost Trick on here! XD Like they say, you LITERALLY start the game dead as a door nail in a super undignified position, and Ray is SO effing sassy with you. It's great. XD But the more you play, the better it gets! It's SO good! (Except for helping Jowd escape from prison. Absolute nightmare fuel that scene. XD)
It’s not as iconic a game as others, but the intro for Battlefield One stood out to me for being more than a standard scripted death sequence. It gives a unique view on the effects of war.
FFXII should absolutely be on this list. U start off playing as Reks, a young knight who is fighting for both his country & his younger brother Vaan. However, not long into the game he is killed & u get stick playing as his younger brother Vaan
@JN-so6wt He gets kind of better at a little over halfway to the last 3rd of the game but at that point since it's a FF game you've spend probably 40+ hours listening to him whining & saying how much he wants to be a pirate
Another good example is 1996’s Blood Omen Legacy of Kain. Having been refused a pint at the local, you wander outside only to hear "There he is, get him!" At which point its a case of how long can you last with no powers and a limited combo, before being stabbed right through the heart. And then the game starts.
@NickW855 while true it is another death there, as he's reduced to a spirit and needs to rebuild himself a new body to interact with the physical world after being cast into the Abyss
Context about the driving test joke for my fellow Americans: British driving tests are notoriously difficult. Passing after 5 attempts is not uncommon.
This was hardly an invitation to crap on US driver safety. US and UK driving present very different challenges, not the least of which is number of cars on the road.
Unrelated, but thanks Ellen for the tip on the LOTR Conqueror Challenge. I got a group of friends to join, and I just made it to Bree today! Once we all catch up, I think we'll do the 680 mi to Moria as a fellowship. It really is good motivation to keep active. I hope you're progressing nicely yourself!
Well, technically, my character died before the tutorial started in Torment: Tides of Numenera. The game starts the character plummeting from the skies, and you can either try fall aerodynamically or spread your arms. I tried what would happen if I tried to fall aerodynamically.
Hilariously enough, ‘the Protagonist dying early on’ is a running joke in the Xenoblade series. 2 is just the only one where it occurs during the game itself. Spoilers below! In Xenoblade Chronicles, Shulk was killed as a child, and his body was possessed by local evil deity Zanza. In Xenoblade Chronicles X, Cross’ Mimeosome (Remote controlled robot body) was awoken after the servers holding his mind shut down. This is also implied to be the reason for his amnesia. In Xenoblade Chronicles 3, every member of Agnus and Keves (the two warring nations that control most of Aionios), including your entire party, have been constantly killed and brought back to life for however long Aionios has existed (which is at least 1500 years)
I eventually got into _Watch Dogs: Legion_ with its no-main-character gimmick, but I gotta say, if they'd actually done the game entirely with Dalton Wolfe or someone like him, that would not actually have sucked. On the other hand, as tutorial missions go, it was pretty bad-ass.
I finished WD 3, but I never got into the switching character mechanic. Had I played as Wolfe for the whole game it would have been interesting, and that intro missions was great, so much hope for the game after that. perhaps if they had been revolving side-kicks it might have been better :)
If this one was never mentioned,Bioshock 2: Delta the Alpha Series of Big Daddies you play as gets killed at the start of the game,then is brought back to life years later by Eleanor Lamb through connections with the new Little Sisters
@@waterinmyotter6245 Huh. That's interesting. Maybe it's because the character never actually dies? I never actually played the game, so I don't remember, but I think it was more of a near death experience rather than actually dying and coming back to life Unlike with Mass Effect, where you die and get rebuilt from the ground up
Played Disco Elysium. Tried to remove my tie from the still working ceiling fan. Overexerted myself, had a stroke, died. Total time played: 30 seconds. The rpg introscreen took me longer than I actually managed to play, on my first try. My second try ended with my character taking physical damage from sitting in a shitty chair, emotional damage because I was taunted with my misplaced gun, and finally the poor man gave up to go drink himself to death under a bridge somewhere. Good times.
Paper Mario 1 kicks off with an unwinnable fight against Bowser where after a few turns, Bowser flexes on you and uses the Star Rod to make himself invincible and scorch Mario to death.
Her bad jokes are hit and miss depending on your preferences but definitely love her face when she knows it’s a bad joke but couldn’t resist anyway since Luke reacts to them usually 😅
dead space extraction's death at the beginning was however an interesting look into what happens to the non-immune. Since Isaac is half immune as are a few others in the series and a few are fully fledged immune like that fiance lexine of that poor dead guy you play as.
There's Fallout: New Vegas where you're shot in the head and are likely dead while Doc is operating on you. There's Knights Of The Old Republic where you(Revan) technically die before waking up with a new identity. Then there's Fable 2 where you die and are brought back by some old witch that then teaches you how to fight and stuff
I know the first Legacy of Kain game was mentioned 7 years ago, but the one that stuck with me was Soul Reaver. Kain rips off your brand new wings (which no other vampire has grown) and toss you to your death. You then come back looking much less attractive and as a wraith.
Final Fantasy II. You start the game in an unwinnable fight where Firion and party are killed but a little later you wake up in the Rebel Army's headquarters in Altair.
How about Ethan Winters in Resident Evil 7? Okay, so this isn't revealed until Resident Evil 8 when Ethan gets his heart removed by Miranda right before the final battle, but it counts right?
@@jaycee8433 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fox News. The conspiracies are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Christian nationalism most of the dog whistles will go over a typical viewer's head.
@@jaycee8433 I'm not being hard on Andy. I'm in the Netherlands. From the outside looking in, watching (and tolerating) Fox News for any length of time is an exercise in suspension of disbelief. To be fair, I haven't really bothered since Tucker Carlson got fired, but _boy_ was that man hard to watch with any amount of critical thinking still engaged.
@@guuspot923 Please don't use the term critical thinking when you don't actually practice it. People pretending to be able to participate intellectual discourse is already a pain in a** as it is - they haven't even begun to read through the rules of logic, and most importantly, any list of logical fallacies (of which they are guilty of many).
“People can live without a sole right?” Andy my good man, i have not worn a complete shoe since ‘92… Oh wait, he meant SOUL. And i am only 28… really dropped the ball there 😅
I’ll be honest, the opening guy in “Watch Dogs Legion” would’ve been much cooler to play as instead of what they did with the multiple characters you could recruit. A James Bond adjacent hacker would actually be cool to play and could be a nice compromise between the styles of the first and second games tone.
I think the BBC is an even bigger joke, but Brits can't say anything against the Govt run News Media. Attacking Fox is a low hanging fruit, too. You must be easily amused... and pretty naive.
I think what make a the Watch_dogs one even more effective is how much promotion there was of the game with a spy character in the forefront that matched Dalton perfectly.
Well that's not really part of the plot. You could make an argument for the Shrine of Resurrection counting as being revived in early game, but the actual dying part you only see way later on.
Dantes Inferno You see a cutscene, you play a basic movement tutorial. Immediately after the tutorial, Dante is stabbed in the back and killed and has a boss fight with the Grim Reaper to top it off. He fights off him off and takes his scythe, but the fact that Death literally appeared before him and fought him off implies Dante died at the start of the game and has been undead the entire time.
The original Blood Omen had a similar start to Bloodlines, but you actually play as the nobleman Kain for a minute or two before assassins come to kill you. Also, Murdered: Soul Suspect had a similar opening to Ghost Trick; As a detective, you are killed by the suspect you're pursuing and spend the rest of the game as a ghost trying to solve your death, and the original crime. That was surprisingly actually surprisingly good, more story than action, but I thought it was fun.
Stubbs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse starts with you getting killed and buried and a bit later a city being build on your grave... and then you get back up, go get revenge and even find love... its a weird game.
@@oxfanblink4115 You are not in control in the Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines either as it happens in the starting cutscene as well, so if that was on the list then why not this?
Shadow of Destiny (also known as Shadow of Memories outside of North America) is my favorite example of this! You're playing as Eike Kusch, and in the prologue he gets stabbed to death in a back alley. This sets the entire game in motion, as you're brought to an odd little side-dimension and given the opportunity to travel back in time and figure out how to prevent your own murder by a mysterious person called Homunculus. Except then you're murdered again in a different way, so the entire game becomes an attempt to figure out who's so intent on killing you, using a lot of time travel, including traveling back to 1980, 1902, and even the early 1580s. Absolutely love that trippy game.
Note: The Dragon isn't a God. He's basically the Hand of God and the first major test for the Arisen. When they're gone, if the Arisen fails at any point after that, THEY become the Dragon. Grigori, after failing his quest, WANTS to see the new Arisen succeed, but not without trial.
The game is quite recent but, in Cult of the Lamb, your poor little lamb is directly murdered by some unfriendly cult leader just to be brought back to life by another cult leader
I can't believe you've done this video prompt twice now without mentioning Shadow of Mordor. The entire plot revolves around the fact that you died in the beginning. The series may be almost completely non canonical to the Tolkien legendarium, especially in the second one, but god damn are they fun games. Plus I'm always a fan of video games where your character dying is actually real and you don't just roll back time to your last save. If you make a part three please, give the Shadow games a shoutout
I sometimes make it a challenge to kill the character right at the start of a playthrough for the lolz, bonus points to myself when its possible to do in the tutorial.
I got one that can beat Ghost Trick. The technically post-apocalyptic looter shooter Destiny starts with you having died a long time ago, and you have just been resurrected sans memories but with space magic by a rather friendly space-magic powered robot called Ghost. Exactly how long you were dead is unknown, but it's likely to be hundreds of years ago, as nobody remembers who you were. Possibly even during the apocalypse if you chose human as your race.
I'd say Code Vein would fit in. Technically you got killed before the start of the game and only resurrect because you absorbed the blood of some sort of monster, which is the reason you got shot through the heart, which should have killed you for good. Tho that got only revealed further down in the game in some sort of time travely flashback.
You die right at the start of Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse, and then you have to take a deal with a god to come back to life. Fun thing about that is that it's not a one-time thing; if you die during gameplay, he'll resurrect you for free. Also, fun fact: if you find a thermometer, it says that your body temperature is abnormally low, just above the hypothermia threshold.
This could be a fun video idea. 7 video game characters that are to meta for there own good. And if you do this topic, please include the squid barron from the shantae series
Have we talked about Fire Emblem 3H？Both of them? You started of as mercenaries fending of bandits from future leaders of nations(Or just doing a gig). Died protecting one of which whom you may or not may regret saving much later (Or getting killed by a rivaling merc). Then get saved by your Progenitor Gods whom decides to possess you.
Even the tutorial in 3 Houses involves the students getting killed, then you undo that turn to revive them. It's purely a gameplay mechanic, but it's there.
One game that kills the main character, though not right away, but in the first three or so hours after you’ve gotten attached to them (first trial) is Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Geist: Not so much getting "killed" as "getting your soul forcibly removed from your body", and then having your ghost start to be brainwashed into a minion before getting rescued.
Saw this a day late. You do start as a spy trying to get information on the strange experiments and as you almost escape your commando group starts turning on each other due to ghosts. You get your own soul extracted and put in a ghost prison. . . never did finish after getting stuck myself maybe there is a good lets play.
Well I got some games for you to put on this list for another commentor Edition 1. These games in the Legacy of Kain series: Blood Omen - technically Kain gets turned into a Vampire but still he gets killed and then turned into a Vampire right in the beginning cant get anymore deader than being an undead vampire, Soul Reaver 1 - Raziel gets thrown into a pit by Kain just because Kain was salty Raziel got wings and evolved before Kain, and this pit is where he essentially dies and gets reborn as a wraith. Defiance - Raziel essentially being "dead" in the beginning of his story as *Spoiler Warning for the Ending of Soul Reaver 2* He was stabbed by the Physical Soul Reaver and basically when Kain took the reaver out of Raziel our wraith boy basically went to the Spiritual Realm and this is where we find him in the beginning of his story in Defiance as even though he can go back to the Material Realm where he has a Physical Form he was technically dead as he was in a Spirit form. Poor Raziel cant catch a break here. 2. Xenoblade Chronicles (The first one) Even though we go through the game as Shulk and he is technically alive and well *SPOILER WARNING 2: Xenoblade Chronicles 1 story and Shulk character Arc spoilers ahead* as we find out later in the story Shulk was technically dead as a child way before the events of the game and the Shulk we know was just Zanza occupying his body until he could become himself again. What a twist huh
Not gonna lie, I did like Legion and its concept but I really would‘ve liked to keep Dalton. The opening was genuinely great and showed so much promise for that specific dynamic of characters...
It was a bold choice not to have an actual protagonist; I tried to stay with the first character I played as after the prologue as much as possible to make them feel like the main character which I don't think is how the game was meant to be played!
No love for Zagreus? In Hades you begin the game watching Zagreus climb the stairs out of the River Stix into his father's throne room. A scene you get to repeat quite frequently in that game. Then there is the whole execution scene in Fallout: New Vegas. You can argue that the Courier isn't really dead, but the guy was literally dug out of a grave and revived by a doctor. I say that counts. And how come Kingdoms of Amalur isn't here? The Fateless One is not only dead at the beginning of the game, but the resurrection gimmick doesn't even work in a timely manner. They dumped the Fateless One into the reject pile before he revives.
Can you do a video titled 7 times your best friend or friend was a boss or the final boss? Eight suggestions for this list is Riku from Kingdom Hearts, Pixy from Ace Combat 0 The Belkan War, any Undertale character, Gunther from Fire Emblem Fates Revelation, Weatly from portal 2, Faize from Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Volo from Pokémon Legends Arceus, and Edelgard,Dimitri, and/or Claude (depending on the route you choice) from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
Surprised Cyberpunk 2077 isn't on this list. like, it's not at the immediate start of the game, but the game really gets going after V dies and Johnny's engram revives him.
As someone who played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 The reason Why Jin and Malos made Rex Open the door is because Rex is a Leftherian and Leftherians are decendants of the legendary hero Adam from the age of Torna 500 years ago. The door lock has the Leftherian logo.
You could add the Legacy Of Kain games (the original AND it's sequel Soul Reaver). Both times saw your character killed off. In Legacy Of Kain you have your noble behind handed to you by a group of ne'er-do-wells and in Soul Reaver you're killed in the opening cut scene before being resurrected by a giant, omnipotent eyeball squid
Cult of the Lamb is a modern classic, you die, you make a deal with the devil, you come back to start a cult... Fun stuff
Typical sheep stuff
People always give sheep a bad reputation, following each other, mindlessly eating grass..They Never talk about the fact that All sheep are cult leaders.
@@joshuakirkham9593Sheep always have a death wish
@@midnights2631 True, but the cults they lead are not necessarily Cults of Hugs.
Can I just say, Ghost Trick had a good twist to the whole "Who am I?" question. Hell, the entire game is a good twist, I genuinely recommend people play it. It can be annoying at times, but the story is worth it.
Hey don't you dare spoil this amazing game or I'm taking you back to four minutes before your death!
It's one of the only games to make me feel actual emotion lol
The storytelling in ghost trick was incredible! Just had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. Also the music is an absolute banger to listen to.
i always end up getting a little frustrated when i try to explain that people need to play Ghost Trick; it's amazing in a way that you just have to experience for yourself, even if that means getting a little stuck on a few obtuse puzzles along the way
Ghost Trick is one of my favorite games! It’s the MGS of puzzle/visual novel games. Made by the same people who made Ace Attorney
Manual Samuel fits the bill. Samuel dies at the beginning of the game and is able to get back into his body, which the player has to control manually (including breathing).
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Yeah if those qualify for the list Fallout New Vegas is on there
The fact that game has combat is scary as makes me hope Bennet Foddy never hears about it
@@mewmew8932 Manual Samuel has combat?!
R.I.P. Dalton Wolfe, we hardly knew ye.
So much personality, and he gives off such a main protagonist vibe with a can-do attitude, yet so little time.
You can find his wife in game
Actually, you can find a randomly generated relative or acquaintance of his ingame, as in one playthrough I had his boyfriend as part of my DedSec collective, yet in another I had his personal “lady of the night” join up instead.
I remember encountering a glitch where i got dalton as a full party member... with what sounding like a text to speech voice.
It was really fucking weird lol.
@@Jolis_Parsec I know. I just haven't been so lucky. Yet.
@@sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046 or husband. :)
I heard "died and then brought back to life" and immediately thought of Cult of the Lamb. I mean, you literally start the game being forced to walk to your own execution, before making a deal with an estranged God and being brought back to life. I was a little sad to not see it on this list... :(
i though Dead cells which litterall starts with you possing your headless body
Wouldn't that belong on a "times you died but got better" list?
I immediatel ythought of Mass Effect 2 given Shepard dies a thte start of tha twhen the Normandy gets blown up
YEP.
So glad to have you back in the person. I can watch most of your videos, but I am hearing impaired. It helps me to see someone react beyond the bad subtitles I get. Ellen is the absolute fucking boss for HoH people. She's so expressive that even if I didn't have inputs I would get what she is saying. Her geeky expressiveness is actually an awesome thing to her disabled fans. I can just watch an Outside Xtra video, with no inputs, and just watching her face, reactions, and emotions pretty much tells me all I need to know. She's got got a fucking gift for that.
Reasons I watch Outside Extra:
Quality Content
Ellen's Puns
Gotta be honest, I was blindsided by "Evenworld". Never saw it coming despite being obvious in retrospect.
And the digs at Fox News!😊
Ellen's puns ARE quality content 😂
That's a bit redundant
I know it’s not part of this list but I just started Kingdoms of Amalur the other day because of Ellen’s praise for the game and I gotta say it’s really good. Also even though the character doesn’t actually die at the beginning of the game, they start off dead. Not sure if there’s already a list of games where the character starts off dead but Amalur could definitely be on that one.
I've just started playing the latest Dark Pictures Anthology game, The Devil in Me, which kicks off with you controlling a newlywed couple booking in to the soon-to-be-infamous "Murder Hotel". Hey, guess what happens!
Interestingly, one of the in-game menus seems to suggest they could get killed in different ways depending on what you do. For the record, in my playthrough Marie got slashed with a razor while in the bath, Jeff got caught in a gas room and suffocated, and Marie saw this happen while she was bleeding to death. Then I got a trophy for it.
Video games!
Pretty much all the games from that developer starts that way. 😆
It's not technically "the start of the game" anymore because of a new tutorial and the option to do quests in any order, but the main quest of Elder Scrolls Online definitely counts. You are captured by the Black Worm Cult, sacrificed by Mannimarco, who rips out your soul for Molag Bal, and wake up in the Oblivion realm of Coldharbour as a Soul-Shriven prisoner. Soul-shriven are basically zombies, pale imitations of the people whose souls have been stolen by Molag Bal, and made out of Chaotic Creatia and a Vesitge, the same stuff as Daedra that let them reform, so Molag Bal can torture and kill them repeatedly. But you have an extra Anuic aspect (lore speak for "being a protagonist") so your new body is a perfect recreation, and your mind is fully intact. So basically all Mannimarco and Molag Bal did was give you a new body that can't be permanently killed.
Oh yeah technically you do die. Even with the new tutorial you still get your soul stolen doing the main quest
So you as the Archmage of Cyrodil back in Oblivion didn't manage to stop Mannimarco completely huh? can't say I'm surprised..
@@faylinnmystiquerose2224 nah ESO takes place about 2 eras before Oblivion....so like 800 years give or take?
@chrisriley2321 yeah, roughly 800 years. ESO is the Second Era, before Tiber Septim/Talos shows up, and Oblivion is end of Third Era
@@PeterEmrysHuh, ok then, I was not aware of that having never purchased the game.
Murdered soul suspect has the main character literally fall to their death in the opening and goes through all the stages of grief in quips once you gain control again
Well, you don't fall to your death. You get shot lying there by the Bell Killer.
Wasn't that covered in first part?
@@kjm4721Think it was if I remember right. The box for it literally spoils that you die before you even get to get your head round what’s going on. But it’s still a surprise how quick you’re ground meat
@@oxfanblink4115 I'm aware. Damn, I should get around to finishing it someday
after falling you fall and die you get back into your body and come back to life, only for the guy that threw you out the window to shoot you.
One of my favourite things about Xenoblade 2 are the variety of accents and how they're all consistent depending on where they're from. The Gormottis have Welsh accents, Urayans have Australian accents and Ardainians have Scottish accents, to give a few examples.
And then of course, the Americans... well, it's a bit of a spoiler to say what that category is. I got spoiled by it, it was the only thing I didn't manage to avoid.
Lol, I first played the game with the English dub, and after completing it i tried watching some of the cutscenes with the Japanese dub, and...well...
Lets just say Nia is a million times better with the Welsh accent the the high pitched anime one...
I agree with Ellen, there should be more Welsh accents in games!
Also I can't remember the previous version of this list, but I'm going to assume we covered Final Fantasy XII and The World Ends With You already.
FFXII was my first thought. I assume its been mentioned.
I'm confused. Ellen said "British" dialects but then started talking about Welsh? Wales is a different country than England/Britain!
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 British and English are separate things. English would be Englandonly, but Britain/British efers to England, Wales and Scotland. These three together make up 'Great Britain'. For added confusion, UK (United Kingdom) consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It's all very needlessly complicated lol.
Not complicated at all everything on isle of britain is part of the UK
I'm in favour of a full list video of 7 Welsh accents in video games.
Eve Myles in Dragon Age 2 and Steffan Rhodri in Ni No Kuni for a start.
9:27 That smug face Ellen, I love it! EVEN the pun!
Pillars of Eternity II comes to mind. You went through the entire first game with your life (mostly) in tact only to start the second and immediately get bodied in the opening cut scene by the giant statue that was lurking beneath your home. You're only able to actually go on heroing because the goddess of death decides that you're kind of useful.
I will absolutely sign the petition for more Welsh accents in games.
You have at least two signatures!
That's why I love Assassin's Creed 4. A whole game with a Welsh Accent. XD
I would also sign this petition
I'm from Northern Ireland and for Assassin's Creed 3 & 4 they had a NI actor do lines for the guards, it was so funny hearing such a specific local accent while I was hiding in hay bales lol
Also more welsh words, as spoken by non-Welsh people.
I am SO glad to see Ghost Trick on here! XD Like they say, you LITERALLY start the game dead as a door nail in a super undignified position, and Ray is SO effing sassy with you. It's great. XD But the more you play, the better it gets! It's SO good! (Except for helping Jowd escape from prison. Absolute nightmare fuel that scene. XD)
It’s not as iconic a game as others, but the intro for Battlefield One stood out to me for being more than a standard scripted death sequence. It gives a unique view on the effects of war.
Most definitely; one of the best commentaries on war since SpecOps…
@@elenadirectorofmiiss7942 Agreed! I compeltely forgot about it until these comments, but I totally agree.
I saw it on a stream and it really stuck with me.
FFXII should absolutely be on this list. U start off playing as Reks, a young knight who is fighting for both his country & his younger brother Vaan. However, not long into the game he is killed & u get stick playing as his younger brother Vaan
@JN-so6wt He gets kind of better at a little over halfway to the last 3rd of the game but at that point since it's a FF game you've spend probably 40+ hours listening to him whining & saying how much he wants to be a pirate
Another good example is 1996’s Blood Omen Legacy of Kain. Having been refused a pint at the local, you wander outside only to hear "There he is, get him!" At which point its a case of how long can you last with no powers and a limited combo, before being stabbed right through the heart. And then the game starts.
Could also say the same about Raziel in Soul Reaver
Also Blood Omen II: Legacy of Kain. You get rinsed by the Sarafan Lord.
@@kurosakikun96 Was already dead to begin with, though.
@NickW855 while true it is another death there, as he's reduced to a spirit and needs to rebuild himself a new body to interact with the physical world after being cast into the Abyss
commander Shepard in mass effect 2
Context about the driving test joke for my fellow Americans: British driving tests are notoriously difficult. Passing after 5 attempts is not uncommon.
Meanwhile, America is full of drivers who only got their license because the administrator felt bad for them
Where I live in Canada the pass rate for the final test is 20% for the first attempt.
America probably has the easiest driving tests in the world, ESPECIALLY california, where 99.99999% shouldnt be within 100 miles of a vehicle.
In North Carolina, we stopped testing for parallel parking because the governor-at-the-time’s mother couldn’t do it.
This was hardly an invitation to crap on US driver safety. US and UK driving present very different challenges, not the least of which is number of cars on the road.
Ellen: "Petition for more Welsh accents in games!"
Edward Kenway: "Gotcha covered!"
Nia: "one step ahead of ya"
Unrelated, but thanks Ellen for the tip on the LOTR Conqueror Challenge. I got a group of friends to join, and I just made it to Bree today! Once we all catch up, I think we'll do the 680 mi to Moria as a fellowship. It really is good motivation to keep active. I hope you're progressing nicely yourself!
Well, technically, my character died before the tutorial started in Torment: Tides of Numenera. The game starts the character plummeting from the skies, and you can either try fall aerodynamically or spread your arms. I tried what would happen if I tried to fall aerodynamically.
Hilariously enough, ‘the Protagonist dying early on’ is a running joke in the Xenoblade series. 2 is just the only one where it occurs during the game itself.
Spoilers below!
In Xenoblade Chronicles, Shulk was killed as a child, and his body was possessed by local evil deity Zanza.
In Xenoblade Chronicles X, Cross’ Mimeosome (Remote controlled robot body) was awoken after the servers holding his mind shut down. This is also implied to be the reason for his amnesia.
In Xenoblade Chronicles 3, every member of Agnus and Keves (the two warring nations that control most of Aionios), including your entire party, have been constantly killed and brought back to life for however long Aionios has existed (which is at least 1500 years)
I eventually got into _Watch Dogs: Legion_ with its no-main-character gimmick, but I gotta say, if they'd actually done the game entirely with Dalton Wolfe or someone like him, that would not actually have sucked.
On the other hand, as tutorial missions go, it was pretty bad-ass.
I finished WD 3, but I never got into the switching character mechanic. Had I played as Wolfe for the whole game it would have been interesting, and that intro missions was great, so much hope for the game after that. perhaps if they had been revolving side-kicks it might have been better :)
Apparently there's no cohesion in DeadSec when it comes to Britain.
If this one was never mentioned,Bioshock 2: Delta the Alpha Series of Big Daddies you play as gets killed at the start of the game,then is brought back to life years later by Eleanor Lamb through connections with the new Little Sisters
The first two that come to my mind are Fallout: New Vegas, and Mass Effect 2
They must have already featured those in the first video
@@mar_speedmanThey mentioned Mass Effect 2 but, surprisingly, not New Vegas.
@@waterinmyotter6245 Huh. That's interesting. Maybe it's because the character never actually dies? I never actually played the game, so I don't remember, but I think it was more of a near death experience rather than actually dying and coming back to life
Unlike with Mass Effect, where you die and get rebuilt from the ground up
@@mar_speedmanin FNV, you literally get buried in a shallow grave.
@@Naptastic_voyage Yeah but do you actually die though or do you just get buried alive? I don't remember
Woo for Ghost Trick! And I applaud your pun work, Ellen!
1:10 "Sidebar: Where are they getting these pirate names and can I have one?"
You already have one, Corazon.
I don’t know what changed but I like Andy’s mustache even more! 👍
It is really good.
I’m jealous of how good it is 😅 It suits him when he’s Marshall/Deadlands’ missions’ antagonists
Played Disco Elysium. Tried to remove my tie from the still working ceiling fan. Overexerted myself, had a stroke, died. Total time played: 30 seconds. The rpg introscreen took me longer than I actually managed to play, on my first try. My second try ended with my character taking physical damage from sitting in a shitty chair, emotional damage because I was taunted with my misplaced gun, and finally the poor man gave up to go drink himself to death under a bridge somewhere. Good times.
Paper Mario 1 kicks off with an unwinnable fight against Bowser where after a few turns, Bowser flexes on you and uses the Star Rod to make himself invincible and scorch Mario to death.
Mario doesn't die though. He even falls into the forest afterwards and is still fine.
Edit: nevermind, he was probably dying
"He's fading fast, but he's alive!" - one of the Star Spirits when they project themselves to where Mario falls
@@kurosakikun96 i forgot about that part. Thanks for correcting me.
I love Ellen's bad jokes. They are the staples holding the excellent list videos together 😂
Her bad jokes are hit and miss depending on your preferences but definitely love her face when she knows it’s a bad joke but couldn’t resist anyway since Luke reacts to them usually 😅
dead space extraction's death at the beginning was however an interesting look into what happens to the non-immune. Since Isaac is half immune as are a few others in the series and a few are fully fledged immune like that fiance lexine of that poor dead guy you play as.
There's Fallout: New Vegas where you're shot in the head and are likely dead while Doc is operating on you.
There's Knights Of The Old Republic where you(Revan) technically die before waking up with a new identity.
Then there's Fable 2 where you die and are brought back by some old witch that then teaches you how to fight and stuff
I never realized it before, but in XBC2, the three people who hire Rex all turned out to be Blades. They needed a human to open that door.
Not just any human, but a Leftherian. Addam was very specific about the seal.
They needed a descendant of Addam, hence the Leftherian heritage and golden eyes.
I know the first Legacy of Kain game was mentioned 7 years ago, but the one that stuck with me was Soul Reaver. Kain rips off your brand new wings (which no other vampire has grown) and toss you to your death. You then come back looking much less attractive and as a wraith.
Final Fantasy II. You start the game in an unwinnable fight where Firion and party are killed but a little later you wake up in the Rebel Army's headquarters in Altair.
I don't know if Mass Effect 2 should have been counted,You get sucked out of the Normandy but Cerberus revives you
I think they have covered that in a previous video on this topic.
"Correction sir, that's blown out"
"Thank you Data"
"A common mistake sir"
How about Ethan Winters in Resident Evil 7? Okay, so this isn't revealed until Resident Evil 8 when Ethan gets his heart removed by Miranda right before the final battle, but it counts right?
The voice acting in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 made me the laugh the entire time. I love Andy's comments on Fox (Faux) News.
Bioshock 2 comes to mind since there was a whole thing about Delta being brought back to life by Eleanor through the Little Sisters.
Jin: That door can only be opened by 'you people.'"
Rex: "What do you mean 'you people?'"
Andy going hard on Fox News just made my day in not insignificant ways. Both times.
@@jaycee8433found the Fox news viewer.
@@jaycee8433 Your tinfoil hat is squeezing too hard.
@@jaycee8433 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fox News. The conspiracies are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Christian nationalism most of the dog whistles will go over a typical viewer's head.
@@jaycee8433 I'm not being hard on Andy. I'm in the Netherlands. From the outside looking in, watching (and tolerating) Fox News for any length of time is an exercise in suspension of disbelief. To be fair, I haven't really bothered since Tucker Carlson got fired, but _boy_ was that man hard to watch with any amount of critical thinking still engaged.
@@guuspot923 Please don't use the term critical thinking when you don't actually practice it. People pretending to be able to participate intellectual discourse is already a pain in a** as it is - they haven't even begun to read through the rules of logic, and most importantly, any list of logical fallacies (of which they are guilty of many).
“People can live without a sole right?”
Andy my good man, i have not worn a complete shoe since ‘92…
Oh wait, he meant SOUL. And i am only 28… really dropped the ball there 😅
Bioshock 2. It kills you off right at the start, basically forcing you to shoot yourself(in-game)
I think that was in the first video
There's also Bayonetta 3.
In No More Heroes 3, you almost die in the beginning then come back then actually die later then come back again.
I’ll be honest, the opening guy in “Watch Dogs Legion” would’ve been much cooler to play as instead of what they did with the multiple characters you could recruit.
A James Bond adjacent hacker would actually be cool to play and could be a nice compromise between the styles of the first and second games tone.
The Fox stab was priceless!
I think the BBC is an even bigger joke, but Brits can't say anything against the Govt run News Media. Attacking Fox is a low hanging fruit, too. You must be easily amused... and pretty naive.
Ellen's t-shirt choice is good.
1:12 @ this time the following poped in my mind...
CROW CROW CROW - MID CROW - MID MID NIGHT
😂😂
More Welsh accents in games? May I present ……. Elden Ring. Ahh Welsh Wolfmen.
I think what make a the Watch_dogs one even more effective is how much promotion there was of the game with a spy character in the forefront that matched Dalton perfectly.
In Breath of the wild, the first thing we all did is jump off a cliff and discovering that there is fall damage by dying
That should definitely count. As well as any game where you can jump into a campfire to test for burn damage( skyrim).
Well that's not really part of the plot. You could make an argument for the Shrine of Resurrection counting as being revived in early game, but the actual dying part you only see way later on.
14:24 "Phantom manner"
Well played, Andy.
Zomboid is very up-front about your demise from the very beginning. That being said, it's pretty hilarious how they kill you in the walkthrough.
"violent elderly people"
Holy crap, "Hell's Grannies" survived into the 2020s. Another notch in Monty Python's belt.
Legacy of kain was talked about but I'm surprised soul reaver wasn't. Also I believe there's darkwatch and blue stinger. 3 of my favorite games.
Dantes Inferno
You see a cutscene, you play a basic movement tutorial. Immediately after the tutorial, Dante is stabbed in the back and killed and has a boss fight with the Grim Reaper to top it off. He fights off him off and takes his scythe, but the fact that Death literally appeared before him and fought him off implies Dante died at the start of the game and has been undead the entire time.
loved Ellen's even world pun, and it was even Andy boo worthy which makes it even better
so is this what games mean by making a killing
The original Blood Omen had a similar start to Bloodlines, but you actually play as the nobleman Kain for a minute or two before assassins come to kill you.
Also, Murdered: Soul Suspect had a similar opening to Ghost Trick; As a detective, you are killed by the suspect you're pursuing and spend the rest of the game as a ghost trying to solve your death, and the original crime. That was surprisingly actually surprisingly good, more story than action, but I thought it was fun.
First Darksiders game. First you get nerfed, then you get squished!
bioshock 2 is the one that springs to mind for me, one of my favourite openings to a game
Good news Ellen. Final Fantasy XVI features a mish mash of regional English accents, including Welsh!
I normally wait 'til the end of the video to Like it, but I had to pause this video to Like it 2 minutes in 🤣
Stubbs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse starts with you getting killed and buried and a bit later a city being build on your grave... and then you get back up, go get revenge and even find love... its a weird game.
Don’t think it counts since you’re not in control when Stubbs dies and comes back
@@oxfanblink4115 You are not in control in the Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines either as it happens in the starting cutscene as well, so if that was on the list then why not this?
Shadow of Destiny (also known as Shadow of Memories outside of North America) is my favorite example of this! You're playing as Eike Kusch, and in the prologue he gets stabbed to death in a back alley. This sets the entire game in motion, as you're brought to an odd little side-dimension and given the opportunity to travel back in time and figure out how to prevent your own murder by a mysterious person called Homunculus. Except then you're murdered again in a different way, so the entire game becomes an attempt to figure out who's so intent on killing you, using a lot of time travel, including traveling back to 1980, 1902, and even the early 1580s. Absolutely love that trippy game.
I can think of a game where you technically died... dragon's dogma... having your heart removed by a dragon god leads to death 99% of times
And even brought yourself back to life. Eventually.
I think that one was in the first video.
@@obsidian179 yeah, you're probably right
Note: The Dragon isn't a God. He's basically the Hand of God and the first major test for the Arisen. When they're gone, if the Arisen fails at any point after that, THEY become the Dragon. Grigori, after failing his quest, WANTS to see the new Arisen succeed, but not without trial.
@@Maniacman2030 ahhh you're right ^...^ my mistake
The game is quite recent but, in Cult of the Lamb, your poor little lamb is directly murdered by some unfriendly cult leader just to be brought back to life by another cult leader
Who knew a game with 'Risen' in the title would begin with you dying...
Who knows, maybe they’ll be resurrected as a baker…
@@gruggerduggerhoose I think that happened Yeasterday...
@@Michael_Lindell no dough-bt…
I can't believe you've done this video prompt twice now without mentioning Shadow of Mordor. The entire plot revolves around the fact that you died in the beginning. The series may be almost completely non canonical to the Tolkien legendarium, especially in the second one, but god damn are they fun games. Plus I'm always a fan of video games where your character dying is actually real and you don't just roll back time to your last save. If you make a part three please, give the Shadow games a shoutout
I sometimes make it a challenge to kill the character right at the start of a playthrough for the lolz, bonus points to myself when its possible to do in the tutorial.
I got one that can beat Ghost Trick. The technically post-apocalyptic looter shooter Destiny starts with you having died a long time ago, and you have just been resurrected sans memories but with space magic by a rather friendly space-magic powered robot called Ghost. Exactly how long you were dead is unknown, but it's likely to be hundreds of years ago, as nobody remembers who you were. Possibly even during the apocalypse if you chose human as your race.
Excellent to see Bloodlines on the list!
Such an underrated masterpiece!
I'd say Code Vein would fit in. Technically you got killed before the start of the game and only resurrect because you absorbed the blood of some sort of monster, which is the reason you got shot through the heart, which should have killed you for good. Tho that got only revealed further down in the game in some sort of time travely flashback.
You die right at the start of Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse, and then you have to take a deal with a god to come back to life. Fun thing about that is that it's not a one-time thing; if you die during gameplay, he'll resurrect you for free.
Also, fun fact: if you find a thermometer, it says that your body temperature is abnormally low, just above the hypothermia threshold.
Between Fallout New Vegas, Shadow of Mordor & Dragon's Dogma, dying at the start might just be a necessary component of unforgettable games
You don't die in New Vegas
Sick burn on Fox “News” from across the pond Andy! Keep up the good work!
I prefer to call them Faux news
Eh, I would have gone with gingers but that works too
They meant CNN lol
Both news channels are rubbish.
@@midknight3350 did you know the Ginger thing only exists because of Southpark
More Welsh accents in games? Yes! As long as they're more Luke Evans than R*b Bryd*n XD
This could be a fun video idea.
7 video game characters that are to meta for there own good.
And if you do this topic, please include the squid barron from the shantae series
The narrator from the Stanley parable. It usually doesn't end well for him in many endings
Funny coming across this comment, just finished watching a Shantae stream.
I haven't watched any new OX for a while and suddenly Andy looks like a dual wielding rogue, and it suits him... Hat's off to that look, squire.
"People can live without a soul, surely. I mean look at Fox News."
Well done Andy. Stephen Colbert would love it.
Have we talked about Fire Emblem 3H？Both of them? You started of as mercenaries fending of bandits from future leaders of nations(Or just doing a gig). Died protecting one of which whom you may or not may regret saving much later (Or getting killed by a rivaling merc). Then get saved by your Progenitor Gods whom decides to possess you.
Even the tutorial in 3 Houses involves the students getting killed, then you undo that turn to revive them. It's purely a gameplay mechanic, but it's there.
The Fox “news” burns. *Chef’s kiss*
One game that kills the main character, though not right away, but in the first three or so hours after you’ve gotten attached to them (first trial) is Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Please let this list lead more people to playing Ghost Trick 🙏 you will never know where it is going
Geist: Not so much getting "killed" as "getting your soul forcibly removed from your body", and then having your ghost start to be brainwashed into a minion before getting rescued.
Saw this a day late. You do start as a spy trying to get information on the strange experiments and as you almost escape your commando group starts turning on each other due to ghosts. You get your own soul extracted and put in a ghost prison. . . never did finish after getting stuck myself maybe there is a good lets play.
"Look at Fox News" Andy is taking no prisoners.
@@jaycee8433 Found the sheep. 🤣
If you can't see the yellow in the journalism at fox "news," you can't be helped.
Well I got some games for you to put on this list for another commentor Edition 1. These games in the Legacy of Kain series: Blood Omen - technically Kain gets turned into a Vampire but still he gets killed and then turned into a Vampire right in the beginning cant get anymore deader than being an undead vampire, Soul Reaver 1 - Raziel gets thrown into a pit by Kain just because Kain was salty Raziel got wings and evolved before Kain, and this pit is where he essentially dies and gets reborn as a wraith. Defiance - Raziel essentially being "dead" in the beginning of his story as *Spoiler Warning for the Ending of Soul Reaver 2* He was stabbed by the Physical Soul Reaver and basically when Kain took the reaver out of Raziel our wraith boy basically went to the Spiritual Realm and this is where we find him in the beginning of his story in Defiance as even though he can go back to the Material Realm where he has a Physical Form he was technically dead as he was in a Spirit form. Poor Raziel cant catch a break here. 2. Xenoblade Chronicles (The first one) Even though we go through the game as Shulk and he is technically alive and well *SPOILER WARNING 2: Xenoblade Chronicles 1 story and Shulk character Arc spoilers ahead* as we find out later in the story Shulk was technically dead as a child way before the events of the game and the Shulk we know was just Zanza occupying his body until he could become himself again. What a twist huh
Not gonna lie, I did like Legion and its concept but I really would‘ve liked to keep Dalton. The opening was genuinely great and showed so much promise for that specific dynamic of characters...
It was a bold choice not to have an actual protagonist; I tried to stay with the first character I played as after the prologue as much as possible to make them feel like the main character which I don't think is how the game was meant to be played!
Much like the SPACE! Red Alert clip, Oxboxtra never fails to show off VTM dancing when possible and I'm here for it
No love for Zagreus? In Hades you begin the game watching Zagreus climb the stairs out of the River Stix into his father's throne room. A scene you get to repeat quite frequently in that game.
Then there is the whole execution scene in Fallout: New Vegas. You can argue that the Courier isn't really dead, but the guy was literally dug out of a grave and revived by a doctor. I say that counts.
And how come Kingdoms of Amalur isn't here? The Fateless One is not only dead at the beginning of the game, but the resurrection gimmick doesn't even work in a timely manner. They dumped the Fateless One into the reject pile before he revives.
GHOST TRICK MY BELOVED 😭😍💖
this game deserves so much more recognition, It's like my favourite game, I own it 3 times 😂
Can you do a video titled 7 times your best friend or friend was a boss or the final boss? Eight suggestions for this list is Riku from Kingdom Hearts, Pixy from Ace Combat 0 The Belkan War, any Undertale character, Gunther from Fire Emblem Fates Revelation, Weatly from portal 2, Faize from Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Volo from Pokémon Legends Arceus,
and Edelgard,Dimitri, and/or Claude (depending on the route you choice) from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
The three houses bit would probably be an entire video on its own lol
I suggest Ritsu from Hikari's route in Octopath Traveler 2.
Surprised Cyberpunk 2077 isn't on this list. like, it's not at the immediate start of the game, but the game really gets going after V dies and Johnny's engram revives him.
2:09 omg the Fox News joke! I’m laughing my ass off 😂😂😂
Xenoblade 2 mentioned! I never thought I’d see the day on this channel!
As someone who played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 The reason Why Jin and Malos made Rex Open the door is because Rex is a Leftherian and Leftherians are decendants of the legendary hero Adam from the age of Torna 500 years ago. The door lock has the Leftherian logo.
You could add the Legacy Of Kain games (the original AND it's sequel Soul Reaver). Both times saw your character killed off.
In Legacy Of Kain you have your noble behind handed to you by a group of ne'er-do-wells and in Soul Reaver you're killed in the opening cut scene before being resurrected by a giant, omnipotent eyeball squid
I think its a tentacle tree thing actually.