This needs to be said, I grinded every single spot that I recommend in the past BESIDES the 310+ spots as I simply don’t have the gear for that but I did enough research from RENOWNED players that I know are good at this game to provide info for those 310 spots. Numbers may vary from class to class and player to player (as pawel also commented here, he is a renown player that is crazy good). AND AGAIN THIS IS NO GEAR GUIDE. Just numbers and recommendations for where you should grind. And if you think jade is bad or average then you probably just haven’t learned the spot probably (no hate) AND I DONT KNOW WHO SCRUFFONS IS IM NOT TRYING TO STEAL A FORMAT Peace
I think it's really important to mention that not every class is the same and they tend to perform wildly different at different grind spots. Classes without mobility and AOE can do just fine in the marni room at orcs, but they will never get the maximum potential out of the spot like classes that can do the 9+12 rotation efficiently. Not everyone has good enough quick burst for gyfin or quint. I can print 2.5bil/h consistently at tungrad ruins on my nova at a 22-23k trash average, good luck recreating that on a class without a ranged bound/KD to initiate with.
Likewise, you can usually circumnavigate that problem - if bothered by min-max potential outright vs just enjoying your class and the spot(s) that suit it, by tagging - and if silver is a concern, you can do it during the very common tag events for virtually nothing, and outside of that you can just tag weapons and flip the gear if CBA waiting, etc.
Nice guide. Don't listen to people saying things like misinformation. You showed good spots to do at certain gear brackets, even used silver numbers applicable to average grinders. To avoid any misunderstandings it would be nice to include expected tl/h and income based on that, you did that for jade but other spots might have probably confused some people. Showing specific numbers when it comes to silver and tl for each spot would help in making people feel like it's not just your opinion, but the actual state of the meta supported by data from the game. Making grind spots guides/rankings is always gonna be a very polarizing topic since people will project their own experience and performance on spots you mention and disagree with anything outside their comfort zone. And that gets compounded with the fact that different classes perform vastly different at different spots and not everyone will be playing a meta class or have enough will to put in effort to actually learn a new spot that they haven't tried before. That said, normal thornwood is seriously not good, and I say that while being able to get 25k tl on blue scroll. 269ap should be enough to reach the peak of orcs on meta classes. Worth mentioning kratuga in the 253ap section. Not enough said about debo enhancing, but that's endgame I guess, so that's understandable.
I’m awk warrior, recently upgraded to 290 ap, but been grinding with 287 ap at jade with agris+yellow i can’t go past 26k trash full chill. But i know for a fact awk warrior is absolutely garbage at mid-endgame if you’re not succ, i’m fine with it coz i’m not a meta slave, but i feel like as well i could do more. Compared to giants on yellow+coin i’m pulling 36k i guess warrior excels at spots with good mob density due to AOE damage. Still frustrating and hard to believe the OP can pull 54k lul.. seems unlikely to me as well since i believe garmoth numbers tend to get very funky and fishy due to people’s ego and shit..
Great guide! Can you share or post a vid of a full hour grind in Jade? This will definitely help us out correcting mistakes when we do our rotation. Keep it up! Thanks!
Jade is definitely solid but it chomps agris when you clear that fast and it's income is below a couple endgame spots on average so I wouldn't say "best in the game". Nice video
ye fosho that's why I said its the best spot UNTIL you unlock the end endgame spots. no reaason to blast your agris in jade when you could grind like yzrahid or something with good gear
Jade is my new favorite grind spot. Im 291 archer and can only pull 30k trash atm. Really want to see how you pull 50k so maybe i can get a new tag character😂. My second favorite is stars end during drop events
@@vyus Not to mention sometimes you get the witch coin for Limbo, a iredescent lightstone or a flame as well. Rather people not go there tho so I can grind freely🤣
Nobody makes over 40k trash loot at jade Forest. This guy is misleading y'all. I'm 315ap nd I know for a fact it takes more than 1 skill to kill the mobs. Mind you they drop between 200-300 trash loot each wave/pack
Where should an awakening striker @ 303/410 go for best, efficient money? I tried to go Crypt as, on paper, I seem qualified but I get absolutely melted
Yeah jade star light forest is cracked, i been grinding there once i hit 281 and its been better then any other spot plus the Black stones i get about 160+ an hour at my ap which will allow me to get my pen accessories faster.
Ye that’s true I forgot ticking off all the journals ☠️ but the difference between 241 and 250 luckily isn’t the biggest, desert spots are still the go to
I returned back to the game when i heard we're getting a free pen bs. I have 294 ap and 351dp now but I can't even make 20k trash at orcs with my lahn succ on a yellow ls (without agris). I dont know where i should grind. I feel like my dp is way too low for jade or giant
your dp is enoujgh for orcs and jade and well for most midgame spots really, you just have to be careful and be aware of how to play your class, I recommend you watching my 2 guides on succ lahn since thats what you play
Tbh I was grinding in sulfur, because my witch there was just cracked... I have all pets T4 and they could barely keep up with me, but I abandoned that spot because I got like 200m which is dogshit... Idk I was there like 4-5 months ago I think, so I'm curious, did that get buffed again or something? Or is just my game broken somehow, I really wonder... Gonna try again sometime when I get there.
There's no point doing those 1-shot spots on a non-seasonal character, you're basically forfeiting free loot scrolls. The earliest where more gear could be beneficial would be centaurs, because of high efficiency ceiling.
Tungrad Ruins has the highest AP softcap in the entire game so I wouldn't recommend 309AP players doing it because it will be extremely inefficient in terms of clear speed.
Hey man, is Lahn really that good at Jade Forest?, I have a Musa 310AP and I move really fast, I can barely reach 32k tras/hr there (Marni room), because of the hard cap I am just a little above average, please tell me you are joking with those 50k.
my highest so far was 54k so I'm not joking I don't play every class in the game but at 301ap I can pull 45k with maegu, woosa, nova, striker, DK and Ninja. with those I pull at LEAST 45k, more is possible for sure but I don't play those classes al too much.
@@vyus OMG, how is that even possible?, now I feel very bad with my class and performance, I am not amazed for Maegu and Woosa, those are still broken, but 45k!! with that many classes is hard to believe, can you give more info on your buffs and rotation?
@@fenixcisne I use elixir rotations nowadays, it’s only 3m more expensive than frenzy so. I should use perfume of courage but it’s way too expensive so I always use bracing spirit perfume.
@@vyus I do it with frenzy and spirit perfume, simple cron meal, only with church buff, I don't have the PTW tent, "weak point" on light stones, do you do that in Marni room too?
not me grinding at Sulfur Mine + Pila Ku for 2 years and Hystria for another year XD. bought some gear now I chill at Gyfin til I have enough money to buy TET Godr.
Grind for hp potions spot. Thats what i did before grinding centaurs in the early game. While you get the hp pot pieces you sell the junk you get always have a pre order on pets by the time you have your hp pot you have all your pets T4
Jade definately aint that good, way worse than orcs or giants. I run it with just blue scroll since yellow scroll is only 50mil extra an hour. It can just save scrolls a bit when you have agris but the silver is garbage even overgeared at 850ap compares to orcs/giants.
@@falsie. personal preferences and experiences ofc matter, I’m just taking pure data and number into count 🫶 if you succeed better at orcs then deffo stay there
I'm 289 ap and get around 25k at Jade starlight forest there is no way that u get 50k+ no matter how good u are , most u can get is like 5 let's even say 10k more which is unlikely but u say u get double , ita not possible, you are lying
@@vyus yeah my bad. what i wanted to say that I'm over the cap and grinding as fast as i can but I'm no way near that. I know i don't play bad its just my results are always so low for some reason. didn't mean to accuse you like that.
You're not making 700 mil at 269 ap. I guarantee you that. Especially as a new player grinding elvia. Seeds of void are 10m ea nd you may get like 5 max an hour. Trash loot may add up to like 300 mil. You only make big money on bdo by grinding spots that drop either caphras or sought out accessories like ash forest. I highly doubt new players are gaming like they just drank 5 redbulls for an hour
sorry for say it but end of the vid sound like u dont ever try the spot and u just say its good , back to new spots on my Shao 289ap + pen upgraded sol + 420dp im pretty chill grind :) and earn good profits on highlands
well I simply CAN'T grind the 310+ spots yet cause of my gear but I gathered info from enough players that I deem good to know that the spots are good. not just guessing the spots are good :) Edit: DISCLAIMER I GRINDED EVERY SINGLE SPOT THAT I RECOMMENDED BESIDES SOME OF THE 310+ ONES so I’m talking about personal experiences.
This guide has a lot of misinformation. Also the NO BULLSHIT thing is what Scruffoon does. Maybe try a different thing for your guides to separate yourself. Not a bad guide, just needs some work.
None of the Ulukita spots are "great". Don't base your own results to those "UA-camr's grind videos" because they run buffs and potions that cost almost 200m/hour and only report the run with the best RNG. The only TRUE 2b/hour spots are Dehkia Turo because of Flame drops + Belt + high TL, but that's not even stable because you have to Waste time to find a mate.
even at my gear I can comfortably get over 1b at yzrahid, and people I know and deem good players constantly get over 2bil, they use buffs at turos too you know? you pretty much use buffs everywhere and the AVERAGE at these spots is 1.5b - 2b as stated in the video
This needs to be said, I grinded every single spot that I recommend in the past BESIDES the 310+ spots as I simply don’t have the gear for that but I did enough research from RENOWNED players that I know are good at this game to provide info for those 310 spots.
Numbers may vary from class to class and player to player (as pawel also commented here, he is a renown player that is crazy good).
AND AGAIN THIS IS NO GEAR GUIDE.
Just numbers and recommendations for where you should grind.
And if you think jade is bad or average then you probably just haven’t learned the spot probably (no hate)
AND I DONT KNOW WHO SCRUFFONS IS IM NOT TRYING TO STEAL A FORMAT
Peace
Striker awk or Sage awk at orcs with 281ap /345dp ?
@@HashashinFGC sage
@@vyus ty
HUUUUUUUUUUGEEEE, KEEP THE VIDS COMMING!! I WAS EXACTLY LOOKING FOR THE BRACKET 270+ !!!
this guy deserve more subs Wp guide
WELL. HE JUST GOT ONE MORE....
Great guide, it would be even better if u were to add timestamps with spot+stats recommended.
Thx for the video appreciated :) am 290 ap and wasn't really sure where to grind for most silver.
I think it's really important to mention that not every class is the same and they tend to perform wildly different at different grind spots. Classes without mobility and AOE can do just fine in the marni room at orcs, but they will never get the maximum potential out of the spot like classes that can do the 9+12 rotation efficiently. Not everyone has good enough quick burst for gyfin or quint. I can print 2.5bil/h consistently at tungrad ruins on my nova at a 22-23k trash average, good luck recreating that on a class without a ranged bound/KD to initiate with.
that's why I said in the beginning and in the video bio that it always depends on class and how good the player is : ]
Likewise, you can usually circumnavigate that problem - if bothered by min-max potential outright vs just enjoying your class and the spot(s) that suit it, by tagging - and if silver is a concern, you can do it during the very common tag events for virtually nothing, and outside of that you can just tag weapons and flip the gear if CBA waiting, etc.
The difference is a lot less than youre claiming. If you know your class youll do good at any grind spot.
Nice guide. Don't listen to people saying things like misinformation. You showed good spots to do at certain gear brackets, even used silver numbers applicable to average grinders.
To avoid any misunderstandings it would be nice to include expected tl/h and income based on that, you did that for jade but other spots might have probably confused some people. Showing specific numbers when it comes to silver and tl for each spot would help in making people feel like it's not just your opinion, but the actual state of the meta supported by data from the game.
Making grind spots guides/rankings is always gonna be a very polarizing topic since people will project their own experience and performance on spots you mention and disagree with anything outside their comfort zone. And that gets compounded with the fact that different classes perform vastly different at different spots and not everyone will be playing a meta class or have enough will to put in effort to actually learn a new spot that they haven't tried before.
That said, normal thornwood is seriously not good, and I say that while being able to get 25k tl on blue scroll. 269ap should be enough to reach the peak of orcs on meta classes. Worth mentioning kratuga in the 253ap section. Not enough said about debo enhancing, but that's endgame I guess, so that's understandable.
Much love thanks for the critique
I’m awk warrior, recently upgraded to 290 ap, but been grinding with 287 ap at jade with agris+yellow i can’t go past 26k trash full chill. But i know for a fact awk warrior is absolutely garbage at mid-endgame if you’re not succ, i’m fine with it coz i’m not a meta slave, but i feel like as well i could do more. Compared to giants on yellow+coin i’m pulling 36k i guess warrior excels at spots with good mob density due to AOE damage. Still frustrating and hard to believe the OP can pull 54k lul.. seems unlikely to me as well since i believe garmoth numbers tend to get very funky and fishy due to people’s ego and shit..
looking forward to jade vid, 50k trash is nuts i only get like 28k with 291ap
Is that 29k you use camp drop rate buff?
Great guide! Can you share or post a vid of a full hour grind in Jade? This will definitely help us out correcting mistakes when we do our rotation. Keep it up! Thanks!
if I decide to play the game again I will, I've been on a break
Congrats for 1k subs
I am one of those lahns that grinded centaurs hehe... didn't know it was so bad :D
illegal activities to grind centaurs on lahn
@@vyus me too.. I didn't know any better i would listen to those youtubers who said to do it.
Jade is definitely solid but it chomps agris when you clear that fast and it's income is below a couple endgame spots on average so I wouldn't say "best in the game".
Nice video
ye fosho that's why I said its the best spot UNTIL you unlock the end endgame spots. no reaason to blast your agris in jade when you could grind like yzrahid or something with good gear
Great video for beginers :)))
How exactly is orcs 800mil guaranteed? are you including the red shards in that calculation?
Jade is my new favorite grind spot. Im 291 archer and can only pull 30k trash atm. Really want to see how you pull 50k so maybe i can get a new tag character😂. My second favorite is stars end during drop events
Even at 30k you get like 650m PURE silver ☠️ cracked spot
@@vyus Not to mention sometimes you get the witch coin for Limbo, a iredescent lightstone or a flame as well. Rather people not go there tho so I can grind freely🤣
lets not let anyone know the spot is hidden op so we don't have to DFS hehe@@ariesrose5846
Nobody makes over 40k trash loot at jade Forest. This guy is misleading y'all. I'm 315ap nd I know for a fact it takes more than 1 skill to kill the mobs. Mind you they drop between 200-300 trash loot each wave/pack
warrior is good at centaurs using on dash and ground slash succession
Where should an awakening striker @ 303/410 go for best, efficient money? I tried to go Crypt as, on paper, I seem qualified but I get absolutely melted
nice! keep it up boss
How About with Full Pen Tuvala gear (239-242AP) to Farm on Mirumak Ruins? For me its feels rlly Good =) but i dont check the Money xD
Yeah jade star light forest is cracked, i been grinding there once i hit 281 and its been better then any other spot plus the Black stones i get about 160+ an hour at my ap which will allow me to get my pen accessories faster.
Don’t let anyone know tho, let’s keep this a secret
How much dp I need? I hit 281 with ator stone
@@lionheart619js i have 384 dp, you should be fine with like 360-370 go try it, its easy.
@@lionheart619js jade is doable with 350 but you still gotta be careful
When you finish season in pen tuvala you have 241 ap, not 256.
New players have no idea journals even exist until told by someone.
Ye that’s true I forgot ticking off all the journals ☠️ but the difference between 241 and 250 luckily isn’t the biggest, desert spots are still the go to
Any chance you can explain why Lahn is bad at those spots?
if you mean centaurs then its because we are stamina starved
Could you add the addons you use to farm in the garmoth link pleaseeee
I returned back to the game when i heard we're getting a free pen bs. I have 294 ap and 351dp now but I can't even make 20k trash at orcs with my lahn succ on a yellow ls (without agris). I dont know where i should grind. I feel like my dp is way too low for jade or giant
your dp is enoujgh for orcs and jade and well for most midgame spots really, you just have to be careful and be aware of how to play your class, I recommend you watching my 2 guides on succ lahn since thats what you play
Does anyone know if centaurs is good for succ sage
No, just pic musa or Titan succ
Tbh I was grinding in sulfur, because my witch there was just cracked... I have all pets T4 and they could barely keep up with me, but I abandoned that spot because I got like 200m which is dogshit... Idk I was there like 4-5 months ago I think, so I'm curious, did that get buffed again or something? Or is just my game broken somehow, I really wonder... Gonna try again sometime when I get there.
Nah I grinded there like 1-2 years ago with blue and agris, it’s still the same
it a not better to grind first for the infinity potion ? or ist better to grind it on season ?
personally I'd just buy the infinite potion since, but you can grind the spots in season if you want
There's no point doing those 1-shot spots on a non-seasonal character, you're basically forfeiting free loot scrolls. The earliest where more gear could be beneficial would be centaurs, because of high efficiency ceiling.
In orc spot this elvia or normally
Tungrad Ruins has the highest AP softcap in the entire game so I wouldn't recommend 309AP players doing it because it will be extremely inefficient in terms of clear speed.
I’m doing 21k trash 309 succ lahn so that’s just not true
what songs is this in the backround? o/
I just looked up heavy metal lofi but idk what it is exactly
Hey man, is Lahn really that good at Jade Forest?, I have a Musa 310AP and I move really fast, I can barely reach 32k tras/hr there (Marni room), because of the hard cap I am just a little above average, please tell me you are joking with those 50k.
my highest so far was 54k so I'm not joking I don't play every class in the game but at 301ap I can pull 45k with maegu, woosa, nova, striker, DK and Ninja. with those I pull at LEAST 45k, more is possible for sure but I don't play those classes al too much.
@@vyus OMG, how is that even possible?, now I feel very bad with my class and performance, I am not amazed for Maegu and Woosa, those are still broken, but 45k!! with that many classes is hard to believe, can you give more info on your buffs and rotation?
@@fenixcisne I use elixir rotations nowadays, it’s only 3m more expensive than frenzy so. I should use perfume of courage but it’s way too expensive so I always use bracing spirit perfume.
@@vyus I do it with frenzy and spirit perfume, simple cron meal, only with church buff, I don't have the PTW tent, "weak point" on light stones, do you do that in Marni room too?
@@fenixcisne I never go marni room, if you look what I used in my Hexe video then it’s exactly what I used for buffs, just adding Demi human elixir
not me grinding at Sulfur Mine + Pila Ku for 2 years and Hystria for another year XD. bought some gear now I chill at Gyfin til I have enough money to buy TET Godr.
Sulfur is the hood
Thanks brother.
where does sage farm awakening farm?
Ok how are you getting 500 to 800 mil? I'm new. i go here and i'm not getting that.. am i missing buffs?
which spot
im currently making 28k, 29k600 at jade forest with my awak hasha 293k, do you think its fine? not sure whats the average tho
40k should be doable for sure
@@vyus thats impossible for hashashin 😂
@@tchevensky7802 I’m convinced every class can pull at least 45k (at 301ap), a lot of people make mistakes at jade so ye
@@vyus what would rate as a mistake?
its hard to describe cause there could be so many but I'm working on a Jade guide so please be patient😅 @@tchevensky7802
sycraia after shard removal is just shit, feels bad.
I wanna grind centaurs but I still dont got full t3 pets at least, only 2 t3s so its a huge cap for that spot
Grind for hp potions spot. Thats what i did before grinding centaurs in the early game. While you get the hp pot pieces you sell the junk you get always have a pre order on pets by the time you have your hp pot you have all your pets T4
Pretty sure you can get more pets too from quests, pearl shop by loyalties (or even free i dont remember) and coupons
And make sure to put your pets on agressive mode so they take less time in between each pick
When you say 1 billion guaranteed is that all classes? Is that with agris or without lot of questions to your bold statements it’s guaranteed 😂
Where do yal grind for Caphs 😢😢
Jade, Gyfin, Oluns, Thornwood
i did 1 hour at orcs with 273 AP and i got just 250m from trash loot. it was around 14k trash... wtf im doing wrong
are you using lootscroll? idk LMAO
you can go watch my orc video and see if you see something you're not doing
Timestamps for the video would be nice
800mil ?? show us a video of you pulling those numbers XD
I appreciate the shorter guides, but are you trying to copy Scruffoons No Bullshit Guide format?
I don't even know who that is
Since when was making a quick concise guide trademarked? lol
Not the style, the title@@hichew8423
No bs guides are a thing throughout every game content creator community on yt
"it just gets better the more kids you get" 😂😂😂😂😂 who tf did these captions hahaha
It’s automatic captions😭 AI made them, I didn’t bother fixing it cause it’s lowkey funny LMFAO like gyfin underground = guy from underground
@@vyus LMAO
Wdym getting distos is fake? I went giants for 4 hours and got 5 distos... Granted was with returning player rng 😅😅
I haven't gotten one the last 15 hours D:
you do centaurs for 600 mil/h. pls tell me how
Just look up videos for it, don’t grind there on Lahn, only specific classes
@@vyus i main a warrior sucesión. Im trying to find spot with 257/260/310 . Im a returni g player
@@danielpopa718 sulfur mines
How tf do u get 50k trash in 1 hour dude, that's impossible
I agree with some of it
question why do i need high GS for low level mobs like orc camp?
I mean Elvia version of the spot
Jade definately aint that good, way worse than orcs or giants. I run it with just blue scroll since yellow scroll is only 50mil extra an hour. It can just save scrolls a bit when you have agris but the silver is garbage even overgeared at 850ap compares to orcs/giants.
I get 1b liquid silver everytime I go, orcs is more like 800m + shards so yea
same i dont agree with jade being that good, it just an average. I still prefer Orc over jade
@@falsie. personal preferences and experiences ofc matter, I’m just taking pure data and number into count 🫶 if you succeed better at orcs then deffo stay there
I'm 289 ap and get around 25k at Jade starlight forest there is no way that u get 50k+ no matter how good u are , most u can get is like 5 let's even say 10k more which is unlikely but u say u get double , ita not possible, you are lying
Yea bro I’m lying🧍♂️watch azurlias video getting 52k while using ONLY a frenzy please before accusing me of lying
don't want to be that guy but there are enough videos on yt to proof that 50k+ is possible, even 60k if you're a cracked nova.
You're just a damn noob, nothing else to say bro. git gud
@@vyus yeah my bad. what i wanted to say that I'm over the cap and grinding as fast as i can but I'm no way near that. I know i don't play bad its just my results are always so low for some reason. didn't mean to accuse you like that.
@@illidari777 idk I just got 27k in 35 minutes I sadly forgot my pets this hour but I’ll upload a video on it soon hopefully that helps
awa lahn op at centaurus.... succ is to slow for that stuff
anyone reading this thinking, yea I should try awaken lahn at centaurs, don't, you are perma stamina starved
You're not making 700 mil at 269 ap. I guarantee you that. Especially as a new player grinding elvia. Seeds of void are 10m ea nd you may get like 5 max an hour. Trash loot may add up to like 300 mil. You only make big money on bdo by grinding spots that drop either caphras or sought out accessories like ash forest. I highly doubt new players are gaming like they just drank 5 redbulls for an hour
Seems like a skill issue to me little bro
Dafuq you talking about? Tuvala Timmy can make upwards of 750m if you know where to grind and what you doing.
What is this auto translation on the top? xD
its from capcut, its auto caption so its just funny sometimes and doesn't say the 100% right thing LMAO
sorry for say it but end of the vid sound like u dont ever try the spot and u just say its good , back to new spots on my Shao 289ap + pen upgraded sol + 420dp im pretty chill grind :) and earn good profits on highlands
well I simply CAN'T grind the 310+ spots yet cause of my gear but I gathered info from enough players that I deem good to know that the spots are good. not just guessing the spots are good :)
Edit: DISCLAIMER
I GRINDED EVERY SINGLE SPOT THAT I RECOMMENDED BESIDES SOME OF THE 310+ ONES so I’m talking about personal experiences.
This guide has a lot of misinformation. Also the NO BULLSHIT thing is what Scruffoon does. Maybe try a different thing for your guides to separate yourself. Not a bad guide, just needs some work.
I legit don't know who scruffoon is
None of the Ulukita spots are "great". Don't base your own results to those "UA-camr's grind videos" because they run buffs and potions that cost almost 200m/hour and only report the run with the best RNG. The only TRUE 2b/hour spots are Dehkia Turo because of Flame drops + Belt + high TL, but that's not even stable because you have to Waste time to find a mate.
even at my gear I can comfortably get over 1b at yzrahid, and people I know and deem good players constantly get over 2bil, they use buffs at turos too you know? you pretty much use buffs everywhere and the AVERAGE at these spots is 1.5b - 2b as stated in the video
bro is clueless
wtf is this clickbait?? titles says tuvala. but also shows his gear 290+ap and showing elvia spots 🤣
I'm convinced you haven't even watched the video bro
"Israel Highland"