this is what i feel about some of the Hakka material and some of the other arts you teach...I played with some short power in unique ways...then when I saw the Hakka material it clicked. I've started applying some of it as well as some of more unique strikes in my training
Adam is right. After 8 years in Northern Shaolin i lost to a wing chun player then randomly I started narrowing my stance, trapping, and using short power. then I fell in love with Hakka arts
I love Hsing I, I also practice FMA, I think they are similar in that they both are weapons based arts that teach the student through drills and the application of principles to fight in an effective way. With Hsing I, it is the spear, with FMA it is the bolo.
I fully agree with the mess that can be created with just "mixing" some martial arts. in fact trying to train the different energies in different arts at the same time can hinder learning either art. But once one has an art trained in their body, anything can come out when playing with others. In other words - " someone presses on you in a certain way, out comes something different." Adam, you've trained a lot more arts than me, but I really appreciate your thoughtfulness and honesty about where things came from, which I try to do as well to honor others, and stay honest about the art I'm training or teaching. As well as your practicality about how you can put them together, or use them to up your ability. I've "really" trained mantis and shingyi as my main arts, with ongoing training in taichi and bagua. However, over the years I've played with guys from various other arts and picked up some good stuff from them. I also get the training 36-40 hours a week which I did with mantis for about 5 years in my 20s. Then slowed to about 25- 30 hours a week with the mantis and shingyi in my late 30s and 40s. However I'm now 64 and slowed way down in my training plus living in the boonies with not many people interested in neijia arts. I was wondering if you could do a video on the deeper points of post standing, maybe especially connected to I-chuan. I've always been intrigued by Wangchangchai and how that was developed from shingyi, but never had the chance to run into even an I-chuan practitioner, let alone a teacher.???
love your vids man.. hell yeah you can! before eskrima, hsingi was the last of the 6 styles I learned and going back and reviewing the other styles, all were more dynamic and powerful with the power generation learned from hsingi and the many many hrs of post training.
Of course. Xing Yi Quan is the main style we learn at Nei Lien 內煉 school, where John Squier also teaches Hung Gar, Wing Chun, Ba Gua and Tai Ji through it's substancial influence
In Paris ? I've heard about this school, I actually was supposed to do a trial class there. I couldn't make it and didn't go. I'm doing Yoseikan Budo now which is more or less a traditional Japanese mixed martial art
I've gone from karate to capoeira, to jujitsu, to tai chi and bagua, to wing chun, then back to tai chi, and currently doing tai chi and xingyi. Yes, you can combine. I still do a simple exercise from my wing chun days most mornings.
This guy is interesting. His final training in wing chun he sought out the oldest lineage in China that still exists and found they don't use the classic wing chun rolling hands, but more like the internal rolling hands ( shingyi, taichi, and bagua). This was also the sifu that taught him deep post standing training. And you can see him on the martial man conference in Thailand causing people to stick and freeze to his energy
I could be wrong, but I think you can get a lot just standing after you get strong, you can just let go and forget yourself. However, as I mentioned before, there does seem to something more though these guys are getting from meditation. On another note, the topic and question on the video is interesting. Back when I first trained with my mantis sifu I had also trained some Gung Gar, but found that it was impeding my mantis training and had to stop, because they had very different focus for training. However, shingyi and wing chun are similar in many ways. In fact I had a friend from Taiwan who was teaching wing chun and had trained shingyi as well. He used to say shingyi was like wing chun on a motorcycle, and called shingyi northern wing chun😊
For a new action to emerge organically, under pressure, with regularity, you have to be getting into situations that put the new action “in time”/“within reach” with regularity, and the action needs to be instinctively perceived as the strongest in those situations. The emergence can result because of shifts in your and/or your opponent’s attributes and/or psychology. Those shifts can result from things unrelated to martial arts practice, like an injury, or a change in your belief system. For long term evolution, belief has an outsized impact. Any belief opens certain pathways and closes others. For example, Wang Xiangzhai emphasized spontaneity and formlessness. That limiting ideal kept him from attaining the level of skill that Wu Yihui and Cheng Ting Hua had.
"At ten study Shaolin. At twenty study Xing Yi. At thirty study Ba Gua. At sixty study Taiji." It's a very common thing in the Internal martial arts. HeBei Xing Yi is integral to the Liang and Cheng Ba Gua taught by my Sifu who has a Xing Yi teacher come in every week. He says "Xing Yi is the engine. Ba Gua is the vehicle."
Earliest published newspapers about Wing Chun, the practitioner was teaching wealthy daughters of a Chin Wu / Jing Mo benefactor. First of all, the stucture and stance was much closer to that of the Hakka arts. Second, Jing Mo was teaching northern Arts in the South. There was surely exchange. Third, look at Leung Jan and Sum Nung branch of Wing Chun’s san sau / saan sik forms. Wing Chun VVVVERY clearly already has some likely influence from Xing Yi. Moral of the story: ALL these arts are already mixed martial arts from the beginning. Especially the popular ones: Wing Chun, Hung Ga, Choy Li Fut, Bak Mei, Northern or Southern Mantis. Also, the full quote is, “Jack of all trades, a master of none. But, often times better than a master of One.”
Brother, you already have. Whether you realize it or not, the moment you started studying another system, you started incorporating the concepts into your own personal style of martial arts.
If you ask the wrong question you’ll never get the right answer. If you ask the RIGHT question- sooner or later you’ll get the right answer. The question above is the WRONG question because ( and I’m not dissing you) you /they don’t understand WHAT IS THE HSING-I MIND? Hint: it’s not about collecting forms and techniques. It’s far deeper-the most profound essence of the art rarely transmitted especially nowadays. Another hint: yes! You can mix extremely rare expensive Cognac with cola….. but it’s not going to win any prizes.
When you trian for a while and experience different styles you start to see it all as moving free for your self..like adam says let it happen naturally. You'll be surprised at what you do.
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this is what i feel about some of the Hakka material and some of the other arts you teach...I played with some short power in unique ways...then when I saw the Hakka material it clicked. I've started applying some of it as well as some of more unique strikes in my training
Adam is right. After 8 years in Northern Shaolin i lost to a wing chun player then randomly I started narrowing my stance, trapping, and using short power. then I fell in love with Hakka arts
I love Hsing I, I also practice FMA, I think they are similar in that they both are weapons based arts that teach the student through drills and the application of principles to fight in an effective way. With Hsing I, it is the spear, with FMA it is the bolo.
I fully agree with the mess that can be created with just "mixing" some martial arts. in fact trying to train the different energies in different arts at the same time can hinder learning either art. But once one has an art trained in their body, anything can come out when playing with others. In other words - " someone presses on you in a certain way, out comes something different."
Adam, you've trained a lot more arts than me, but I really appreciate your thoughtfulness and honesty about where things came from, which I try to do as well to honor others, and stay honest about the art I'm training or teaching. As well as your practicality about how you can put them together, or use them to up your ability.
I've "really" trained mantis and shingyi as my main arts, with ongoing training in taichi and bagua. However, over the years I've played with guys from various other arts and picked up some good stuff from them.
I also get the training 36-40 hours a week which I did with mantis for about 5 years in my 20s. Then slowed to about 25- 30 hours a week with the mantis and shingyi in my late 30s and 40s. However I'm now 64 and slowed way down in my training plus living in the boonies with not many people interested in neijia arts. I was wondering if you could do a video on the deeper points of post standing, maybe especially connected to I-chuan. I've always been intrigued by Wangchangchai and how that was developed from shingyi, but never had the chance to run into even an I-chuan practitioner, let alone a teacher.???
Love your content and wisdom.
Please do more videos on Hsing Yi 🙏🏻🙂
love your vids man..
hell yeah you can! before eskrima, hsingi was the last of the 6 styles I learned and going back and reviewing the other styles, all were more dynamic and powerful with the power generation learned from hsingi and the many many hrs of post training.
Of course. Xing Yi Quan is the main style we learn at Nei Lien 內煉 school, where John Squier also teaches Hung Gar, Wing Chun, Ba Gua and Tai Ji through it's substancial influence
In Paris ?
I've heard about this school, I actually was supposed to do a trial class there. I couldn't make it and didn't go.
I'm doing Yoseikan Budo now which is more or less a traditional Japanese mixed martial art
I wish I could have a teacher like you had..
"That's wing chun. "... Incorporate what is needed, practice until it becomes organic. Love it. Thank you very much, sifu.
I've gone from karate to capoeira, to jujitsu, to tai chi and bagua, to wing chun, then back to tai chi, and currently doing tai chi and xingyi. Yes, you can combine. I still do a simple exercise from my wing chun days most mornings.
I love your idea very much
This guy is interesting. His final training in wing chun he sought out the oldest lineage in China that still exists and found they don't use the classic wing chun rolling hands, but more like the internal rolling hands ( shingyi, taichi, and bagua). This was also the sifu that taught him deep post standing training. And you can see him on the martial man conference in Thailand causing people to stick and freeze to his energy
Sergio Iadarola?
Very well said !
Excellent insight! looking forward to the live lessons 🙂 left a like on the video
Xing Yi is awesome! ❤
Question, turning on your toes vs heels vs middle of your foot , what are your thoughts about this ?
I could be wrong, but I think you can get a lot just standing after you get strong, you can just let go and forget yourself. However, as I mentioned before, there does seem to something more though these guys are getting from meditation.
On another note, the topic and question on the video is interesting.
Back when I first trained with my mantis sifu I had also trained some Gung Gar, but found that it was impeding my mantis training and had to stop, because they had very different focus for training.
However, shingyi and wing chun are similar in many ways. In fact I had a friend from Taiwan who was teaching wing chun and had trained shingyi as well. He used to say shingyi was like wing chun on a motorcycle, and called shingyi northern wing chun😊
Tanks a lot for the free advice and lesson. I just have one Question: How do you challenge yourself after you became as good as you are now?
Im going to think about what you said in this video
Awesome!
For a new action to emerge organically, under pressure, with regularity, you have to be getting into situations that put the new action “in time”/“within reach” with regularity, and the action needs to be instinctively perceived as the strongest in those situations. The emergence can result because of shifts in your and/or your opponent’s attributes and/or psychology. Those shifts can result from things unrelated to martial arts practice, like an injury, or a change in your belief system.
For long term evolution, belief has an outsized impact. Any belief opens certain pathways and closes others. For example, Wang Xiangzhai emphasized spontaneity and formlessness. That limiting ideal kept him from attaining the level of skill that Wu Yihui and Cheng Ting Hua had.
"At ten study Shaolin. At twenty study Xing Yi. At thirty study Ba Gua. At sixty study Taiji."
It's a very common thing in the Internal martial arts. HeBei Xing Yi is integral to the Liang and Cheng Ba Gua taught by my Sifu who has a Xing Yi teacher come in every week. He says "Xing Yi is the engine. Ba Gua is the vehicle."
Earliest published newspapers about Wing Chun, the practitioner was teaching wealthy daughters of a Chin Wu / Jing Mo benefactor. First of all, the stucture and stance was much closer to that of the Hakka arts. Second, Jing Mo was teaching northern Arts in the South. There was surely exchange. Third, look at Leung Jan and Sum Nung branch of Wing Chun’s san sau / saan sik forms. Wing Chun VVVVERY clearly already has some likely influence from Xing Yi. Moral of the story: ALL these arts are already mixed martial arts from the beginning. Especially the popular ones: Wing Chun, Hung Ga, Choy Li Fut, Bak Mei, Northern or Southern Mantis.
Also, the full quote is, “Jack of all trades, a master of none. But, often times better than a master of One.”
Brother, you already have. Whether you realize it or not, the moment you started studying another system, you started incorporating the concepts into your own personal style of martial arts.
Xing Yi rocks!
If you ask the wrong question you’ll never get the right answer.
If you ask the RIGHT question- sooner or later you’ll get the right answer.
The question above is the WRONG question because ( and I’m not dissing you) you /they don’t understand WHAT IS THE HSING-I MIND?
Hint: it’s not about collecting forms and techniques. It’s far deeper-the most profound essence of the art rarely transmitted especially nowadays.
Another hint: yes! You can mix extremely rare expensive Cognac with cola….. but it’s not going to win any prizes.
When you trian for a while and experience different styles you start to see it all as moving free for your self..like adam says let it happen naturally. You'll be surprised at what you do.
Xingyi is the engine everything else is a chassis
Hao Tao, 😊
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