Wallahi Iman is just an Emotional girl, instead of hitting him with facts and examples of why she believes he's point is stupid, she resulted to the lowest common denominator and insulted him for the duration of the convo, nice!
yh tbh she could of given examples of how many times in history women have lead and are still leading. Just in 2016, with Angela Merkel in Germany, now Theresa May in England, and the many other countries around the globe. Thursday automatically got the win the minute she went for character defamation. I think someone else should have jumped in cos now Thursday went home both ignorant and content with his misogynistic beliefs.
+ali Abdirizak a simple Google search has shown me countless parliament fights . these physical fights all involved men . Now tell me, when was the last you saw a group of elected women swinging on each other? I'll wait
stop being a week ass women times are changing a women can lead just like she leads the house hold dont belive your below a man you are not you were made by his side just like eve was to adam
You can research for yourself, when a women leads and runs a country she adopts masculine characteristics. Everyone powerful woman throughout history have been ruthless leaders. Not very feminine or female like at all.
I am astonished at the repulsive, ignorant and stone-age view which Thursday is proposing. He had no coherent or educated argument to back up his weak statements. He says 'I don't believe in mentally abusing women' what exactly is he doing when he's masquerading around with that nonsense. If he can say this on a public platform, what's stopping him from socialising his children into that ideology - that IS mental abuse. His kind of view is the reason why somalia is shambolic. I would love to know his level of education. He doesn't sound educated to me especially with his use of vile swear words. Very proud of Iman, you're an inspiration to your children. somali girls can do ANYTHING & EVERYTHING!!! One love from the UK!
omg i just watched sheeko sheeko for the first tie right now an i started off with this episode ur pretty iman but yu are very disrespectfull why would u metion his dick size alot of somali men from canada all know u now and its just going to make it harder for you to get in a relationship with one especially at ur age with 2 kids like come on grow up girl im not trying to be rude but u made a fool of yourself this episode. your angry at somali guys and i think its becasue your relationship didnt work out but that doesnt mean were all bad. takecare late cmment lol
Men and women play different roles in society . Our religion has set it straight from the beginning. In terms of gender equality . Spiritually there's no distinction in Islam . A women can attain the same degree in closeness to Allah and even higher , then there men counterpart being a simple house-maker. In terms of intellectual equality , women are know to have been equal and even surpass men , Aisha (Ra) our mothher, were it not for her 2/3 of the hadiths relating to religious rulings would not have been preserved. Especially in the field of Hadith , women have excelled , and they were known to be trustworthy. The reality is behind every giant in history there's an incredible women . The greatest of Giants ever to be sent rasulallah was supported by the first muslimah Khadijah al kubra , selflessly with her entire wealth ( she was a wealthy bussiness women ) to the extent that Allah greeted her along with jibril via message through Rasulallah.
There's a lot I wish to say .. From even a secular point of view psychologically ,socially and politically as to why men are more favourable/preferable( not more capable or suitable , that is simply not true) but since we're mostly a Muslim-Somalian audience , a religious argument will suffice. it is the Sunnah (Way) of Allah that he has sent Men as prophets and messengers , as leaders of nations , tribes and communities . Then subsequently after the finality of prophethood , men were chosen as khulafa ( stewards) . As to the wisdom behind such an appointment .. I leave it to someone better qualified. The reality is nowadays , men act like roaring lions , but in reality they are like mice. My conclusion , Somalia being comprised of 99% adherents to Sunni Islam , the state religion being Islam , I would prefer a man leading the country . Peace.
This guy is the type of father that will beat his daughters if they got bad grades but laugh if they ever got a job. When iman said have you even passed the 5th grade I was like ofcourse not , all he learnt is the word "first and foremost" . His arguments are irrelevant and dumb. His ignorance is so high he probably voted for trump for the sake of Hilary loosing. Iman you the shit keep doing you boo ❤️👌🏼
indeed!! "Women impure are for men impure and men impure are for women impure; and women of purity are for men of purity and men of purity are for women of purity: these are not affected by what people say: for them there is forgiveness and a provision honorable"..Surah 24. An-Nur, Ayah 26M
and some claim we don't need feminism. as long as guys like him can express their opinions proudly and not see a problem with their thinking imo we still need it... SICKENING!
While i don't mind a woman running a country. From the way this woman just spoke to the Thursday guy he provided facts while her whole focus was to come at the guy with insults (Being emotional). this only proves the guys point.
I'm on Iman's side, but she lost because she proved his point by losing her shit and resorting to name calling and petty insults. That's exactly what he said happens with women, and then she went and did it lolol.
This is a dope show concept. I'm not Somali, but can relate to the different points of view. Iman's got star potential. but I agree, she's gotta come with more facts (substance), and (just a little) less edge...
This was not a fair or a tolerant debate...the girl was just being abusive and really disrespectful and what was worst is that you had nobody saying..okay it's just he's view there's no need to be rude...they were all laughing like high school kids...what a shame it's times like this why I see all Somali debates are short sighted...I understand he point of view in terms of ruling when it's to Islam...only a man can be a khalifa(an Islamic ruler) plz look in to this more extensively inshallah
This was the worst debate I have ever seen. Iman is clearly not good at arguing because all she did was yell and insult the guy. Word of advice you should prepare for a debate especially when you call against someone! The guy had no real argument except the PMS thing. That's fine if he wants to talk about emotions being an impediment to ruler ship i agree,, iman should have turned that point against him and talked about stereotypical male emotions like ego and pride that cloud male judgement. Personally, I don't care whether a president is female or male as long as they are legitimate and are representation of my views as a citizen. Just because you are a women is not going to make me vote for you. salam
This isn't a productive conversation. The girl is getting personal with her attacks and the guy is talking in circles with no clear support for his opinion. The whole thing is Very immature
Hi, I think it's ok to disagree, but there has to be respect for one another's perspective (even when we disagree). I love your show. Keep up the great work guys. :)
Love the show! Can you put english subtitles for the all the somali/unintelligible parts like you did for Iman?, the CC function can't understand those parts. It drives me crazy to miss even a few words lol
You are born a leader, a president is a president but if you are not a leader you are just like any other chump, Ahmad Gurey was a LEADER, Said Barre in his early years was a LEADER. I love all Somali women ahumdiallah but they are not leaders.
As a man....women are prohibited to rule its haram if u don't believe it i can give u proof...the prophet s.a.w said( people who chose women as their leader will not prosper) he said this because at the time the Persians chose a woman as their leader and the prophet heard about it and that's when he said it. If u wanna know what about women their rights all that go read the quran their is a whole surah that talks about it. suratul (NISA).......we are so white washed and muslim and are leaving the deen and adopting the non believers idea subxanaalh may Allah guide us.
i love iman!! make her a regular, i live for her draggation. i support her collecting these ashy abdis, yes sister girl!! do it for the culture. you're cute too sis.
I agree with her point of view but I don't think it was necessary to use abusive language in her argument, and I think the last comment was just out of line😑
Somalia isn't ready for a female president. Leadership requires the support of: the voting class, the influencers (media heads, business leaders, institutions etc) & the real power (military, financiers & regional heads). The problem is that even if a female candidate had plenty of support from the people, the real power is dominated by men of tradition. Men who more often than not, fail to appreciate the feminine struggle. Women are no less capable than men. It's the ideology that needs changing. Change first occurs with ideas. Videos such as these challenge the status quo. Congratulations.
Honestly, they both sounded like children. An opinion is subjective and it cannot be wrong or right, neither of them backed their opinions with any facts or evidence and Iman spent the entire time insulting him which just made her sound petty. If you aren't insecure and truly believe what he's saying is ridiculous then calmly rebut his points in a respectful matter. This whole argument can't even be considered a debate to be honest it just became a who can be the most immature match at the end.
I agree with you 100% they can agree to disagree at the end of the day he's entitled to his opinion same goes for iman .. Her clapbacks were unnecessary and disrespectful . She can get her point across without being rude .
You guys stop roasting each other and actually discuss the issue the man on the phone couldn't tell the difference between a man and a leader not all men are leaders and not all leader are men. If you are a "man" and actually believe in your statements don't hide behind weak comments such as I love women blah blah. It doesn't count just like a racist isn't any less racist by having a black friend. Yet again no valid point from the caller.. What's your point? IM A MAN BLAH BLAH ISN'T A VALID POINT
The scariest part is that the girl is not aware of what Islam says about women ruling a country or congregational prayer. Not only her even the guy has no reference and its just his opinion. Neither of them have opinions based on their culture nor Deen… which is really sad.
eman was so wrong for this, insinuating he was an abuser , so low, she is an intelligent woman, she could have been calm and actually argued the point properly. i cringed > .
Because of the deen I'll say no because it's haram. I don't agree with Thursday as well "Woman can't rule my life" if he's a big man say that to your mother. Also you've never heard of a woman being a prophet. But I don't agree with both views
I immensely disagree with Thursday but Iman has failed in articulating her points.. Instead of actually having a rational debate, she turned to hurling insults at the guy. You should bring someone on the show who would put across their stance in a rational manner and although I understand it was heated, her insults done nothing to make the caller understand her point and in turn her whole argument was pointless. Further, she had no argument. Please represent us better (feminists).
Thursday isn't "against women" i get that. However, he doesn't put women on the same level as men. In a way that feels like betrayal. It hurts to hear that despite having the same intelligence, respectability and leadership skills we are still judged by the difference in gender. Im sure this cycle of male dominance in our culture will continue with people like Thursday still around.
I'm going to make several points through a couple of posts. Firstly, the host talks too much. It takes her almost a minute to direct Emaan to respond to Thursday at the start. She spends a minute calming people down or telling them to allow the other to respond when the loudest individual and the one who goes on is herself. This is a pattern in almost every video SheekoSheeko has uploaded; the host should not be part of the discussion and yet I come away from each debate with the sound of her voice being the most memorable. If the host wants to take part, please do. But give the position to someone else - someone who can ask open ended questions, ask for silence, without taking 30 seconds. It is obvious that she is opinionated, and whilst I'd like to hear her views, I don't want it done this way.
+Iman Ahmed There's no need to get defensive, Imaan. I wasn't criticising the show - I think it's awesome, and I'm sure it's not easy organising it and producing it. Having said that, I think the host should talk less, or get involved by sitting in on the discussions. For someone who is so vocal, it's a bit distracting to have her off-camera.
I love Imaan for her strength and voice and her clapbacks are fire but she's saying some crazy allegations and assumptions here. However, there is no way to speak to someone so barbaric and contradictory. Not here for the name calling, but this little boy needs to be put in his place. akhassssss
I don't agree with Thursday's point of view. However, Iman should have expressed her point across in a more professional manner, like bringing up facts about Islamic/nonislamic female leaders such as; Aisha radial allahu anha (all I can think of now). You go girl!
Iman has been rude and disrespect full to the guy and he used a lot of profanity word and brought sexuality to the show, so both of them need to recheck their way of discussion and improve their attitude.
Eman you're comparing apples and oranges. You're not debating, you're dissing. Just because he doesn't agree with YOU doesn't make him any of the things you're saying? What does domestic abuse have to do with anything, I don't get it??? I find your speech towards Thursday very disrespectful, if you want to debate do so, but don't insult people and their children because they don't agree with you. Funny how you are getting at Thursday for having that opinion when the brother right next to you holds the same one but you say nothing to him. #notcool
You know... Academia has always try to find the link between semi man and modern man's turning point in evolution... I think we just found the missing link in Thursday... Lol...
This person called Thursday is like a big child who is not fit to debate like an adult...I really agree with the idea that it's really impossible for women to run a country like somalia...and I also agree with iman ( BTW. I think she is a savage when it comes to presenting her ideas) that yes women can run "a" country. but not somalia. at least not for this generation. they both had good points and easily could have reach a mutual conclusion if not only for this "thursday" which got run over by imam.
This is exactly why Islam was brought to the people, to stop the mistreatment of ALL of Allah's creations including Women. The sole reason the world is a shitty place and shitty things happen is because people (not only men) do not respect Allah's creation and dont live in this world as guests but rulers..that includes abusing nature, land, women, children etc etc. It is so easy to generalize people based on who you have been around e.g. the women that man has been around who portrayed an image of 'crazy' n 'pms-ing' all ova the plc (according to him) but that does not mean ALL women r incapable of ruling....history has shown us a lot of men are also incapable of ruling and nations fall apart *cough cough* Somalia but nobody calls them out for their gender as being the issue for that fall, they only blame THAT particular man/his policies which should be the way we look at all leaders full stop. Thanks for the vid @SHEEKOSHEEKO xx
The elepahant in the room: Islam forbids women governing countries. Imaan and the others argue that they should be because it is the correct, moral argument to make. However, they've yet to address the Islamic argument. Why not?
+Lilac Skies Because religion has a specific, clear stance on the subject. It would be pointed out in any sincere discussion, so why not here? Even if you could convince people like LJ and Thursday on the logical merits of a woman President, they could easily adopt the Islamic point of view. My question is: what would the rebuttal to that be?
+Pdf cry me a river.. I didn't say shit about Islam so why are you mad for? I'm just saying arguing about religion when running a country isn't practical
+Lilac Skies But religion informs the views of many, especially on this specific subject. Whether you agree with it or not, it is probably the most relevant point there is.
100% I pray by the will of Allah that she grows up to know her worth, and her sex/gender will not stop her, no matter they systemic or cultural reasoning that tells her otherwise. As proud as we should be of our Somali culture, that should not blind us from seeing the wrong that is fosters aswell, the pushing of woman into the fringes of society, and equating them to housework, etc. he says it won't change, I think other wise
Thursday is entitled to his opinion. tbh unless I am mistaken islam doesn't permit women to be head of states but they are of course permitted senior government positions. I wish somebody had a come back for the who gets fuc*** point he was making. does his wife not pleasure him as in 'make love to him' in a way that caters to his needs? I thought the panel became too shocked to retaliate with a valid comeback to this point of his. love this channel and this debate stuff mainly. love from Iceland xx
Thursady made valid points of his opinion(Which I DON'T AGREE WITH, to a certain point) but the girl was making points that didn't really hit his points it was just a bunch of breaking it down to two options or expanding it with assumptions so in terms of logic she was off
This is the worst debate I ever watch from sheeko sheeko presents. I like iman but Iman show respect even to to people who don't deserve it, not as a reflection of their character but a reflection of yours and at the end of the day it's his opinion u can't change it and to be honest with you I have to agree with him at some point cuz there is no way women can be leaders don't forget that we are Muslim and it's Haraam don't be mislead by the western ideas I love my sisters, daughters and my beautiful mom I have to agree with you too at some point cuz Thursday was so harsh with his words and I don't like most of the things he said but that is not the way to talk to people especially when cameras involved. anyway greetings all of you Stay blessed dhamaan
actually i dont know why it became so controversial to say women cant be the president to ask queen buuq at this moment. u have seen how badly our country doing right now and top of that our religion states that when it comes ruling women should behind man what is wrong u guys
eman your educated woman but do some reseach to our islamic deen to give him more proves women use to be leaders by the time of our provet Mahamad scw but this guy only bushing with no points and reasons disgusting he is ignorant let him go bck to school
Man what is up how do U think women can’t control the world if U look the history U will see that amazing women also if U look and read the Quran U will see in the Quran it talks about queen.
i realy wanted to listen to a mormal and classy debate but.not a fight and swearing at eachother becaus here iman was just insulting most at the time that was not pleasant maybe thats why men are saying we cannot run the country when we get angry we start swearing and fighting
funnily enough Thursday though his argument wasn't concise was making points dumb founded they may be nonetheless still points. On the other hand u have eeman who just resorted 2 ad hominem attacks which does not help or add 2 the argument one bit. the bro in blue is a cool kat
Iman looks like a young Julia Roberts 😍😍
maybe you same people.
Aisha Ahmed say istaqfurlaha pray to rakah she has nothing in common
Aisha Ahmed You’re beautiful mashallah
i actually died of laughter when he said you're getting dooed
Wallahi Iman is just an Emotional girl, instead of hitting him with facts and examples of why she believes he's point is stupid, she resulted to the lowest common denominator and insulted him for the duration of the convo, nice!
yh tbh she could of given examples of how many times in history women have lead and are still leading. Just in 2016, with Angela Merkel in Germany, now Theresa May in England, and the many other countries around the globe. Thursday automatically got the win the minute she went for character defamation. I think someone else should have jumped in cos now Thursday went home both ignorant and content with his misogynistic beliefs.
Iman is my spirit Somali🙌🏾
I do not believe people are entitled to any sort of opinion. You can have an informed opinion, but you're not entitled to ignorance
+Hibo Abdi since when does a person's nickname define his/her intelligence?
+_2k15 lol excatly all i see is women getting emotional and insulting him. Really tho, how can these women be expected to run a state.
+ali Abdirizak a simple Google search has shown me countless parliament fights . these physical fights all involved men . Now tell me, when was the last you saw a group of elected women swinging on each other? I'll wait
+Eden O Great point!
Before I even watch this, I must say...YAAAS MY GIRL HALIMA iS BAAACK
+Nora Ali I had to see if she was here before watching lol
say Masha Allah evrybody loves Halima..
it's true women shouldn't rule a country. It's not my words, it's the words of the prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him.
+Fatimah Muhammad fuck that shit..
Hodan what? Are you mad at me?
Hodan don't use bad words sister.
stop being a week ass women times are changing a women can lead just like she leads the house hold dont belive your below a man you are not you were made by his side just like eve was to adam
You can research for yourself, when a women leads and runs a country she adopts masculine characteristics. Everyone powerful woman throughout history have been ruthless leaders. Not very feminine or female like at all.
I am astonished at the repulsive, ignorant and stone-age view which Thursday is proposing. He had no coherent or educated argument to back up his weak statements. He says 'I don't believe in mentally abusing women' what exactly is he doing when he's masquerading around with that nonsense. If he can say this on a public platform, what's stopping him from socialising his children into that ideology - that IS mental abuse. His kind of view is the reason why somalia is shambolic. I would love to know his level of education. He doesn't sound educated to me especially with his use of vile swear words.
Very proud of Iman, you're an inspiration to your children. somali girls can do ANYTHING & EVERYTHING!!!
One love from the UK!
You do realize you called me s clown right? ...Somali people and there love of being what they say they hate...
omg i just watched sheeko sheeko for the first tie right now an i started off with this episode ur pretty iman but yu are very disrespectfull why would u metion his dick size alot of somali men from canada all know u now and its just going to make it harder for you to get in a relationship with one especially at ur age with 2 kids like come on grow up girl im not trying to be rude but u made a fool of yourself this episode. your angry at somali guys and i think its becasue your relationship didnt work out but that doesnt mean were all bad. takecare late cmment lol
Men and women play different roles in society . Our religion has set it straight from the beginning.
In terms of gender equality . Spiritually there's no distinction in Islam . A women can attain the same degree in closeness to Allah and even higher , then there men counterpart being a simple house-maker.
In terms of intellectual equality , women are know to have been equal and even surpass men , Aisha (Ra) our mothher, were it not for her 2/3 of the hadiths relating to religious rulings would not have been preserved. Especially in the field of Hadith , women have excelled , and they were known to be trustworthy.
The reality is behind every giant in history there's an incredible women . The greatest of Giants ever to be sent rasulallah was supported by the first muslimah Khadijah al kubra , selflessly with her entire wealth ( she was a wealthy bussiness women ) to the extent that Allah greeted her along with jibril via message through Rasulallah.
There's a lot I wish to say .. From even a secular point of view psychologically ,socially and politically as to why men are more favourable/preferable( not more capable or suitable , that is simply not true) but since we're mostly a Muslim-Somalian audience , a religious argument will suffice.
it is the Sunnah (Way) of Allah that he has sent Men as prophets and messengers , as leaders of nations , tribes and communities . Then subsequently after the finality of prophethood , men were chosen as khulafa ( stewards) . As to the wisdom behind such an appointment .. I leave it to someone better qualified.
The reality is nowadays , men act like roaring lions , but in reality they are like mice.
My conclusion , Somalia being comprised of 99% adherents to Sunni Islam , the state religion being Islam , I would prefer a man leading the country .
Peace.
+Mourad ali mashallah you're very wise and I agree with you so much on every thing you said. ma'salama.
I totally agree with you. JazakAllah khayr
YOOOOO wallahi this the best show on youtube lmao
This guy is the type of father that will beat his daughters if they got bad grades but laugh if they ever got a job. When iman said have you even passed the 5th grade I was like ofcourse not , all he learnt is the word "first and foremost" . His arguments are irrelevant and dumb. His ignorance is so high he probably voted for trump for the sake of Hilary loosing. Iman you the shit keep doing you boo ❤️👌🏼
indeed!! "Women impure are for men impure and men impure are for women impure; and women of purity are for men of purity and men of purity are for women of purity: these are not affected by what people say: for them there is forgiveness and a provision honorable"..Surah 24. An-Nur, Ayah 26M
and some claim we don't need feminism. as long as guys like him can express their opinions proudly and not see a problem with their thinking imo we still need it... SICKENING!
Eman just reinforced the idea why women can't be leaders, way too emotional. Calm down, lady. This isn't your living room.
Iman is 👌🏾🔥🔥 Thursday needs to take the leap.
While i don't mind a woman running a country. From the way this woman just spoke to the Thursday guy he provided facts while her whole focus was to come at the guy with insults (Being emotional). this only proves the guys point.
All these videos posting today!! hahahaha thanks
I'm on Iman's side, but she lost because she proved his point by losing her shit and resorting to name calling and petty insults. That's exactly what he said happens with women, and then she went and did it lolol.
After watching the debate, I clearly concur with Thursday. What can I say, he’s a better debater
Let's all keep his daughters in our prayers, eh?
Iman was too reactionary. doesn't know how to calmly articulate her points. A big nerve was pulled that day by this Tuesday fellow.
NFN MRM typical women reaction always emotional and that’s why they never gonna be good leaders.
This is a dope show concept. I'm not Somali, but can relate to the different points of view. Iman's got star potential. but I agree, she's gotta come with more facts (substance), and (just a little) less edge...
This was not a fair or a tolerant debate...the girl was just being abusive and really disrespectful and what was worst is that you had nobody saying..okay it's just he's view there's no need to be rude...they were all laughing like high school kids...what a shame it's times like this why I see all Somali debates are short sighted...I understand he point of view in terms of ruling when it's to Islam...only a man can be a khalifa(an Islamic ruler) plz look in to this more extensively inshallah
oh and eman proved his point, she got wayyyyy too emotional
This was the worst debate I have ever seen. Iman is clearly not good at arguing because all she did was yell and insult the guy. Word of advice you should prepare for a debate especially when you call against someone! The guy had no real argument except the PMS thing. That's fine if he wants to talk about emotions being an impediment to ruler ship i agree,, iman should have turned that point against him and talked about stereotypical male emotions like ego and pride that cloud male judgement. Personally, I don't care whether a president is female or male as long as they are legitimate and are representation of my views as a citizen. Just because you are a women is not going to make me vote for you.
salam
lmfaooooooooooooo
This isn't a productive conversation. The girl is getting personal with her attacks and the guy is talking in circles with no clear support for his opinion. The whole thing is Very immature
I like Thursday’s view of leadership. It suits me PRETTY well!
Hi,
I think it's ok to disagree, but there has to be respect for one another's perspective
(even when we disagree). I love your show. Keep up the great work guys. :)
TeamEmaan all the way, thursday is very ignorant.
Love the show! Can you put english subtitles for the all the somali/unintelligible parts like you did for Iman?, the CC function can't understand those parts. It drives me crazy to miss even a few words lol
You are born a leader, a president is a president but if you are not a leader you are just like any other chump, Ahmad Gurey was a LEADER, Said Barre in his early years was a LEADER. I love all Somali women ahumdiallah but they are not leaders.
that guy is hella ignorant but I'm sorry iman proved all his points by her emotional reactions 😂😂
As a man....women are prohibited to rule its haram if u don't believe it i can give u proof...the prophet s.a.w said( people who chose women as their leader will not prosper) he said this because at the time the Persians chose a woman as their leader and the prophet heard about it and that's when he said it. If u wanna know what about women their rights all that go read the quran their is a whole surah that talks about it. suratul (NISA).......we are so white washed and muslim and are leaving the deen and adopting the non believers idea subxanaalh may Allah guide us.
Wallahi I've waited for this too long 😂😂 love sheeko sheeko 💕💕
TeamIman all the waay ❤️❤️💪🏽 thank God that he is not my father or brother damn what small minded person
Somali Canadians are actually funny, "They hired the black guy" looooool
''even in bed, hes doing you not you doing him''
He said they get theire PMS I caaant.. Doqon kan ya naga qabsada..
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wallahi he made me qosol nacalaaaa
i love iman!! make her a regular, i live for her draggation. i support her collecting these ashy abdis, yes sister girl!! do it for the culture. you're cute too sis.
HEY BRO LOVE IMAN FROM MALAYSIA
IMAAAAANNNNNNNNN GIRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL you spitting fireeeeeee
I agree with her point of view but I don't think it was necessary to use abusive language in her argument, and I think the last comment was just out of line😑
Way to go to represent the argument that women are not emotional #fail
Wow this show is dope!
Also iman and Halima are gorgeous mashallah 🙌🏾
Somalia isn't ready for a female president. Leadership requires the support of: the voting class, the influencers (media heads, business leaders, institutions etc) & the real power (military, financiers & regional heads). The problem is that even if a female candidate had plenty of support from the people, the real power is dominated by men of tradition. Men who more often than not, fail to appreciate the feminine struggle. Women are no less capable than men. It's the ideology that needs changing. Change first occurs with ideas. Videos such as these challenge the status quo. Congratulations.
Honestly, they both sounded like children. An opinion is subjective and it cannot be wrong or right, neither of them backed their opinions with any facts or evidence and Iman spent the entire time insulting him which just made her sound petty. If you aren't insecure and truly believe what he's saying is ridiculous then calmly rebut his points in a respectful matter. This whole argument can't even be considered a debate to be honest it just became a who can be the most immature match at the end.
I agree with you 100% they can agree to disagree at the end of the day he's entitled to his opinion same goes for iman .. Her clapbacks were unnecessary and disrespectful . She can get her point across without being rude .
do more show we love it.
I've always said from day one that nigga Thursday got the sense of a mental patient
You guys stop roasting each other and actually discuss the issue the man on the phone couldn't tell the difference between a man and a leader not all men are leaders and not all leader are men. If you are a "man" and actually believe in your statements don't hide behind weak comments such as I love women blah blah. It doesn't count just like a racist isn't any less racist by having a black friend. Yet again no valid point from the caller.. What's your point? IM A MAN BLAH BLAH ISN'T A VALID POINT
team iman !!!
LMAO they need to get these two in the same place.
IMAN SHUT IT DOWN!!! Way to go girl!
The scariest part is that the girl is not aware of what Islam says about women ruling a country or congregational prayer. Not only her even the guy has no reference and its just his opinion. Neither of them have opinions based on their culture nor Deen… which is really sad.
I don't mind a female president, as long as she is beautiful.
team Iman all the way 👌
Iman you are brave girl, you have said right, just avoid the "f" word, the guy on the phone I think he is living in the medieval ages...
imaaaaaan imaan imman
Thursday actually sounds like a waste of space.....
eman was so wrong for this, insinuating he was an abuser , so low, she is an intelligent woman, she could have been calm and actually argued the point properly. i cringed > .
Thursday makes sense too
Because of the deen I'll say no because it's haram. I don't agree with Thursday as well "Woman can't rule my life" if he's a big man say that to your mother. Also you've never heard of a woman being a prophet. But I don't agree with both views
+Mahamed Ahmed What DO you agree with then?
It is allowed in islam. in the quran there is the example of queen balques who after she embraced islam continued to rule the kingdom of sheba.
+Nasro abdulahi exactly!! it's so sad how people brainwashed woman into believing they can't rule in religion
Queen of sheba was before the deen of islam was completed for us so before the time of prophet mohamedصلالله عليه و سلم
what's the name of the song at the intro
I immensely disagree with Thursday but Iman has failed in articulating her points.. Instead of actually having a rational debate, she turned to hurling insults at the guy. You should bring someone on the show who would put across their stance in a rational manner and although I understand it was heated, her insults done nothing to make the caller understand her point and in turn her whole argument was pointless. Further, she had no argument. Please represent us better (feminists).
Yaaaaas emaaaan!
Thursday isn't "against women" i get that. However, he doesn't put women on the same level as men. In a way that feels like betrayal. It hurts to hear that despite having the same intelligence, respectability and leadership skills we are still judged by the difference in gender. Im sure this cycle of male dominance in our culture will continue with people like Thursday still around.
His comments are soo irrelevent I don't understand how can you even listen to him. I'm really disgusted
I'll say no because it's haram it's doesn't mean we hate women we have maam sister we love all women somalia
I'm going to make several points through a couple of posts.
Firstly, the host talks too much. It takes her almost a minute to direct Emaan to respond to Thursday at the start. She spends a minute calming people down or telling them to allow the other to respond when the loudest individual and the one who goes on is herself. This is a pattern in almost every video SheekoSheeko has uploaded; the host should not be part of the discussion and yet I come away from each debate with the sound of her voice being the most memorable.
If the host wants to take part, please do. But give the position to someone else - someone who can ask open ended questions, ask for silence, without taking 30 seconds. It is obvious that she is opinionated, and whilst I'd like to hear her views, I don't want it done this way.
You have such great ideas ..you should star your own channel ..you make it seem so easy...
+Iman Ahmed There's no need to get defensive, Imaan. I wasn't criticising the show - I think it's awesome, and I'm sure it's not easy organising it and producing it. Having said that, I think the host should talk less, or get involved by sitting in on the discussions. For someone who is so vocal, it's a bit distracting to have her off-camera.
man the host is really good
I love Imaan for her strength and voice and her clapbacks are fire but she's saying some crazy allegations and assumptions here. However, there is no way to speak to someone so barbaric and contradictory. Not here for the name calling, but this little boy needs to be put in his place. akhassssss
I don't agree with Thursday's point of view. However, Iman should have expressed her point across in a more professional manner, like bringing up facts about Islamic/nonislamic female leaders such as; Aisha radial allahu anha (all I can think of now). You go girl!
Iman has been rude and disrespect full to the guy and he used a lot of profanity word and brought sexuality to the show, so both of them need to recheck their way of discussion and improve their attitude.
Watch karim from 2:02 for like 20 seconds
Eman you're comparing apples and oranges. You're not debating, you're dissing. Just because he doesn't agree with YOU doesn't make him any of the things you're saying? What does domestic abuse have to do with anything, I don't get it??? I find your speech towards Thursday very disrespectful, if you want to debate do so, but don't insult people and their children because they don't agree with you. Funny how you are getting at Thursday for having that opinion when the brother right next to you holds the same one but you say nothing to him. #notcool
THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD LAUGH LOL
agg whn somali will change????!!!
You know... Academia has always try to find the link between semi man and modern man's turning point in evolution... I think we just found the missing link in Thursday... Lol...
"Men have been living for thousands of years" tell me where did those men come from exactly. Then we will continue, Issa beef
This person called Thursday is like a big child who is not fit to debate like an adult...I really agree with the idea that it's really impossible for women to run a country like somalia...and I also agree with iman ( BTW. I think she is a savage when it comes to presenting her ideas) that yes women can run "a" country.
but not somalia. at least not for this generation. they both had good points and easily could have reach a mutual conclusion if not only for this "thursday" which got run over by imam.
This is exactly why Islam was brought to the people, to stop the mistreatment of ALL of Allah's creations including Women. The sole reason the world is a shitty place and shitty things happen is because people (not only men) do not respect Allah's creation and dont live in this world as guests but rulers..that includes abusing nature, land, women, children etc etc. It is so easy to generalize people based on who you have been around e.g. the women that man has been around who portrayed an image of 'crazy' n 'pms-ing' all ova the plc (according to him) but that does not mean ALL women r incapable of ruling....history has shown us a lot of men are also incapable of ruling and nations fall apart *cough cough* Somalia but nobody calls them out for their gender as being the issue for that fall, they only blame THAT particular man/his policies which should be the way we look at all leaders full stop. Thanks for the vid @SHEEKOSHEEKO xx
In Islam women can not rule. Do your research
+Dahir Karshe clearly u didn't understand what I wrote. An observation does not mean a command. Lol
+ua x I understand that my problem is with some of our people who claim to be Muslims but say woman are capable of being head of state
The elepahant in the room: Islam forbids women governing countries. Imaan and the others argue that they should be because it is the correct, moral argument to make. However, they've yet to address the Islamic argument. Why not?
Because religion is irrelevant in this topic it's what ruined our government and many other nations around us so let's leave that out.
+Lilac Skies you're an actual IDIOT. You literally are
+Lilac Skies Because religion has a specific, clear stance on the subject. It would be pointed out in any sincere discussion, so why not here?
Even if you could convince people like LJ and Thursday on the logical merits of a woman President, they could easily adopt the Islamic point of view. My question is: what would the rebuttal to that be?
+Pdf cry me a river.. I didn't say shit about Islam so why are you mad for? I'm just saying arguing about religion when running a country isn't practical
+Lilac Skies But religion informs the views of many, especially on this specific subject. Whether you agree with it or not, it is probably the most relevant point there is.
i hope his daughter knows better
100% I pray by the will of Allah that she grows up to know her worth, and her sex/gender will not stop her, no matter they systemic or cultural reasoning that tells her otherwise. As proud as we should be of our Somali culture, that should not blind us from seeing the wrong that is fosters aswell, the pushing of woman into the fringes of society, and equating them to housework, etc. he says it won't change, I think other wise
Thursday is too much 😂
I agree with iman
Thursday is entitled to his opinion. tbh unless I am mistaken islam doesn't permit women to be head of states but they are of course permitted senior government positions. I wish somebody had a come back for the who gets fuc*** point he was making. does his wife not pleasure him as in 'make love to him' in a way that caters to his needs? I thought the panel became too shocked to retaliate with a valid comeback to this point of his. love this channel and this debate stuff mainly. love from Iceland xx
there is no reason 2 get personal the man is entitled to his opinion
Iman like you said ''he is an animal sis. lol
+paper new He came up with some stupid excuses tho.
+Maryam Jama Eman does not behave like a lady the way she speaks. They should have let the hijabi sister speak, she has more class. Eman is too wild!
Cushitic Man She is right tho. is that why you don't like her? Who cares again?
Maryam Jama Never said I didn't like her, I just think she doesn't act right. I even agree with her point, but not her delivery.
+Maryam Jama She's emotional just like you. even though the guy is un educated he still won the debate because he proven women are emotional!!!
why am i so late to this? i am ctfu!!!
Thursady made valid points of his opinion(Which I DON'T AGREE WITH, to a certain point) but the girl was making points that didn't really hit his points it was just a bunch of breaking it down to two options or expanding it with assumptions so in terms of logic she was off
Facial expression at 7:13 XDDD , That ladies and gentlemen is a fucking quality meme right there.
This is the worst debate I ever watch from sheeko sheeko presents. I like iman but Iman show respect even to to people who don't deserve it, not as a reflection of their character but a reflection of yours and at the end of the day it's his opinion u can't change it and to be honest with you I have to agree with him at some point cuz there is no way women can be leaders don't forget that we are Muslim and it's Haraam don't be mislead by the western ideas I love my sisters, daughters and my beautiful mom I have to agree with you too at some point cuz Thursday was so harsh with his words and I don't like most of the things he said but that is not the way to talk to people especially when cameras involved. anyway greetings all of you Stay blessed dhamaan
actually i dont know why it became so controversial to say women cant be the president to ask queen buuq at this moment. u have seen how badly our country doing right now and top of that our religion states that when it comes ruling women should behind man what is wrong u guys
eman your educated woman but do some reseach to our islamic deen to give him more proves women use to be leaders by the time of our provet Mahamad scw but this guy only bushing with no points and reasons disgusting he is ignorant let him go bck to school
6:19 SAVAGE LMFAO
Omg I lobe iman
Thursday said 'no woman can rule my life', meaning that in every aspect of his life, so your mum can't rule you? okay, ayeyo? no? okay.
Man what is up how do U think women can’t control the world if U look the history U will see that amazing women also if U look and read the Quran U will see in the Quran it talks about queen.
i realy wanted to listen to a mormal and classy debate but.not a fight and swearing at eachother becaus here iman was just insulting most at the time that was not pleasant maybe thats why men are saying we cannot run the country when we get angry we start swearing and fighting
Si walbo aad umatasho stars ka heer galbeed waxad Ahaan Gabar madowa oo Muslims 😓😌😁😁😁
Thursday sounds ignorant subhanaAllah and Iman needs to CALM down
and faiza is so classy mashaAllah
I agree with his view that woman can't lead, but I don't agree with him as to why.
funnily enough Thursday though his argument wasn't concise was making points dumb founded they may be nonetheless still points. On the other hand u have eeman who just resorted 2 ad hominem attacks which does not help or add 2 the argument one bit. the bro in blue is a cool kat