Another Canadian Boks fan. Was not pretty but this side, led by Siya Kolisi, always seem to find a way. The ABs just seem to have lost a bit of that magic they seem to have shown previously. AB, Boks matches are always classic!!
No shame in losing to that Bok team in their backyard. We pushed them hard and were damn close. I’m actually pretty confident in where we’re at and where we’re heading. Congrats to the Boks.
Agree with you - all the armchair coaches over on the Silverfern forum are losing their minds over these back-to-back losses. ABs can take a lot of positives out of both performances.
Thank you, but all credit must go to our Coach Russie, he is best we have had for many a year, and he knows how to read a game which many coaches ca t do. 3 cheers to Russie
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou I agree. The Springboks are playing good rugby in spite of the mistakes they made. Their defence structures are very good. The All Backs have gone through a difficult time with management and changing coaches etc. The New Zealanders must give them time to get there. It's never easy against the top sides when you are struggling. Many teams over the years have fallen to the ABs now they are experiencing failures. It won't be long before they are at their best.
@@charleschurch4901 I’m not concerned. Things aren’t quite clicking but we’re still pretty dang good and it will come right. A lot of very smart rugby people involved in the ABs. Enjoy the rest of your season.
I wouldn’t be too tough on the ABs. That game could have gone either way. Boks bench and full 23 squad is the difference between the teams and has put pressure on ABs in the last 20mins. Feels great to win 2-0 though as a Boks supporter. Great channel Mark! 💚🇿🇦🏆
@N1ghtCrawler1 when you want to be the best in the world, and you have been for so long, being tough in all areas is what gets you there. The ABs lost the game in the 2nd half, not just final 20mins, with poor game management and execution.
They were lucky there wasn't another 7 points on the board from Eban's try. And lucky not to get a penalty try awarded against them. Great team, but the continual parade of professional fouls and infringements gets laughable after a while.
As a Kiwi I find the ref guilty of being trigger happy and gifting us the first 6 points. No way anybody can get away from the ball that quick, he was blind to the occasion and just too hasty to penalize the Boks in those moments.
@@charlestruter7171 as a bok fan I know I have a bias, but I do feel loke there were some irrational use it and roll away calls in that game. Never seen someone blow quite that quick!
@@charlestruter7171 I agree he was to hasty on the whistle, as a safa the respect I have for the ABs is unmeasurable! What a team and this game like last week was touch and go for both teams! The ABs are looking sharp and I think the foundation Razor is building is great and the proof is evident as the ABs had us under the pump!
I must say as a South African, this channel always has a very fair and well rounded view. The All Blacks are a world class side, steel sharpens steel. Well done to both teams. Can't wait for the next time we play.
From Cape Town. What a hard game with both sides making mistakes but I feel that South Africa were just too strong in the end. South Africa scored the tries and the fact that the Springboks stopped the Ab's from scoring tries says something about their defense. This is the best Springbok team for many a years if not the best.
I said it on another channel ...the boks handling was like they had a butter ball. It was frustrating. Thanks to the AB'S for two entertaining games.. always a pleasure. Boks we love you okes 👍🏻 👌🏻
@insiderugbywithmark I hear you boss. Butter ball both sides or both sides caved a bit under the pressure of the occasion. I thought Pollard & Willie weren't great today either. I take nothing away from DaLende but felt Siya was the deserved player. Thanks once again for an unbiased review when your lads clearly frustrated the hell out of you. Cheers 🍻
@shaunspost This is because they are in the early process of redevelopment in terms of their game, they are clearly being encouraged to attack with the ball in hand & to execute under, at times, enormous pressure, this is a style that comes with errors, but the rewards in the end outweigh the negatives. When Rassie swapped Handre for Sascha at 10, there was alot of chat about the boks reverting back to their kick/pressure/penalty style of game, I watched Handre when he captained the under 20 Springboks to the world title, can't remember what year now, but he was scintillating with the ball in hand & had the nous to also play conservative rugby when necessary. It's scary to think how good they will be come 2027.
LoL. Imagine how shit NZ are. If we handled the ball so badly and yet you still could not win. Great attacking game by nz. A big fat zero tries scored.
Hello Mark, I am a South African living in France.. A Bok fan since a little boy. Love your channel and have subscribed. I cant help thinking that The ABs are a typical team in transition - new coach, new ethos, some new players and that things will come right in time. We certainly have been there. The fact that they still have run us close in the last four games , playing at an intensity few teams in the N H will match shows the ageless class and quality of the magnificent thing called All Black rugby.
Dear Mark Thanks for summary of great game! Well done Bokke! We have the Freedom Cup! Apologies to New Zealand It was tough! Thanks to Springbok supporters in Cape Town! Beautiful sea of green jerseys & painted faces! Amazing day & memories for South Africa! This Springbok team & bomb squad are making supporters happy & proud We appreciate Rassie Erasmus & his team! Well done to them! Regards Annette
Hi Mark, Springbok fan here. I know the ABs are struggling a little bit right now, but I think they remain a force in rugby and are a tough challenge for any team. I think they are doing their best and watching Razor and Scotty get grilled in the presser was sad to see. I think they will get better, and they need their supporters to rally around them. They are still a great team and are awesome to watch!
@dylansimpson4800 thanks so much for the comment. At the end of the day the players on the field need to deliver, and over the last two weeks the players on the field did not, so has to be argued that they are not doing their best. I am happy to write off 2024 BUT we need to see key positional changes and not repeating the same mistakes.
@@dylansimpson4800 I think the ABs are still building. It is a really really young and fairly inexperienced team. New coaching staff as well. Honestly, I think they are building at a rather slow pace but I honestly look forward to 2025. We may be facing a different beast in the ABs!!! Great 2 games!!! ☺️ I’m a Springboks and AB fan! 🫣 (I know I’m about to get crucified because people are going to say it isn’t possible)
@@insiderugbywithmarkI don’t think we should write 2024 off yet. I hope in the northern hemisphere tour we get to see some growth in ABs and maybe a better understanding of the direction Razor is going and maybe settled combinations. Also Cam Roigard will be back in the mix. I feel Razor needs to have honest conversations. I agree Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke are the wing pairing with BB as FB. I feel as though DMac needs BB to help him through. Had to rewatch a few games of this combo pairing. It feels as though BB gives DMac freedom and safety to play an attacking game.
Let's take notes while I listen. Wings: Sevu Reece had a rough game. Telea couldn't get into the game. Jordan didn't have the impact we wanted at fullback. We lost the aerial battle, clearly. That means the back three is not functioning. Jordan was much better on the wing and Clark was awesome last week. So yeah, I agree. MacKenzie High Tackle: there was no malice in it. The SA player slid out down to the ground which affected the height of the tackle. Penalty only (good call). All the yellow cards in the game were correct. The ref did a much better job than the ref last week. Codie Taylor: best All Black on the park today. Leading the way. He was awesome. This is what is needed from our players, this kind of energy. Breakdowns: Vaai was immense today as well. He is stepping up big time. He's one of the bright points. Cortez Ratima and the centres: He was much better than Perenara. DMac seemed much more certain with him and this vanished when Perenara came on. Jordie and Ioane were solid at centre. Ioane was making metres past the gainline and never lost the ball. One of the better players today. Baffling they took him off with the last 15 mins, instead of Reece who was sitting on a yellow card. Poor game management. Penalty Kicks: this was so cowardly. It was the worst way to lose. This shows we have no self belief right now. This has to change or the future is grim. This is not the way we should be chancing our arm. What does it matter if we lose 18-0 or 18-12. We still lost. And if we had some more courage, maybe the result could have been different. Maybe we would have had some self belief those last two minutes. This for me is the hardest thing to swallow about the loss... we just took kicks... Short passing and innaccuracies: yeah, this goes with the lack of self belief. We need our mojo back. This is going to be a really hard year for the boys. Wallis Satiti: enormous debut. THIS is what we need. Let the new blood have their chance. Let the last era pass now. Let's build the new era with only the very best of the old. Bring in Tosi ffs. What impact are you expecting from Tuangafasi exactly? Why is our best number 8 in the country not in the squad getting ABs experience? Why persist with Sam Cane? He's leaving next year. He's too slow in attack. Bench management: Lomax had an awesome game but why was he still on the park at min 65 (when he got his card)? Like what was the bench strategy exactly? And Perenara ... why is he chirping at the refs? Where was our captain to quieten him? Was Scott Barrett even on the park today? Cost us a brilliant attacking opportunity last week and he almost got sent off this week. Beaden Barret ... it's tough. When he's good he's great. When he's not he really is not. I also had no confidence we were gong to pull it out of the bag. Pretty sad. Boks got that belief right now. Deserving of that number 1 spot.
Thanks mark! I’m Fred cadlick from Vancouver BC Canada, love rugby, love the all blacks, their youth and some inexperienced players showed against a very experienced South Africa team, they can’t let it get to them, the experience will come , I think games against Australia now will help this squad for sure!!
AB fan living in Vasse, Western Australia. Great breakdown commentary on the game Mark. Same old story. Discipline, and players being played out of position. The backs ran around like headless chooks' when on attack. No direction whatsoever. Couldn't score a try in this game, as they didn't know where the try line was.
After a long layoff due to injury, I think that we're seeing Marx getting back to his very best. I thought that the momentum really swung the Boks' way, after Marx came on.
We are (AB’s) similar to where the boks were a few years ago, struggling to win crucial moments. It seems to me our backline were bereft of attacking ideas both inside and out wide. Wallace was superb at 6 along with Codie at 2. Congrats to SA what fantastic outfit 👏🏻
Another very comprehensive assessment Mark. We matched them in the forwards with Taylor, Vaa'i and Setiti absolute standouts; there wasn't a starting forward that let the jersey down. Sadly our backs did not fire. Ioane is not a test centre; he is a world class winger. This was a test to forget for Reece and Tele'a. I'm still firm on my position with Jordan as our full back he had limited opportunities with backs not hitting thier strides. Reece was busy apealling to the ref and not focused on Marx; reduced his reaction time and Marx is a dominant ball carrier. This current Boks side is highly intelligent, they have a high degree of cohesion and made less mistakes. Goal kicking at test level is critical; whilst the Boks were better if DMac hit all his goals it would've kept the ABs ticking over and reduce scoreboard pressure on the ABs. I'd like to see ALB and Proctor in the midfield and hopefully Clarke is back from injury. Savea should be skipper; it might help Barrett focus on his role. This was Vaa'i's best test to date he was sensational. Look out for me in the crowd at the Syd test 😊
Agreed. Jordan should stay at Fullback, he didn't really do anything wrong. Sevu Reece has made critical errors since he's been back in the All Blacks, against Argentina and now against South Africa. Unfortunately he's not the winger he was back in 2019 and it seems that he's playing himself out of a jersey. They should 100% recall Emoni Narawa and give him valuable time in the squad/jersey. Although you have to cut Sevu Reece a bit of flack, he was never going to stop Malcom Marx in a one on one tackle. The fault in that try actually lies with TJ Perenara, he moved towards the ruck as it spun around, exposing Sevu Reece. Caleb Clarke will be back for the first test against Australia, same with Ethan Blackadder and maybe even Ethan de Groot and Patrick Tuipolutu, which changes the starting 15 big time. ALB and Proctor deserve a shot in the midfield against Australia, would be interesting if they pull the trigger on that. What people fail to realize is that South Africa didn't beat us up like they do most teams, they don't have the dominance over the All Blacks like their fans think they do. It's only a matter of time before this All Blacks side starts to click, and the rest of the world will know about it when they do.
@@subhuman119 nice one. I certainly agree that Narawa deserves a recall. Poor guy has had a terrible run with injuries. Re the Marx try, the likelyhood of stopping him alone was low to start with and I agree if TJ stayed on the blind together they had a better chance together. Things to learn from. I'm not hitting alarm bells re the two losses. Very low margin and if a couple of passes stuck and the ABs crossed the line or kicked all their shots on goal the results would've gone their way. Credit to the Boks they scored when required and keep scoreboard pressure on with accurate goal kicking. I'd like to see Blackadder and Setiti together with Savea and Cane. I also hope Papali'i & Finau get some time as well. De Groot will bolster propping options and Tuipulotu will be a welcome return and he'll provide guidance to Vaa'i, Lord and Darry.
One thing about the AB's that hasn't change is effort and commitment. They are early in a building fase and they will be back. Personally I think South Africa had some challenges in the past not allowing players who play overseas to play for the Boks. It might be the same for the AB's. Congrats Boks 🇿🇦 very proud of you!!!
Well done to my Bokkies, they were awesome. What I love most about this squad is that no matter whether we're down or up, there is a sense of calm and a "we got this" attitude. Maybe its the huge amount of trust we have in our bench, but the character of this Bok team is something to behold. Hard lyck for NZ, I know they are going to face some harsh criticism, but they went to the world champions' back yard and came away with two games that finished within one converted try. The line between roaring success and dismal failure is paper thin. Can I just also give a shoutout to Argentina who orchestrated a comeback for the ages. I love the Argies and I'm so very proud of them. Given the fact that they still have a (very much) outside chance to win the Rugby Championship, their great win last night certainly have made the Buenos Aires match must-see TV.
The main thing to acknowledge is that it was 2 amazing and intense test matches. With 2 of the best teams in the world - Both teams are trying something different and have not perfected it yet. Saying that - The Springboks just know how to win tight games and will probably go unbeaten for the rest of the year. My biggest disappointment was Sevu Reece. He had a shocker 🙄. With Marx try - Yes TJ should have stayed out, But Sevu should have stayed focused - Rather than drifting in and complaining to the ref. Huge blunders.
Very nice commentary. 👊🏻 Good objective reflection of both sides. Both teams are not where they should and could be. And I agree, the pressure on both sides created this pattern of play! Never the less, the bar has been raised, and the grinding is gruesome! Both teams are always admired!
As a springbok fan I see it as an honor to have beaten the All Blacks four times in a row. The New Zealand team has left me in awe over the years and although I am enjoying what my team are currently achieving I have no doubt that its only a matter of time before the Kiwis are back on top again.
I think we need to trust the bench and actually give game time to the 23 to build experience and confidence. Hopefully, we see Ruben Love and Harry Plummer (or Perofetta when he is. Back). Get some game time as they bring something different to our game plan, and Plummer can execute well. Good luck for the game against the Wallabies. (Yes they lost badly to the Pumas, However the first half was good). And we struggle in the 2nd half as well.
Thank you for your thoughts on todays game. Springboks are also evolving and credit to Rassie for not being afraid to rotate players even though today's game was an important one. Rassie is focused on the next world cup and is not afraid to experiment win or lose. All blacks are a dangerous team and cannot be taken lightly. They need to get more playing time as a new team and build on each other's strengths and weaknesses. Patience is the key.
This Springbok side is not so good at winning. They just don't wanna lose... that's how we won world cup and our success at moment. Great time time to be a bok supporter
100% agree. We not winning these games like our mighty rivals do and have done in the past. A lot of belief but we certainly not as clinical as we can be and as great ABs side have been. I’ll still take it though.
Keep in mind a lot of youngsters are being blooded by the Boks which will bode well for the future and the next generation of big name players. Most teams wait till their oldies to fail before doing that. Boks also expanding the attacking repertoire - winning while doing so is a great result.
I don't care if my Boks aren't playing not to lose rugby.....I'm tired of all the near miss losses, dubious refereeing decisions and players doing the peacock shuffle.....stuff it all if it comes down to a choice between losing and winning ,I don't want to be on the side that's crying in the end,blaming everybody and wanting to fire off the please explain cause decisions didn't go their way....both wins didn't look pretty...but our boys guts it out and took home that cup for the first time in fifteen years... went on and match their seventy five year old record..4 games in a row against the Allblacks.....shit that like winning a world cup ....good job boys....moaners keep moaning
I agree both wingers were VERY average! Far too many mistakes. Jordan has more impact on the wing. I thought Rieko looked threatening on the wing. Sititi and Ratima both played very well. Codie Taylor was impressive
spot on with all your analysis Mark. Put your big wing's back on the field and get your fly half Richie back as well as Shannon Frezel( spelling) ABs will be back...
Very good feedback sir,i hope all the (real) rugby supporters will appreciate this. We need at least a draw or win against Arg. Thanks for the honest summary and God bless you. Andre,S.A.
Hi Mark, I am an ex pat Bok fan living in the UK. I really enjoy your un biased reviews of the game and make a point of watching and now an official subscriber. Keep up the good reviews and rugby being the winner as always!
Yeah I agree with you Mark I think Perenara must really control himself around the ref. This talking back to the ref is not a good look for him, he does more talking than playing on the field and he's not even captain
Its easy to say a teams play was bad, but the guys on the field are the best you can get. This is how the game goes. Sometimes the team who makes the least mistakes wins. The All Blacks are still a force to be reckoned with, but The Bokke's tenacity is a thing of beauty.
This is a very good group of All Black players, the problem lies with the issues going on with top brass of NZ Rugby. Follow what’s going with Mark Robinson and why some key players don’t want to be involved. We had these issues in SA rugby 9-10 years ago and Rassie amongst others changed that. AB’s lacking a why?
@GD-ib1jc thanks for sharing your view. In response I will respectively add. I dont think whether they are a good group of players or not is really the point. A team who aspires to be the best in the world needs to take responsibility for their actions on the field. Every top tier rugby nation has administration issues in their respective nation off the field, and each are dealing with this in their way.
Great Vids, keep them coming Mark. Great to hear you keeping the SA fans grounded, they do get emotional. Realistically, not much in it from an ABs team with a new coaching regime and new players against the World Champs in their back garden. Williams penalty "not use it" call was harsh, seemed like 4-4.5secs.
I think you made a great comment. Alot of the mistakes were made by pressure that came from both teams. So it wasnt that there was a lack of skill I dont think! Two very skillful teams. As a Bok supporter super proud of the performance. Abs...I wonder if Dmac is the person for number 10. Just doesnt seem to have a commanding presence. Otherwise I think you have lots to work with! Thanks for the great review.
Hi Marc, I really injoy your unbiased interpretation of the international games of rugby. Please keep on doing what you are doing. South Africa is on a high at the moment, but other countries will get their chance. I remember when England peaked, as well as All blacks from years gone by. There is also Ireland who are very strong at the moment. Cheers
Hi Mark thank you once again for the great review discussion. Yeah again the All Blacks and the Springboks brings the worst and the best out in each other. A great game and happy the Freedom Cup is back home. For now Rassie outsmarted Razor. How will New Zealand react?
@clibo1 thank you. How will NZ react, changes I hope. Razor prides himself apparently on having honest and hard conversations, I hope that process will start on Monday.
My question: with 3 losses now, why is Scott Robertson not receiving the same horrid treatment by the media and fans that was directed to Ian Foster? Surely the same pressure now applies, as the All Blacks and fans arent accustomed to losing. A few have even stated last year was abysmal, yet the All Blacks made the RWC final! Kiwis are a fickle bunch
Top management in New Zealand Rugby Union wanted Razor in so did a bad move on Fossie by literally kicking him out. Bad leadership running New Zealand rugby.
Razor hasn't been in the job that long so people are still giving him a chance. Two of their losses were to the the world champions away from home which was always going to be a tough ask for a rebuilding team. Certainly if he doesn't do well in the NH later this year, it will be different story.
I like your direct approach and constructive criticism. As a BOK fan, I am enjoying our winning ways at the moment but am well aware of NZ who are in a building phase. The difference between these teams are one or two critical selections. We look forward to the next clash.
Hi thanks for comments. Bok fan living in Agulhas most southern tip of Africa. Satisfied with result but pity for many errors. Best Bok players for me were Siya and Eben and worst player JEssie KRIEL. he do not fit into style Brown want to establish. Rassie managed bench very well. As a team my BOKKE were outstanding despite many errors. Rassie must start working on new midfield combination should they want to play with more speed. Few good new players in NZ side but need to be managed well. Again thanks for your program.
@FinelliDybeen-tk7dt HOLA as a keen sailor I am very familiar with Cape Agulhas and the strong currents. Good point about Jessie Kriel I would be more favored to start Canan Moodie or Lukhanyo Am there to give Tony Brown what he is after, thanks for the great comment
I swear if I hadn't watched this game, all I'd have to do is listen to Mark and picture the game. Great work Mark. I also don't see Scott as Captain material but the newbies in the ABs are impressive✌💚💛🇿🇦
Yip Billy Proctor at 13. Ioane is a Winger. Jordan to go to right wing. Reece and Telea to be dropped. Tungafasi and Aumua to be dropped. Selection needs to be better. Put people in their right positions. Savea to play 7, Blackadder at 6, and Sititi at 8. We need a new 10 and captain.
To me, the following is clear: Time to move on from TJ. Instead: Ratima, Hotham & Fakitava until Roigard gets back. Lets try something new at 10. Dmac has played 54 caps now and STILL isn't test level standard against top tier teams. I want to see Zarn Sullivan called up. Time to change the midfield, specifically Reiko. He hasn't been close to his attacking form when he started his career on the wing and he is a defensive liability, missing a huge amount of tackles this tournament. Let's give Proctor a go. 1 of Tele'a or Reece is fine but both at the same time doesn't work. I'd like to see Caleb Clarke in for his aerial skills and Tavatavanawai brought in for his power. Otherwise Jordan back to the wing, he doesn't have the same prowess as he does on the wing. I don't like Scott Barrett as captain. I think Sam Cane has a better head on him and manages the game better particularly under stressful situations. I saw Cane talking to the ref several times and S. Barrett trotting over 5-10 seconds later. Our attack was horrendous. We had trouble stringing phases together and often ended up all over the show. It was a completely dry day, South Africa missed MANY tackles (18 missed tackles in the 20th minute) and we STILL didn't score a single try. Also, what was going on with the sub-bench. Lomax got left on practically the entire game yet he was clearly exhausted by the 60th minute. Newell is a fine substitution, I don't know why you wouldn't put him on. Something is not going right with our discipline, we are constantly getting carded and especially at the tail-end of games.
Reason for getting carded is players are getting tired and need to make those forced errors which leads to getting carded. I’m not sure if Razor is confident in the bench but needs to rather trust the bench. Timing on bringing them on is also key. But perhaps the bigger issue is the CEO of the All Blacks.
As a Bok supporter I agree. It was strange to me that the Boks almost did not bother that much to contest at the breakdown, players were often isolated from support. This was very disappointing for me but maybe there is a bigger picture that I am missing. I mean the AB’s did not score a try…….when last did the AB’s not get a try in a match?
A good diagnosis of the game Mark ! Yes AB are below par. I hope future South African rugby coaches are taking good note of Rassies coaching and thinking completely out of the box and waving good by to unprofitable tradition. !! ...and adapting instead !
Centurion based Bok supporter. No excuses about the Haka being disrespected, or the Bongi try, the aerie flying over. 2 solid tries, nearly a third against no tries. I was worried we were going to be kicked to death by penalties. Boks then made a statement in the second half. Rassie jou krokodil. Well done Boks and well done to the up and coming Boks. The old Bok jersey in my possession has brightened up considerably.
I agree with your assessment of the leadership. During crunch time, I observed several All Blacks players talking back and arguing with the referee. This behaviour indicates a lack of leadership and clarity within the team, suggesting that Barrett is not effectively fulfilling his role. At some point, we need to consider moving away from relying on the Barrett Brothers as well; they are occupying some key positions that can be filled by other talent. If we continue to lose games this way, we should start developing younger players for these positions and utilising the older players as impactful substitutes. Our backline is too predictable. There is a need for significant changes in the midfield, and it may be time for Sevu Reece to be replaced. South Africa played exceptionally well, and they deserve credit for their performance.
My Team for Australia Ethan De Groot George Bell Tyrell Lomax Scott Barrett Sam Darry 6 Tupou Vaai 8 Wallace Satiti 7 Ardie Savea Cortez Ratima Damien McKenzie Will Jordan Jordie Barrett Billy Proctor Caleb Clarke Rueben Love Bench Tamaiti Williams Cody Taylor Pasalio Tosi Sam Cane Josh Lord Noah Hotham Anton Lennett Brown Beauden Barrett I got Cody on the bench to help the young Pasalio when he comes on....love to see Tamaiti, Pasalio and Cody all come on at the same time(our Triple Threat 👍)
The very obvious and aparent negative about the All Blacks is that they simply don't have the 23 to beat the Springboks. Their bench has consistently proven to struggle and couldn't really score points in the last 20 minutes. Razor didn't even use 3 of the players on the bench against the Boks in Cape Town.
@riyaadrhoda3990 or was it the way they played the last half, not just the last 20mins, decisions over penalties, dropped balls. etc. Thanks for your comment
The bigger issue is NZR not letting Razor have access to all NZs best players. We would have a very experienced and WORDLY 23 if he could access overseas players who aren't living in the NZ rugby silo. I do believe we currently ALMOST have all the players, but that overseas diverse experience brings adaptability and better decisions on the field. NZR need to problem solve this so Razor can have the players he needs while not weakening Super Rugby-it shouldn't be an either/or scenario. They just need to be a bit more creative vs holding the black jersey over everyone's head.
Saffer living in the UK here, nice win for the Boks, well deserved but I’m puzzled by the AB selections. Beaudie should be at 10, should never have been put to 15, even in the days of Moanga, Agree 100% on your wings call, Ione is a wing, not a centre so the balance all wrong behind the forwards. That said, 2 and 6 were very good, the pack did well not to concede more penalties at scrum time and finally, ref had a shocker. One of the worst I have seen for a while, embarrassed for him. Siya for prez…thanks for the channels.
AB supporter from CPT, our attack looked stuttered and lacked follow through. Talea looked for magic when he just needed to offload to his left on an occasion for a clear try. We get into decent positions and look unsure. Again, the skillset is there just lacking the final execution. Defence was massive and positive, once the attack starts clicking, we should see a revived ABs team. Boks played a "'decent'' game, but one can tell the confidence in the individual roles and team as a collective is aligned. Congrats to them and may we continue this rich history of rivalry. lol through tears of joy and sometimes sadness all for the love of the game.
Exciting game , but you only play as well as your opposition allow you to.And the Boks were hungrier and better.This ABS side is still an amazing team.And they will rise from the fire.I agree with your selection problem 100%.And Razor has to make a few changes.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏉
Hello Mark, I'm going to be a little negative about the All Blacks and Razor given how this season started and how it is currently playing out. I understand that a lot of players were done after the world cup, however those that has come through now - only a few showed that they want to play for NZ. When the season started, NZ barely won against England and yes it was due to Barrett and the unknown factor they had at that time. If NZ played a few games prior to that England game, they could've easily lost one, if not both of those games. In the second game against Argentina, they were reacting because they lost and that first half for me never painted a clear picture how they are playing and look to move forward, thus I asked you what exactly are they trying or what are their play style. When Argentina cleaned up in the second half NZ were nowhere, really. In these 2 tests against South Africa, especially the last one, again they were picking a side to react against what happened in the first test. For me, they never looked like a team capable of scoring a try out of general play since South Africa cleaned up after allowing easy tries in the first test. This also showed that maybe getting rid of Leon MacDonald wasn't the best option and maybe Razor needs someone to clash with him and find common ground. An example of this is that South Africa plays the attack that Tony brown brought in, however when needed they change it slightly and fall back on managing the game at key areas. This past weekend, he played again McKenzie with Jordan at the back, 2 completely different players that doesn't compliment each other. If he wanted this to work, he needed Barrett at 10. For some reason Razor is also scared to make big changes, the changes he's made at 9 paid off and I have no idea why he would play people out of position... Sititi of course thats a 8, but you know that. He should have played a 6-2 since the plan was to target the breakdown and that worked extremely well in the first half as well as in the second. They might also need someone else to be captain, Scott Barrett doesn't cut it for me. I've mentioned this previously. McKenzie cannot play under pressure. Rieko isn't a 13. TJ needs to be dropped, he talks so much instead of just doing his job. Slow as well Jordan must stay at wing if he wants to keep McKenzie at 10. Why was Reece even picked? There are other issues too. With the north waiting end of the year, it's a one off game with no option to rectify the previous weeks mistakes. Worst case will be them losing all of those games. if so, where will that place Razor? as well as NZ rugby? We've spoke about losing South Africa in Super rugby and Australia isn't really something you can measure yourself against, given how they're going I can't see them beat a top URC team, or the blues for example. Everyone talks about there's positives, where? NZ are responding to loses, any team will try and be better We've been in this position when we had Alistair Coetzee, he was hyped up but fell short and Razor should open his mouth to the people at the top otherwise NZ rugby will no longer be a powerhouse. That needs to be done Asap.
@TheBuildKingR as always, reading others opinions and thoughts like this one of yours is refreshing for me. If I may, some respectful response. A new All Black coach is always on a hiding to nothing. It took Rassie 6 years to get the Boks to where they are, and they are still work in progress. Razor had to start from ground zero. The perfect storm had just happened. The ABs had lost the World cup final, he had lost the fabric of the team with Whitelock, Retallick, Smith and the driver of the ship Moúnga, all gone. He´s had to deal with many of the inadequacies of the NZ Rugby administration of what most are beyond our simple view I am sure. Razor is also dealing with a very conditioned fan base who expect nothing other than comprehensive wins, something I am seeing in many South African fans today, not satisfied with a win any more, they demand more and more. Winning does this. So to come in as head coach and bring a new group of players and coaches along on the same journey, all the while being examined by one and all across the rugby universe is not an easy task. I am not providing excuses for Razor, I am trying to offer an balance reality check of his world. By the time the Rugby Championship ends I dont believe we will have the answer, we will need to what for the Northern Tour and to see what has transpired from this rocky start and how it all fairs in Europe and the UK. Thank you for your comment
@@insiderugbywithmark Excellent points you made, but if I may. Rassie took over and had 1 year to prepare when he was appointed, there was not much time left to prepare for the world cup. However he was asked if we can win the world cup and he didn't doubt that we cannot, this was for the 2019 world cup. If I may share the interview link it's here: ua-cam.com/video/J0JxHlT3rZw/v-deo.htmlsi=A_EFxXfr3Ar8sJVe In that interview, from what I've picked up is that he's already set plans in place, something Razor should have done, knowing he was the next coach. I understand that some key players were lost, but I don't buy into it that there's not other talented players that cannot man up from the get go. The fullback from the England test where's he? Same with proctor. So if you want to put it that it took Rassie 6 years, perhaps to be consistent between World cups yes, however to win when it matters the most, that's been there since he took over. That said, it's always lovely to have a back and forth on these topics, just shows that we care about our sport. Let's see how the SH hemisphere perform and maybe you can make a lovely the year that was performce videos for each team for us. Chat in tomorrow's video
Great review Mark as always! I feel a lot of the older more experienced players have played themselves out of the squad. It’s high time we bled in some of the new in-form talent. Tosi and Proctor definitely should’ve played in this test. Brilliant effort from the young guns Ratima, Vaa’i and Sititi. Be good to see Love, Narawa and Plummer get a crack, as well as the likes of Kirifi, Lakai, Sotutu, Stevenson etc get the call up.
Great game. The handling errors may be frustrating for us supporters but agree with you Mark, that many of these were a direct result of the speed and intensity of the defensive pressure. Caleb and Jordan definitely back on the wings. The All Blacks are an incredible team, let's remember that both these lasts tests could have gone either way. There was no white wash. Small moments. However the depth of rugby talent in almost all positions for the Springboks is incredible at the moment and the strength of their bench is a big difference to this team compared to almost any other team. I look forward to the next epic meeting between these 2 sides.
Bok fan living in Kamloops, B.C. Canada! Four consecutive wins against the AB’s is quite an achievement, no matter how ugly!
@colinthomson6959 indeed it is, well done and thank you for the comment
Another Canadian Boks fan. Was not pretty but this side, led by Siya Kolisi, always seem to find a way.
The ABs just seem to have lost a bit of that magic they seem to have shown previously. AB, Boks matches are always classic!!
Agree - as an ABs fan it doesn’t matter if it’s pretty or not it’s just winning a your team is great at that (similar to the McCaw era)
Kamloops fan living in New Zealand. Gotta pack the snowboard up and get back there pronto. Love BC!!
Kamloops is an awful place how did you end up there ? Wouldnt going home be a better option ?
No shame in losing to that Bok team in their backyard. We pushed them hard and were damn close. I’m actually pretty confident in where we’re at and where we’re heading. Congrats to the Boks.
Agree with you - all the armchair coaches over on the Silverfern forum are losing their minds over these back-to-back losses. ABs can take a lot of positives out of both performances.
Thank you, but all credit must go to our Coach Russie, he is best we have had for many a year, and he knows how to read a game which many coaches ca t do.
3 cheers to Russie
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou I agree. The Springboks are playing good rugby in spite of the mistakes they made. Their defence structures are very good. The All Backs have gone through a difficult time with management and changing coaches etc. The New Zealanders must give them time to get there. It's never easy against the top sides when you are struggling. Many teams over the years have fallen to the ABs now they are experiencing failures. It won't be long before they are at their best.
I really enjoyed that game. From the Rassie fan club in Bali 🗻🏝️
@@charleschurch4901 I’m not concerned. Things aren’t quite clicking but we’re still pretty dang good and it will come right. A lot of very smart rugby people involved in the ABs. Enjoy the rest of your season.
I wouldn’t be too tough on the ABs. That game could have gone either way. Boks bench and full 23 squad is the difference between the teams and has put pressure on ABs in the last 20mins. Feels great to win 2-0 though as a Boks supporter. Great channel Mark! 💚🇿🇦🏆
@N1ghtCrawler1 when you want to be the best in the world, and you have been for so long, being tough in all areas is what gets you there. The ABs lost the game in the 2nd half, not just final 20mins, with poor game management and execution.
Agree AB’s will grow
They were lucky there wasn't another 7 points on the board from Eban's try. And lucky not to get a penalty try awarded against them. Great team, but the continual parade of professional fouls and infringements gets laughable after a while.
As a Kiwi I find the ref guilty of being trigger happy and gifting us the first 6 points. No way anybody can get away from the ball that quick, he was blind to the occasion and just too hasty to penalize the Boks in those moments.
@charlestruter7171 thanks for sharing that. I don´t talk about the refereeing on my channel, but happy for the audience to go for it.
@@charlestruter7171 as a bok fan I know I have a bias, but I do feel loke there were some irrational use it and roll away calls in that game. Never seen someone blow quite that quick!
@@charlestruter7171 I agree he was to hasty on the whistle, as a safa the respect I have for the ABs is unmeasurable! What a team and this game like last week was touch and go for both teams! The ABs are looking sharp and I think the foundation Razor is building is great and the proof is evident as the ABs had us under the pump!
He was trigger happy. Agree
Totally agree
I must say as a South African, this channel always has a very fair and well rounded view. The All Blacks are a world class side, steel sharpens steel. Well done to both teams. Can't wait for the next time we play.
From Zimbabwe. Great analysis bro. Good win for the Boks!!
@forwardpaunganwa4135 Hola in Zimbabwe, hope all is well, thanks for the comment
From Cape Town. What a hard game with both sides making mistakes but I feel that South Africa were just too strong in the end. South Africa scored the tries and the fact that the Springboks stopped the Ab's from scoring tries says something about their defense. This is the best Springbok team for many a years if not the best.
@charleschurch4901 they were ( Boks) too good, yes. Well done
Best Boks side of the modern era.
I said it on another channel ...the boks handling was like they had a butter ball. It was frustrating. Thanks to the AB'S for two entertaining games.. always a pleasure. Boks we love you okes 👍🏻 👌🏻
@shaunspost thanks for the comment- If you thought that the boks handling was poor, then what do you call New Zealands?
@insiderugbywithmark I hear you boss. Butter ball both sides or both sides caved a bit under the pressure of the occasion. I thought Pollard & Willie weren't great today either. I take nothing away from DaLende but felt Siya was the deserved player. Thanks once again for an unbiased review when your lads clearly frustrated the hell out of you. Cheers 🍻
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This is because they are in the early process of redevelopment in terms of their game, they are clearly being encouraged to attack with the ball in hand & to execute under, at times, enormous pressure, this is a style that comes with errors, but the rewards in the end outweigh the negatives.
When Rassie swapped Handre for Sascha at 10, there was alot of chat about the boks reverting back to their kick/pressure/penalty style of game, I watched Handre when he captained the under 20 Springboks to the world title, can't remember what year now, but he was scintillating with the ball in hand & had the nous to also play conservative rugby when necessary.
It's scary to think how good they will be come 2027.
LoL. Imagine how shit NZ are. If we handled the ball so badly and yet you still could not win. Great attacking game by nz. A big fat zero tries scored.
@@insiderugbywithmark SA had more handling errors. However, handling on both sides left much to be desired.
Hello Mark, I am a South African living in France.. A Bok fan since a little boy. Love your channel and have subscribed. I cant help thinking that The ABs are a typical team in transition - new coach, new ethos, some new players and that things will come right in time. We certainly have been there. The fact that they still have run us close in the last four games , playing at an intensity few teams in the N H will match shows the ageless class and quality of the magnificent thing called All Black rugby.
Dear Mark
Thanks for summary of great game!
Well done Bokke!
We have the Freedom Cup!
Apologies to New Zealand
It was tough!
Thanks to Springbok supporters in Cape Town!
Beautiful sea of green jerseys & painted faces!
Amazing day & memories for South Africa!
This Springbok team & bomb squad are making supporters happy & proud
We appreciate Rassie Erasmus & his team! Well done to them!
Regards
Annette
Congrats Annette, the Boks were too good for us, it's their turn to hold the Freedom cup. We look forward to battling again in 2025.
Hi Mark, Springbok fan here. I know the ABs are struggling a little bit right now, but I think they remain a force in rugby and are a tough challenge for any team. I think they are doing their best and watching Razor and Scotty get grilled in the presser was sad to see. I think they will get better, and they need their supporters to rally around them. They are still a great team and are awesome to watch!
@dylansimpson4800 thanks so much for the comment. At the end of the day the players on the field need to deliver, and over the last two weeks the players on the field did not, so has to be argued that they are not doing their best.
I am happy to write off 2024 BUT we need to see key positional changes and not repeating the same mistakes.
Then again maybe they are doing there best it's just that SA are doing it better
@@dylansimpson4800 I think the ABs are still building. It is a really really young and fairly inexperienced team. New coaching staff as well. Honestly, I think they are building at a rather slow pace but I honestly look forward to 2025. We may be facing a different beast in the ABs!!! Great 2 games!!! ☺️ I’m a Springboks and AB fan! 🫣 (I know I’m about to get crucified because people are going to say it isn’t possible)
@@insiderugbywithmarkI don’t think we should write 2024 off yet. I hope in the northern hemisphere tour we get to see some growth in ABs and maybe a better understanding of the direction Razor is going and maybe settled combinations. Also Cam Roigard will be back in the mix. I feel Razor needs to have honest conversations. I agree Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke are the wing pairing with BB as FB. I feel as though DMac needs BB to help him through. Had to rewatch a few games of this combo pairing. It feels as though BB gives DMac freedom and safety to play an attacking game.
@@Kittz1301The ABs had more caps then the Boks. Poor player selection vs a better team.
Let's take notes while I listen. Wings: Sevu Reece had a rough game. Telea couldn't get into the game. Jordan didn't have the impact we wanted at fullback. We lost the aerial battle, clearly. That means the back three is not functioning. Jordan was much better on the wing and Clark was awesome last week. So yeah, I agree.
MacKenzie High Tackle: there was no malice in it. The SA player slid out down to the ground which affected the height of the tackle. Penalty only (good call). All the yellow cards in the game were correct. The ref did a much better job than the ref last week.
Codie Taylor: best All Black on the park today. Leading the way. He was awesome. This is what is needed from our players, this kind of energy.
Breakdowns: Vaai was immense today as well. He is stepping up big time. He's one of the bright points.
Cortez Ratima and the centres: He was much better than Perenara. DMac seemed much more certain with him and this vanished when Perenara came on. Jordie and Ioane were solid at centre. Ioane was making metres past the gainline and never lost the ball. One of the better players today. Baffling they took him off with the last 15 mins, instead of Reece who was sitting on a yellow card. Poor game management.
Penalty Kicks: this was so cowardly. It was the worst way to lose. This shows we have no self belief right now. This has to change or the future is grim. This is not the way we should be chancing our arm. What does it matter if we lose 18-0 or 18-12. We still lost. And if we had some more courage, maybe the result could have been different. Maybe we would have had some self belief those last two minutes. This for me is the hardest thing to swallow about the loss... we just took kicks...
Short passing and innaccuracies: yeah, this goes with the lack of self belief. We need our mojo back. This is going to be a really hard year for the boys.
Wallis Satiti: enormous debut. THIS is what we need. Let the new blood have their chance. Let the last era pass now. Let's build the new era with only the very best of the old. Bring in Tosi ffs. What impact are you expecting from Tuangafasi exactly? Why is our best number 8 in the country not in the squad getting ABs experience? Why persist with Sam Cane? He's leaving next year. He's too slow in attack.
Bench management: Lomax had an awesome game but why was he still on the park at min 65 (when he got his card)? Like what was the bench strategy exactly? And Perenara ... why is he chirping at the refs? Where was our captain to quieten him? Was Scott Barrett even on the park today? Cost us a brilliant attacking opportunity last week and he almost got sent off this week. Beaden Barret ... it's tough. When he's good he's great. When he's not he really is not.
I also had no confidence we were gong to pull it out of the bag. Pretty sad. Boks got that belief right now. Deserving of that number 1 spot.
@roleinc7204 thanks for scripting my video. ( but for a few minor details) Good stuff.
Perenara chirping because, like Aaron Smith beforehand, feels entitled to tell the ref what to do. More penalties needed to shut this behaviour down
Tosi is a tight head.
All is not lost, a lot of good players to come back.
20/20 hindsight, but pretty much a repeat of what Mark is saying.
Kicking is not Easy in Cape Town wen the South West wind blows.
WELL DONE BOKKE, Last time we beat the AB's 4 times in a row: 1949
@marcobester5444 well done indeed.
Actually that was 6 in a row back in 49,if you count the 2 test SA won in NZ before those 4 and they were back to back series wins at that.
Technically first time ever, because rugby wasn't a professional sport yet in 1949
Agree @@Simonmoke71
Watching you from Myanmar. Proud bok supporter. Enjoy your channel keep it up.
Fat Ox bar?
Another classic. Lots of room for improvements from both sides. Well done Boks
@chandamusambachime5497 yes, indeed, thanks for the comment
Thanks mark! I’m Fred cadlick from Vancouver BC Canada, love rugby, love the all blacks, their youth and some inexperienced players showed against a very experienced South Africa team, they can’t let it get to them, the experience will come , I think games against Australia now will help this squad for sure!!
@user-pl3dq8jk6x Hello Fred in beautiful BC. Hope all is well in your part of the world. Yes, lets see what they do against Australia. Enjoy
Howsit Mark. Saffa here. Tough one for the ABs. Appreciate your work. Would love to see you come over to SA for a Bok vs All Black game
@ndabenhlesibande9008 careful what you wish for......thanks for the comment
AB fan living in Vasse, Western Australia. Great breakdown commentary on the game Mark. Same old story. Discipline, and players being played out of position. The backs ran around like headless chooks' when on attack. No direction whatsoever. Couldn't score a try in this game, as they didn't know where the try line was.
@user-cs6yt3oi9f nice summary, thanks for the comment
After a long layoff due to injury, I think that we're seeing Marx getting back to his very best. I thought that the momentum really swung the Boks' way, after Marx came on.
We are (AB’s) similar to where the boks were a few years ago, struggling to win crucial moments. It seems to me our backline were bereft of attacking ideas both inside and out wide. Wallace was superb at 6 along with Codie at 2. Congrats to SA what fantastic outfit 👏🏻
@jamesward9372 solid comment thank you for making it
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As a bok supporter for me man of the match was Codie Taylor , phenomenal player 👌
@KJTmethod close one between him and Siya I think, thanks for the comment
Stay the course AB . The matches are developing entire team .
@Go_for_it652 thanks for the comment
Well done, Bokke.Super proudly South African🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦. Respect to All Blacks.
Another very comprehensive assessment Mark. We matched them in the forwards with Taylor, Vaa'i and Setiti absolute standouts; there wasn't a starting forward that let the jersey down. Sadly our backs did not fire. Ioane is not a test centre; he is a world class winger. This was a test to forget for Reece and Tele'a. I'm still firm on my position with Jordan as our full back he had limited opportunities with backs not hitting thier strides. Reece was busy apealling to the ref and not focused on Marx; reduced his reaction time and Marx is a dominant ball carrier. This current Boks side is highly intelligent, they have a high degree of cohesion and made less mistakes. Goal kicking at test level is critical; whilst the Boks were better if DMac hit all his goals it would've kept the ABs ticking over and reduce scoreboard pressure on the ABs. I'd like to see ALB and Proctor in the midfield and hopefully Clarke is back from injury. Savea should be skipper; it might help Barrett focus on his role. This was Vaa'i's best test to date he was sensational. Look out for me in the crowd at the Syd test 😊
Agreed. Jordan should stay at Fullback, he didn't really do anything wrong. Sevu Reece has made critical errors since he's been back in the All Blacks, against Argentina and now against South Africa. Unfortunately he's not the winger he was back in 2019 and it seems that he's playing himself out of a jersey. They should 100% recall Emoni Narawa and give him valuable time in the squad/jersey. Although you have to cut Sevu Reece a bit of flack, he was never going to stop Malcom Marx in a one on one tackle. The fault in that try actually lies with TJ Perenara, he moved towards the ruck as it spun around, exposing Sevu Reece.
Caleb Clarke will be back for the first test against Australia, same with Ethan Blackadder and maybe even Ethan de Groot and Patrick Tuipolutu, which changes the starting 15 big time. ALB and Proctor deserve a shot in the midfield against Australia, would be interesting if they pull the trigger on that.
What people fail to realize is that South Africa didn't beat us up like they do most teams, they don't have the dominance over the All Blacks like their fans think they do. It's only a matter of time before this All Blacks side starts to click, and the rest of the world will know about it when they do.
@@subhuman119 nice one. I certainly agree that Narawa deserves a recall. Poor guy has had a terrible run with injuries. Re the Marx try, the likelyhood of stopping him alone was low to start with and I agree if TJ stayed on the blind together they had a better chance together. Things to learn from. I'm not hitting alarm bells re the two losses. Very low margin and if a couple of passes stuck and the ABs crossed the line or kicked all their shots on goal the results would've gone their way. Credit to the Boks they scored when required and keep scoreboard pressure on with accurate goal kicking. I'd like to see Blackadder and Setiti together with Savea and Cane. I also hope Papali'i & Finau get some time as well. De Groot will bolster propping options and Tuipulotu will be a welcome return and he'll provide guidance to Vaa'i, Lord and Darry.
One thing about the AB's that hasn't change is effort and commitment. They are early in a building fase and they will be back. Personally I think South Africa had some challenges in the past not allowing players who play overseas to play for the Boks. It might be the same for the AB's. Congrats Boks 🇿🇦 very proud of you!!!
@adalderson6269 thank you for this solid comment
4 hit ups for 0 metres gained: Scott Barrett's effort.
Yep. Good effort from your captain
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 4 turnovers at the breakdown from the Captain...
Amen to that, we also the upper hand which is depth 🙏
I like when you jump straight into it Mark. Good content mate.
Well done to my Bokkies, they were awesome. What I love most about this squad is that no matter whether we're down or up, there is a sense of calm and a "we got this" attitude. Maybe its the huge amount of trust we have in our bench, but the character of this Bok team is something to behold.
Hard lyck for NZ, I know they are going to face some harsh criticism, but they went to the world champions' back yard and came away with two games that finished within one converted try. The line between roaring success and dismal failure is paper thin.
Can I just also give a shoutout to Argentina who orchestrated a comeback for the ages. I love the Argies and I'm so very proud of them. Given the fact that they still have a (very much) outside chance to win the Rugby Championship, their great win last night certainly have made the Buenos Aires match must-see TV.
The main thing to acknowledge is that it was 2 amazing and intense test matches. With 2 of the best teams in the world - Both teams are trying something different and have not perfected it yet. Saying that - The Springboks just know how to win tight games and will probably go unbeaten for the rest of the year.
My biggest disappointment was Sevu Reece. He had a shocker 🙄.
With Marx try - Yes TJ should have stayed out, But Sevu should have stayed focused - Rather than drifting in and complaining to the ref. Huge blunders.
Gary from Ireland. Enjoy your analysis, Keep it up
@GaryPhillips-k5h Hola Gary in Ireland, thank you sir.
Very nice commentary. 👊🏻 Good objective reflection of both sides.
Both teams are not where they should and could be.
And I agree, the pressure on both sides created this pattern of play!
Never the less, the bar has been raised, and the grinding is gruesome!
Both teams are always admired!
@pieterviljoen1257 thank you for your contribution to the comments section. Great stuff.
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As a springbok fan I see it as an honor to have beaten the All Blacks four times in a row. The New Zealand team has left me in awe over the years and although I am enjoying what my team are currently achieving I have no doubt that its only a matter of time before the Kiwis are back on top again.
I think we need to trust the bench and actually give game time to the 23 to build experience and confidence.
Hopefully, we see Ruben Love and Harry Plummer (or Perofetta when he is. Back). Get some game time as they bring something different to our game plan, and Plummer can execute well. Good luck for the game against the Wallabies. (Yes they lost badly to the Pumas, However the first half was good). And we struggle in the 2nd half as well.
Thank you for your thoughts on todays game. Springboks are also evolving and credit to Rassie for not being afraid to rotate players even though today's game was an important one. Rassie is focused on the next world cup and is not afraid to experiment win or lose. All blacks are a dangerous team and cannot be taken lightly. They need to get more playing time as a new team and build on each other's strengths and weaknesses. Patience is the key.
@kurtfrancis6638 and I thank you very much for sharing your thoughts as well
This Springbok side is not so good at winning. They just don't wanna lose... that's how we won world cup and our success at moment. Great time time to be a bok supporter
100% agree. We not winning these games like our mighty rivals do and have done in the past. A lot of belief but we certainly not as clinical as we can be and as great ABs side have been. I’ll still take it though.
@GarySimonsen thank you for sharing
Keep in mind a lot of youngsters are being blooded by the Boks which will bode well for the future and the next generation of big name players. Most teams wait till their oldies to fail before doing that. Boks also expanding the attacking repertoire - winning while doing so is a great result.
Certainly a team that digs deep when it counts.
I don't care if my Boks aren't playing not to lose rugby.....I'm tired of all the near miss losses, dubious refereeing decisions and players doing the peacock shuffle.....stuff it all if it comes down to a choice between losing and winning ,I don't want to be on the side that's crying in the end,blaming everybody and wanting to fire off the please explain cause decisions didn't go their way....both wins didn't look pretty...but our boys guts it out and took home that cup for the first time in fifteen years... went on and match their seventy five year old record..4 games in a row against the Allblacks.....shit that like winning a world cup ....good job boys....moaners keep moaning
I agree both wingers were VERY average! Far too many mistakes. Jordan has more impact on the wing. I thought Rieko looked threatening on the wing.
Sititi and Ratima both played very well.
Codie Taylor was impressive
@nigelg1029 Reiko made one run on the wing and got penalized for not releasing. Beside that, agree :-)
@@insiderugbywithmark more than he did at centre.
Ola from Chris from Vancouver Canada. Love your channel and your analyses of rugby as a whole.
@Cheffie-q3m Hey Chris in Vancouver, great to have you with us, thanks for the comment and the support. Keep enjoying the great game
spot on with all your analysis Mark. Put your big wing's back on the field and get your fly half Richie back as well as Shannon Frezel( spelling) ABs will be back...
I think your spot on with your analysis of the game . How do you recite the whole game like u got a replay button in your head.
@williamhillman7982 thank you. Its called the old pen and paper. :-)
Very good feedback sir,i hope all the (real) rugby supporters will appreciate this. We need at least a draw or win against Arg. Thanks for the honest summary and God bless you. Andre,S.A.
@AndriesVanWyk-jx8uj thank you kindly and GOOD LUCK.
Hi Mark, I am an ex pat Bok fan living in the UK. I really enjoy your un biased reviews of the game and make a point of watching and now an official subscriber. Keep up the good reviews and rugby being the winner as always!
@deanmoller8288 BRILLIANT, thanks for the sub, truly appreciate it and keep coming back in the comments.
Great analysis, enjoyed every bit of the review!
@kylefrancisco4745 excellent thank you, hope it inspired you to subscribe !
Yeah I agree with you Mark I think Perenara must really control himself around the ref. This talking back to the ref is not a good look for him, he does more talking than playing on the field and he's not even captain
@GeraldMoses-tl3jz thank you for that
I just love your channel, from Wellington, South Africa!!!
@user-pk9jn8qy1u I loved your comment, I used to live in the other Wellington
Congrats Springboks. Best team won.
@maori_brotha they did, yes indeed, Congrats
Its easy to say a teams play was bad, but the guys on the field are the best you can get. This is how the game goes. Sometimes the team who makes the least mistakes wins. The All Blacks are still a force to be reckoned with, but The Bokke's tenacity is a thing of beauty.
Thank you Mark. Appreciate your attention to detail (and passion for the game).
Love your video, great analysis. Great job Bokke they just know how to win, it’s what they do best 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Hey Mark, Thanks for taking the time to give us this great content.
This is a very good group of All Black players, the problem lies with the issues going on with top brass of NZ Rugby. Follow what’s going with Mark Robinson and why some key players don’t want to be involved. We had these issues in SA rugby 9-10 years ago and Rassie amongst others changed that. AB’s lacking a why?
Sounds like the kind of s*** we used to have to experience the South Africans. Feel your pain brother
@GD-ib1jc thanks for sharing your view. In response I will respectively add. I dont think whether they are a good group of players or not is really the point. A team who aspires to be the best in the world needs to take responsibility for their actions on the field. Every top tier rugby nation has administration issues in their respective nation off the field, and each are dealing with this in their way.
What's going on?
This is not a good group of All blacks name 1 who would start in a world 23 today
@philliproberts7294 in the end it’s a team sport, a great team breeds superstars and great players, not the other way around.
Great Vids, keep them coming Mark. Great to hear you keeping the SA fans grounded, they do get emotional. Realistically, not much in it from an ABs team with a new coaching regime and new players against the World Champs in their back garden. Williams penalty "not use it" call was harsh, seemed like 4-4.5secs.
@pi2592 thank you kindly
I think you made a great comment. Alot of the mistakes were made by pressure that came from both teams. So it wasnt that there was a lack of skill I dont think! Two very skillful teams. As a Bok supporter super proud of the performance. Abs...I wonder if Dmac is the person for number 10. Just doesnt seem to have a commanding presence. Otherwise I think you have lots to work with! Thanks for the great review.
@OnlineSuccessCoach thanks for the constructive comment.
Ardie for Captain on Flank, Drop Cane, Sititi is a future star at 8, Need to blood a new 10
@vkeen_observer dont forget the wingers, and centre, and 10
@@insiderugbywithmark yes, move on from the foster era.
Hi Marc, I really injoy your unbiased interpretation of the international games of rugby. Please keep on doing what you are doing. South Africa is on a high at the moment, but other countries will get their chance. I remember when England peaked, as well as All blacks from years gone by. There is also Ireland who are very strong at the moment. Cheers
@albertlouw2147 thank you very much, yes cycles come and go, keep enjoying the rugby and thank you for your support
Hi Mark thank you once again for the great review discussion. Yeah again the All Blacks and the Springboks brings the worst and the best out in each other. A great game and happy the Freedom Cup is back home. For now Rassie outsmarted Razor. How will New Zealand react?
@clibo1 thank you. How will NZ react, changes I hope. Razor prides himself apparently on having honest and hard conversations, I hope that process will start on Monday.
Watching from the home of the World Champions.
@RonaldBartels Good on you, enjoy
My question: with 3 losses now, why is Scott Robertson not receiving the same horrid treatment by the media and fans that was directed to Ian Foster? Surely the same pressure now applies, as the All Blacks and fans arent accustomed to losing.
A few have even stated last year was abysmal, yet the All Blacks made the RWC final! Kiwis are a fickle bunch
Top management in New Zealand Rugby Union wanted Razor in so did a bad move on Fossie by literally kicking him out. Bad leadership running New Zealand rugby.
Razor hasn't been in the job that long so people are still giving him a chance. Two of their losses were to the the world champions away from home which was always going to be a tough ask for a rebuilding team. Certainly if he doesn't do well in the NH later this year, it will be different story.
I like your direct approach and constructive criticism. As a BOK fan, I am enjoying our winning ways at the moment but am well aware of NZ who are in a building phase. The difference between these teams are one or two critical selections. We look forward to the next clash.
Hi thanks for comments. Bok fan living in Agulhas most southern tip of Africa. Satisfied with result but pity for many errors. Best Bok players for me were Siya and Eben and worst player JEssie KRIEL. he do not fit into style Brown want to establish. Rassie managed bench very well. As a team my BOKKE were outstanding despite many errors. Rassie must start working on new midfield combination should they want to play with more speed. Few good new players in NZ side but need to be managed well. Again thanks for your program.
@FinelliDybeen-tk7dt HOLA as a keen sailor I am very familiar with Cape Agulhas and the strong currents. Good point about Jessie Kriel I would be more favored to start Canan Moodie or Lukhanyo Am there to give Tony Brown what he is after, thanks for the great comment
I swear if I hadn't watched this game, all I'd have to do is listen to Mark and picture the game. Great work Mark. I also don't see Scott as Captain material but the newbies in the ABs are impressive✌💚💛🇿🇦
Thanks for the insightful analysis. We watched to the north from you in Sao Paulo. Tchau to TJ.
Fair analysis from a Kiwi 💯you always on point and honest.
@nagibmohamed6114 thank you. Rugby first, All Blacks second.. :-)
Caleb Clarke, Reko Ioane, Will Jordan as the back three. Barret, Proctor at centre.
@ryanking8960 had me until Jordan.
Yip Billy Proctor at 13. Ioane is a Winger. Jordan to go to right wing. Reece and Telea to be dropped. Tungafasi and Aumua to be dropped. Selection needs to be better. Put people in their right positions. Savea to play 7, Blackadder at 6, and Sititi at 8. We need a new 10 and captain.
@@insiderugbywithmark Jordan is a great player, but he is under done at fullback due to injury.
@@lorrykaltabang6213 de Groot and taukeiaho to come back shortly.
Three quarter line I’d like to see tried ,
11.clarke 14. Jordan 15. Love. 13. Proctor 22. Reiko
Excellent commentary. Fair and balanced. Thank you.
To me, the following is clear:
Time to move on from TJ. Instead: Ratima, Hotham & Fakitava until Roigard gets back.
Lets try something new at 10. Dmac has played 54 caps now and STILL isn't test level standard against top tier teams. I want to see Zarn Sullivan called up.
Time to change the midfield, specifically Reiko. He hasn't been close to his attacking form when he started his career on the wing and he is a defensive liability, missing a huge amount of tackles this tournament. Let's give Proctor a go.
1 of Tele'a or Reece is fine but both at the same time doesn't work. I'd like to see Caleb Clarke in for his aerial skills and Tavatavanawai brought in for his power. Otherwise Jordan back to the wing, he doesn't have the same prowess as he does on the wing.
I don't like Scott Barrett as captain. I think Sam Cane has a better head on him and manages the game better particularly under stressful situations. I saw Cane talking to the ref several times and S. Barrett trotting over 5-10 seconds later.
Our attack was horrendous. We had trouble stringing phases together and often ended up all over the show. It was a completely dry day, South Africa missed MANY tackles (18 missed tackles in the 20th minute) and we STILL didn't score a single try.
Also, what was going on with the sub-bench. Lomax got left on practically the entire game yet he was clearly exhausted by the 60th minute. Newell is a fine substitution, I don't know why you wouldn't put him on.
Something is not going right with our discipline, we are constantly getting carded and especially at the tail-end of games.
Im in the process of watching your video now, but I am glad we are seeing many of the same problems Mark. I thought I was going insane here.
Reason for getting carded is players are getting tired and need to make those forced errors which leads to getting carded. I’m not sure if Razor is confident in the bench but needs to rather trust the bench. Timing on bringing them on is also key. But perhaps the bigger issue is the CEO of the All Blacks.
Great impartial commentary on the game and well presented insight.
@lukasrautenbach2630 thank you kindly, appreciate it
Tough watch this morning in NZ. Onwards and upwards!
Go to church.
You'll feel better.
Richie will be back at 10. De Groot will be great in ' 27
NZ were brilliant at the breakdown
@immortal5626 they were indeed.
As a Bok supporter I agree. It was strange to me that the Boks almost did not bother that much to contest at the breakdown, players were often isolated from support. This was very disappointing for me but maybe there is a bigger picture that I am missing. I mean the AB’s did not score a try…….when last did the AB’s not get a try in a match?
@@GerryComninos-sc2pb every single time a bok player even looked at the breakdown carly penalised them. Better to just stay away
Great Summary Mark. Game management by the All Blacks was not great but they will come back. Very good Soputh Africa !!
@lonmtongana2186 thank you
The main difference is the superior replacement bench the Boks have. They also have momentum and the ability to come back from losing a game.
Very good summary Mark - excellent insight.
A good diagnosis of the game Mark ! Yes AB are below par.
I hope future South African rugby coaches are taking good note of Rassies coaching and thinking completely out of the box and waving good by to unprofitable tradition. !! ...and adapting instead !
@johnmichaux616 thank you kindly
Centurion based Bok supporter. No excuses about the Haka being disrespected, or the Bongi try, the aerie flying over. 2 solid tries, nearly a third against no tries. I was worried we were going to be kicked to death by penalties. Boks then made a statement in the second half. Rassie jou krokodil. Well done Boks and well done to the up and coming Boks. The old Bok jersey in my possession has brightened up considerably.
Agree wirh you there in Centurion.
The Boks just have too many Course of Action, as proven. Rassie and Team have plenty arsenal.
@skisikivou8624 and if I may, the handling of pressure is way better
Great review Mark. I feel for the ABs, tough day at the office. I wish you could take over The Breakdown and bring some balanced commentary lol
As an All Blacks supporter this loss really hurts but i know the team is in that rebuilding phase, they will get stronger and better.
@Swannyjoe464 EXACTLY, solid comment thank you.
S. African living in NZ, very tight game ,thats what makes rugby
@lawrencekleyn3914 Hola bokke in NZ, hope all is well. Well done and congrats on this weekend and last weekend
I think the ABs lost the first test running out of steam in the last half an hour due to the high altitude in the Transvaal, just my opinion
I agree with your assessment of the leadership. During crunch time, I observed several All Blacks players talking back and arguing with the referee. This behaviour indicates a lack of leadership and clarity within the team, suggesting that Barrett is not effectively fulfilling his role. At some point, we need to consider moving away from relying on the Barrett Brothers as well; they are occupying some key positions that can be filled by other talent. If we continue to lose games this way, we should start developing younger players for these positions and utilising the older players as impactful substitutes. Our backline is too predictable. There is a need for significant changes in the midfield, and it may be time for Sevu Reece to be replaced. South Africa played exceptionally well, and they deserve credit for their performance.
My Team for Australia
Ethan De Groot
George Bell
Tyrell Lomax
Scott Barrett
Sam Darry
6 Tupou Vaai
8 Wallace Satiti
7 Ardie Savea
Cortez Ratima
Damien McKenzie
Will Jordan
Jordie Barrett
Billy Proctor
Caleb Clarke
Rueben Love
Bench
Tamaiti Williams
Cody Taylor
Pasalio Tosi
Sam Cane
Josh Lord
Noah Hotham
Anton Lennett Brown
Beauden Barrett
I got Cody on the bench to help the young Pasalio when he comes on....love to see Tamaiti, Pasalio and Cody all come on at the same time(our Triple Threat 👍)
The very obvious and aparent negative about the All Blacks is that they simply don't have the 23 to beat the Springboks. Their bench has consistently proven to struggle and couldn't really score points in the last 20 minutes. Razor didn't even use 3 of the players on the bench against the Boks in Cape Town.
@riyaadrhoda3990 or was it the way they played the last half, not just the last 20mins, decisions over penalties, dropped balls. etc. Thanks for your comment
The bigger issue is NZR not letting Razor have access to all NZs best players. We would have a very experienced and WORDLY 23 if he could access overseas players who aren't living in the NZ rugby silo. I do believe we currently ALMOST have all the players, but that overseas diverse experience brings adaptability and better decisions on the field. NZR need to problem solve this so Razor can have the players he needs while not weakening Super Rugby-it shouldn't be an either/or scenario. They just need to be a bit more creative vs holding the black jersey over everyone's head.
Bok fan living in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada! Visiting Cancun later this month ❤
Saffer living in the UK here, nice win for the Boks, well deserved but I’m puzzled by the AB selections. Beaudie should be at 10, should never have been put to 15, even in the days of Moanga, Agree 100% on your wings call, Ione is a wing, not a centre so the balance all wrong behind the forwards. That said, 2 and 6 were very good, the pack did well not to concede more penalties at scrum time and finally, ref had a shocker. One of the worst I have seen for a while, embarrassed for him. Siya for prez…thanks for the channels.
AB supporter from CPT, our attack looked stuttered and lacked follow through. Talea looked for magic when he just needed to offload to his left on an occasion for a clear try. We get into decent positions and look unsure. Again, the skillset is there just lacking the final execution. Defence was massive and positive, once the attack starts clicking, we should see a revived ABs team. Boks played a "'decent'' game, but one can tell the confidence in the individual roles and team as a collective is aligned. Congrats to them and may we continue this rich history of rivalry. lol through tears of joy and sometimes sadness all for the love of the game.
@commandomikegaming1269 all for the love of the game, spot on, thank you for your contribution
Good.playing.go.bokke.go.
@SameulWilliamson-k7j indeed
Brutal but honest review.
And a brilliant review, you definitely saw the same game that I saw.
Exciting game , but you only play as well as your opposition allow you to.And the Boks were hungrier and better.This ABS side is still an amazing team.And they will rise from the fire.I agree with your selection problem 100%.And Razor has to make a few changes.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏉
@heathcharsley5429 no doubt at all, beaten by a better team on the day, and last weekend.Thank you for the comment
Absolutely Caleb Clarke easily the inform wing .....👍🇳🇿
@brianlawrence9732 there you go
I thought S. Barret was pretty quiet as captain at this level, Ardie and Sam Cane were doing a good job managing the ref.
Hello Mark,
I'm going to be a little negative about the All Blacks and Razor given how this season started and how it is currently playing out.
I understand that a lot of players were done after the world cup, however those that has come through now - only a few showed that they want to play for NZ.
When the season started, NZ barely won against England and yes it was due to Barrett and the unknown factor they had at that time. If NZ played a few games prior to that England game, they could've easily lost one, if not both of those games.
In the second game against Argentina, they were reacting because they lost and that first half for me never painted a clear picture how they are playing and look to move forward, thus I asked you what exactly are they trying or what are their play style. When Argentina cleaned up in the second half NZ were nowhere, really.
In these 2 tests against South Africa, especially the last one, again they were picking a side to react against what happened in the first test. For me, they never looked like a team capable of scoring a try out of general play since South Africa cleaned up after allowing easy tries in the first test. This also showed that maybe getting rid of Leon MacDonald wasn't the best option and maybe Razor needs someone to clash with him and find common ground. An example of this is that South Africa plays the attack that Tony brown brought in, however when needed they change it slightly and fall back on managing the game at key areas.
This past weekend, he played again McKenzie with Jordan at the back, 2 completely different players that doesn't compliment each other.
If he wanted this to work, he needed Barrett at 10.
For some reason Razor is also scared to make big changes, the changes he's made at 9 paid off and I have no idea why he would play people out of position... Sititi of course thats a 8, but you know that.
He should have played a 6-2 since the plan was to target the breakdown and that worked extremely well in the first half as well as in the second.
They might also need someone else to be captain, Scott Barrett doesn't cut it for me.
I've mentioned this previously.
McKenzie cannot play under pressure.
Rieko isn't a 13.
TJ needs to be dropped, he talks so much instead of just doing his job. Slow as well
Jordan must stay at wing if he wants to keep McKenzie at 10.
Why was Reece even picked?
There are other issues too.
With the north waiting end of the year, it's a one off game with no option to rectify the previous weeks mistakes.
Worst case will be them losing all of those games. if so, where will that place Razor? as well as NZ rugby?
We've spoke about losing South Africa in Super rugby and Australia isn't really something you can measure yourself against, given how they're going I can't see them beat a top URC team, or the blues for example.
Everyone talks about there's positives, where? NZ are responding to loses, any team will try and be better
We've been in this position when we had Alistair Coetzee, he was hyped up but fell short and Razor should open his mouth to the people at the top otherwise NZ rugby will no longer be a powerhouse. That needs to be done Asap.
@TheBuildKingR as always, reading others opinions and thoughts like this one of yours is refreshing for me. If I may, some respectful response.
A new All Black coach is always on a hiding to nothing. It took Rassie 6 years to get the Boks to where they are, and they are still work in progress.
Razor had to start from ground zero. The perfect storm had just happened. The ABs had lost the World cup final, he had lost the fabric of the team with Whitelock, Retallick, Smith and the driver of the ship Moúnga, all gone.
He´s had to deal with many of the inadequacies of the NZ Rugby administration of what most are beyond our simple view I am sure.
Razor is also dealing with a very conditioned fan base who expect nothing other than comprehensive wins, something I am seeing in many South African fans today, not satisfied with a win any more, they demand more and more. Winning does this.
So to come in as head coach and bring a new group of players and coaches along on the same journey, all the while being examined by one and all across the rugby universe is not an easy task. I am not providing excuses for Razor, I am trying to offer an balance reality check of his world.
By the time the Rugby Championship ends I dont believe we will have the answer, we will need to what for the Northern Tour and to see what has transpired from this rocky start and how it all fairs in Europe and the UK.
Thank you for your comment
@@insiderugbywithmark Excellent points you made, but if I may.
Rassie took over and had 1 year to prepare when he was appointed, there was not much time left to prepare for the world cup. However he was asked if we can win the world cup and he didn't doubt that we cannot, this was for the 2019 world cup. If I may share the interview link it's here: ua-cam.com/video/J0JxHlT3rZw/v-deo.htmlsi=A_EFxXfr3Ar8sJVe
In that interview, from what I've picked up is that he's already set plans in place, something Razor should have done, knowing he was the next coach.
I understand that some key players were lost, but I don't buy into it that there's not other talented players that cannot man up from the get go.
The fullback from the England test where's he? Same with proctor.
So if you want to put it that it took Rassie 6 years, perhaps to be consistent between World cups yes, however to win when it matters the most, that's been there since he took over.
That said, it's always lovely to have a back and forth on these topics, just shows that we care about our sport. Let's see how the SH hemisphere perform and maybe you can make a lovely the year that was performce videos for each team for us.
Chat in tomorrow's video
I respect your analysis. You are an astute observer. I agree about Scott Barrett. The AB's will improve with Savea as captain and at no. 7.
@kevinrombouts3027 thank you for the acknowledgement and comment
As rules changed around the lineout maules, South Africa now converts it to pick and go on the opponents line which works well.
Goeie Bespreking Mark! Dit was n tawwe wedstryd en baie foute aan albei kante! Ons 23 spelers is die verskil!(Springbokke).Groete uit Lima Peru!
@toscabrutus1781 23 too good
Great review Mark as always! I feel a lot of the older more experienced players have played themselves out of the squad. It’s high time we bled in some of the new in-form talent. Tosi and Proctor definitely should’ve played in this test. Brilliant effort from the young guns Ratima, Vaa’i and Sititi. Be good to see Love, Narawa and Plummer get a crack, as well as the likes of Kirifi, Lakai, Sotutu, Stevenson etc get the call up.
South Africa played really well for a change, they looked better with the ball in hand than the All Blacks.
@joe-jg4bh they did indeed, thank you for the comment
One of those days where Richie was missed dearly.
Kolbe's near try was actually from a lineout steal, not a kick.. Hence the gap close to the lineout.. Was a close one..
@ajayc641 GOTCHA yes, indeed, thanks
Great review Mark!
Great game. The handling errors may be frustrating for us supporters but agree with you Mark, that many of these were a direct result of the speed and intensity of the defensive pressure. Caleb and Jordan definitely back on the wings.
The All Blacks are an incredible team, let's remember that both these lasts tests could have gone either way. There was no white wash. Small moments. However the depth of rugby talent in almost all positions for the Springboks is incredible at the moment and the strength of their bench is a big difference to this team compared to almost any other team. I look forward to the next epic meeting between these 2 sides.
As an Ireland fan living in Dublin I enjoy your comments good match
The Boks also make mistakes but at the end they were the better team weldone guys proud of use🇿🇦
@MarcellePotberg spot on thank you for the comment
Good hearing your view. ABs are all ova da place.
@chrispeteru8217 thank you, they are a little for now, but they will be back