Three minutes of Ivy League heads refusing to condemn calls for genocide of Jews
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2023
- The university presidents of Harvard, MIT and UPenn received an intense grilling from US congresswoman Elise Stefanik during a hearing investigating antisemitism on college campuses.
Congresswoman Stefanik, a Harvard alumnus, asked university presidents about tackling antisemitism on campuses during a Committee on Education & the Workforce hearing on Tuesday.
In her final line of questioning, Ms Stefanik pressed the academic heads about whether calling for the genocide of Jews violates their codes of conduct on bullying and harassment.
The presidents declined to label such calls as bullying and harassment, stating it depended upon the "context" and whether it had translated into actionable behaviour.
"It does not depend on the context the answer is yes, and this is why you should resign. These are unacceptable answers across the board," Ms Stefanik said.
If you substituted the word jew, for black,or gay,or trans,or any other catergory of people, these three women would have no problem condeming that speech, just goes to show the absolute hypocrocy of the political left/academia
Yep totally agree
They are all shameful hypocrites.
Old Cis White Man is accepted as ok to ridicule in both camps. Never say Young Black Lesbian Women ...Or else!..
Yup. I love how these liberal academics all of a sudden discovered the importance of free speech
Exactly!!!!!
It's sad that calling for the genocide of a race is not consider harassment and violence but calling someone by the wrong pronoun is...
Let's ignore the thousands of palestinian children that were tortured and killed just in the past few weeks. Apparently demanding that jews stop murdering palestinian children and stealing palestinian land is "calling for genocide". This is some of the most deceptive narrative twisting in the history of the planet. Literally straight out of 1984
Questioner could have made a different point in the face of the constant regurgitation of the concept of " context " ...could have asked if calls for the elimination of women might be considered triggering or harassment or bullying .
Absolutely 💯. This is ridiculous and stunning.
Am I missing something here? "It depends on the context" is literally a perfectly valid blanket stance to have about judging any speech someone makes. Where is the complaint? Or is this another example of the right being irrational morons who abandon their own moral skeleton as soon as its turned back around onto their own principle? You can't whine that context matters for speech 85% of the time, but that with 15% of statements the context doesn't matter; freedom of speech must always be a zero-sum game, otherwise it undermines the purpose of itself
@@chickensandwichman5443
What if "Jew" were replaced with "black" or "gay" or "trans" in this argument ? Do you think that their answer would be the same ?
I think not !!!!!
These women have no shame. They must be fired from their positions.
The smirking of these monsters is disgusting!
Not Only from position.. they must not get any jobs at any cost anywhere
These 3 presidents are absolutely sickening....
@daniellavicuna4308bassem says multiple times in the interview that he is not an expert on this issue, in fact he says it evertime piers asks him a relevant hard question, I would take his advice, dont listen to his bs
My 🤯
he said his not a military expert how is that BS?? he just said that the solution of the blood thirsty IDF is not human and cruel@@itayr15
It's not just them. In the western world academia is full of left wingers that romanticize terrorism. Furthermore I'm sure that if it had been the other way around they would not have had a problem giving an unambiguous answer to the lady.
@daniellavicuna4308 you keep recommending that talk like Bassam known anything he is talking about... nearly everything he said was wrong... Zionism is simply acknowledging that the Jews have the right for their own country in the land they are native of...
the "Palestinians" are Arabs migrants that came from Syria, Jordan and Egypt - and they were braught by the ottoman empire and than by the british empire, only to stop and fight the jews that did immigrate (from the Arab countries surrounding Israel first, and than from the jews that came from the rest of the world - before we the jews, decided the create the zionism aspiration of returning to our homeland).
But Jews inhibited the land continuously for 3500 years.
they Are the natives, they tried to live in peace next to the arabs, but the arabs were the one that attacked Israel at the same day they declared independence (and many many times before).
My family lives on this land for more than thirteen generations.
And even though, Israel offered so many times a peace deal and a two state solution, and everytime they answered with more violence, they don't want a Palestinians state, they don't want to see the jews have their own state.
they want us to pay them the Jizya and to humiliate us.
But that time is over, Israel is not going anywhere, we the Jews will not pay the Jizya anymore.
and after the 7th of october massacre, we will never offer them a palestinians state again.
They raped women until them bled to death! they raped women until their pelvis was broken and they can't close their legs anymore! they raped little kids!
after killing a mother, they gauged her kid's eyes in front of his father, they pulled the kid's nails one by one, they amputated the kid's ear, fingers and one of his foot, and after that they shot the kid at the couch until he was dead they released the father and told him "now go and live your life" - my brother and I evacuated that father.
they raped women and shot them in the head while continuing to rape them!
they ripped and cut women breasts while they're still alive!
they ate people's hearts!
they beheaded babies, children, women and men!
the time we were nice to the Palestinians is over, we won't give them OUR water, we won't supply them with OUR electricity, we will not treat them in OUR hospitals, we will not supply them with OUR medicines, we will not supply them with OUR fuel and we will not supply them with OUR food.
they can drink salt water or urine and eat their own shit to survive for all we care now.
the time we were nice and humane is over, they can begg the UN or their arab and muslim brothers in other nations.
"It depends on the context." Wow. This is absolutely revolting.
Sky news counts on you being stupid and not thinking for yourself. Why is the first part of the clip, the context of the exchange, left out..?
Did Hitler do wrong? It depends on the context. Oh.
All said with that gleeful treacherous smirk.
They are terrorists.. they will smirk and be cowards
Well job should depend on the context and the context is out of line.
Way to go congresswoman!!!💪🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Honestly, as an Israeli MSc student who had always admired and respected those institutions, this is truly heartbreaking.
Sadly, you had to find out the hard way..... that the Beginning of Wisdom is Reverence for the Almighty (The Lord). All you needed to see through Harvard's veil of lies was to read this in the Book of Psalms (Tehillim). There is no Fear of G-d at Harvard.
@@dovbarleib3256 My how things have changed over the years. And we were once wise enough, or more specifically our Representatives were wise enough not to ban prayer in schools.
Hello Israeli student many of us are horrified. We have your back ❤️
@@shrimpie202 ❤️
why are you surprised? they're woke and leftists. hello?
that's what leftists do. no surprise there. They allign themselves with either islamist terrorists or marxists. it's pretty much guaranteed.
Shameful, These Ladies are Evil.
Describing these revolting people as 'Ladies' is an insult to all the Ladies out there.
@@zooropa5722 Anyone Going through the Interview, Would Understand, Which Ladies are these Comments Attributed too.
2 Timothy 3:6
“For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,”
Do not call them ladies, please !!!!!
I’m Jewish and absolutely disgusted with rich Jews who donate millions of dollars to these antisemitic colleges without even checking out what they actually teach young people and credentials of professors and administration .
You just perpetuated a anti-semitic trope. Aka 'Rich Jews and their money control things' are you really Jewish?
You must not be following. Tons have withdrawn their support. It has made headlines.
@@saraleigh5336 I’m following, better later than never , unfortunately damage has been done already. Too little too late. Now it will take much more money and much longer to fix it.
Don’t worry Ed. Many are ending funding
Hopefully the withdrawal of support from these cesspit institutions is only just beginning.@@saraleigh5336
I don’t like politics and believe these hearings are a show. But the voice of this congresswoman broke at some point and you could feel she was indeed horrified by the answers, as most of us were. Totally disgusting.
For once these hearings were NOT a show they were very necessary. We should be holding more hearings instead of es doing into Netflix
Yeah it's a show that needs to be seen. Lets us see how horrible these people are.
well those schools get a gazillon in federal money. Harvard even kicked the military off campus for "homophobia" when now LBGQTQIA+ SCOTUS justice Kagan was president.
The presidents should resign or be forced to resign. Concrete action should be taken to get them out of office. They are a disgrace.
How about the actual and systematic genocide of the Palestinians?
Action based on what? Because you don't like what people said? Because under the bullying and harassment policy saying "globalize the intifada" and "from the river to the sea" are not bullying or harassment? Harvard's policy for bullying and harassment is online. You can read it. It specifically states that bullying and harassment has to be directed at an individual.
It's generalized, and to be frank it is the same as the chant "by any means necessary".
By any means necessary implies all means including violence should be used to expand civil rights for black Americans. Yet it wasn't directed at any individual person and was protected speech.
There's an inconvenient truth in this country that hate speech is protected speech. These schools code of conduct can not supersede/replace the constitution
This is horrible, especially in the United States, now we know where NOT to send our children and our money. GO Congresswoman Stefanik!
She's vile. Confected outrage
We already wasted $billions on Ukraine. Now we should waste $billions on a country that has a good economy and universal (government funded) healthcare while we have people going bankrupt from medical debt, losing their homes and living under (crumbling) bridges?
@daniellavicuna4308Yousef is a psychopath.
Yeah, could you imagine paying $80,000 a year to send your kid to Harvard and have them educated by these turkeys??
You realize this is the definition of government censorship, right?
You go Congresswoman! Finally, someone who takes college antisemitism seriously.
Shine the light on this darkness. Show the world who these people really are. Thank you Ms Stefanik!
QS 9 : 29
Fight against those ( jews and non muslims) who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islam] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.
On the authority of Abdullah ibn Umar (ra):
The Messenger of Allah said, "I have been ordered to fight against the people until they testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and until they establish the salah and pay the zakat. And if they do that then they will have gained protection from me for their lives and property, unless [they commit acts that are punishable] in Islam, and their reckoning will be with Allah." [Bukhari & Muslim]
bunch of bullshit, they want to suppress free speech here in america
@@tanimaju5446 blah, blah, blah. Whatever your religion I will respect your right however, I am against antisemetism no matter your religion. I am not shoving my Christianity down your throat and would appreciate if you keep Allah, islam, and muslim religion to yourself.
@@tanimaju5446this is not the 7th century, leave this crap
I showed this to some friends. They took the side of the professors, and said they were just trying to give nuanced answers to a bullying congresswoman. I am so at a loss. I'm rewatching the video, trying to fathom how someone could watch this and think that. How is a nuanced answer acceptable here!? As much as I staunchly support free speech, threats of violence are, and always have been, and always will be, an exception.
Your friends are obviously Jew haters. By their fruits you shall know them!
@AlexReynard, lol that’s just sad. Your friends are just as smooth brained as those Ivy League presidents are.
@@mrrickstur No, they're not stupid. At all. That's the problem. When uniformed, high IQ, very sensitive people hear or see something gut-wrenchingly terrible, the impulse is to try and explain it away, so they don't have to face the fact that reality could be so awful. The smarter someone is, the more able they are to come up with reasons why the reality in front of their face isn't actually real.
@@AlexReynard that just sounds like delusion, not smarts
Intelligent people can see through their own vices and biases
Because there's an inconvenient fact in this country that hate speech is protected speech under the first amendment. These schools code of conduct can not replace or supercede the constitution. They have anti-bullying policies but the offenses have to be specific to individuals and space.
This is one of the most horrifying pieces of video I have ever seen in my life.
So misgendering is horrible violence but calling for genocide of jews is not even harassment.
It needs to be directed at Jewish students to be harassment. That doesn’t mean it’s better or worse than harassment, just that it’s not harassment.
@@maryeverett2266 When you are calling for genocide of Jews it refers to ALL Jewish people including students of these universities. You advocate natis ideology.
@@maryeverett2266
Making a campaign/speech about genocide your race just because you exist is harrassment, bruh stop making impossible mental gymnastics.
Silent is golden, keep your wild thoughts to yourself if you dont want consequences. Action have consequences, words too. Damn, why do i have to explain this.
@@maryeverett2266God bless Israel 🇮🇱
@@maryeverett2266 no no no, if you make speeches or slogans of antisemitism and genocidal incitement ON CAMPUS property, that is grounds for expulsion. Why on earth would it matter if it’s ‘directed at someone’ I’m pretty sure it’s directed at the whole Jewish student body to hear! But anyway, if it’s said on campus property, that IS a hate speech violation of campus policies!
How is this such a hard question for them to answer? This is very disturbing
Replace the word JEW with BLACK and they would be SCREAMING their response . STATIST LOONS
Very, very disturbing.
Answer around the bush , denial stage
Well look at them!!!! Americans dont do a damn thing.
They all have disturbing face and character
Disgusting testimony given by these university presidents, sack them all. Well spoken Ms Stefanik, thank you for your integrity.
These university administrators set the precedent that calling for human genocide on university campus is perfectly fine by them and their policies. Deplorable.
Here's what government does: "Let's fund this disgusting war in Palestine where innocent children and families are being bombed." Same congresspeople say, "that hate speech and what the university administrators are doing is absurd." Yeah, I'm against all of the hate speech, but I'm not going to listen to Congress lecturing me. They're hypocrites!
Absolutely astonishing. I’m speechless. Those three spineless university leaders should resign today.
They should not resign they should go to prison.
Maybe the Arab nations pay them well enough to be corrupted morally.
@daniellavicuna4308 I guess we need context for the “genocide” in Palestine then too right?
@@DIRTYBOOKQURANno we don't.
@@YESHUAISLORD22 I don’t see any evidence.
Disgraceful. These women should resign.
They should go to Gaza.
They should be sacked.
no surprise here. feminism / wokeism / relativism all in one. no such thing as 'moral backbone' this was done away with years ago.
So true
No, they're not.
All three could have half their brain removed and they would still be smarter than the Ms. S.
Context and Conduct are important.
This lady is just pissy and is wanting to harrass Harvard's presidents when Harvard and other Ivy League universities (Harvard being a major law school) they know the difference between conduct, context, harassment, and bullying.
Ms. S is just trying to interrogate (bully/harrass - which under the definition thats exactly what shes doing) them into proving she's right.
This whole hearing was a joke. Like her education.
They should've been asked if using the incorrect pronoun to refer to a transgender person constitutes bullying or harassment. I'm 100% convinced that that question would've frozen them in their tracks. These people are despicable.
"Thank you for the question congresswoman....it would depend on the context".
How many times did they say that during the hearing?
" globalize the intifada" is in no way shape or form, harassment or bullying, neither is. "From the river to the sea"
They are speech protected by the first Amendment of the United States. They cannot in any way be construed to be directed at an individual or even a small group of individuals.
Are they pro palestinian? Yes! Are they anti-semitic? Probably!
Are they protected by the first Amendment of the United States? Absolutely!!
Frau Stefanik 🎉🎉 great....Thank you!🇮🇱❤️
She should have firstly asked them saying Palestinians rather than Jews, waited for that answer, then hit them with the Jewish question to see their hypocrisy.
You could say the same thing about some of the people spewing pro-Israel rhetoric
They don’t care about Palestinians.
Zionism means the right of jews to live in Israel, It is a legitimate right.
There is NO other country for jewish people, so being anti-zionist is being anti-jew. Stop trying to fool people!
Brilliant
@@mellowman-mr2nljust a minute. Saying you stand with israel is the same as calling for the genocide of a people? Come again.
That row of haters is the exact reason why our youth have no moral code of ethics. Insanity on display for all to see.
MaGill's huge smile tells us everything about her. She is filled with hate. She is the face of UPenn? Shame!
Literally this is what happened in WW2. This is how it started....localized wars. I cannot BELIEVE these are the people, with their PHDs, their Masters, these people are heading up these institutions, supposedly the best in the world, and they cannot make a stand...un believable.
Yes and we need to overhaul our school system from the bottom up. I’m talking elementary schools to universities. This is not what america is about.
They indoctrinated and radicalized our youth and now their chickens are coming home to roost. 👌
And then these same haters bash supporters of Trump and call Trump a hater. When they do it themselves. Tons of hypocrisy here. From the democrats. Liberals. Lots and lots of hypocrisy. Ok when they do it.
I can’t believe that one lady is smiling the whole time she’s answering questions
Lady?
She is an anti-Semite, and is proud of defending calls for genocide of the Jews.
She just knows what the congresswoman is trying to pull here.
@@Salara2130 The university president is saying that it does not violate university policies to hold rallies on campus calling for the genocide of a group of people, for example, black people. Violent threats are not a policy violation for her until actual physical assault against black people occurs ("conduct"). It's an unacceptable position for a university president to take.
@@ixfr123 Nope. They all said "its context dependend". The conduct part is just a red line at which point it is clearly against policy
I want to say that some of us are 100% behind the Jewish people. I’m not a sentimental person, but if I was Jewish, I think I might be crying right now. This reminds me of the attack on 911 and all those emotions came out such as disbelief, fear, uncertainty, and a lot of anger. We will stick together to overcome this and rid this racism from our campuses and country. I’m just literally shaking my head right now. Definitely eye opening to the nation, and they are starting to see funding slip away, and now they want to clarify their statements. No! Your all racist.
After 75 years of tremendous loss and suffering by Palestinians in their own land...?
What happened to this world?😔
Thank you! ❤
@@halimaakbar5530 listen buddy, survival of the fittest. Welcome to life itself. It’s not fair.
@@halimaakbar5530 that land they took from the Jews after the Romans kicked them out? Sure I cry for the Arab colonist
Three vipers slither hiding in the shadows. Evil.
Having a black president at Harvard doesnt really help with this one lmao
She wasn’t hired for her mind, was she?
I DON'T CARE WHAT RACE SOMEONE IS!!! IF they HATE truth then WICKEDNESS will continue!!!
Isaiah 5:20
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
The other University president is WASP and it didn’t help either.
@@sillysod33Very true. She was chosen as a part of affirmative action for two communities: LGBTQ and black.
@@veronikalevtova9506 Just the same as Biden's Spokes-Liar KJP
I'm not a US citizen, I'm planning to study MBA program in US, because the US MBA programs are one of the best in the world.
Then, I see this. It opened my Eyes. I thought what if they target me for my religion or my country ? Then I decided to change my plans of US education. Rather than going to US, I will study in my country. There's some great business schools I overlooked. I may pursue to get Admission in those campuses.
Thanks Ms. stefanik for opening my eyes.😊
Love to Ms. Stefanik from 🇮🇳
This is how the Nazis began.
So calling for the genocide of black people is not harrassment unless it is directed at an individual?
@daniellavicuna4308 Bassam is wrong. He said that the animosity is like a virus, and the treatment should be rest and nutrition. Gaza had 17 years of disengagement. They had time, they had billions in aid. They were still as belligerent as they ever were. The only reason for the blockade was only because Hamas wouldn't stop launching rockets.
Hamas is not a virus, it's a malignant cancer. The necessary treatment is chemotherapy and radiotherapy. Treatments that will kill noncancerous cells, but stopping the treatment is fatal.
The anti-Semitism of Arabs goes back before WW1.
If you believe what they saying, yes. Interesting to see someone try that and see how it fly.
@daniellavicuna4308 pressing the yes or no is a little manipulative however none of them just said yes or no they all answered in full sentences and had some time to explain. What they said is that calling for a general genocide is ok as long as no specific names are called out. It might also be the case that calling for genocide is not even in those guidelines because noone has ever done that. In this case however they should have said...no its not in the guidelines but we should be changing the guidelines now to include it.
Their answers were all spineless and showed they dont care.
@daniellavicuna4308You saying that if these university presidents watched that Piers interview, then they would be able to convince Stefanik about the context of calling for genocide of Jews?
@@mariooooo.o3404 What do you mean? is saying gas the Jews o.k beacause there are no specific names?
These women say misgendering a person is bullying wow but not genocide
I would had loved to have someone ask if calling for the genocide of Palestinians would constitute harassment..... Calling for ANYONE's genocide is sick and wrong.
That these women cannot answer simply Yes or No is unacceptable and they should step down.
If the congresswoman ask: if calling for genocide of trans/black/Palestine violating their code of conduct, they will say yes without any hesitation.
Their ignorance is on display for the world to see. STOP sending your kids to these schools. Condem them at every chance.
2 Timothy 3:6
“For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,”
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
100%, and run sign petitions
Yes you are right.
Love this Congresswoman. Those women from the the universities are vile and despicable. I hope more wealthy donors pull their money from these universities
And their children. I do not, will not allow my children, grand children to attend a university of such antisemetic hate. I suppose these three women deny the Holocaust. How many Jewish families worked their fingers to the bone to send their kids, grandkids to such a supposadly prestigous university only to be harrassed and afraid to attend classes? This makes me sick.
Yes...agreed
But the money comes from Qatar ….
She values Israel over Australia lol
@@JasonKing12348 What are you talking about?
All three have to resign immediately!
@@12Thr33that's not being a hero
I can't believe they are not being condemned in the mainstream media. Unbelievable!!!
They are now.
The main media belong to democrats. They helped to cover for China.
I would think that calling for the genocide of ANY people would be deemed unacceptable conduct at every University, College, and educational institution. That these three University Presidents equivocate, dodge, waffle and hedge is beyond belief. “It depends on the context.” 🤦♂️
@daniellavicuna4308please stop posting the same comment on every comment- everyone knows the truth but idiots - piers is not a credible anything. He’s a liar
@daniellavicuna4308please study history and you will learn that Youssef Basam is just a marketing tool of the so called "Palestinian"
Here are the historical facts. Feel free to do a proper, unbiased, research verify it.
1- Israel belong to the Jewish people long before prophet Muhammad / Islam were even existed. There are countless of evidence to support that: Archeological discoveries, art affects, items pass between Jews from generation to generation, historical books & documentations an yes also the Bible which even for non believers, must be treated at least as historical reference.
But let me give you a very simple example that most people should understand:
Jesus was born in Bethlehem and grew up in Nazareth. Where are those located? Israel!
(Bettelheim is currently under PLO in West Bank but original it is also israel)
What was Jesus, יהושוע, original religion before he "discovered" the "Holly spirit"? Jewish!
Does that make it simple so far?
Well unless you are anti semi or brainwashed Muslim, you must at least acknowledge that Jewish were in israel before Islam ever existed🤷♂️
2- Judaism exist for over 5,000 years. Islam exist for only 1,400 years. Yet...
There are 49 Muslim countries in the world, more than 40% of the world land, and 23 Arabs countries.
But only 1 Jewish country, the size of a small city🤷♂️
Please look at the world maps and compare the "Islam countries and the Jewish countries...
And yet, you guys calling us "occupiers" and part of the Western colonization" what a stupid joke😂
3- The so called "Palestinian" have nothing to do with the Philistine of ancient days. The origin of the name "Philistine" is derived from the Hebrew word "p'lishtim," meaning "invaders" = פולשים = פלישה
The name "Palestine" is not an "Arab name". In fact the letter P doesn't even exist in Arabic. Have you ever heard a native Arab say the letter P? No, they say B:)
The ethnic, linguistic, and cultural background of the ancient Philistines is from the Aegean region (Greece today). Nothing to do with Arabs, nothing to do with the Palestinian today. The ancient Philistine were extinct/ merged into the population there were ruled by. There is no evidence that any Arab "so called Palestinian" today is linked in anyway to the ancient philistines.
4- The Arabs in israel are not "the original settlers" of this land". They are descendants of Arabs tribes who were exiled from their original lands over the years: Babylon, Arabs peninsula, Assyria ect..
Back then, The empires used exiles and population exchange/ transfers as a tactic to prevent rebellions.
For example: they Transferred jews from Judea = israel to Babylon and Arabs from the peninsula and from Babylon to israel.. that was very common in those days.
5- When the Roman took the Land from the Jews, they called it "Palestina" based on the name that the Israelites used to describe its nemesis/enemies. The Roman purposely used this name to humiliate the Jewish people" by naming it after its nemesis.
But it had nothing to do with arabs people. Actually, very few Arabs used to live on this land back then.
6- When the British took over the land, they called it again Palestine. But it has nothing to do with a particular race of people called "Palestinian" . it was just a name the British gave to their British mandate". Based on the name that the Roman used which is based on the name which the Israelite used to call the Philistine race who used to settle the land. Non of those linked to the Arabs of today🤷♂️😂
7- During the British empire colonization, everyone who lived on this land were called "Palestinians" Jews and Arabs. Palestine wasn't a race or a nation🤷♂️
8- In fact, there was never a country called Palestine, NEVER!
Not during the Roman Empire, not during the Ottoman Empire, not during the British empire... and not even when it was under Jordan and Egypt control (1948 ~ 1967)
Palestine was NEVER a country of its own!
Can you name the first Palestinian president? Can you name the first Palestinian Prime minister?
- Here is a list of the empires and people who ever ruled israel: Where is Palestine?
1. Ancient Egypt (during various periods of ancient history)
2. Kingdom of Israel and Judah (ruled by Israelites)
3. Neo-Assyrian Empire (Syria today)
4. Neo-Babylonian Empire (Iraq today)
5. Persian Empire - Achaemenid Empire-
(Iran today)
6. Hellenistic Period (Seleucid Empire and Ptolemaic Kingdom)
7. Roman Empire
8. Byzantine Empire
9. Islamic Caliphates (various Islamic empires ruling the region)
10. Crusader States
11. Ayyubid Sultanate
12. Mamluk Sultanate
13. Ottoman Empire
14. British Mandate for Palestine (under British control)
15. Modern State of Israel (established in 1948)
9- 1947- Although there were already over 35 Muslim nations and over 15 Arab countries back then, and although the Jewish had only israel. And although the Arabs in israel share the same religion , ethnicity, culture and language with neighboring Arabs countries, and could have gone back to their origin lands. Although all of this, The UN resolution called to divide the country between Arabs and Jews. The Jews actually accepted it, although they shouldn't have, But the Arabs did not.
Together with 4 Arabs countries and their armies, the local arabs attacked the Jews in israel. But Miraculously (and lots of hard work and support from Jews abroad) the Jews have won. And that led to some Arabs, those who were enemies of the Jews, to force to leave their "homes" which was never really theirs to begin with...
But "Arabs" who didn't join the war on the jews and kept the peace, were allowed to stay in israel and they still living and growing in israel until today. 20% of israeli citizens are Muslim!
10- Mecca is the capital of Islam not Jerusalem. Jerusalem is the capital of the Jews, it always has been.
In the Quran, the name Jerusalem doesn't appear explicitly even one time. Nothing, 0!
In the old Testament" = the Jewish Bible = Torah, The word Jerusalem appear 847 times!
11- Ignorant people call Israel "an apartheid state- yet they can't give even ONE example of an apartheid law in israel. Why? Because there are non!
Israeli Jews, Arabs, Muslim and Christian entitle to the exact same rights and obligations. Except that Arabs are not forced to join the IDF. Only Jewish do.
12- Some ignorant will talk about "borders" and check points in West Bank and Gaza as a "prove of Apartheid".
But those are just borders between 2 "non friendly states" it has nothing to do with "apartheid"
Israel does not really control West Bank since 1993 , and definitely doesn't control Gaza since 2005.
"Palestinian" who are israeli citizens can go in and out of israel freely, all 2 million of them. Palestinian who are not israeli citizen can not come freely to israel. Because they are not israeli citizen and many of them want to do Terror in israel. Other countries permit everyone to pass through their borders without any check? Its ridicules.
On the other end, no israeli can go to West Bank or Gaza. No one at all. Unless he want to commit suicide in a most painful way.
13- Some ignorant will talk about "genocide" that israel is doing to the people in Gaza since 1948.
Did you know in 1948 there total of 80,000 "Palestinian" living in Gaza and after this "huge genocide over the years there are now...
2,000,000 people! 24 times than proper to 1948.
West Bank? Prior to 1948 it was 400,000 and now it is 2.8 million!
And what about israeli Arabs? Their population has grown from 150,000 to 1.9 million.
14-Al - Aqsa Mosque was built by Caliph Al Malik purposely on the Jewish most sacred location. The Temple Mount, Har Habait, Which according to Judaism is the source of creation.
Yet, although it is under israel Control today, Muslim are allowed to pray there freely, and Jewish aren't. Because Jews have to "respect" Muslim feeling.
So if there is any apartheid in israel, it is actually against the Jews.
They been opressing , discriminating and spewing hate on White people for years ...not a word from anyone, let alone Stefanik
Try misgendering someone though and see the difference….
Are they expecting Jews killed in their university to admit the genocidal calling?
I love how these liberal academics all of a sudden discovered the importance of free speech
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
They are just little cowards.
The importance of free speech as it conforms with their worldview and ideology. If it does not free speech is dispised - something only for the 'like-minded'. It's both cherished and despised depending on what they perceive ideologically at a particular moment in time.
and I like how all these conservatives forgot about free speech,
saying free palestine is now equal to wiping out all of the jews in the entire world that's how crazy these pro israel people are
The only genocide that is happening and not by words only, but rather active military operations is happening against palestinians right now
I don't care what side you on, right, left, up, down. when you see bullshit you call it
Free speech for me, but not for thee.
If we need proof why a college degree doesn't carry the importance it once had, here it is.
So I can bring a confederate flag on their campus then.
Ivy League does not automatically denote intelligence
On the contrary, Ivy League now means the poorest quality, the lowest and craziest of standards, the weirdest of people with no morals. If you send your kid to an Ivy League school, you are condemning your child to a life of idiocy
Today the two are mutually exclusive
@CooP-dg7ky
Here's a doozy for your brain.
In WW2 the Palestinian Grand Mufti commanded 20,000 Muslim Waffen SS troops against the Jews in the middle east.
Even A Hilter himself thought the guy was a deadset Lunatic.
Now Hamas continues on with his work in the middle east.
Who in their right mind supports Hamas???
The Yom kippur war was nowhere near 1992. Arabs do not descend from Jacob's older brother. Your race is irrelevant to your comment.
Ivy Legue is like MENSA... its all for the ego. The ppl with the highest IQs and low ego tend to avoid those two!
Can you imagine if they had a kkk rally outside a university and these brain surgeons said that calling for the genocide of black people was not harrassment or bullying or it could be but it depends on the context.
Its no wonder Jewish students dont feel safe if when they report that a thousand students are standing a few yards away screaming that they should be murdered the university authorities response is "what are you complaining about they havent actually done it yet have they? Come back when they are commiting genocide and we will hear your case". This is the clearest case of the old adage "those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
The arrogance of these three is breathtaking.
Genuinely disturbing.
Easy question to answer yes to if you have any level of human decency in your heart....These people shouldn't be anywhere near students.
Ms Stefanik, shine your light!
By not being able to answer the question correctly, they have failed their exams, and they should be expelled from those universities.
Defund any Federal aid to these cesspools, and fine them for hate speech on top of that. Maybe a nice big class-action suit.
How can refusal to say something be considerd any kind of speech let alone hate speech?
@@kevinkelly2162 Well, numpties like you do say Silence is Violence? no?
Interesting if these same people would call 'mis-gendering' bulling, yet not do the same when calling for genocide. I would think that the later is extremely more destructive than the former.
@@kevinkelly2162they dont deny it...or say its bully/harrassement. Sub the word Jew with black, gay or transgender. These Faux ladies would say yes immediately
now and days Qatar sends funds so...
These Presidents need to figure out which side they're on.
So if the same hateful statements about Jews on these campuses is allowed then the same hateful statements towards all races should be allowed. Imagine the outrage if these statements were directed towards African-American students.
These Institutions have zero credibility now. Repugnant.
I say that they are under orders from rich donors. Follow the money.
She should have then asked: “would it be ok to call for the genocide of blacks?” Then she could have compared the answers
But she did very well not asking this question, as suffering is not a competition.
Wonder if they thought the genocide of the Yazidi s depended on context. Those that are apologists for evil are themselves marked by evil.
@marcelmurgatroyd5272 who?
For blacks it's a competition. Where muh fo hundered years be at? Fo hundered years of oppression. Haha. They can't get their shit together and just keep endlessly blaming the past.
@@yaronsemiat4048the question is not an attempt of competition in the race of oppression but to show their hypocrisy
Shame on them! Things are rotten deep inside. How come it has become like that?
It is scary to think these woman is in such high authority positions.
Please let them go.
We need strong leaders in those positions.
These university presidents are an embarrassment. How dare they ….shame on them!
Because they refuse to condone the bombing of palestinian children? Yesterday I Saw a video of a palestinian child with all of his limbs blown off. Doctors were trying to save him as he cried in agony. It was the most horrifying thing I've ever seen. But you don't care about that do you? Speaking out against it means you're "calling for the genocide of jews". Apparently if you don't condone the torture of little children then you want to genocide jews. Fucking pathetic!
Not one taxpayer dollar should go to these institutions anymore
They dare, and they're NOT ashamed. Let's dare also, and not ashamed to expose them.
MIT univ is Mentally ill university..
Harvard univ is Hamas University
Penn univ is Jihadi University
Cornell univ is Terror unversity
Yale univ is Allah university
Columbia univ is Koran university
California State Univ (CSU) is Sharia university..
Do you realise how many of your dollar's are going to Israel, you are condoning genocide shame on you
However if someone on campus calls a student by something other than their preferred pronoun, I am sure these same 4 ladies would not need to even consider context before pronouncing condemnation.
Those 4 are most certainly not ladies!
@@stevehewitt1151 Females (insert preferred pronoun) of the species, but definitely not Ladies.
I agree
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
So true. They’d find a way to twist the words as much as needed.
These women are worse than Nazi Hamas itself. I really wonder if calls for genocide of blacks, gays or women are also context dependent
And this is what's wrong with our education system.
Unconscionable. In the USA, in 2023.
Shame on the presidents refusing to answer "Yes". Must resign !
@daniellavicuna4308 Horse shit. Just exchange the word Jew for Black and muslim and then go on chanting death threats all you want. That would be a fine example of free speech for Morgan or any other Arab to listen to.
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
@daniellavicuna4308I dont care if it even written in the stars. If you think so you over rational evil
Dictatorship in US are being put in place
Congresswoman Stefanik should run for President! Great question and appreciate her not allowing the presidents to waffle out of this. (BTW she graduated from Harvard with honours.)
they are being bullied to answer yes. that is shameful.
They are a disgrace. None of them will survive this…
No love, what's shameful is their hypocrisy
Shocking and gross. These schools should be de-legitimaized
Before Munich, the word "appeasement" had a positive connotation. Magill has done the same to the word "context."
You don’t have enough money to do that, but good idea
I like how they stand again those bullies. I see our first amendment gone, eaten up by adl and aipac
@JohnKlot suddenly the left cares about free speech fkg hypocrites
For following the law? Genocidal speech is protected by the first Amendment. Brandenburg v. Ohio. Specifically with respect to genocidal speech calling for revengeance against blacks and Jews at a KKK rally.
Those women must resign immediately!
Holly crap, considering I never in my life heard anything I could support from Representative Stefanik, I have to thank her profusely for her clarity on this issue.
Apparently, Diversity equity and inclusion does not include Jewish students
Like you give fuck when people say racist shit about Palestinians.
These spineless people are just despicable! And no, the meaning of this utterance is not context-dependent; it is universal.
The image of those four women sitting at that table is nothing less than the new Mount Rushmore of Idiocy...
Resignation for all three. They are a disgrace to the Americans.
Not resignation. Removal.
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
It’s astonishing witnessing people supporting evil systems whilst seemingly unable to understand the implications. All these evil ladies should not only be dismissed from duty, but be criminally charged for conspiring to eradicate jews.
AMEN!
The are certainly giving aid & comfort to Hamas.
They understand you can see it in their smug faces. Truly abhorrent, Elie Wiesel would not be surprised by these so-called educated elite.
"You are of your father the devil,
and the desires of your father you want to do.
He was a murderer from the beginning,
and does not stand in the truth,
because there is no truth in him.
When he speaks a lie,
he speaks from his own resources,
for he is a liar and the father of it."
(John 8 : 44)
Yes, I 100% agree.
Congresswoman Stefanik, good job. Thank you
These are horrors! They. must resign themselves.
pathetic if they cannot answer yes or no - they need to be sacked
Whats even crazier is that boards of directors thinks these women should be the heads of these schools.
Affirmative action brings in big dollars.
@@trhansen3244 From Qatar. The country who hosts the Hamas leaders and lets them live in luxury.
I bet the board of directors is on Qatars payroll as well. Follow the money.
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
Radical left loonies just love and support other radical left loonies
Lawyers! Riding the fence when there is no fence to ride! Shocking! Good job Stefanik!
Are these "leaders" incapable of feeling shame...how incredible...incredulous...
That is called demonic constraint. That is what we see why Hamas are able to commit atrocities without moral constraints.
There is no distinction between people who's moral compass is irreparably broken, and clinically insane people. Just one common denominator between them is their inability to feel shame - or even understand the concept.
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
Because they refuse to condone the bombing of palestinian children? Yesterday I Saw a video of a palestinian child with all of his limbs blown off. Doctors were trying to save him as he cried in agony. It was the most horrifying thing I've ever seen. But you don't care about that do you? Speaking out against it means you're "calling for the genocide of jews". Apparently if you don't condone the torture of little children then you want to genocide jews. Fucking pathetic!
@CooP-dg7ky it is sad to see you inject yourself and your skin color into the conversation before you consider what they are saying. No one is targeting the black community. They are saying: What would you do if these people were calling for the eradication of black people. Would you still take the 5th? Hope this sheds some light on the matter for you.
The problem seems to be that the the entire Academia is antisemitic now. I despair…
Intelligent people condemn war crimes. Stay mad on the wrong side of history
@@PrimeNPC yes they condemn hamas what war crime has Israel committed
When they write History on this period they will title it the Clown Years and you and your ilk (the self proclaimed "intelligent ones") will be naked for all the Ages to see! @@PrimeNPC
@@PrimeNPC lets see how long you and your descendants last. oh wait you dont have any
@@brighthought11 Why are you so mad about Israel being called out for it's crimes against humanity?
This is mind blowing how these progressive's have been given positions of power in academia....
This is disgusting bordering on the side of evil by those Ivy League heads! They should be ashamed!
Disgraceful!
As a citizen of Corporate America I am required to take the anti-harassment training every year. The biggest thing I got out of the training is that rhetorics that cause emotional distress to the recipient(even if she/he is not the intended recipient ) is called “harassment “, regardless of the original intent of the person who made the comments (in other words the commenter can be completely innocent). Even if these rhetorics do not constitute illegal conduct, they are definitely a violation of corporate policies and code of conduct. The commenters are subject to punishment like being fired. After watching the above video, it seems like either Corporate America has higher moral standards than Intellectual America or the presidents from these schools are overdue for the harassment training. 😂
There is a difference between Corporate American and Intellectual America. In Corporate America, you have to be careful what you say for fear of offending someone who will run to HR. In Intellectual America, there is a wider range of acceptable speech, i.e. freedom of speech. The point is that one does not have carte blanche to say anything, i.e. there is a line to be drawn even in free speech. Calling for genocide or violence is where one draws the line.
It is very simple. There is always a double standard for jews.
@@natalienissim4471you've got that backwards, the double standards apply to everyone else but......
You're right. Doesn't matter what's said, but how it's perceived!
I agree with your statement with the exception that you called one of the groups Intellectual America. The term Intellectual should have been put between quotes --> "Intellectual" America :)
Hats off to the three ladies for standing their ground. It is like asking a police officer - people are driving dangerously, shouldn't you have banned cars. The right reply would be - if a car is involved in an accident, all the relevant laws will be applied. Which is exactly what the university presidents replied. Hats off once again.
Do fck off you crazed left wing freak. Evert single one of them are utter cowards. Fck em all. Given jobs because they are either bLack, lesbiens or Trans, whatever the fck that is 😂
Drawing false parralels does your position no justice. Is hate speech, including actionable threats, permissible against any person or group of people ever permitted in this country in any setting or does it depend on your moronic CONTEXT? Oh, I'm guessing you're not a college president or police officer either.
Resign?? They should be sacked!
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy.”
― George Orwell, 1984
This is the elephant in the room, sitting there, staring everyone in the face, yet hardly anyone is discussing it - that this woke extremism was created and is driven by women.
The look of smug, self-righteous stubbornness on these women is sickening.
Hamas is permitted to raping the captives
Sahih Muslim 1456 d
This hadith has been reported on the authority of AbuSa'id (al-Khudri) (Allah be pleased with him) through another chain of transmitters and the words are:
They took captives (women) on the day of Autas who had their husbands. They were afraid (to have sexual intercourse with them) when this verse was revealed:" And women already married except those whom you right hands posses" ( Qs 4 : 24)
It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured
When having sex with the captive,slaves, it is better to not to pull out at the end ( coitus interruptus)
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence."
Shahih al Bukhari
Sahih Muslim 1440 c
Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported:
We used to practise azl ( coitus interruptus ) during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). This (the news of this practise) reached Allah's Apostle (ﷺ), and he did not forbid us.
Did he call it or what!
🎯
They make me sick
Thank God for the Republicans of Congress, standing up to, and calling out the woke liberalism, of university leaders.
I can't believe their responses. What was all their education for if they can't answer simple questions.
An absolute disgrace
They obviously discussed this amongst themselves before the hearing.
These university presidents should resign yesterday!
Wow. How do these people get in these positions.
And Federal money goes to support them?
Of course. The US government wouldn't want it any other way
And the have HUGE endowments.
Qatar also does though
I'm shocked, how can a person who lives in a western society, answer that it depends on context, every kindergarten child, will answer the correct answer. Thank you congresswoman 👏👏👏🌸🌸
I agree..😂
It depends upon the context 😮 bahaha hahaha 🤣😂🤣 people are soooooooooooo stupid everyone 😅 you're All brainwashed fools bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 everything's made in China bahaha hahaha 🤣😂😅 everyone has a Chinese fetish bahaha hahaha 😂😅😂😂
Because most oppressed groups throughout history called for genocide of other groups. Even people we glorify now, like the jews. Many jews called for the genocide of Germans in early 40s. It would be obscene to ask people if it was OK or not.
@@tdb517In the Western society, kids learn already in kindergarten, not to generalize and hold anything against a whole group of people just due to acts of a single person of an ethnic group.
So there is no justification, to call for the murder of a whole group.
I personally know Jews who survived the Holocaust or that lived during the 40's, yet I have never ever heard them explicitly state that all Germans should be killed. I was not alive in the 40's however I have never ever heard of groups of Jews, that called for that in the 40's. I can say with great certainty that even if there was a group which did, it does not reflect the opinion of all Jews.
@tdb517 A major part of the German people actively or passively were involved in the holocaust. Did the Jews in the campuses or in Israel have ever tried to wipe out the Palestinians?? The Palestinian population is just growing and growing, if Israrl wanted to kill all of them, you would see almost no Palestinian survivors, so what are you talking about?? Israel is fighting the Palestinian terrorists, the same way Jordan has fought and killed many Palestinians during Black September, because of the Palestinian terror attacks.
If Palestinians put their weapons down, there will be peace with Israel.
If Israel puts its weapons down, there would be a second Holocaust. October 7th and many terror attacks are just examples of what I've just quoted.
These same people call everyone else a Nazi... while calling for genocide, or enabling people to call for genocide. It's evil.
Finally the cycle is complete
You are the president of a major university and you can't answer the simple question. Our country is in deep trouble
It's an extremely dishonest question and you know it
@@adamgates1142maybe to an antisemitic Nazi like you. Sure
They answered the questions. Is it that in your mind, the answers to all questions must be a blanket yes or no?
@@adamgates1142how? Because no specific Jewish names were mentioned? It’s ok to make blanket statements against entire groups of people as long as no specific individuals are named?
Respect for Congresswoman's straight no-nonsense approach 🙇♂ She could have also rephrased the question: If people start calling for the genocide of these 3 chairpersons and their ilks, would that constitute an violation/offence according to their educational institute's code of conduct?
It’s so frustrating listening to those useless answers!!