Battletech's Shadow Hawk, the Plucky Protagonist Machine
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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The Shadow Hawk was the poster boy for Battledroid when it originally launched, and remained a "top design" until the whole Unseen incident.
A very decent mid-range 275 Mafiosi, the Shadow Hawk does what you want it to do, not very well, but well enough you want to keep using it. It also is the standard "good guy hero mech" used by so many authors.
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The real strength of the 2D and the SHawk in general is the modability of the chassis and the location of the hardpoints. It has a shoulder mounted ballistic and laser points on the arms. Perfect. Drop a smaller engine and add a bigger gun, you have a heavier Hunchback. Drop the ballistic and add two LLs you have a heavier Crab 27. Truly a great option predating omnitech. And much cheaper even when you have it.
The end song is a perfect end to a great video!
UA-cam was weird about that one, got lucky with this video.
Davion shadowhawks are just confusing. In a Succession War Era when mechs are vanishing like hotcakes, you would think Asset protection would be a stronger inclination than slightly more damage output... even more true for Mercenary units with less funding/parts.
It is, honestly, one of the worst 'mechs of the era.
Truly valid concern. I often dropped weapons for armor in this era.
The SHawk isn't the best mech to be buying new off the assembly line. But if you are trading for salvage shares, it's very easy to pick up a legged 2D and do whatever you want with it.
The invasion era shadow hawk with a large laser and 5x streak 2 launchers is one of my personal favorites. Until some dark age machines come along ita one of the best variants imo.
I always wondered why someone didn't merge the ideas but not the execution of the davion and drac succession war variants to get a Shadow Hawk with a Large Laser, a SRM-6, a LRM-5, and 2 medium lasers for the weapons and 9.5 tons of armor along with 5 jump jets and the same 12 single heat sinks of the 2H. More punch, more mobility, assuming you bracket fire a decent heat curve and just as tough as the 2H arguably more so since its got less ammo to potentially go boom
I'd pay to have a custom SHawk built like that. Probably wouldn't even break the bank.
Mechforce UK designed the SHD-2N back in the late 80's, which removed the AC5 and replaced it with a Large Laser. The saved weight allowed the LRM5 to be upgraded to an LRM10 and the SRM2 to be upgraded to an SRM4,it also retained the original Medium Laser. You could easily leave the SRM2 as standard and instead increase your Jump Jets to 5. This version does run hot as you only have the stock 12 heat sinks. BV:1264(5/8/5) Cost: 4,854,032 C-bills.
I actually did build this in Battletech 2018, just with the LRM swapped out for an SRM because brawling is fun
It's got personality. I do love it. But my biggest gripe is almost always the 5/8/3 profile. Lorewise, it's fine. It adds a little mobility for tactical flexibility, but gamewise, it's not even a meaningful improvement on the UrbanMech's two jump jets. Any time they increase the jump capability, it's almost always a better variant.
That being said, for the Succession Wars, the SHD-2K is the best variant. Fewer ammo concerns, a better main gun, and despite its "Griffin knockoff" reputation, unlike the Griffin, it can jump and shoot everything consistently.
The Enhanced LRMs are fine, it's the Extended LRMs that are awful.
I really hate xl engines. they did so much dmg to the 275 mafia
@@ero9841 The reduction in survivability on mediums is big enough that it isn't worth it most of the time.
Light engines are "not as bad"
OS SRMs confuse me. I mean, the rocket launcher is *right* there.
The model used to represent the 3K is great. The pose, paint and support units is amazing.
The shadowhawk is a weird one for me. It's basically a worse wolverine or dragon. That said, it can work well if you use the lrm/ac5 to pepper the target at long range and use streak missiles + medium lasers for dps or as a pseudo hunchie with srms and a rifle.
But what really makes the shadowhawk stand out is stealth. It can run a null-signature system even better than an exterminator 4D thanks to its superior heat management. An angry juggernaut punching you to death.
The only points I dislike about the Shadow hawk are the ammo bins being on both torsos and that head mounted launcher (I think the only head mounted weapon should be an AMS, so you notice the clunk when it runs dry.).
Thing is there is that completely empty left arm where both SRM and LRM launchers could be mounted putting all the ammo on the left side and letting the Mech warrior shield and shoot with the right arm and its med laser, yet no Shadow hawks are set up to do this.
The thing about the shadowhawk, is it’s a mech that is comparable to an ancient Terran Honda civic. It’s basic, reliable, and you don’t care about if your son crashes it as much as your usual car. Also the fucking aftermarket is mad.
Personally I prefer some of the lyran variants of the griffin, but that’s because my family grew up with a griffin 6S in the post jihad era.
Newtown Industries has a pair of refit kits for the 2H, serving as the flagship products of the company at its founding in 3010. The SHD-2NI-L removes the SRM2 and its ammo for a second LRM5 in the head, while replacing one heat sink with some additional armor plating. The SHD-2NI-S removes the SRM2 and LRM5 and replaces them with a pair of SRM4s with one ton of ammunition. Again, they trade the twelfth heat sink for additional armor plating.
@@matthewneuendorf5763 Most common thing I saw people do with the extra heat sink is ask us to put 2 extra jump jets in.
Then again, we offer ferro-fibrous kits to everyone showing up here ...
not even justice..
End quote for a reason :)
I had to build my own custom shadow hawk, now I'm happy running one in a lance 😂
I like Fang of the Sun Dougram, but I don't like the Shadow Hawk in Battletech. Its not a moderate Jack-of-All-trades, its a low quality Master-of-None.
It had Jump Jets, but too few so it ends up mismatched with the walking speed. That makes them wasted tonnage. It has too many Heat Sinks to cool it down so even when firing all its weapons in even when its impossible for them to hits its still cool, so theyre wasted tonnage.
A lot of the work with the Shadow Hawk is about immediately modifying it, like take off a Single Heat Sink to add 2 Jump jets. Maybe take off the AC-5 and replace it with a PPC, or remove the LRM-5 to add Medium Lasers or 2-tube Short Range Missile launchers.
The one game where the Shadow Hawk is actually good is the 2018 Battletech PC game. There with some modifications it does indeed get much better. In that case its kind of "Cheating" because that game heavily buffed the Autocannon-5.
Maybe the single greatest issue is the iconic shoulder-mounted Ballistic cannon. In battletech Ballistic Weapons usually have a huge tonnage cost. As a fast medium mech the Shadow Hawk doesnt have much tonnage to spare for the gun, so you end up with very low firepower. The Centurion is a slower mech with no jump jets, but its cannon and Long Range Missile launchers have twice the firepower.
Can I just say that whoever made the 2K stats, made a mistake. I don't think it was ever supposed to be the PPC plus LRM-5. If you look at the original TRO it simply stated that the 2K replaced the Autocannon with a PPC and added 5 heat sinks. It never specified what the other weapons were. Now as you stated in the video it is oversinked. However if you leave off the LRM-5 and keep the medium laser and SRM-2 instead, you have the same tonnage but now the mech is perfectly heat neutral when jumping and firing all weapons. That makes way more sense.
I wonder how many were used by the COMGUARD.
@@mikecampos1193 Lots lots lots many many 2.
And probably more. (Troll math)
Well I hope you cover some of the more interesting Mechs even those from the word of Blake.
Back in Battledroids it was far easier to lose heat sinks, the big advantage of the Shadow Hawk is that it generated little heat so it could survive longer even when it did lose enough heat sinks to cripple another mech.
wasn't the shadow hawk the go to mech to learn of most of th different weapon systems? 19 alpha strike is not that good though.
I always loved the Shad, to the point that I added both a Marian- and a primitive version to my Fanmade TRO: Marian Hegemony! Both feature a bevy of Rocket Launchers and...... Rifles instead of autocannons 😊