the most complicated fantasy book of all time?

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • My review of The Claw of the Conciliator by Gene Wolfe!
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  • @jonathanhenderson9422
    @jonathanhenderson9422 3 місяці тому

    Is it weird that I saw the title of the video and immediately thought to myself "It's Gene Wolfe, right?" 😄Book of the New Sun is basically the Dark Souls of novels. I loved it, but I have no idea what the hell I read. I need to do a deep dive one of the days with some kind of guide. I think there's a podcast out there that covered every chapter in depth.

  • @tasosalexiadis7748
    @tasosalexiadis7748 3 місяці тому +1

    Don't forget to read the fifth book, Urth of the New Sun, after you finish Citadel. Apparently Gene Wolfe thought that it wasn't needed and you could foresee everything that would happen in Urth of the New Sun from the main text, especially from the Play chapter you just read.... So I highly recommend the fifth book too.

    • @toastytowns
      @toastytowns  3 місяці тому

      yeah, I didn’t get any value out of that play… so definitely will check it out!!

  • @captainnolan5062
    @captainnolan5062 3 місяці тому

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  • @jarltrippin
    @jarltrippin 3 місяці тому +1

    Didn't expect this one so soon haha.
    I see what you mean about Severian's treatment of Jolenta. It also didn't sit right with me at all, especially when he afterwards dismissed her like nothing to be left at the mercy of Dr. Talos. His relationship with women makes total sense when you consider that the most normal interaction he had with a woman during his childhood was that brief interaction with Valeria after he escaped the tunnels looking for Triskele. Other than that, women, to him, were either prostitutes or clients to be tortured. This kid was never gonna leave his home carrying a healthy view of the opposite sex lmao. But this aspect of him is part of why I find him so fascinating: he's a total weirdo, and it's hard to get a good read on him as a person.
    Also my favourite part was the prison. The moment when the kid approaches Severian and says "Oh, I thought you were a woman" was super cool, creative and somewhat unsettling.

    • @toastytowns
      @toastytowns  3 місяці тому +1

      I’m officially hooked! Probably will try to finish all the books in the next month or so. Thanks again for the rec!!

  • @JosephReadsBooks
    @JosephReadsBooks 3 місяці тому

    I'm enjoying your coverage of Book of the New Sun.
    Just because this book has a play that makes no sense doesn't mean the book is complicated 😂(I'm too dumb to understand what the play was about so I ignore it).
    Claw is my favorite book in the series.

  • @RafBlutaxt
    @RafBlutaxt 3 місяці тому

    Yeah, Claw definitely turns up the weird and both the play and the summoning in the ruined city at the end only get clearer on a reread. Tolkien definitely was an influence on Wolfe, in fact, Wolfe wrote Tolkien a letter as a young fan and even got a reply. He talks about it in an older essay called "The Best Introduction To The Mountains". There is a lot to be found in comparing Severian's reflections on women to his actual treatment, also after this book a question you need to ask yourself is who is the "I" of the narrator, something that is particularly important in his writings about Thekla. Anyways, I hope you'll have fun with the remaining books and of course the reread that you will eventually do.

  • @samm8190
    @samm8190 3 місяці тому

    Yessssss Owen!!!!!!! So glad you read this one!! This was definitely the most dense and confusing book in the series for me, however Sword of the Lictor is absolutely my favorite of the books. All of the most badass moments in the series happens in that one in my opinion.
    What did you think of Vodalus’ black mass ritual with the Alzabo elixir?

  • @jaredghramm
    @jaredghramm 3 місяці тому

    I bought the compendium of Shadow and Claw this last week off, I'm SUPER excited to read it. Being that I will be finishing Malazan in the next month or so, it definitely won't be until I take a little bit of a brain break from fantasy haha. Finishing Malazan will be my biggest reading accomplishment to date (one that I feel bittersweet about. I'm probably going to be pretty depressed when it's all over) and as much as I have completely fallen in love with it and don't think I'll ever find anything that will leave me in such awe and wonder again, I wouldn't be able to give BOTNS the love it deserves unless I have a fantasy decompress for a minute haha. Thanks for the killer content man, I always look forward to your videos!

    • @toastytowns
      @toastytowns  3 місяці тому +1

      The best thing about finishing Malazan is that you can reread Malazan!

    • @jaredghramm
      @jaredghramm 3 місяці тому

      @toastytowns it's going to be a while before my brain muscles recover enough to do that but I'm looking forward to it!