Vedal desperately trying to convince himself that people don't like HIM that much and one beautiful day he'll get to sneak out the back door and never come back. I don't think so, turtle boy.
@@intenseavarice34vedal is really good at ignoring people, what is anny gonna do? Send him a dm? Oh wow, its nos like people make fun of vedal for not looking at dms XD
There is no Neuro without Vedal! Even beyond him programming her. I think Ellie is 100% right when she said that Vedal playing the straight man to Neuro's chaotic nature just works.
@@ripbraincells8534 Same honestly. I like watching clips of Neuro on her own, but I'll watch full archived streams of Vedal and Neuro playing games, or coding.
Vedal really found the magic fomula, and it sounds to me like he may not fully realize just how delicate the balance is on the front-end. He is one of the very few people who know how to handle and talk to Neuro, not to mention the thing Ellie talked about with Vedal continuously being the "straight man" to the twins' antics. Human interaction is key in AI content, that's why most AI-only entertainment fails. He sees himself as a background character and doesn't want to get involved too much, but he's as much of an anchor for the channel as Neuro and Evil are. Each one of that trio plays a very important role in the group dynamic, and Vedal's absence would seriously upset that. No amount of colabs will ever be able to replace him.
I feel a bit guilty, but I refuse to watch the streams if vedal is not apart of it 😭 Will definitely watch clips, but vedal has to be one of my favorite parts of the streams and I fear for when he plans to go ahead with his full automation ai
Poor Vedal. He's got that detatched aloof attitude that you have to have when dealing with lab rats. But over this subathon, he's taken *soooo* much spirit damage. Evil hit him with "goodnight, daddy." when he tucked her in, and he got so flustered. Not in a naughty way. You could see his face even though he wasn't on screen. 🤗 That one pierced his armor, and left a mark he won't forget.
@Cortizelic Straight up for me it depends, I'll stick around if it's Anny or Camila (Probably adding Ellie to the list because the robot stuff is just fascinating) because Neuro/Evil can be entertaining with both of them but with insert random vtuber it gets old, Neuro is more interesting when you forget it's not an actual person yet it's having actual conversations with people not just (Instead joke here, honk honk clown noise) but maybe it's just me idk
💯 I completely agree. A stream without Vedal and only one or both twins, they are just not as good and when Vedal isn't involved, the twins do not hold up nearly as well. Collabs are fine, but none are better than Vedal because he works so well off of them and they work so well off of him. He is a core part of the content, whether he realizes it or not. Just like when MatPat left his channels, I would check in from time to time, but I don't watch it like I used to because it's just not the same without him. The same applies here. I'd check in, but I don't think I'd be able to watch as much and enjoy it. The monday Dev streams are my favorite content of all because he is on them with one or both of the twins. I hope he realizes while people love the Twins, they also care that he is there and want him there. Fingers crossed this talk will stick with him and help him realize this.
Vedal underestimates the entertainment he brings to the channel. Neuro or vedal alone might not work as well, but their dynamic as a duo works extremely well cos they play off each other really well. Vedal's a straight man and they really need that chaos that neuro brings and vice versa.
Vedal been wearing that Neuro merch for 2 weeks. Ellie when she's saying she's eating beans on the toilet => Vedal: "Why would you do that?!" Vedal when he's saying his sleep schedule is screwed => Ellie: "Why would you do that?!"
Neuro rants sometimes reflect Vedal random whims. Hes someone that likes to speak to himself and maybe when that happens off stream and he forgot to turn off his mic and neuro is running. She listen to all his problems. And when solo streams and questions about the exact topic happens she will say the problems but in a hyperbole way so no one truly believes 100% what she said. Yeah, neuro rants and unhinged responses sometimes reflect tutel a lot lmao.
What’s even more fun is when you have a sleep doctor talk to your extremely educated parents and explain this to them only for them to discard it & come to the conclusion that I just lack the moral willpower & it’s an inherent character flaw. My body naturally wants to stay awake for ~18ish hours and then sleep ~12 hours. With enough struggle I can get to 15 hours awake & 9 hours asleep but I always feel tired. I’m cooked
For a long time I had a suspicion that I may have a longer than 24h circadian rhythm, I'm surprised when she said that such a condition actually exists.
Hello fellow I didn't understand there was a name for this thing I've always done people. As always, it's good to see that I'm not alone in this. It is crazy how the world looks down on you for it though. Makes me hate the stupid morning people subconsciously.
Makes sense why he sounds tired, aside from the 'British debuff.' It’s also impressive how he’s able to respond to calls almost anytime, especially when other VTubers randomly reach out to him.
This was a super interesting chat Ellie kinda echoed my feelings on Neuro's success and how much if it is actually down to Vedal being on stream. Like obviously neuro herself is incredibly impressive technically and demonstrates Vedal's skill as a programmer, and she can make for interesting content interacting with chat or Evil, but ultimately she's at her best when interacting with other streamers, and Vedel is simply the best in that regard
Lmao I have the non-circadian rhythm insomnia. 26 hour circadium cycle here. as vedal was describing it i was like "yo thats the same as me". and then ellie brought it up and i was like "mmhm"
@xd3athclawx554 Haha yeah and then after 12 days we've done a full cycle and are back to normal human hours for a couple days, then it starts all over again.
13:02 there was Kwebblekwop, but that was a train wreck and the channel pretty much died The process and watching Neuro grow up is a huge part of her popularity. Neuro is a fountain of knowledge for AI developers. Most companies wouldn’t want to drop their AI in front of something as chaotic as twitch chat. I’m certain ppl watch to learn from his mistakes
A longer circadian rhythm doesn't necessarily make a disorder or the consequence of one, it might be the environment Vedal creates around himself that disrupts his sleep schedule. There was that one experiment where a scientist holed himself up with a cave, no clocks, completely zero sunlight, limited contact with people through remote communication but enough stuff to do to keep the body active and brain stimulated, and his sleep schedule approached a 48h cycle instead of 24h. Oh, and of course too much screen time further affects your schedule. Is it still bad despite it possibly not being indicator of a disorder? Of course it is, you alienate yourself from your surroundings and get less sunlight, as well you might still suffer some long term consequences from sleep deprivation despite you not necessarily feeling them.
4:53 I think I have this too lol. Over the years, the time I sleep keeps shifting later and later to where I’m sleeping at like 5-7am now. It’s so bad and I can’t fix it long term lol.
I function way better at night and sleep during the morning.....if society wouldn't force us to be up during the day i would have preferred that way of life way more lol....sadly i do kinda like the sun during spring/summer.
I have noticed a growing trend on youtube of various ai Vtuber and ai home companion videos that are titled or thumbnailed things like "OpenNeuro project" or advertised as "you own personal Neuro-sama". I've seen more than one pop up on the youtube home screen claiming to have been a hacked "rebuild" of Neuro-Sama's base code too. Just an hour ago spotted a youtube video regarding one such ai channel on youtube that looks to be coming online soon. I think we are going to see a swell in AI VTubers this year that all claim to be "like Neuro but X".
Yeah, I've got the non-24 thing. I've missed out on plenty of raises and promotions indirectly because of it. But it's one of those issues that can easily, and potentially unederstandably not be helped by the Americans with Disabilities act.
Vedal can retire in certain level somehow, or at least increase a lot the time for himself, but yet appears sometimes in streams with Neuro, Evil or vtuber collabs like he had with Ellie, not for money or work but for fun.
as long as you're not a direct competitor to the creator it's not a problem. react slop is mostly bad when one reacts to a documentary or an informative video because then the viewer is likely never watch the original.
@@MorbiusBlueBalls I tried to add to any react video I do. I typically react to clip compilations and I might actually react up to three times longer than the original video is that I’m watching. Anyone who sees my stuff can confirm this. My latest reaction was 2 1/2 hours long in the video. I reacted to was 50 minutes. What’s the point of a reaction video if you don’t react to the stuff that’s in the video right?
Honestly, Neuro kinda sucks, all the magic comes from Vedal. The streams with Neuro and Evil are downright boring, and when they're with someone else it depends on how funny the other person is.
I think solo streams that have a theme are good...and honestly the solo streams done by Neuro and evil are more entertaining then similar streams done by human creators...
Vedal desperately trying to convince himself that people don't like HIM that much and one beautiful day he'll get to sneak out the back door and never come back. I don't think so, turtle boy.
Anny ALONE will keep his ass coming back to the spotlight whether he wants to or not XD
@@intenseavarice34vedal is really good at ignoring people, what is anny gonna do? Send him a dm? Oh wow, its nos like people make fun of vedal for not looking at dms XD
There is no Neuro without Vedal! Even beyond him programming her. I think Ellie is 100% right when she said that Vedal playing the straight man to Neuro's chaotic nature just works.
Honestly im a bigger Vedal fan than i am a neuro or evil fan, it's wild
@@ripbraincells8534 Same honestly. I like watching clips of Neuro on her own, but I'll watch full archived streams of Vedal and Neuro playing games, or coding.
Even Vedal's sleep has issues with latency...
Lmao 🤣
Don't say the "L" word 🤫
Vedal really found the magic fomula, and it sounds to me like he may not fully realize just how delicate the balance is on the front-end. He is one of the very few people who know how to handle and talk to Neuro, not to mention the thing Ellie talked about with Vedal continuously being the "straight man" to the twins' antics. Human interaction is key in AI content, that's why most AI-only entertainment fails. He sees himself as a background character and doesn't want to get involved too much, but he's as much of an anchor for the channel as Neuro and Evil are. Each one of that trio plays a very important role in the group dynamic, and Vedal's absence would seriously upset that. No amount of colabs will ever be able to replace him.
I 100% agree
I feel a bit guilty, but I refuse to watch the streams if vedal is not apart of it 😭 Will definitely watch clips, but vedal has to be one of my favorite parts of the streams and I fear for when he plans to go ahead with his full automation ai
Poor Vedal. He's got that detatched aloof attitude that you have to have when dealing with lab rats. But over this subathon, he's taken *soooo* much spirit damage. Evil hit him with "goodnight, daddy." when he tucked her in, and he got so flustered. Not in a naughty way. You could see his face even though he wasn't on screen.
🤗
That one pierced his armor, and left a mark he won't forget.
@Cortizelic Straight up for me it depends, I'll stick around if it's Anny or Camila (Probably adding Ellie to the list because the robot stuff is just fascinating) because Neuro/Evil can be entertaining with both of them but with insert random vtuber it gets old, Neuro is more interesting when you forget it's not an actual person yet it's having actual conversations with people not just (Instead joke here, honk honk clown noise) but maybe it's just me idk
💯 I completely agree. A stream without Vedal and only one or both twins, they are just not as good and when Vedal isn't involved, the twins do not hold up nearly as well. Collabs are fine, but none are better than Vedal because he works so well off of them and they work so well off of him. He is a core part of the content, whether he realizes it or not. Just like when MatPat left his channels, I would check in from time to time, but I don't watch it like I used to because it's just not the same without him. The same applies here. I'd check in, but I don't think I'd be able to watch as much and enjoy it.
The monday Dev streams are my favorite content of all because he is on them with one or both of the twins. I hope he realizes while people love the Twins, they also care that he is there and want him there. Fingers crossed this talk will stick with him and help him realize this.
"please tell Vedal that ellie has a problem with her AI"
Ellie was so goddamn spot on why Neuro is so popular. It’s not just her that we love, it’s Vedal as well.
Vedal underestimates the entertainment he brings to the channel. Neuro or vedal alone might not work as well, but their dynamic as a duo works extremely well cos they play off each other really well.
Vedal's a straight man and they really need that chaos that neuro brings and vice versa.
the man has a subathonnto run while still interacting with his friends from different timezones, he's more overworked than most desk job workers
But he has the money of the company CEO that those desk job employees work for.
Vedal been wearing that Neuro merch for 2 weeks.
Ellie when she's saying she's eating beans on the toilet => Vedal: "Why would you do that?!"
Vedal when he's saying his sleep schedule is screwed => Ellie: "Why would you do that?!"
One of those is slightly less common than the other, in fairness
Oh thats why Neuro keep calling him stinky😭
Came for stinky Vedal, stayed for a fascinating and wholesome meta conversation about Vedal and Neuro's success
Maybe Neuro was onto smth when she continued to mention the room smell. ALL NEURORATS ARE REAL
Neuro rants sometimes reflect Vedal random whims. Hes someone that likes to speak to himself and maybe when that happens off stream and he forgot to turn off his mic and neuro is running. She listen to all his problems. And when solo streams and questions about the exact topic happens she will say the problems but in a hyperbole way so no one truly believes 100% what she said. Yeah, neuro rants and unhinged responses sometimes reflect tutel a lot lmao.
Ellie therapy seasons, guess vedal can only open up to robots LUL
Vedal's got that CIA enhanced interrogation technique sleep schedule
Passion project = love = He loves her!
4:44 I can't believe there's a name for my condition, I thought I was just "bad at sleeping"
What’s even more fun is when you have a sleep doctor talk to your extremely educated parents and explain this to them only for them to discard it & come to the conclusion that I just lack the moral willpower & it’s an inherent character flaw. My body naturally wants to stay awake for ~18ish hours and then sleep ~12 hours. With enough struggle I can get to 15 hours awake & 9 hours asleep but I always feel tired. I’m cooked
@@carlstevens781 sorta is an inherent flaw no? just not a liminal one.
Same. I knew my poor sleep schedule probably has something to do with my adhd but I didn't realize it was a legit standalone condition.
For a long time I had a suspicion that I may have a longer than 24h circadian rhythm, I'm surprised when she said that such a condition actually exists.
Hello fellow I didn't understand there was a name for this thing I've always done people. As always, it's good to see that I'm not alone in this. It is crazy how the world looks down on you for it though. Makes me hate the stupid morning people subconsciously.
Makes sense why he sounds tired, aside from the 'British debuff.' It’s also impressive how he’s able to respond to calls almost anytime, especially when other VTubers randomly reach out to him.
Seems like he's used to waking up to do some work on an alarm with Neuro. Getting a phone ringing probably has a similar vibe to sleep brain
Vedal humanizes Neuro.
Ellie won’t let the turtle be self deprecating
This was a super interesting chat
Ellie kinda echoed my feelings on Neuro's success and how much if it is actually down to Vedal being on stream.
Like obviously neuro herself is incredibly impressive technically and demonstrates Vedal's skill as a programmer, and she can make for interesting content interacting with chat or Evil, but ultimately she's at her best when interacting with other streamers, and Vedel is simply the best in that regard
Lmao I have the non-circadian rhythm insomnia. 26 hour circadium cycle here. as vedal was describing it i was like "yo thats the same as me". and then ellie brought it up and i was like "mmhm"
Same. Deducts from my sleep really when I cant fall asleep as early as I should
literally same. I will always go to bed like 2 or so hours later than I do the night before.
@xd3athclawx554 Haha yeah and then after 12 days we've done a full cycle and are back to normal human hours for a couple days, then it starts all over again.
Yes. This so much, a 2 hour longer day would be a blessing.
Oh shit Ellie got a new model? Looks hella cute
This is from her stream debuting it
We come for the AI we stay for the Tutel
4:40 Been diagnosed with ADHD and I keep saying that my sleep schedule would thrive on a 26-28h / day cycle. I guess I can have a suspicion to why now
15:10 Vedal got good connections with BTMC and the osu! community which had a big impact on recognition. That's atleast how I found Vedal
Should we expect a replenishment on neurosama dоt shop then? sniffa
I'd say we can expect it.
god ellie is so adorable
I straight up don't watch neuro if vedal isn't there. Vedal is the main thing for me, and neuro is the trusty sidekick.
Absolutely, I find it kinda boring when she's alone, so I don't even watch
I have same problem with sleep as vedal. I just don’t sleep… sometimes for 36 hours
I remember the longest time I stayed up was 32 hours straight and the whole time I was rewatching One Piece.
@@snicksss what the fuck
13:02 there was Kwebblekwop, but that was a train wreck and the channel pretty much died
The process and watching Neuro grow up is a huge part of her popularity. Neuro is a fountain of knowledge for AI developers. Most companies wouldn’t want to drop their AI in front of something as chaotic as twitch chat. I’m certain ppl watch to learn from his mistakes
A longer circadian rhythm doesn't necessarily make a disorder or the consequence of one, it might be the environment Vedal creates around himself that disrupts his sleep schedule. There was that one experiment where a scientist holed himself up with a cave, no clocks, completely zero sunlight, limited contact with people through remote communication but enough stuff to do to keep the body active and brain stimulated, and his sleep schedule approached a 48h cycle instead of 24h. Oh, and of course too much screen time further affects your schedule.
Is it still bad despite it possibly not being indicator of a disorder? Of course it is, you alienate yourself from your surroundings and get less sunlight, as well you might still suffer some long term consequences from sleep deprivation despite you not necessarily feeling them.
48 hour sleep/awake cycle? Thats crazy. I wonder for how long did he sleep for.
@PadaV4 Don't remember, but I believe they even made a documentary about it so there's definitely info to go around online.
4:53 I think I have this too lol. Over the years, the time I sleep keeps shifting later and later to where I’m sleeping at like 5-7am now. It’s so bad and I can’t fix it long term lol.
Look at the bright side, eventually it will shift more and more until it's back to "normal" times
gym fixes that actually i have that too but when i do shit outside the house that takes energy it helps manage it also coffee
Thank you Staz!
He gotta wash those programer socks
thank you for reminding me that i need to be up in 50 minutes
Hope you are asleep now
Your a vtuber, why need cloths
True … vtubers have no problems
Mr. Worldwide sleep schedule
I function way better at night and sleep during the morning.....if society wouldn't force us to be up during the day i would have preferred that way of life way more lol....sadly i do kinda like the sun during spring/summer.
Thanks Ellie for speaking some of Swarm opinions to Vedal
3:20 Why do I feel that concerned voice directed at me xd
As long as he takes his shower this doesn't bother that much
Welp... I originally came in for Vedal. The 1st clips that made me stick around was him popping up on random VTuber streams just chatting
Neuro was telling the truth but i laughed it off 💀
i had this sleep rotating thing during unemployment, keeps rotating further and further, it was worse than vedal at one point.
Laundry stream is content
Easy to doxx too.
I have noticed a growing trend on youtube of various ai Vtuber and ai home companion videos that are titled or thumbnailed things like "OpenNeuro project" or advertised as "you own personal Neuro-sama". I've seen more than one pop up on the youtube home screen claiming to have been a hacked "rebuild" of Neuro-Sama's base code too.
Just an hour ago spotted a youtube video regarding one such ai channel on youtube that looks to be coming online soon.
I think we are going to see a swell in AI VTubers this year that all claim to be "like Neuro but X".
I swear to god if Anny reacts to this…
SNIFFA
That explains his idea of the flippable neuro t shirt merch
6pm is morning....
Yes it is, don't deny facts
Yeah, I've got the non-24 thing. I've missed out on plenty of raises and promotions indirectly because of it. But it's one of those issues that can easily, and potentially unederstandably not be helped by the Americans with Disabilities act.
I unironically have the same thing as vedal with my sleep cycle
Should’ve done the spinning wheel the first day 😂😂😂😂
Bro has to do mid subathon laundry 😭😭😭 irl laundry stream??
Ellie looks like she is being AI upscaled for some reason here
That face of ellie
i sleep at like 7 am too whys that a big deal? i dont like the sun and all the noise, the night is much better
bro is basically a vampire
Vedal can retire in certain level somehow, or at least increase a lot the time for himself, but yet appears sometimes in streams with Neuro, Evil or vtuber collabs like he had with Ellie, not for money or work but for fun.
15:48 As someone who does react content, (On Neuro and Evil content at that) I feel personally attacked by this. (Not really tho)
Don't worry we like your reacts
as long as you're not a direct competitor to the creator it's not a problem. react slop is mostly bad when one reacts to a documentary or an informative video because then the viewer is likely never watch the original.
@@MorbiusBlueBalls I tried to add to any react video I do. I typically react to clip compilations and I might actually react up to three times longer than the original video is that I’m watching. Anyone who sees my stuff can confirm this. My latest reaction was 2 1/2 hours long in the video. I reacted to was 50 minutes. What’s the point of a reaction video if you don’t react to the stuff that’s in the video right?
Oh hey blu
How the fuck often do normal people do laundry? Once every 2 months is common for me.
3:35
need ship art of vedal x latency x sleep
Is this a date ?
Yes
Perchance
I have never seen him being so chaty and open with a woman. Makes sense. Other girls will be jealous.
No
Maybe. 😅
Funny to think about as this all happens after Neuro tried to ship Ellie with Vedal.
we need you vedal
I bet the stream is still going
"React Slop" so many Vtubers Fuming RN
Aquwa in shambles
don't worry aquwa we love your reactions
Auction the clothes
Why is she structuring her thoughts and sentences so weirdly
What is that title...
Why is this the video of all that I'm learning about that I probably have this longer/shorter sleep rhythm 😭😭
Thats almost 3 weeks
Noice
*sniffa*
Helloww
As someone who has seen 0 streams or clips of just Neuro Ellie is 100% correct we watch more for the people surrending her than Neuro herself lol
Honestly, Neuro kinda sucks, all the magic comes from Vedal. The streams with Neuro and Evil are downright boring, and when they're with someone else it depends on how funny the other person is.
I think solo streams that have a theme are good...and honestly the solo streams done by Neuro and evil are more entertaining then similar streams done by human creators...
you have described like 70-80% of all streamers ever. most of them are boring
SNIFFA