Adds a differant twist when you add in the part where the husband and wife and child row out on a boat to hand their child over to the cult. There are parts of this movie that were deleted or never added. Thats why in the eyes wide shut part, when the child asks for a present for xmas, the child is always cut short and told she will just have to wait and see. The parents knowing that by then the child will no longer be theirs. We will never see or get this film as it was initially intended. I'm not sure if that was in the original book of course.
Thank you so much for this. I actually found Traumnovelle on UA-cam and watched it. And loved it. Wouldn't have known it existed if not for your video. Please do a comparison of Black Swan and Étoile.
You're work is absolutely phénoménal and the comparison absolutely mindblowing. EW Shut is one of my favorite movies ever, and the Schnitzler ' novel too.....But i c Was totally ignorant of the 1969 movie. Relating to Austria Hungary history and decay , leading to nazism and the Empire destruction, and only by seeing these clips i even consider the 1969 version putting more " ANGST".....
Indeed. Actually, he is Karl-Heinz Böhm, a renown austrian actor. He also took part in the "Sisi" film sequel, playing the role of the young emperor Franz-Josef, with R. Schneider as the empress Elisabeth.
@@yp3424 Yes, back when German movies were something worth watching (referring to the Traumnovelle... well, even Sisi isn't bad). Karl-Heinz Böhm was an excellent actor, especially when playing distorted roles.
Wow! This is absolutely the most revealing and insightful "analysis" of "Eyes Wide Shut" that I've ever seen--and you did this without saying a word! You, Sir, are brilliant! I had no idea at all about the Schnitzler book nor about the other film. Thank you so much for sharing this essential information. And thank God this was not yet another pretentious effort to dissect Kubrick by taking liberal interpretive license.
Y'all are a bunch of jokers lmao, after finding out EWS is based on a book and that a film had been made in the 60s it's now, "Secret society was exposed in 60" gtfoh.
All he did? I don't know. He didn't made too much movies in the end. Than he made this 12 years after his last one. I always felt he wanted to say something important. We knew the elite is pervert. Nobody need to tell us this. Remember there was rumors about content was cut out, and remember there is a scene where small people standing in the front row, small people with relatively bigger head. I think those were chidrens.
@@911randompsp It's human nature, in every human society all across the entirety of human history; It's always 10 to 20% of the population that strongly rule over the other 90-80% , usually societies are more stable when the vast majority of people's eyes are fully shut , At least 90% of the population ideally more. The difference between today and yesterday is that yesterday, the 90% of commoners being ruled were quite happy to be rulled, today, they believe they should not only not be ruled, but everyone should be a ruler. So is the people's eyes being wide shut the problem? The answer is no, whatever time you can think of that was better in some ways before, people's eyes were also wide shut. The problem is the ego and self-worship that people at large have today, to expect normal everyday people to open their eyes is not just absurd, it's cruel, they are not cognitively nor emotionally prepared to open their eyes, so if you tried to bring them into reality, the first group of people that would fight you on it wouldn't be the Elites , it'd be the fucking commoners, and since they're brutes and have the numbers, chances are...they'd probably eat you alive.
This is a very important comparison. Kubrick would use a novel as the structure upon which he’d communicate his own themes - much like a Jazz musician uses musical “standards” to explore other themes. Can you go back a step an start with the novel?
if the older version follows the 1925 novel closer than Kubrick does it should be a bit more tame. I can't say for sure as I haven't seen the 1969 adaptation. I do know even though the main character does sneak into a secret gathering, the building is nothing fancy or expensive like in EWS. the masked attendees are in the book as are the naked women but there is no actual sex scene. No scene where the main character is asked to take his clothes off. No sense of like a ritualistic event.
Traumnovelle ('69) is actually very quite good, and for some scenes, IMHO, does a better job than EWS (for example the costume shop with the "Lolitaish" daughter, and the Mitzi prostitute scene.) I highly recommend the '69 version as the acting is even better at times! I wonder if Kubrick saw this version of Traumnovelle, but either way, each piece of art has its own pros and cons on the source novel!
Hi Greg. Although I can not prove it, I am totally sure that Stanley knew the adaptation by Wolfgang Glück. Incidentally, when EWS came out, Wolfgang Glück, the director of "Traumnovelle" was invited to segment of a TV show on the Austrian TV. He told the interviewer that Kubrick had called him and asked for details concerning austrian brothels and whorehouses- he asked specifically, if memory serves, that Glück send him photographs. That was while he was actually shooting EWS.
A side-by-side, shot-for-shot comparison between Stanley Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut (1999) and Traumnovelle (1969), two film adaptations of Rhapsody: A Dream Novel by Arthur Schnitzler.
Wolfgang Glück Traumnovelle"s director (1969) (three 6), was born on September 29, 1929 in Vienna, Austria. september is month 9/ day 29/ 1929 (three 6)
I have seen Traumnovelle thinking it's eerily similar to EWS. I have read that Kubrick knew the novel but wasn't even sure if there was a movie in it. Frederic Raphael adapted the novel into a screenplay.
@@msd5808 The book is originally written in German. Ive read Stanley read the book via his fathers library or perhaps at Colombia university in the 1940s. That his wife Ruth Sobotka may have introduced the book to him in the early 50s. Kirk Douglas claims his psychiatrist introduced Traumnovelle to Kubrick in 1959. Jan Harlan is asked to acquire the story rights in 1969 and does so in 1970 for like $69,000 in 1970 money. Harlan makes a rough translation of the German book within a month.
@@Gothicsummer67 I don't remember hearing he read it when so young. There was already an English translation before the 60s by Otto Schinnerer for Simon & Schuster in 1927. I have a copy.
@@msd5808 I didn't say there wasn't already a translated version before Jan. I bring him up because he specifically worked alongside Kubrick whenKubrick could not source the rights to its original translation. Im not exactly sure what you mean by Kubrick not being aware of "this old German one." if we are talking about the German novel, James B. Harris, Kubricks producing partner and Michael Herr who co scripted Full Metal Jacket both confirm Stanley had already read the book before 1955. Kubrick was well aware of Arthur Shnitzler. We don't know if Stanley actually saw the television adaptation above in 1969 only that Andreas Conrad suggests he did ask to view it. Stanley was aware of this Austrian film.
Wow! I've never seen the 1969 version before. But you can really see how much better Eyes Wide Shut is. The old version looks so dull while Eyes Wide Shut has some of the best cinematography of all time and is able to communicate its story, tone and themes through visuals very effectively. The whole masked ball scene is the biggest difference to me. The way the camera moves, the choice of colors, the masks. There isn't even a need for music for the Eyes Wide Shut scene to be super unsettling. Kubrick is truly one of the best directors of all time. And Eyes Wide Shut is my favorite movie of his.
If the 1969 version looks dull, that was because it is a made-for-TV production. Apparently they had some budget limitations and they couldn't do a more ambitious film like the 90s version, so to me it still is a very decent adaptation. It was another decade (remember it was the 60s), so you can't ignore or snob the Austrian version just because they hadn't more budget to do something bigger than Kubrick.
Well, a TV-movie from 60s can hardly compare to a big budget feature film but the comparison in this video isn't really fair. It looks like an old SD master made from a print that suffered from quite a bit of fading.
@msd Stanley would scrutinize every detail of every frame and examine top down and sideways a script till he visually consumed his own project. Not knowing this earlier film adaptation which on quick glance seems strikingly identical is troubling. Afraid to say it but seems like a knock off by one of the greats. Not denying the lure and strong impression of EWS but if Stanely was closely following this earlier fil adaptation then perhaps that explains the short coming of EWS. He failed to make it his own version with his unique perspective and twist. Still a noteworthy endeavor. Maybe he was secretly hired to redo this film to cap the end of the century and his legacy.
If anything the 1969 adaptation follows the original 1920s book way more than Kubrick does. The 1969 version is even based in the early 1900s Vienna as the book is, EWS is based in late 90s New York. Kubrick follows visual queues as reference but ads a lot more scenes than the original novel.
Wow! Great comparisons! It still floors me why Stan would want to go with such a movie? Nothing against the original Traumnovelle, it looks decent enough for it's time. And at that time was equal rights and women's lib. But for Stan to take on such a limp story, and really not do much more to broaden it or sensationalize it in 1999... It still doesn't seem like something Stan would want to do? Other than the big high budget orgy scene, which would've worked better in a remake of Dr. Strangelove. It'd be like Quintin Tarantino remaking Play Misty For Me or Fatal Attraction - maybe more swears, nudity, and violence than the original, and.....? If anyone could see a 'cop out' more than Quintin can, I always thought it would be Stan for sure. Just such a let down for me.
I don’t think this movie or Kubrick really is trying to talk about the moon landing or the possibility of it being fake. I think it more about waking up to the things you haven’t seen before, because you didn’t want to choose to see it.
a garbage theory that putted out to distracted as many people as possible. They could said George Lucas fake the moon landing, but then Lucas has to die. No he still young(let him make some prequels) compared to 70 something Kubrick
Nice editing, thanks for posting this, Matt. I wasn't aware of the 1969 version and I've been a fan of EWS for many years.
I believe this was a tv series. there was also a film adaptation in 1989 called Nightmare in Venice.
Adds a differant twist when you add in the part where the husband and wife and child row out on a boat to hand their child over to the cult. There are parts of this movie that were deleted or never added. Thats why in the eyes wide shut part, when the child asks for a present for xmas, the child is always cut short and told she will just have to wait and see. The parents knowing that by then the child will no longer be theirs. We will never see or get this film as it was initially intended. I'm not sure if that was in the original book of course.
Hi do you have an email where I can contact you? Id like to hear more about the deleted scenes, thanks!
Thank you so much for this. I actually found Traumnovelle on UA-cam and watched it. And loved it. Wouldn't have known it existed if not for your video.
Please do a comparison of Black Swan and Étoile.
Or Black Swan and Perfect Blue or the Three of them.
I did read the novel after seeing the movie in theaters in 99. I had no idea about the 1969 version ! Thank you for this editing
Wow, Eyes Wide Shut is dazzling!
You're work is absolutely phénoménal and the comparison absolutely mindblowing. EW Shut is one of my favorite movies ever, and the Schnitzler ' novel too.....But i c
Was totally ignorant of the 1969 movie.
Relating to Austria Hungary history and decay , leading to nazism and the Empire destruction, and only by seeing these clips i even consider the 1969 version putting more " ANGST".....
Check this out. It may give some clue to what SKubrick showed in EWShut
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One of the best videos i have seen in the last time!!! amazing
The actor playing “Dr Bill” in 1969 looks like Michael Shannon.
Indeed. Actually, he is Karl-Heinz Böhm, a renown austrian actor. He also took part in the "Sisi" film sequel, playing the role of the young emperor Franz-Josef, with R. Schneider as the empress Elisabeth.
@@yp3424 Yes, back when German movies were something worth watching (referring to the Traumnovelle... well, even Sisi isn't bad).
Karl-Heinz Böhm was an excellent actor, especially when playing distorted roles.
Character is called “Fridolin”
Wow! This is absolutely the most revealing and insightful "analysis" of "Eyes Wide Shut" that I've ever seen--and you did this without saying a word! You, Sir, are brilliant! I had no idea at all about the Schnitzler book nor about the other film. Thank you so much for sharing this essential information. And thank God this was not yet another pretentious effort to dissect Kubrick by taking liberal interpretive license.
Secret society was exposed in 60's in the movie but this things has been going on and on for centuries
Y'all are a bunch of jokers lmao, after finding out EWS is based on a book and that a film had been made in the 60s it's now, "Secret society was exposed in 60" gtfoh.
@@timbuktu777 Yup, you're definitely part of the eyes wide shut.
@@13Gangland jokers you lot!
"Everything's a copy of a copy of a copy"
- Fight Club
Nope, the original will always be.
Incredible work...Thank you !
i had no idea about the traumnovelle. great now i need to see it...
All Kubrick did was point to something no one wanted to look at....for the final time
All he did? I don't know. He didn't made too much movies in the end. Than he made this 12 years after his last one. I always felt he wanted to say something important. We knew the elite is pervert. Nobody need to tell us this. Remember there was rumors about content was cut out, and remember there is a scene where small people standing in the front row, small people with relatively bigger head. I think those were chidrens.
@@Zodroo_Tint ok
90% Peoples eyes are still wide shut
Try 98%
What’s worse is people who think they’re “awake” but still believe everything they see on the news.
@@jason5265 Its like Denzel Washington said on training day "90% of the news is bull****".
The news is as much to blame for controlling the masses.
@@jason5265 Yes
@@911randompsp
It's human nature, in every human society all across the entirety of human history; It's always 10 to 20% of the population that strongly rule over the other 90-80% , usually societies are more stable when the vast majority of people's eyes are fully shut , At least 90% of the population ideally more.
The difference between today and yesterday is that yesterday, the 90% of commoners being ruled were quite happy to be rulled, today, they believe they should not only not be ruled, but everyone should be a ruler.
So is the people's eyes being wide shut the problem? The answer is no, whatever time you can think of that was better in some ways before, people's eyes were also wide shut.
The problem is the ego and self-worship that people at large have today, to expect normal everyday people to open their eyes is not just absurd, it's cruel, they are not cognitively nor emotionally prepared to open their eyes, so if you tried to bring them into reality, the first group of people that would fight you on it wouldn't be the Elites , it'd be the fucking commoners, and since they're brutes and have the numbers, chances are...they'd probably eat you alive.
This is a very important comparison. Kubrick would use a novel as the structure upon which he’d communicate his own themes - much like a Jazz musician uses musical “standards” to explore other themes. Can you go back a step an start with the novel?
This was great, awesome job.
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Thomas and friends the adventure begins
yes this video is really amazing
Great job!
I had no idea.
ITS FANTASTIC VIDEO
The older version is actually more unsettling to me then the current version
Usually I would agree with the old version but this one nah. Guy reminds me more of a Robin Hood.
Unfortunately , it's because of that the second one is more realistic 💔 God protect me and my children from that
if the older version follows the 1925 novel closer than Kubrick does it should be a bit more tame. I can't say for sure as I haven't seen the 1969 adaptation. I do know even though the main character does sneak into a secret gathering, the building is nothing fancy or expensive like in EWS. the masked attendees are in the book as are the naked women but there is no actual sex scene. No scene where the main character is asked to take his clothes off. No sense of like a ritualistic event.
Wow! Amazing....!!!
Good work!
Grey Clouds is, of course Liszt. The “Musica Ricercata” (2 pitch) piece employed, is Ligeti.
Traumnovelle ('69) is actually very quite good, and for some scenes, IMHO, does a better job than EWS (for example the costume shop with the "Lolitaish" daughter, and the Mitzi prostitute scene.) I highly recommend the '69 version as the acting is even better at times! I wonder if Kubrick saw this version of Traumnovelle, but either way, each piece of art has its own pros and cons on the source novel!
I need to watch it.
What acting scenes in EWS did you not like?
This is what I saw when I watched recently 👉🏻 ua-cam.com/video/Gcob6YQXbCE/v-deo.html
Hi Greg.
Although I can not prove it, I am totally sure that Stanley knew the adaptation by Wolfgang Glück. Incidentally, when EWS came out, Wolfgang Glück, the director of "Traumnovelle" was invited to segment of a TV show on the Austrian TV. He told the interviewer that Kubrick had called him and asked for details concerning austrian brothels and whorehouses- he asked specifically, if memory serves, that Glück send him photographs. That was while he was actually shooting EWS.
A side-by-side, shot-for-shot comparison between Stanley Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut (1999) and Traumnovelle (1969), two film adaptations of Rhapsody: A Dream Novel by Arthur Schnitzler.
I would recommend that you make a comparison to The Ten Commandments (1956)/ The Prince Of Egypt (1998)
Yeah do that please
Definitely at least Prince of Egypt was brief and got on with the story of the Exodus Ten Comnandments I like but it drags a little.
Wolfgang Glück Traumnovelle"s director (1969) (three 6), was born on September 29, 1929 in Vienna, Austria. september is month 9/ day 29/ 1929 (three 6)
Bravo 👏👏👏
Mais um livro de romance do estranho caso do dr.jekyll e Sr.hyde?
I have seen Traumnovelle thinking it's eerily similar to EWS. I have read that Kubrick knew the novel but wasn't even sure if there was a movie in it. Frederic Raphael adapted the novel into a screenplay.
It's strange to think he was not aware of this old German one
@@msd5808 The book is originally written in German. Ive read Stanley read the book via his fathers library or perhaps at Colombia university in the 1940s. That his wife Ruth Sobotka may have introduced the book to him in the early 50s. Kirk Douglas claims his psychiatrist introduced Traumnovelle to Kubrick in 1959. Jan Harlan is asked to acquire the story rights in 1969 and does so in 1970 for like $69,000 in 1970 money. Harlan makes a rough translation of the German book within a month.
@@Gothicsummer67 I don't remember hearing he read it when so young. There was already an English translation before the 60s by Otto Schinnerer for Simon & Schuster in 1927. I have a copy.
@@msd5808 I didn't say there wasn't already a translated version before Jan. I bring him up because he specifically worked alongside Kubrick whenKubrick could not source the rights to its original translation. Im not exactly sure what you mean by Kubrick not being aware of "this old German one." if we are talking about the German novel, James B. Harris, Kubricks producing partner and Michael Herr who co scripted Full Metal Jacket both confirm Stanley had already read the book before 1955. Kubrick was well aware of Arthur Shnitzler. We don't know if Stanley actually saw the television adaptation above in 1969 only that Andreas Conrad suggests he did ask to view it. Stanley was aware of this Austrian film.
@@Gothicsummer67 Okay, I did not know these things or have forgotten.
Can u do Thomas and friends the adventure begins side by side to the classic S1 series plz.
Papillon 1973/2017 please!
Wow! I've never seen the 1969 version before. But you can really see how much better Eyes Wide Shut is. The old version looks so dull while Eyes Wide Shut has some of the best cinematography of all time and is able to communicate its story, tone and themes through visuals very effectively. The whole masked ball scene is the biggest difference to me. The way the camera moves, the choice of colors, the masks. There isn't even a need for music for the Eyes Wide Shut scene to be super unsettling.
Kubrick is truly one of the best directors of all time. And Eyes Wide Shut is my favorite movie of his.
If the 1969 version looks dull, that was because it is a made-for-TV production. Apparently they had some budget limitations and they couldn't do a more ambitious film like the 90s version, so to me it still is a very decent adaptation. It was another decade (remember it was the 60s), so you can't ignore or snob the Austrian version just because they hadn't more budget to do something bigger than Kubrick.
Well, a TV-movie from 60s can hardly compare to a big budget feature film but the comparison in this video isn't really fair. It looks like an old SD master made from a print that suffered from quite a bit of fading.
IN THE 1969 VERSION OF THE MOVIE 🎥 DID THE DIRECTOR DIE 3 DAY'S AFTER IT WAS RELEASED???
LIKE STANLEY KUBRICK ???!!!
good question
He died 4 months before
@@everythingbobbywolfe : DID THE ILLUMINATI KILL HIM 2 ??
Tom Flendodo who cares Illuminati mafia killed some of their own people
His Wikipedia lists him as still alive.
...and the moral of the story to all my dudes is look but don't touch!! Dire consequences LOL
FİDELİO!!!
moonlight vs. in the mood for love
or
aything by barry jenkins vs. anything by wong kar-wai
Good 😅😀😂
Damn but this not only copied something it made the actual remake
The year on what this movies is release, it shows 666
Kubrick was obviously working from the earlier film. Many of the older shots were better than EWS
4:01 Missed a pair*
Hey Matt Skuta Tell Me Why This Got Age-Restricted Tell Me Replied Now
Casue Due Of Nudity So They Age-Restricted
Casino Royale 1954/2006
In the end more nudity wins! 🤯🤯🤯
@msd Stanley would scrutinize every detail of every frame and examine top down and sideways a script till he visually consumed his own project. Not knowing this earlier film adaptation which on quick glance seems strikingly identical is troubling. Afraid to say it but seems like a knock off by one of the greats.
Not denying the lure and strong impression of EWS but if Stanely was closely following this earlier fil adaptation then perhaps that explains the short coming of EWS. He failed to make it his own version with his unique perspective and twist. Still a noteworthy endeavor.
Maybe he was secretly hired to redo this film to cap the end of the century and his legacy.
If anything the 1969 adaptation follows the original 1920s book way more than Kubrick does. The 1969 version is even based in the early 1900s Vienna as the book is, EWS is based in late 90s New York. Kubrick follows visual queues as reference but ads a lot more scenes than the original novel.
ITS A REMAKE?
The Invitation vs Get Out
So no confusion according to Trauma ville she was (un-alived) by the cult in a ritualistic way.
EWS, A fitting swansong to the great man, thank you for providing our link in with comparisons to the source material.
1969 moon landing.. 1999 July 16th Jfk jr was killed in a plane crash
Naftalina
So Stanley wasn’t such a genius. All he did was a remake… like all of Hollywood…
And the long delayed but necessary devaluation of Kubrick’s half-baked and derivative work begins here ...
The earlier movie was done much better than Kubrick's imitation for the most part.
@@ottooldenhardt Without any doubt
Wow! Great comparisons! It still floors me why Stan would want to go with such a movie? Nothing against the original Traumnovelle, it looks decent enough for it's time. And at that time was equal rights and women's lib. But for Stan to take on such a limp story, and really not do much more to broaden it or sensationalize it in 1999... It still doesn't seem like something Stan would want to do? Other than the big high budget orgy scene, which would've worked better in a remake of Dr. Strangelove. It'd be like Quintin Tarantino remaking Play Misty For Me or Fatal Attraction - maybe more swears, nudity, and violence than the original, and.....? If anyone could see a 'cop out' more than Quintin can, I always thought it would be Stan for sure. Just such a let down for me.
Y
1969 = 666 1999 = 666
You’re good. Check this out.
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I thought kubrick was exposing the fake moonlNding.. MYbe it is REAL and not a theorist..
I don’t think this movie or Kubrick really is trying to talk about the moon landing or the possibility of it being fake. I think it more about waking up to the things you haven’t seen before, because you didn’t want to choose to see it.
a garbage theory that putted out to distracted as many people as possible. They could said George Lucas fake the moon landing, but then Lucas has to die. No he still young(let him make some prequels) compared to 70 something Kubrick
Kubrick is so overrated!
you are crazy
I wouldn't say he's overrated but he is over analyzed.