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This is maybe too broad a question, but could you cover some handy improvisations, or things you would rather make for yourself than buy and lug around with you? I'm thinking along the lines of using folded clothing instead of a camp pillow, but more technical and more practical.
@xRzeropoint79 I find that rolled-up clothes make a good enough pillow for me, it was more as an example of little things someone might not know a simple alternative for. Thanks for the information though :) That does sound like a cool piece of gear.
I've been using the upside-down method exclusively for years, but I do mine very differently than yours. No gaps, no tinder built-in. I lay my largest pieces side by side, tightly together without gaps. The next layer is smaller pieces, tightly packed side by side, usually at a 70 degree angle rather than 90, to retain more coals on the layer below it (so they don't fall off to the sides and smolder). Repeat this process layer by layer with ever smaller pieces until you have all your wood stacked. On top, I build a tinder/kindling/twig structure of pure chaos, with just enough material to burn for about 5-6 minutes and enough pinky sized twigs to generate some starting coals. My method takes longer to get going, but it burns very slowly and for a long time, and tends to re-burn the rising smoke from the layer beneath what's currently flaming. Advantages: It can be nearly smokefree when it gets rolling. You can use less dry material for your larger pieces, as they'll be drying for a long time from the layers above and the falling coals. Your wood lasts much longer as it burns layer by layer. You'll tend to burn 100% of your fuel with no left over chunks of char. Disadvantages: If you need heat "right now", this is not the one you want (cooking, drying off). You'll be waiting 15 minutes for it to start producing significant heat. Your top 2 layers need to be decently dry material to generate hot coals to continue the burn to the larger layers. Takes some axe skills to prep the correctly sized pieces (XL, L, M, S, XS is what I usually start with for layers, with XL being forearm sized and XS being pinky sized). Give this tactic a try sometime, I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised!
This is similar to how I built this fire as well. I typically don't fiddle much with the axe. Assuming I'm foraging firewood from the forest and not using prepared logs, I will typically try to find denser wood (e.g. hardwood if possible) for the bottom. Dead standing trees if possible. I'd use the base of those for the lower layers (as they are fatter) and then as I cut the rest of the tree moving on to the top layers. Top layers will typically be wrist size then fingers size branche. I could build that fire easily with just a folding saw. I saw some people put a little of dirt between the logs within a layer, to keep coals even and ensure a most even burn, as well as help keep thing level as you go higher. I haven' tried it yet though.
Man I've said it before - you have the best outdoor/bushcrafting/skillset videos around. Not only the quality of your cinematography and editing skills, but unique applications and solid data. Can't remember seeing anyone use a moisture meter in a fire test comparison video before. The only thing in your way now is time for the algorithm to catch up, so just don't quit - gonna be some views, some views, some views, BAM!!! Even if it takes a year.
log cabin fire is great for wet wood. if you can get a bit of pine resin place it on your tinder in the middle and it you can use the spaces between the logs of the “cabin” as grate bars for inserting your wet wood so that it both dries and ignites over the flame, and continue this until the top ignites
You can also easily dry bigger logs by arranging them vertically around the pyramid structure so they will both protect the main fire from the wind and eventually add themselves to the fire's fuel source and catch fire. Just make sure you leave some gaps so you don't cut off too much air.
If you want a good tip for an easy and cheap fire starter, just save the lint that gets caught in your dryer at home. That stuff is super flammable and you'll always be getting more. I keep a plastic bag full of it for when we go camping as an easy fire starter.
But you can also get hair in it and different materials and some might burn better than others and it could just smother it NorthOfTheBorder went over this before
Take the lint, put it in an egg carton, and cover the top with Vaseline for an incredible firestarter. A tip handed down to me by a random person at a camp-but it really works!
The log cabin fire technique is definitely my favorite and what I use most of the time. I find it much easier to add wood to it later without making it collapse because the coals naturally form a pyramid that the new logs can lean on without crushing the structure, compared to the teepee one. I also just start with a split log base to make the fire on, and if it's windy I protect it with some vertical logs stacked around it also. I find it also makes the best camp fires. The reverse fire is definitely the best for getting good coals for cooking, but doesn't make as good of a campfire when you just want to enjoy a good flame and light the campsite at the same time. I tend to completely avoid the teepee technique unless I want to smell like smoke and spend half the time rearranging the logs to prevent it from smothering itself.
I have seen other videos on this topic that were not nearly as detailed. Thank you for making this and being detailed with amount of wood, how much water is in that wood and thermal readings. Well done.
It would be super helpful if you could make a video about what are the best kind of ropes to buy and use for different situations, because your videos are super well put together and clean.
I’m really glad the algorithms guided me your way. Very well done and informative video. You really have all the tech gadgets to measure different fires 👏
I’m so glad you found the page.. and thanks for the kind words! I think it will take a while to build all the likeminded folks here, but welcome to the community :) -DJ
I like to use two logs with about a 6 inches diameter, I set them up parallel to each other with the gap pointed toward the prevailing wind. I put my tinder bundle between the logs and lay twigs like your log cabin fire. As the tinder and twigs burn, I add more and larger twigs, log cabin style. Once I get a nice bed of coals, I add bigger pieces. By then, the two main logs are burning well and I fill the gap with medium sized pieces. As the main logs are consumed, I push them closer together and add more twigs. Long lasting and easy to cook on and maintain.
Nice exposition. I've long been a proponent of the upside-down/reverse fire-lay and I avail myself of this method except when I need a fire going in a hurry. In addition to the merits you described, I find that learning to use that fire-lay forces one to acquire some knife and axe skills for wood-processing, which are advantageous skills to have for any backcountry camper. Cheers and all the best to you in this new year. - Martin
Martin!! Thanks for writing. Couldn’t agree more with the skill and refinement side of it. With all your experience I truly value your insights! Thx for watching man!
THANK YOU! I've understood and used basic fire skills for years. The way you presented each, and especially the thermal imagining, was new for me, and my understanding is FAR more solid now! I can't wait to try this out in my backyard. Also, I've pretry much failed to help my kiddos understand fire building. (We're all a little impatient lol) I really think this'll help them both, and I plan to test that this weekend 😁🤞🤞 I'm going to enjoy your vids😊
WOW! Friggin' science, I LOVE how much detail and diligence went into this test, super impressive and helpful knowledge! Definitely going to binge watch more of your stuff, thank you!!!
First time seeing your videos, glad they’re on my recommendation. I’m at zero level as I’ve never been camping, didn’t go to Girl Scouts either. But I love nature and learning about how to go on in it. 👍
Thank you, DJ! True, we need to relearn these essentials. Thinking if someone goes swimming and then needs to dry off, can't say which fire lay to choose from. The reverse fire may burn hotter but it takes longer to reach that point. May not be suitable also if weather conditions are harsh. Teepee and cabin seem more appropriate for the job. Feel free to give your thoughts. Keep up the great work and here's to 2023 vids! 👍
My father taught me to use the Log Cabin and the Reverse Fire fires since I was maybe nine or ten. It's how I've always done it, actually exactly like I did it tonight. I usually use corks wrapped in newspaper as my little firestarter, it slow burns very nicely and helps the kindling catch. Great video!
perfect video. You have a natural cheeky grin when you talk and it makes me laugh for no reason as I watch. I have learned so much from your channel it blows my mind.
What an outstanding tutorial: a meticulously scientific approach, allowing us to note with confidence the conclusions reached and put them to work in the field. Subbed straight away... keep 'em coming, comrade.
I just realized that they missed their chance to name their channel “the bear necessities” THE SIMPLE BEAR NECESSITIES FORGEZt ABOUT YOUR WORRIES AND YOUR STRESS sorry but this was a really good and helpful video
Your rational, explanations, just bar none!! Ive tried, used all theee!!! Must say, you gave the science to why I have my preferences... thank you!!! Now I can better plan which type I use for the desired outcome!!!
Just found your channel! GREAT content! The science teacher in me loves your scientific approach to comparing the three different types, and the camper in me loves the "best use" classifications! I'm an "old Faithful/Log cabin" fan. I honestly haven't tried the other two, but I stick with what works for me. I'll try them next time I'm out.
Man I start a teepee fire to get it going, and once it's going well I knock my logs over, and rearrange them into a larger bed. Seems a lot easier, and faster than the reverse fire. Gets going hot quick, and once you have those coals you can arrange them how you want, and just start building from there. There's no obligation to keep the shape that you used to start the fire. Idk seems a bit unnecessary for me. I appreciate your content greatly though 😎✊🏼
Only found your channel yesterday. I was in a house fire as a small child and the pyrophobia that I developed was, well, pretty inconveniencing and embarrassing. I dealt with it as an adult by learning all about the science of fire (mainly as it related to buildings) and mass panic behaviour in emergencies. But, as a professional gardener and woodland worker, I decided to be the best fire setter I could be. It was also because I was really disgusted by colleagues who would throw diesel (kerosene?) fuel around to get a big brash fire going. My (usually intelligent) boss once demonstrated the effects of a high energy accelerant, by throwing petrol (gasoline) onto a lacklustre fire. He will not be doing that again. He wasn’t hurt, but the verbal burn I gave him was something I was something to behold, apparently. I have a flint & steel, a baggie of sheep’s wool (I also make felt) and cotton wool balls. I always save bits and pieces of wood waste for tinder (elderly, knackered laundry baskets are great for this!). I have a Kelly Kettle so can start a fire in a monsoon if necessary (although I’m a Brit, so we don’t have them). Boiled water in minutes plus all the embers you need for a proper fire. And I taught myself to make charcoal. I still won’t tolerate candles indoors. They killed my friend’s ex-partner and their child when one ignited the tv.
Hi. I’m Keith. I grew up on a ranch in Texas. I basically camped every day from 5 -18 years old😂! I still think it’s more accurate to call it back yard camping because we always had the option of making it back to the house when we got fed up with the weather, bugs, etc!
What a great video! Excellent presentation, thorough, straight to the point. Been learning/ practicing bushcraft / wild camping in my backyard for almost a year now. I have tarp tent skills down, forging wood, batoning, fire starting, sleep system dialing in.. navigation is next on my list. I have learned that if i I need quick heat to warm up and cook, TeePee is the go to. Then I’ll scrape the coals forward and build a top down for the next round. Relocate some of those coals to help start it, keep cooking on the rest. I keep all sorts of backup starters in my pack: a few short lengths of fat wood; cotton balls in Vaseline; lots of thin twine rope; some duct tape; two bic lighters, matches, and even an old fashion zippo. If push comes to shove.. a touch of alcohol from my stove bottle does the job for an unsuccessful rainy day! 😂 Not very bushcrafty.. but hey, it’s not called survival for nothing 😉 After all that.. my goal is to always try foraging first. Thanks for the vid. I just subscribed! Looking forward to checking out your content!
Wow thanks for sharing all this, great idea with the Teepee first then following it up! No judgement on your bushcraft and survival prep, everyone has their own preferences and I love the knowledge share. That’s the best part!!
I really appreciate your analytical approach here. The IR camera gave us info that we had not had before. Thank you. To be fair, one of the reasons that the inverse fire lasted longer is because it had about twice as much material to begin with. Then, the inverse layup extended its life. It would have been interesting to have seen an example #4, and have it be a Dakota hole layup. Maybe another time? A favorite quick-short lived fire of mine is built in a shallow depression. Using the back edge of a boot/shoe heel, spin around a time or three to dig out a bowl. Lay twigs in an inverse tepee. Shave off all bark and debris from the end 4”-5” of a couple twigs. Dip the clean ends into the gas tank of your motorcycle. (You DID bring one of those along, didn’t you?). Recap the tank! Lay those wet ends into the bottom point of the tepee and drop in a match. Add water to your camp pot and set it on the fire. If you want to have a prolonged cooking fire, first lay 3 stones about the size of a golf ball into the sides of the bowl depression as a pot support. Arrange them to do their job. Then lay and light the fire. VOILA! Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
The inverse fire had the exact same material as the others, I stacked them evenly and weighed them all too! Each received the same amount of tinder as well. A pack pouch worth. That dugout is a great idea, and yes I’ll likely compare some advanced and nuanced fire lays like the Dakota pit one day in the future too!!
Someone else mentioned in the comment, and I fully agree, that this isn't necessarily the best way to build an upside down. But there are great pros to it as mentioned in the video. The other thing I'd mention about it is that of all those presented here, it's probably the one that scales the best. You could use 6' long full logs to make the base and stack multiple layers (5....6....7...8....) or you could start smaller and keep it to 3-4 layers. The tipi doesn't scall so well, and the log cabin is a little bit in between. The issue with scaling those 2 is making a stable structure with larger stuff, and then having to re-arrange bigger pieces as they collapse.
Wow, I just happened onto this video. I recently moved from TX to CO. Some RVing and real camping in TX, but it’s the real thing here. Thanks for this primer on fires, my my first on camping know how.
My favorite fire lay is a combo between your examples of log cabin and reverse. what I do is build 3 layers of a log cabin then 1 layer like the reverse, thin I build 3 more layers of hollow log cabin then fill in the top, like the reverse then light it from the top and middle. It truly is a hybrid of the log cabin and reverse.
Nice video! We start with a teepee, then when it is going good, transition to a log cabin style. We do this for exactly the reasons you stated: Teepee's start easiest, and log cabins require the least maintenance.
Brilliant test. I suppose you could use the teepee style if it is raining so that the wood protects the inside while it gets established, and you could also build it on a bed of wood to make sure. It would be interesting to know which fire made the rocks hottest lasting longest. Maybe it would help to have a few feather stich shavings on all the logs of the upside down fire , so they have their own kindling
Great and useful bushcraft insights! Very useful for anyone who spends any extent of time out in the bush; however, unfortunately not really practical right now with all of the forest fires and campfire bans.
I used log cabin fire the other day when cowboy camping. It kept the bugs away and when I build it right it lasts me quite a while before I need to maintain it.
Man DJ, you’re a bushcrafting scientist!! Do you think we can combine a log cabin fire on top of a reverse fire set up? Log cabin protects the tinder and reverse fire to reduce maintenance.
I always set my tinder bundle on top of a thin layer of firewood. Then l proceed as shown in the videos, usually building a combo teepee/log cabin type. I do this to prevent any moisture from the ground affecting the fire, especially during the beginning stages. Ground moisture can "steal" heat from the tinder/kindeling...giving off steam and hindering the fire start up . Sometimes l use a big piece of tree bark to build the fire on...use what you got.
For social firepits...roasting hotdogs, marshmallows et, I have always used the T-Pee....though with much larger starting wood. Clearly with smaller T-pee wood there is more maintenance. the cabin style to me is more useful for the late fire you want to retain coals. Many thanks !
Here is a fire making tip from an old man. A lot of people advocate digging a shallow fire pit.....I advocate building a fire mound, not a pit. Why, number one it provides better ventilation and more importantly, if it rains water does not flow into your fire and fire pit. I have left my campfires at night by burying a round under ash and coals and cover the throw down grill with my gridle. I have seen it rain all night and get up the next morning and still be able to bring it back to flame. Even if it goes out, at least my firelay is not flooded.
*Top Down Fire Hack* This works really well in a survival situation if most of the large fuel wood you have is completely wet/saturated. Start with largest soggy wood on the bottom layer, stacking each additional later with smaller wood. Once it catches over top with your dry starters the fire and embers dry out the layer beneathe and drop further embers down to the wettest biggest logs. Works like a charm!
Great video , I guess it depends on your purpose of the fire . If I'm just cooking , I usually dig a hole and 2 vent holes and build the fire in the ground . Not real good for heat though .
Thank you so much for your easy-to-follow instructions. Even a novice like me can feel more confident and comfortable with being in the outdoors thanks to you.
So while learning how to build fires, I inadvertently built the reverse fire. I had no clue what I was doing and I just figured once I get the tinder bundle lit, it will drop the coals downwards and light the wood fuel on fire eventually. Been doing it ever since.
I've gone with the cabin-base fire because it's easier for me to get a big fire going. Next week, Im working as night security for some campers. I have to stay awake at night to keep any animals away, and my fire is my friend. I like to dig down and make the pit wide so I can get some big flames going. But after seeing the reverse fire, that seems to resemble the fires I make. I lay some tinder down, then a row, then more tinder and another row.
Have you ever boxed in the utility fire lay with 4 logs of, say, 3”-4” diameter along the outside edges? Gives a longer lasting fire that is contained embers. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
you went a little cheap on the kindling with the teepee and that's why you had to add more later. usually by the time the kindling is almost burned the thick stuff is already burning. and the thick pieces are supposed to be more leaning on the kindling than on eachother so when the kindling starts falling down the bigger logs fall down and then wedge against eachother lower and closer to the ground and the already burning kindling. i usually use newspapers for tinder and i can get a good fire in up to 5 mins. i use a good amount of kindling that gets going fast and if there's some wind it's gonna be igniting like crazy.
Tinder and kindling between every stick at every level. It was a game changer for me. The lowest level made a lot of smoke though. I wonder if it's practical to light it without putting tinder at every level? This way required a ton of tinder.
@@TheBearEssentials Thanks, I have two theories for the xtreme amount of smoke produce by the lowest level: 1.: The lowest level acted as an air intake, as I left gaps for the tinder, that would let air through for the upper levels. The ground is not so breathable, so when the higer levels burned down, there was nothing to burn the smoke off from the lowest level suffocated by the ground. When the higher levels were burning, there was a strong upwards air movement in the fire, throwing big flames and sparks, so it definitely got a lot of air from below. 2.: The heat from the fire had molten the previously frozen ground, which increased the moisture content of the lowest level, making it burn worse. Which one is more likely?
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What's your take on a backlog-basically a lean-to with your largest log on one side and the tinder hidden under tinder making the "roof" of the structure?
A lot of people do not realize the efficiency of the top down fire, as the coals heat the wood underneath, it releases wood gas, which is the actual fuel. Less wasted fuel and forms much better coals!
Me and a friend were going to a festival and didnt wanna drive all the way back. After failing to find a cheap hotel that had vacancy, we went to a campground. But one issue. We didnt pack SHIT for camping. No tents, no fire starters, no food. Just our cars. We backed them up next to the fire pit, both SUVs and popped the trunks. Turns out we only had a tiny lighter for lighting our joints (we're stoners lol). We got resourceful and successfully and proudly got a fire going using only newspapers I found in my back seat. We did the teepee method and kept it going all night just chilling in our trunks roasting hot dogs we got at a convenience store nearby.
You asked what content that I would want to see in visual format. I would like to see more bushcrafters address issues with bugs, especially mosquitos. I have been trying to find other ways of dealing with them besides chemicals deterants. Do campfires keep the mosquitos away only when smoke is on you or does it make a no fly zone? Anyway, i think there should be more videos from bushcrafters on the subject.
Sure. I can do that. Campfires do. The smoke will cause them to keep away, but the smell of smoke on you isn’t enough - it’s the actual smoke in the air that does. But also any minty plants close by, thermocell’s or bug spray with Deet work well too.
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@xRzeropoint79 Sure thing! I will do an advanced fire vid like this!
This is maybe too broad a question, but could you cover some handy improvisations, or things you would rather make for yourself than buy and lug around with you? I'm thinking along the lines of using folded clothing instead of a camp pillow, but more technical and more practical.
@xRzeropoint79 I find that rolled-up clothes make a good enough pillow for me, it was more as an example of little things someone might not know a simple alternative for. Thanks for the information though :) That does sound like a cool piece of gear.
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I've been using the upside-down method exclusively for years, but I do mine very differently than yours. No gaps, no tinder built-in. I lay my largest pieces side by side, tightly together without gaps. The next layer is smaller pieces, tightly packed side by side, usually at a 70 degree angle rather than 90, to retain more coals on the layer below it (so they don't fall off to the sides and smolder). Repeat this process layer by layer with ever smaller pieces until you have all your wood stacked. On top, I build a tinder/kindling/twig structure of pure chaos, with just enough material to burn for about 5-6 minutes and enough pinky sized twigs to generate some starting coals. My method takes longer to get going, but it burns very slowly and for a long time, and tends to re-burn the rising smoke from the layer beneath what's currently flaming.
Advantages: It can be nearly smokefree when it gets rolling. You can use less dry material for your larger pieces, as they'll be drying for a long time from the layers above and the falling coals. Your wood lasts much longer as it burns layer by layer. You'll tend to burn 100% of your fuel with no left over chunks of char.
Disadvantages: If you need heat "right now", this is not the one you want (cooking, drying off). You'll be waiting 15 minutes for it to start producing significant heat. Your top 2 layers need to be decently dry material to generate hot coals to continue the burn to the larger layers. Takes some axe skills to prep the correctly sized pieces (XL, L, M, S, XS is what I usually start with for layers, with XL being forearm sized and XS being pinky sized).
Give this tactic a try sometime, I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised!
Sounds great! Will give it a go. Thanks for sharing 👍
Sounds good. Make a video of it.
This is similar to how I built this fire as well.
I typically don't fiddle much with the axe. Assuming I'm foraging firewood from the forest and not using prepared logs, I will typically try to find denser wood (e.g. hardwood if possible) for the bottom. Dead standing trees if possible. I'd use the base of those for the lower layers (as they are fatter) and then as I cut the rest of the tree moving on to the top layers. Top layers will typically be wrist size then fingers size branche. I could build that fire easily with just a folding saw.
I saw some people put a little of dirt between the logs within a layer, to keep coals even and ensure a most even burn, as well as help keep thing level as you go higher. I haven' tried it yet though.
ill give it a try in a few weeks. ill be dealing with alot of wet wood
Man I've said it before - you have the best outdoor/bushcrafting/skillset videos around. Not only the quality of your cinematography and editing skills, but unique applications and solid data. Can't remember seeing anyone use a moisture meter in a fire test comparison video before. The only thing in your way now is time for the algorithm to catch up, so just don't quit - gonna be some views, some views, some views, BAM!!! Even if it takes a year.
Thanks so much for saying this. It’s some good motivation and feedback to keep going. Made my day!
I agree with the stranger, the quality in this one is amazing!
The algorithm just brought me here 😁 Really liked this video!
And more and more views 🎉🎉🎉🎉
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log cabin fire is great for wet wood. if you can get a bit of pine resin place it on your tinder in the middle and it you can use the spaces between the logs of the “cabin” as grate bars for inserting your wet wood so that it both dries and ignites over the flame, and continue this until the top ignites
Excellent idea!!
You can also easily dry bigger logs by arranging them vertically around the pyramid structure so they will both protect the main fire from the wind and eventually add themselves to the fire's fuel source and catch fire. Just make sure you leave some gaps so you don't cut off too much air.
If you want a good tip for an easy and cheap fire starter, just save the lint that gets caught in your dryer at home. That stuff is super flammable and you'll always be getting more. I keep a plastic bag full of it for when we go camping as an easy fire starter.
Great idea! And if all else fails grab some from the ol’ belly button 🤣
@@TheBearEssentials 😂
But you can also get hair in it and different materials and some might burn better than others and it could just smother it
NorthOfTheBorder went over this before
Take the lint, put it in an egg carton, and cover the top with Vaseline for an incredible firestarter. A tip handed down to me by a random person at a camp-but it really works!
How about saving pencil sharpener shavings for fires?
The log cabin fire technique is definitely my favorite and what I use most of the time. I find it much easier to add wood to it later without making it collapse because the coals naturally form a pyramid that the new logs can lean on without crushing the structure, compared to the teepee one. I also just start with a split log base to make the fire on, and if it's windy I protect it with some vertical logs stacked around it also. I find it also makes the best camp fires. The reverse fire is definitely the best for getting good coals for cooking, but doesn't make as good of a campfire when you just want to enjoy a good flame and light the campsite at the same time.
I tend to completely avoid the teepee technique unless I want to smell like smoke and spend half the time rearranging the logs to prevent it from smothering itself.
I have seen other videos on this topic that were not nearly as detailed. Thank you for making this and being detailed with amount of wood, how much water is in that wood and thermal readings. Well done.
Thanks a bunch, k wanted to try and make it as scientific and unbiased as I could
That’s exactly my impression from watching only a couple of vids. Mr. Essentials is a natural educator.
Using the thermal gauge was the kind of scientific information I always wanted but have never found in an outdoors class or video before. Thank you!
It would be super helpful if you could make a video about what are the best kind of ropes to buy and use for different situations, because your videos are super well put together and clean.
Awesome, funny you say this, I’ve been working on that exact video for the past few weeks!
Will have something out in the near future :)
@TheBearEssentials Great, thanks! I can't wait :D
I’m really glad the algorithms guided me your way. Very well done and informative video. You really have all the tech gadgets to measure different fires 👏
I’m so glad you found the page.. and thanks for the kind words! I think it will take a while to build all the likeminded folks here, but welcome to the community :)
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I like to use two logs with about a 6 inches diameter, I set them up parallel to each other with the gap pointed toward the prevailing wind. I put my tinder bundle between the logs and lay twigs like your log cabin fire. As the tinder and twigs burn, I add more and larger twigs, log cabin style. Once I get a nice bed of coals, I add bigger pieces. By then, the two main logs are burning well and I fill the gap with medium sized pieces. As the main logs are consumed, I push them closer together and add more twigs. Long lasting and easy to cook on and maintain.
Nice exposition. I've long been a proponent of the upside-down/reverse fire-lay and I avail myself of this method except when I need a fire going in a hurry. In addition to the merits you described, I find that learning to use that fire-lay forces one to acquire some knife and axe skills for wood-processing, which are advantageous skills to have for any backcountry camper.
Cheers and all the best to you in this new year.
- Martin
Martin!! Thanks for writing. Couldn’t agree more with the skill and refinement side of it. With all your experience I truly value your insights!
Thx for watching man!
I’ve watched this video like 5 times now just for fun it’s really satisfying for some reason
THANK YOU! I've understood and used basic fire skills for years. The way you presented each, and especially the thermal imagining, was new for me, and my understanding is FAR more solid now!
I can't wait to try this out in my backyard.
Also, I've pretry much failed to help my kiddos understand fire building. (We're all a little impatient lol) I really think this'll help them both, and I plan to test that this weekend 😁🤞🤞
I'm going to enjoy your vids😊
WOW! Friggin' science, I LOVE how much detail and diligence went into this test, super impressive and helpful knowledge! Definitely going to binge watch more of your stuff, thank you!!!
First time seeing your videos, glad they’re on my recommendation. I’m at zero level as I’ve never been camping, didn’t go to Girl Scouts either. But I love nature and learning about how to go on in it. 👍
This is so, SO helpful. Thank you for your attention to detail on all of these.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences. I enjoy your shows a lot. Old times to recall and new things to learn.
Thank you, DJ!
True, we need to relearn these essentials.
Thinking if someone goes swimming and then needs to dry off, can't say which fire lay to choose from. The reverse fire may burn hotter but it takes longer to reach that point. May not be suitable also if weather conditions are harsh. Teepee and cabin seem more appropriate for the job.
Feel free to give your thoughts.
Keep up the great work and here's to 2023 vids! 👍
I think you’re absolutely right . The reverse would take too long to get going!
My father taught me to use the Log Cabin and the Reverse Fire fires since I was maybe nine or ten. It's how I've always done it, actually exactly like I did it tonight. I usually use corks wrapped in newspaper as my little firestarter, it slow burns very nicely and helps the kindling catch. Great video!
perfect video. You have a natural cheeky grin when you talk and it makes me laugh for no reason as I watch. I have learned so much from your channel it blows my mind.
What an outstanding tutorial: a meticulously scientific approach, allowing us to note with confidence the conclusions reached and put them to work in the field. Subbed straight away... keep 'em coming, comrade.
I just realized that they missed their chance to name their channel “the bear necessities” THE SIMPLE BEAR NECESSITIES FORGEZt ABOUT YOUR WORRIES AND YOUR STRESS sorry but this was a really good and helpful video
I was wondering about the tradeoffs between these campfire builds. Very informative video.
Thanks so much, I always wanted to do a legit experiment myself.
Thanks for making this video! The quality is on a whole nother level
Your rational, explanations, just bar none!! Ive tried, used all theee!!! Must say, you gave the science to why I have my preferences... thank you!!! Now I can better plan which type I use for the desired outcome!!!
Just found your channel! GREAT content! The science teacher in me loves your scientific approach to comparing the three different types, and the camper in me loves the "best use" classifications! I'm an "old Faithful/Log cabin" fan. I honestly haven't tried the other two, but I stick with what works for me. I'll try them next time I'm out.
Man I start a teepee fire to get it going, and once it's going well I knock my logs over, and rearrange them into a larger bed. Seems a lot easier, and faster than the reverse fire. Gets going hot quick, and once you have those coals you can arrange them how you want, and just start building from there. There's no obligation to keep the shape that you used to start the fire. Idk seems a bit unnecessary for me. I appreciate your content greatly though 😎✊🏼
Oh for sure!!! No obligation at all to keep one distinct fire type - this is all just information anyone can adapt to their own style :)
Love this
Only found your channel yesterday. I was in a house fire as a small child and the pyrophobia that I developed was, well, pretty inconveniencing and embarrassing. I dealt with it as an adult by learning all about the science of fire (mainly as it related to buildings) and mass panic behaviour in emergencies. But, as a professional gardener and woodland worker, I decided to be the best fire setter I could be.
It was also because I was really disgusted by colleagues who would throw diesel (kerosene?) fuel around to get a big brash fire going. My (usually intelligent) boss once demonstrated the effects of a high energy accelerant, by throwing petrol (gasoline) onto a lacklustre fire. He will not be doing that again. He wasn’t hurt, but the verbal burn I gave him was something I was something to behold, apparently.
I have a flint & steel, a baggie of sheep’s wool (I also make felt) and cotton wool balls. I always save bits and pieces of wood waste for tinder (elderly, knackered laundry baskets are great for this!). I have a Kelly Kettle so can start a fire in a monsoon if necessary (although I’m a Brit, so we don’t have them). Boiled water in minutes plus all the embers you need for a proper fire. And I taught myself to make charcoal.
I still won’t tolerate candles indoors. They killed my friend’s ex-partner and their child when one ignited the tv.
Hi. I’m Keith. I grew up on a ranch in Texas. I basically camped every day from 5 -18 years old😂! I still think it’s more accurate to call it back yard camping because we always had the option of making it back to the house when we got fed up with the weather, bugs, etc!
What a great video! Excellent presentation, thorough, straight to the point.
Been learning/ practicing bushcraft / wild camping in my backyard for almost a year now. I have tarp tent skills down, forging wood, batoning, fire starting, sleep system dialing in.. navigation is next on my list.
I have learned that if i I need quick heat to warm up and cook, TeePee is the go to. Then I’ll scrape the coals forward and build a top down for the next round. Relocate some of those coals to help start it, keep cooking on the rest.
I keep all sorts of backup starters in my pack: a few short lengths of fat wood; cotton balls in Vaseline; lots of thin twine rope; some duct tape; two bic lighters, matches, and even an old fashion zippo. If push comes to shove.. a touch of alcohol from my stove bottle does the job for an unsuccessful rainy day! 😂 Not very bushcrafty.. but hey, it’s not called survival for nothing 😉
After all that.. my goal is to always try foraging first.
Thanks for the vid. I just subscribed! Looking forward to checking out your content!
Wow thanks for sharing all this, great idea with the Teepee first then following it up!
No judgement on your bushcraft and survival prep, everyone has their own preferences and I love the knowledge share. That’s the best part!!
I really appreciate your analytical approach here. The IR camera gave us info that we had not had before. Thank you.
To be fair, one of the reasons that the inverse fire lasted longer is because it had about twice as much material to begin with. Then, the inverse layup extended its life.
It would have been interesting to have seen an example #4, and have it be a Dakota hole layup. Maybe another time?
A favorite quick-short lived fire of mine is built in a shallow depression. Using the back edge of a boot/shoe heel, spin around a time or three to dig out a bowl. Lay twigs in an inverse tepee. Shave off all bark and debris from the end 4”-5” of a couple twigs. Dip the clean ends into the gas tank of your motorcycle. (You DID bring one of those along, didn’t you?). Recap the tank! Lay those wet ends into the bottom point of the tepee and drop in a match. Add water to your camp pot and set it on the fire.
If you want to have a prolonged cooking fire, first lay 3 stones about the size of a golf ball into the sides of the bowl depression as a pot support. Arrange them to do their job. Then lay and light the fire.
VOILA!
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The inverse fire had the exact same material as the others, I stacked them evenly and weighed them all too! Each received the same amount of tinder as well. A pack pouch worth.
That dugout is a great idea, and yes I’ll likely compare some advanced and nuanced fire lays like the Dakota pit one day in the future too!!
You are Good! Clear , precise, no blabbing on. 👍
Someone else mentioned in the comment, and I fully agree, that this isn't necessarily the best way to build an upside down. But there are great pros to it as mentioned in the video. The other thing I'd mention about it is that of all those presented here, it's probably the one that scales the best. You could use 6' long full logs to make the base and stack multiple layers (5....6....7...8....) or you could start smaller and keep it to 3-4 layers. The tipi doesn't scall so well, and the log cabin is a little bit in between. The issue with scaling those 2 is making a stable structure with larger stuff, and then having to re-arrange bigger pieces as they collapse.
The analysis is very good for showing data for every fire set. Good work 👏👏👍
Wow, I just happened onto this video. I recently moved from TX to CO. Some RVing and real camping in TX, but it’s the real thing here. Thanks for this primer on fires, my my first on camping know how.
How much wood is needed to get a fire that lasts a few hours? We have to pre-pack our wood and I don’t know what to take
My favorite fire lay is a combo between your examples of log cabin and reverse. what I do is build 3 layers of a log cabin then 1 layer like the reverse, thin I build 3 more layers of hollow log cabin then fill in the top, like the reverse then light it from the top and middle. It truly is a hybrid of the log cabin and reverse.
Should do a smoke factor kinda thing. Like what type of fire produces the most/least amount of smoke
This is a great idea! I’d have to find some way to quantify or measure it is all.
Nice video! We start with a teepee, then when it is going good, transition to a log cabin style. We do this for exactly the reasons you stated: Teepee's start easiest, and log cabins require the least maintenance.
I enjoyed this gentleman's presentation. I am going to subscribe, there's a lot I can learn.
Brilliant test.
I suppose you could use the teepee style if it is raining so that the wood protects the inside while it gets established, and you could also build it on a bed of wood to make sure.
It would be interesting to know which fire made the rocks hottest lasting longest.
Maybe it would help to have a few feather stich shavings on all the logs of the upside down fire , so they have their own kindling
That’s genius!!
Great tutorial, thanks.
Great and useful bushcraft insights! Very useful for anyone who spends any extent of time out in the bush; however, unfortunately not really practical right now with all of the forest fires and campfire bans.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I am a visual learner so this works perfectly for me.
Thx Thomas, I am too, I’m glad there’s a few of us!
Such a great video, once again. No wonder my fires go out!! So helpful. Thank you and blessings
Thanks so much!! Glad it provided some insight
I was taught to build a little log cabin on the top of my reverse fire. Helps get it going good before the tinder burns out.
celsius best temperature ♥
I secretly agree too 😬
I used log cabin fire the other day when cowboy camping. It kept the bugs away and when I build it right it lasts me quite a while before I need to maintain it.
Man, I learned a lot from this video.
Oh awesome, thank you!!
Man DJ, you’re a bushcrafting scientist!! Do you think we can combine a log cabin fire on top of a reverse fire set up? Log cabin protects the tinder and reverse fire to reduce maintenance.
Hahaha I can’t possibly claim that title.. but I definitely do a lot of experiments! (Only the fun ones) 🤣
I always set my tinder bundle on top of a thin layer of firewood. Then l proceed as shown in the videos, usually building a combo teepee/log cabin type.
I do this to prevent any moisture from the ground affecting the fire, especially during the beginning stages. Ground moisture can "steal" heat from the tinder/kindeling...giving off steam and hindering the fire start up .
Sometimes l use a big piece of tree bark to build the fire on...use what you got.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to make this
For social firepits...roasting hotdogs, marshmallows et, I have always used the T-Pee....though with much larger starting wood. Clearly with smaller T-pee wood there is more maintenance. the cabin style to me is more useful for the late fire you want to retain coals. Many thanks !
Damn it, yt algorithm. I don't regret clicking this, wow this is genius.
Here is a fire making tip from an old man. A lot of people advocate digging a shallow fire pit.....I advocate building a fire mound, not a pit. Why, number one it provides better ventilation and more importantly, if it rains water does not flow into your fire and fire pit. I have left my campfires at night by burying a round under ash and coals and cover the throw down grill with my gridle. I have seen it rain all night and get up the next morning and still be able to bring it back to flame. Even if it goes out, at least my firelay is not flooded.
Sir, they did not even bother to reply to your comment. I shall surely implement this technique next time. Thank you.
@@Crazytesseract Thank you sir.
Super enjoyed this video! Thank you
Wow such a scientific experiment. Very helpful, thanks!
This was truly an amazing and informative video. Thanks for your super useful content!
Really interesting and informative. Will definitely give the reverse form a go.
Awesome thanks for watching David. It's worth a try and I love using it especially when solo and theres a lot of work at camp to be done.
Agreed 💯
*Top Down Fire Hack* This works really well in a survival situation if most of the large fuel wood you have is completely wet/saturated.
Start with largest soggy wood on the bottom layer, stacking each additional later with smaller wood. Once it catches over top with your dry starters the fire and embers dry out the layer beneathe and drop further embers down to the wettest biggest logs. Works like a charm!
Really interesting and awesome video!!! Thanks!!!😉 Salute from Spain!!
😊 Thanks 👍🏻 And I love the 10 knots video 😁
Amazing, thanks for watching both Susan! If you have any more ideas you'd like to see, I'm planning my 2023 Vid schedule now :)
Thanks DJ, great video ! ❤
You’re welcome, thanks so much for watching!!
Thanks!
Thanks John!
Great video , I guess it depends on your purpose of the fire . If I'm just cooking , I usually dig a hole and 2 vent holes and build the fire in the ground . Not real good for heat though .
Great use of modern tech 👍🏼
Thank you so much for your easy-to-follow instructions. Even a novice like me can feel more confident and comfortable with being in the outdoors thanks to you.
This is exactly what I was aiming for, I’m so so happy it helped!
So while learning how to build fires, I inadvertently built the reverse fire. I had no clue what I was doing and I just figured once I get the tinder bundle lit, it will drop the coals downwards and light the wood fuel on fire eventually. Been doing it ever since.
I'd love more info on the self feeding fire. Great vid, my favorite is the reverse fire as well.
Great video! First time I see your stuff
I personally liked rever fire pretty much , because of its construction, pretty cute ..
Ya ! Me too
Wow, great, informative video man 😎
Keep it up
Thanks Marko!
What a fantastic subject. ❤
I've gone with the cabin-base fire because it's easier for me to get a big fire going. Next week, Im working as night security for some campers. I have to stay awake at night to keep any animals away, and my fire is my friend. I like to dig down and make the pit wide so I can get some big flames going. But after seeing the reverse fire, that seems to resemble the fires I make. I lay some tinder down, then a row, then more tinder and another row.
New to the channel … lovin it do far. Keep up the great work!
Hey thanks so much, the channel itself is pretty new, I’ll keep making more like this. Thx for commenting!
I wanted to ask you what your jacket was it is so nice ! Incredible video by the way thank you so much !!
Hey! The Jacket is made by Fjallraven, if you want, heres my affiliate link to the jacket on campsaver: bit.ly/421nhX3
Wooow, brilliant! 🔥🔥🔥
Great video DJ. Love the almost forensic attention to detail mate. Interesting, informative and above all really useful 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thanks Glen!! I always enjoy reading your comments, much appreciated and thanks for watching
Have you ever boxed in the utility fire lay with 4 logs of, say, 3”-4” diameter along the outside edges? Gives a longer lasting fire that is contained embers.
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N00b here. Could you build a mixed fire to get best of two worlds? Like an upside down being the base of a teepee ?? So collapse would light phase 2
Yes!! You absolutely can! Great question! Only thing is the fire gets quite high up so make sure it’s in a deeper pit or there isn’t too strong wind.
Love this video already 👍 I’m gon do that
Great video! Thanks 👍
you went a little cheap on the kindling with the teepee and that's why you had to add more later. usually by the time the kindling is almost burned the thick stuff is already burning. and the thick pieces are supposed to be more leaning on the kindling than on eachother so when the kindling starts falling down the bigger logs fall down and then wedge against eachother lower and closer to the ground and the already burning kindling. i usually use newspapers for tinder and i can get a good fire in up to 5 mins. i use a good amount of kindling that gets going fast and if there's some wind it's gonna be igniting like crazy.
Thanks for incredible content
Tinder and kindling between every stick at every level. It was a game changer for me. The lowest level made a lot of smoke though. I wonder if it's practical to light it without putting tinder at every level? This way required a ton of tinder.
You can but It’s really a fine balance to get it to light with less kindling.
@@TheBearEssentials Thanks, I have two theories for the xtreme amount of smoke produce by the lowest level:
1.: The lowest level acted as an air intake, as I left gaps for the tinder, that would let air through for the upper levels. The ground is not so breathable, so when the higer levels burned down, there was nothing to burn the smoke off from the lowest level suffocated by the ground. When the higher levels were burning, there was a strong upwards air movement in the fire, throwing big flames and sparks, so it definitely got a lot of air from below.
2.: The heat from the fire had molten the previously frozen ground, which increased the moisture content of the lowest level, making it burn worse.
Which one is more likely?
Great Video and Channel! Any chance on maybe doing a product review of our Firestarter?
Great video!❤
Tee pee log cabin mix all dayyyy!!!!
Should of shown the beginning of clearing out an area and stacking the rock wall
love your vids, looking forward to seeing more! i also really like the brown jacket you are wearing.. can someone please tell me the brand name?
Thanks so much! It’s an Anorak by Fjallraven, here’s a couple links for which I get a small commission if you’d want to help support the channel :)
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As a scientist I love your video
Great video!!!
What's your take on a backlog-basically a lean-to with your largest log on one side and the tinder hidden under tinder making the "roof" of the structure?
Awesome information
Thx a bunch!
thank u for your videos, i love it.
Make sure your rocks are dry wet or damp ones can explode if they get to hot too quick.
A lot of people do not realize the efficiency of the top down fire, as the coals heat the wood underneath, it releases wood gas, which is the actual fuel. Less wasted fuel and forms much better coals!
Me and a friend were going to a festival and didnt wanna drive all the way back. After failing to find a cheap hotel that had vacancy, we went to a campground. But one issue. We didnt pack SHIT for camping. No tents, no fire starters, no food. Just our cars. We backed them up next to the fire pit, both SUVs and popped the trunks. Turns out we only had a tiny lighter for lighting our joints (we're stoners lol). We got resourceful and successfully and proudly got a fire going using only newspapers I found in my back seat. We did the teepee method and kept it going all night just chilling in our trunks roasting hot dogs we got at a convenience store nearby.
You asked what content that I would want to see in visual format. I would like to see more bushcrafters address issues with bugs, especially mosquitos. I have been trying to find other ways of dealing with them besides chemicals deterants. Do campfires keep the mosquitos away only when smoke is on you or does it make a no fly zone? Anyway, i think there should be more videos from bushcrafters on the subject.
Sure. I can do that.
Campfires do. The smoke will cause them to keep away, but the smell of smoke on you isn’t enough - it’s the actual smoke in the air that does. But also any minty plants close by, thermocell’s or bug spray with Deet work well too.
@@TheBearEssentials Thanks! You are doing really well with your channel by the way.