Its looking good Rob. Although I am from Great Britain and I am a British outline modeler, I find your video's not only very informative but entertaining as well. Keep up the good work.
WOW that turned out awesome Rob your attention to the details never ceases to amaze me...remember Rob nothing in life or nature is ever perfect, it just adds to the realism (looked like you needed the little space to adjust for track alignment anyway)...the railing looks like it belongs there, maybe a few more sections would look good around the other sides...that pit is a really nice looking piece...ty for keeping us up to date Tom
Thank you for sharing. the railing is a good touch. Very well done. I hope you do a video series of building the buildings. Love watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Vincent. I was planning to do videos of the kit builds. Takes extra time but I haven't found too many other videos of Laser Modeling 3 or South River kits out there in YT land.
I have been wanting to build a laser kit for my layout. But I have to admit I am a bit intimidated. I was hoping watching you do this one, it may get my courage up. I did get a bus station that has been waiting for me to build it for two years. I love what you're doing so far. Placement, reasons, Thanks I will keep an eye out.
That I-beam above the steps is deadly. I can see me knocking myself in the head every time I go down those steps... That's why they make hard hats, though, right?
A nicely detailed addition to the end of the siding. When you come to fully scenic it can I suggest a couple of buckets for the "borrowing" of dropped coal for the employees! ;-)
Hey Steve, I’ve been keeping track of your last few videos covering the fiddle yard or staging as you lot over the pond call it. Great to see you back to some modelling though and that coal pit is a lovely little addition to the layout. Keep up the great work. Paul
Thanks Paul- and I really do want to get back to kit building and scenery, once all this track work and other required but burdensome tasks are complete!
Thank you Anthony. It is always fun to figure out what details to add...often we overlook these simple things because they are just "there" and they get lost in the background.
An easier way to mount things under the table and level would be to cut a piece of wood slightly larger than the area of the item will holes at the corners of the wood support down through the tabletop so that they are located in the same location. Take for wood screws with flat tops such as drywall screws, move your support out of the way and enlarge the holes in the tabletop so they clear the screws. Countersink for the screw heads. Placing the support under the table start the screws in the pilot holes. Then you can adjust the level by tightening and loosening the screws which will raise and lower the support. I find 3 hole support easier to level but of course the 4 holes support is stronger and more stable.
Rob. Great work as always. Over here in N E England we call them coal drops. The North Eastern Railway and subsequently the London & North Eastern Railway used hoppers for coal. Mind you, we 're talking 20 or 21 ton hoppers in the steam age. Done anything with the Diner lately? LOL. When you make changes you sure go the whole nine yards LOL. Cheers
Like the little detail of the rail joint bars, adds to the great little detail scene. It depends upon the era which the prototype pit was put in that would depend upon whether it was supplied by a 2-bay or 3-bay. I personally think it would support a mini-scene itself in a small branch of an Appalachian coal RR/ or just an old branch of something. JMO.
Looks great!! Perhaps you should place a wall along the railing to keep ballast out of the pit. Ballast in your coal deliveries wouldn't be appreciated by your customers stoker furnaces at home. Bill
Nice Coal pit you put in Rob! Now you need small details like a Couple of shovels and maybe a wooden ladder laying around. I have a Bubba Figure painted up to add in there if you need him. :)
Rob Been relooking at this clip... Seems to me that the coal pit would not have a stair case down...certainly not so close to the steel girder under the tracks. I would think that a wall mounted ladder would have been more logical...but hey...its just an opinion!
Two things. First I like your work and you have been giving me Great ideas too. With the pit I think I would have use a 3 bay hopper when placing the track and bumper. And remember joint bars are staggered not many are placed across from each other. I think stick rail is around 30' long. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work. Take care. Andy.
No worries, on your layout you can do exactly as you please. Jointed rail is usually 39 ft long, I believe sized to fit on the 40 ft flatcars that were prevalent "in the old days".
Great modeling. If your using India ink wash with alcohol. Pre wet the area first with alcohol. That will prevent it from soaking in and messing your work up.
LOL! State of Pennsylvania building code requires 6'-8" clear from any stair tread to an overhead obstruction. Clearly Laser Modeling, or people in this era, did not care about code :). You might paint a bit of blood on that first track support beam because it is so close to the that stair that you know someone busted their forehead on it. I bet they would have replaced the stairs with just a ladder after enough people got knocked out cold. Joking aside...it looks amazing as usual! Always look forward to your posts. Thanks Rob
Very true- when I saw that I thought the same thing. Really, people are supposed to use THOSE stairs to get into the pit?? I did think of replacing it with a ladder, but got lazy and just went with the kit components.
Looking good! I miss doing model railroading. Just don't have the space in our small apartment. Maybe one day, I can get back into it. Keep up the amazing work! Can't wait to see more! P.S. - I hope you've been able to utilize those decals and road stripping I sent you!
Ha ha! "Bubba, you moron!" We have ALL worked with someone like that along the way. Nice looking coal pit there Rob! I agree, there would be coal and dust spilled everywhere in the vicinity. Cheers, Dan
This looks fantastic.. just curious... when the coal machine is operating where does it move the coal to? shouldn't there be an auger or something coming above ground from the pit? also, it needs some tools that were left behind after the last clean up that Bubba did before he scurried off chasing wabbits..... lol... I love your videos and the hard work you put into making this for us to see and enjoy. Your layout looks fantastic.
that looks like a very informative booklet, where would someone get that ? can see a lot of the detail inside the pit. wow nice job. looks good in place. not to much to brace it. next part. The conveyor to bring it up?
Perhaps...I'm no expert on coal pit engineering, but some light would likely be there. Maybe on a pole outside the pit? I need to see one in real life...
at 13:48 when u said "isnt this fun" I couldnt agree with u more....it is absolutely fun as hell to do stuff like that...i have a layout myself and I know just how much fun it is to do stuff like this, check out my vids on my channel and tell me what u think....and im adding a new one very soon so look for that as well...that coal pit is awesome looking and I might add one on my layout myself...I have a small scrap yard on my layout and I loved every minute of the build time I put into it...keep building my friend ur layout is awesome
Love your layout! Watched all your videos, great production, quality and tons of great advice. Sorry to ask this question on this video, but for your control wiring, do you use 24 awg telephone wire, or CAT5E or just standard multiconductor cable. I love the idea of using bulk cabling like you do from your switches back to the main board, just wanted to know exactly what you used. I've watched your controls videos numerous times but couldn't find where you said what you used.
For the wiring, I used mostly 24 ga multi conductor cable, but I forget where I got it! I recently used some 22 ga multi cond cable for the staging control runs over to the main layout.
Ken- it is from Noch, Item #58642 Landliche Prellbocke. However, it seems hard to find. I did a Google and only European results came up. I can't even find it on the Noch webpage, so maybe it is discontinued. Perhaps some of our UK/European friends know more about it. I got it years ago, likely from one of the European Internet sites here in North America.
I like your videos and appreciate your perspectives on the work you do. I have a question about the Fast Tracks turnouts. When I make mine, they tend to arch upward slightly. Do you experience the same phenomenon? If you do, what, if anything do you do to prevent it from occurring? Thanks, Kennedy
Hm, what specifically do you mean by arching up? The entire turnout? This did happen to me occasionally- but it wasn't severe. Once I got the turnout installed and connected to the adjacent track it all laid down nicely.
It is not severe. Each end might rise the height of a rail at most with the center being the rocking point. Sometimes it was just one end, usually the opposite end of the frog. I have not glued these to the quick sticks yet. I will glue them and weight the entire turnout down while the Pliobond dries. I enjoy you videos. I am amazed at how much you get done. Sincerely, Kennedy
It sure does, but I assume Laser Three did reference the prototype. It is an actual building. I suppose they just sent a 4 year old into the pit when needed!
FM...honestly I don't know, my experience with coal pits is rather limited (ok, it is ZERO!) I do see your point. Hm, maybe I can add something to this...
Its looking good Rob. Although I am from Great Britain and I am a British outline modeler, I find your video's not only very informative but entertaining as well. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Stephen, I appreciate that. I will keep plugging away at this!
WOW that turned out awesome Rob your attention to the details never ceases to amaze me...remember Rob nothing in life or nature is ever perfect, it just adds to the realism (looked like you needed the little space to adjust for track alignment anyway)...the railing looks like it belongs there, maybe a few more sections would look good around the other sides...that pit is a really nice looking piece...ty for keeping us up to date Tom
You are welcome Tom. It was a fun little project, and I can say that I actually DID start that Laser Modeling 3 kit!
nice additions...accessorizing the coal chute and adding the railing.
Thanks- was a fun little build.
Thank you for sharing. the railing is a good touch. Very well done. I hope you do a video series of building the buildings. Love watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Vincent. I was planning to do videos of the kit builds. Takes extra time but I haven't found too many other videos of Laser Modeling 3 or South River kits out there in YT land.
I have been wanting to build a laser kit for my layout. But I have to admit I am a bit intimidated. I was hoping watching you do this one, it may get my courage up. I did get a bus station that has been waiting for me to build it for two years. I love what you're doing so far. Placement, reasons, Thanks I will keep an eye out.
Lovely little detail that will add interest to your layout. Nicely done.
Thanks George!
Really nice detail to your layout, love watching your UA-cam videos. Look forward to the next instalment.
Dave- thank you. I will keep plugging away and posting as long as I am able.
That I-beam above the steps is deadly. I can see me knocking myself in the head every time I go down those steps... That's why they make hard hats, though, right?
Love these video's of your's , thanks for sharing.
A nicely detailed addition to the end of the siding. When you come to fully scenic it can I suggest a couple of buckets for the "borrowing" of dropped coal for the employees! ;-)
LOL, great idea! Thanks....
Hey Steve, I’ve been keeping track of your last few videos covering the fiddle yard or staging as you lot over the pond call it. Great to see you back to some modelling though and that coal pit is a lovely little addition to the layout. Keep up the great work. Paul
Thanks Paul- and I really do want to get back to kit building and scenery, once all this track work and other required but burdensome tasks are complete!
Very nice, the detail you add makes all the difference...Anthony
Thank you Anthony. It is always fun to figure out what details to add...often we overlook these simple things because they are just "there" and they get lost in the background.
A job very well done I enjoyed watching your video, And all the hard work that went into making this coal pit Rob.. 👍👍
Thanks Henry. Was a fun little diversion from the other stuff I have going on right now.
Looks good. Nice work.
An easier way to mount things under the table and level would be to cut a piece of wood slightly larger than the area of the item will holes at the corners of the wood support down through the tabletop so that they are located in the same location. Take for wood screws with flat tops such as drywall screws, move your support out of the way and enlarge the holes in the tabletop so they clear the screws. Countersink for the screw heads. Placing the support under the table start the screws in the pilot holes. Then you can adjust the level by tightening and loosening the screws which will raise and lower the support. I find 3 hole support easier to level but of course the 4 holes support is stronger and more stable.
Thanks
Rob. Great work as always. Over here in N E England we call them coal drops. The North Eastern Railway and subsequently the London & North Eastern Railway used hoppers for coal. Mind you, we 're talking 20 or 21 ton hoppers in the steam age. Done anything with the Diner lately? LOL. When you make changes you sure go the whole nine yards LOL. Cheers
Alan Hudson hello fellow lad. Also coal staves
THANK FOR YOUR DETAIL VIDEO ON PUT IN COAL PIT ON YOUR DETAIL LAYOUT
You are welcome Robert!
Looks Great Rob!!
Thank you!
Another fine addition 👍
Like the little detail of the rail joint bars, adds to the great little detail scene. It depends upon the era which the prototype pit was put in that would depend upon whether it was supplied by a 2-bay or 3-bay. I personally think it would support a mini-scene itself in a small branch of an Appalachian coal RR/ or just an old branch of something. JMO.
Great video thank you for sharing I am looking to have a pit just like yours on my layout to good job good video thank you
Looks great!! Perhaps you should place a wall along the railing to keep ballast out of the pit.
Ballast in your coal deliveries wouldn't be appreciated by your customers stoker furnaces at home.
Bill
True, and I bet some would get in there. More ideas...
Nice scene...
Thanks Jeff, was a fun one to get done.
Nice Coal pit you put in Rob! Now you need small details like a Couple of shovels and maybe a wooden ladder laying around. I have a Bubba Figure painted up to add in there if you need him. :)
BUBBA! I may need to take you up on that one. Every scene needs a good Bubba!
Really nice job 👍🏻🇬🇧
Looks good . Nice job..
Until next time. Cheers
Thanks Jim.
Rob
Been relooking at this clip...
Seems to me that the coal pit would not have a stair case down...certainly not so close to the steel girder under the tracks.
I would think that a wall mounted ladder would have been more logical...but hey...its just an opinion!
Two things. First I like your work and you have been giving me Great ideas too. With the pit I think I would have use a 3 bay hopper when placing the track and bumper. And remember joint bars are staggered not many are placed across from each other. I think stick rail is around 30' long. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work. Take care. Andy.
No worries, on your layout you can do exactly as you please. Jointed rail is usually 39 ft long, I believe sized to fit on the 40 ft flatcars that were prevalent "in the old days".
Excellent! Love your creativity.
Well done!
Thank you!
Great video as always
Very interesting.... love the details!
Thanks Gary!
Great modeling.
If your using India ink wash with alcohol. Pre wet the area first with alcohol. That will prevent it from soaking in and messing your work up.
Ok, thanks- will note that for future use.
LOL! State of Pennsylvania building code requires 6'-8" clear from any stair tread to an overhead obstruction. Clearly Laser Modeling, or people in this era, did not care about code :). You might paint a bit of blood on that first track support beam because it is so close to the that stair that you know someone busted their forehead on it. I bet they would have replaced the stairs with just a ladder after enough people got knocked out cold.
Joking aside...it looks amazing as usual! Always look forward to your posts. Thanks Rob
Very true- when I saw that I thought the same thing. Really, people are supposed to use THOSE stairs to get into the pit?? I did think of replacing it with a ladder, but got lazy and just went with the kit components.
@@robbennett1965 Perhaps it's to be used only by Tolkien type dwarves?
Looking good! I miss doing model railroading. Just don't have the space in our small apartment. Maybe one day, I can get back into it. Keep up the amazing work! Can't wait to see more!
P.S. - I hope you've been able to utilize those decals and road stripping I sent you!
Looks good. I think you should put some type of a light down in their. That would make it really pop!
Thank you! I have the stuff you sent me earmarked for the roads into the factory...
Ha ha! "Bubba, you moron!" We have ALL worked with someone like that along the way. Nice looking coal pit there Rob! I agree, there would be coal and dust spilled everywhere in the vicinity. Cheers, Dan
Thanks Dan, and I meant no offense to any Bubbas out there....
Ha ha! None taken here. I'm sure you're just fine.
Looks Great
Thank you.
that is so cool
This looks fantastic.. just curious... when the coal machine is operating where does it move the coal to? shouldn't there be an auger or something coming above ground from the pit? also, it needs some tools that were left behind after the last clean up that Bubba did before he scurried off chasing wabbits..... lol... I love your videos and the hard work you put into making this for us to see and enjoy. Your layout looks fantastic.
coal is often unloaded at team tracks so its possible to have some here and there on the tracks
Indeed- plus it would likely spread a bit farther than one might expect, at least things like that seem to!
that looks like a very informative booklet, where would someone get that ? can see a lot of the detail inside the pit. wow nice job. looks good in place. not to much to brace it. next part. The conveyor to bring it up?
Thanks Sparky. For the booklet, if you are referring to the kit instructions they came with the kit.
Great video, what company makes them rail joiners, they look awesome thanks for sharing....
The joiners are from Detail Associates. They make a few kinds. These were the plastic ones.
if you plan on lighting the building that goes with the pit maybe you could add a small led in the pit some where.
Perhaps...I'm no expert on coal pit engineering, but some light would likely be there. Maybe on a pole outside the pit? I need to see one in real life...
at 13:48 when u said "isnt this fun" I couldnt agree with u more....it is absolutely fun as hell to do stuff like that...i have a layout myself and I know just how much fun it is to do stuff like this, check out my vids on my channel and tell me what u think....and im adding a new one very soon so look for that as well...that coal pit is awesome looking and I might add one on my layout myself...I have a small scrap yard on my layout and I loved every minute of the build time I put into it...keep building my friend ur layout is awesome
Thanks- I will check out your page. Always interested in seeing what others are into!
Love your layout! Watched all your videos, great production, quality and tons of great advice. Sorry to ask this question on this video, but for your control wiring, do you use 24 awg telephone wire, or CAT5E or just standard multiconductor cable. I love the idea of using bulk cabling like you do from your switches back to the main board, just wanted to know exactly what you used. I've watched your controls videos numerous times but couldn't find where you said what you used.
For the wiring, I used mostly 24 ga multi conductor cable, but I forget where I got it! I recently used some 22 ga multi cond cable for the staging control runs over to the main layout.
Looks fantastic. Where did you get that buffer stop? I'd like to get a couple for our club layout.
Ken- it is from Noch, Item #58642 Landliche Prellbocke. However, it seems hard to find. I did a Google and only European results came up. I can't even find it on the Noch webpage, so maybe it is discontinued. Perhaps some of our UK/European friends know more about it. I got it years ago, likely from one of the European Internet sites here in North America.
Ah HA! There is one listed on Ebay - search for Noch 58642. Seller is in Michigan.
I like your videos and appreciate your perspectives on the work you do. I have a question about the Fast Tracks turnouts. When I make mine, they tend to arch upward slightly. Do you experience the same phenomenon? If you do, what, if anything do you do to prevent it from occurring? Thanks, Kennedy
Hm, what specifically do you mean by arching up? The entire turnout? This did happen to me occasionally- but it wasn't severe. Once I got the turnout installed and connected to the adjacent track it all laid down nicely.
It is not severe. Each end might rise the height of a rail at most with the center being the rocking point. Sometimes it was just one end, usually the opposite end of the frog. I have not glued these to the quick sticks yet. I will glue them and weight the entire turnout down while the Pliobond dries. I enjoy you videos. I am amazed at how much you get done. Sincerely, Kennedy
Fantastic layout work. Personally I don't think the staircase into the pit looks right, It looks too cramped. How about a ladder instead
It sure does, but I assume Laser Three did reference the prototype. It is an actual building. I suppose they just sent a 4 year old into the pit when needed!
how do they unload the car with no cat walk...
FM...honestly I don't know, my experience with coal pits is rather limited (ok, it is ZERO!) I do see your point. Hm, maybe I can add something to this...
copd is going to take you out
What? Not a square hole cutter, for heavens sake, get with the program!! You'll never be able to complete this monster that you have created!!
LOL, I know I'm such a LOSER! And you are right this IS a monster. Well, back to work...slowly eating the elephant that is this layout.
Jesus i can't listen to that heavy breathing. Stop smoking or what you do i had to mute it and read subtitles ^^
Luke, I am your father.