the thing about using charging charm on deci is if you use shadow sneak while charging charm charged up, the shadow sneak damage will consume it before you even use spirit shackle
This doesn’t matter because the damage added by Charging Charm just scales off the user’s attack stat, not the move being used, so no matter whether the damage is added to Sneak or to Shackle, the damage should be about the same.
Better than float stone. As long as charging charm isn’t at 100, it won’t proc and you can see the charge number. Unlike float stone wherein there is a hidden timer until it goes up.
I'm very happy you tried this build, I thought of putting this item on Spirit Shackle Decidueye immediately after the item was released and I always had 100k damage or more after equipping it (still lost most of those because teammates...)
Can you help me understand the best play to make in the situation at 8:42, if it's not ripping Ray? I'm just going to dump out all of my thoughts, and if anyone sees something I didn't, please let me know. Your team has a better chance to secure Ray in a 5v3, so you have an advantage when ripping Ray (and their Blaziken with Overheat secure is at your base), and if you don't do something, then the enemy team continues to back cap and you guys sit guarding Ray for nothing. Eventually you might just decide to send your entire team toward one goal to push the opponents back and score, but you'll be pushing the enemy's T2 and potentially their base as well, which they will have the advantage on, without Ray shields. If you decide eventually to rip Ray after waiting because the match is getting close to ending and you need to make a move, then the back cappers may have rejoined the fight by then and the opponents might have an equal chance at securing in a 5v5 instead of a 3v5. However, if you guys rip Ray at the time that you did, it's possible that someone on the enemy team manages to steal it (it's not TOO unlikely in a 3v5), and then you're done. With the two back cappers, though, I can't really see a reason not to go for the Ray rip when your team did, as forcing the other 3 members of their team to come in and find themselves in a losing team fight might be enough to make sure you get it.
Hey Chris! There are new hints in the current Christmas loading screen. 1) The board on top of the Christmas tree shows Pokemon in two fighting stance. They look like throh and sawk. 2) to the right of that there's a silhouette of smeargle.
Love the item on Fly Bird. It finishes charging while you are soaring then BOOM. Add float stone and speed emblems and you can almost outrun an xspeed.
Random but seeing you as Owl against two of the shortest range attackers makes me excited for Draft mode and the videos you'll make about what mons to pick vs what. I wonder if Inteleon will be a mandatory pick vs Owl.
love the item on deci, but playing deci in soloq is nothing but pain. one game i was playing out of body but the enemy m2y would solo unite me, teleport to me, and play melee lmao it should be a crime to get away with that but deci struggles to self peel
But float stone give you flat movement speed increase! That combined with movement speed from charging charm would help you out run people if they had no x speed or eject up.
I used this build a few days ago and it was very fun tbh with muscle band, crit thing, and the new energy thing this was in ranked too and I got 120k damage with it it’s a fun build
as far as no. goes charging charm gives around 10% dmg increase on a charged spirit shackle and this % only rises as you level up but it is a very negligible increase. also stacks or no stacks it is 10% increase. also it was tested for lvl9,13,15 basically late game. for early game i'm not sure about the % but i think it hardly changes. (this 10% dmg increase is only for spirit shackle this % varies from "moves to moves" and "pokemon to pokemon". it is NOT a 10% dmg increase for all for eg dodrio"s boosted auto attacks get a 25-26% damage boost(tested on level 9,13,15) when charge is full)
I know I'm not Cris but I play with sub and close combat I use weight, razor, and float stone or weakness policy, if you're not using sub I'd go policy
It'd be cool if charging charm boosted your next move rather than basic attacks and moves, making basic attacks slightly stronger doesn't seem to do much.
I'm a deci main as well. I agree. The battle item is team dependent, but x speed is a favorite of mine. Curse is my replacement for attack weight if I am forced to jungle. I'm actually very happy to see you didn't include muscle band. It's such a bad item on spirit deci. He keeps saying deci didn't have a third item, and it was making me uncomfortable. He was missing an item, but float wasn't just a place holder it's mandatory with spirit.
@@closeenough1343 I would argue that attack weight isn't needed at all since scoring with the owl is a huge risk since he has no escape options, but it's still good for the base damage. I value the curse bangle all the way since reducing healing on the enemy team is huge and is mandatory for every team to take. When draft kicks in and we can actually see the team then the curse item can be a flex since the heal reduction isn't drastically needed for every pokemon. I just take it in case I do face healing threats because I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. And I always say the auto attacking items are a throw since you never want to be in auto range to begin with, which is why razor leaf is and will always be a throw.
@maestrotritone5975 I agree. I look at the curse item as exp share. It's that important to have. At least 1 person on the team needs it, or two is best. So many people don't understand why these youtubers keep styling on them, penta after penta. It's because nobody has a curse item. It's mandatory in rank.
@@aaliyan22 as a deci main, completely agree. You want repositioning and burst damage, and that build provides it. You're too squishy to overextend and stack consistently
some ppl in your chat don't seem to understand that shadow sneak activating the charm is a good thing actually... Regardless of whether it activates from shadown sneak or spirit shackle, it will do the same damage and since shadow sneak is better to find a target and deal one instance of damage than basically everything in the game except mewtwo unite move, it's actually one of the best moves to use with charm
I don’t feel like Charging Charm is that good with Spirit Shackle. With Razor Lead tho, you activate it a ton and it adds so much damage to basic attacks that you’re constantly using, I feel like it’s really good with that move instead
Oh boy this season is gonna be so cringe with the amount of kite damage in this game yeah i love being a speedester main and having to deal with those broken things
@@pumpkin7446 easy sniping with inteleon, that you can t even see what you sniping? With a hit box of 1 millimeter? Yeah sure... If you hit every single snipe shot you will end with a 200k damage...
@@timothyturner3195 It really isn't hard to tell where people are moving in this game. All of the high traffic areas and escape routes are very obvious. And the "one millimeter" hitbox is just not true at all... I've hit people AND been hit with Snipe Shots that should miss if the visual cue was that accurate. You're just reaching for random nonsense to talk trash.
are you having as much fun as me with finding pokemon where Charm is strong on?
Yeahh... especially with tank leafeon.....
If ykyk
Currently, I'm more invested in the other item tbh. Having a lot of fun playing defenders and supports with it and diving the enemy team.
I’ve been using the charging charm on sableye and so far I’m getting pretty good results with my games.
Certainly interesting and adds another level to the puzzle of "best build"
I like that you’re cooking so I don’t have to
5:36 That clef was fighting for its life
Lmaoo it lasted for a good bit with 3 enemies or so chasing it
the thing about using charging charm on deci is if you use shadow sneak while charging charm charged up, the shadow sneak damage will consume it before you even use spirit shackle
If you're paying attention it shouldn't be a problem. The burst is still great with shackle
3:34 look in the chat
This doesn’t matter because the damage added by Charging Charm just scales off the user’s attack stat, not the move being used, so no matter whether the damage is added to Sneak or to Shackle, the damage should be about the same.
Better than float stone. As long as charging charm isn’t at 100, it won’t proc and you can see the charge number. Unlike float stone wherein there is a hidden timer until it goes up.
@@BadCandyStudios true true
I'm very happy you tried this build, I thought of putting this item on Spirit Shackle Decidueye immediately after the item was released and I always had 100k damage or more after equipping it (still lost most of those because teammates...)
Can you help me understand the best play to make in the situation at 8:42, if it's not ripping Ray? I'm just going to dump out all of my thoughts, and if anyone sees something I didn't, please let me know. Your team has a better chance to secure Ray in a 5v3, so you have an advantage when ripping Ray (and their Blaziken with Overheat secure is at your base), and if you don't do something, then the enemy team continues to back cap and you guys sit guarding Ray for nothing. Eventually you might just decide to send your entire team toward one goal to push the opponents back and score, but you'll be pushing the enemy's T2 and potentially their base as well, which they will have the advantage on, without Ray shields. If you decide eventually to rip Ray after waiting because the match is getting close to ending and you need to make a move, then the back cappers may have rejoined the fight by then and the opponents might have an equal chance at securing in a 5v5 instead of a 3v5. However, if you guys rip Ray at the time that you did, it's possible that someone on the enemy team manages to steal it (it's not TOO unlikely in a 3v5), and then you're done. With the two back cappers, though, I can't really see a reason not to go for the Ray rip when your team did, as forcing the other 3 members of their team to come in and find themselves in a losing team fight might be enough to make sure you get it.
You are right. I don't know why he said that in the clip. ESPECIALLY playing spirit shackle deci.
I love this item, I use charm, muscle, float stone because I hate stacking especially as Decidueye
Hey Chris!
There are new hints in the current Christmas loading screen.
1) The board on top of the Christmas tree shows Pokemon in two fighting stance. They look like throh and sawk.
2) to the right of that there's a silhouette of smeargle.
Boutta write that but then saw ur comment.Nice observation btw.
You do realize we had the same christmas loading screen back in 2021 and 2022?and they still havent even been leaked?
@@Twilight-kb5to Oh! I Didn't know that.
My beloved owl is top tier again💪❤️
Love the item on Fly Bird. It finishes charging while you are soaring then BOOM. Add float stone and speed emblems and you can almost outrun an xspeed.
Random but seeing you as Owl against two of the shortest range attackers makes me excited for Draft mode and the videos you'll make about what mons to pick vs what. I wonder if Inteleon will be a mandatory pick vs Owl.
Been off for unite for a couple of weeks now, whay exactly do the new items do again?
Was waiting for this
as soon as i read the patch notes i was hella excited to try this on decidueye and it does fr cook
love the item on deci, but playing deci in soloq is nothing but pain. one game i was playing out of body but the enemy m2y would solo unite me, teleport to me, and play melee lmao it should be a crime to get away with that but deci struggles to self peel
Yeah timi should remove the speed boost from zacians agility and mewtwos teleport, or buff every other non ex dash moves.
Try a max crit build for absol, like crit hit emblems, scope lens, metal claw and night slash it's a one hit KO but it comes at the price of HP
But float stone give you flat movement speed increase! That combined with movement speed from charging charm would help you out run people if they had no x speed or eject up.
that team was amazing tho
Bro cris, I have like 10k aeos coins. Which Pokémon is the best rn above 10 k?
I used this build a few days ago and it was very fun tbh with muscle band, crit thing, and the new energy thing this was in ranked too and I got 120k damage with it it’s a fun build
if you run AW make sure to stack atleast 2 so it better stat than float ston or curse item
So does the damage boost just last for one attack on any move or basic attacks?
Yeah I think so
for the next damage move whether that be an arrow shadow sneak or basic attacks. i think unite move might (?) count
its literally like choice specs but for physical attacker and you can build up the cool down faster while choice specs always has the same cool down
@@CrisHeroes ah okay that's a better way of putting it
@@CrisHeroes and even auto atks can trigger the bonus dmg
Who should I take dragapult or tyranitar?
im droppin muscle band for chargin charm
How about energy amp?
Energy amp might still be better for third item?
Spirit shacke never fails to jumpscare attackers
as far as no. goes charging charm gives around 10% dmg increase on a charged spirit shackle and this % only rises as you level up but it is a very negligible increase. also stacks or no stacks it is 10% increase. also it was tested for lvl9,13,15 basically late game. for early game i'm not sure about the % but i think it hardly changes. (this 10% dmg increase is only for spirit shackle this % varies from "moves to moves" and "pokemon to pokemon". it is NOT a 10% dmg increase for all for eg dodrio"s boosted auto attacks get a 25-26% damage boost(tested on level 9,13,15) when charge is full)
Chris bro try attack weight and all max physical dmg item to show us deci's potential
Charging charm can work on tyranitar . What do you think ???
Damn that fps drop 😂 really messes you up
Hey cris can you tell me what is the best 3rd held item of machamp after atk weight & razor. Is it scope or eng amplifier or weakness?
scope if you play cross chop
I know I'm not Cris but I play with sub and close combat I use weight, razor, and float stone or weakness policy, if you're not using sub I'd go policy
Ok got it.
@@cottonmouthasmr8713 you played those movesets cause of unstoppable?
@@TheDaniel_X I just like being able to pick them up and slam them I hide in the bushes and can kill the squishies in one combo
Can you guess what pokemon will come after gyarados ? Just any guess..
with a high chancce it will be Miraidon
It'd be cool if charging charm boosted your next move rather than basic attacks and moves, making basic attacks slightly stronger doesn't seem to do much.
I think I'm liking the shield one more, u know being more tanky is lovely and irritating the entire enemt team is 😙
pls say you dont use it on owl
@@sinhi986 🤐
Can we not use Scope muscle and charm with stacking? Not tried it just curious
scope is only good for razor leaf
Please can you try charging charm on dragonite hyper beam
Eagerly waiting for Next Phone stream
Where was the enemy blaziken going at the end 😂
Love when the opponents all lign up together 7:30
Justice for dpult bro 💀 poor thing got sniped nearly every time he appeared
As a diehard deci main best combo by far is curse bangle, float stone, charging charm, and x speed, and aint even close.
I'm a deci main as well. I agree. The battle item is team dependent, but x speed is a favorite of mine. Curse is my replacement for attack weight if I am forced to jungle. I'm actually very happy to see you didn't include muscle band. It's such a bad item on spirit deci. He keeps saying deci didn't have a third item, and it was making me uncomfortable. He was missing an item, but float wasn't just a place holder it's mandatory with spirit.
@@closeenough1343 I would argue that attack weight isn't needed at all since scoring with the owl is a huge risk since he has no escape options, but it's still good for the base damage. I value the curse bangle all the way since reducing healing on the enemy team is huge and is mandatory for every team to take. When draft kicks in and we can actually see the team then the curse item can be a flex since the heal reduction isn't drastically needed for every pokemon. I just take it in case I do face healing threats because I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. And I always say the auto attacking items are a throw since you never want to be in auto range to begin with, which is why razor leaf is and will always be a throw.
@maestrotritone5975 I agree. I look at the curse item as exp share. It's that important to have. At least 1 person on the team needs it, or two is best. So many people don't understand why these youtubers keep styling on them, penta after penta. It's because nobody has a curse item. It's mandatory in rank.
that Blaziken was so painful to watch, literally did everything wrong
the mew is caligola btw
Why is muscle band a core item on spirit shackle decidueye if you aren't auto-based?
Might be used to farm wild pokes faster.
Buffing few items will make heros good
Kinda Indirect buff
Ye really good build need to get charging charm to lvl 30 lol😅 nice vid
Great! Now my melees will get deleted from a safe distance at twice the speed!
Finally the video i was waiting for!!!!
New item maybe good on dragon dance and hyper beam dragonite
I find scope lens, muscle band, and razor claw is the best. Dominates at close range with almost 50% crit rate and really good tap firing
I dont understand why people use muscle band in place of rapid fire scarf!
Cool but for me Razor Leaf muscle rapid weight is too op to pass up
Decidueye is all cocky until a greedent runs him home with a bullet seed 😂
Lets be real,greedent is slowbro 2.0 but with speed
Ddance dragonite is lit🔥
decidueye is my favourite pokemon to play
Bro why don't you try azumaril with both new held item and one shot urshifu with charm❤. Plzz try these builds😊
Same build, stone against muscle also gives good speed
without muscle early game and taking objectives is a pain though
Muscle, CC and Stone is better cause it's very unlikely you will ever get 6 stacks early enough to impact the game.
@@aaliyan22 as a deci main, completely agree. You want repositioning and burst damage, and that build provides it. You're too squishy to overextend and stack consistently
@@gjbell86Yup. It's painful when you are stuck in the middle of a fight and your team randomly runs away. Repositioning is your only hope.
if its better than why does every single competitive tournament Decidueye run attack weight?
some ppl in your chat don't seem to understand that shadow sneak activating the charm is a good thing actually...
Regardless of whether it activates from shadown sneak or spirit shackle, it will do the same damage and since shadow sneak is better to find a target and deal one instance of damage than basically everything in the game except mewtwo unite move, it's actually one of the best moves to use with charm
Is razor leaf ever used competitively?
No
I am doing 175-200k every game with deci because of charging charm
Charging charm float stone attack weight spirit shackle is gross you try it
I don’t feel like Charging Charm is that good with Spirit Shackle. With Razor Lead tho, you activate it a ton and it adds so much damage to basic attacks that you’re constantly using, I feel like it’s really good with that move instead
am I the the only one who have issues with the game ? it doesn't want to load, I'm blocked in the purple loading screen :/
Also gives him.more speed
Did anyone see that cris staked once
Scoring with Decidueye is difficult. Some games you can only get one or two.
would love to use this build against japanese players
Oh boy this season is gonna be so cringe with the amount of kite damage in this game yeah i love being a speedester main and having to deal with those broken things
People over value muscle band on deci to a criminal degree. Muscle band is useless on deci if you play shackle.
Plz make a video on invisible glicth with Mewtwo Y with skin This makes game irritating
Plz like this comment so that he can make a video on it
Wait wats a charging charm?😮🤔🤨🧐
new held item!
Ah yes, don’t worry I knew that, also remember me?
Claudécio
Ahhh the owl.. the snipers for no hand players that can t aim inteleon snipe shot
They're both just as easy. Your comment is pointless.
@@pumpkin7446 easy sniping with inteleon, that you can t even see what you sniping? With a hit box of 1 millimeter? Yeah sure... If you hit every single snipe shot you will end with a 200k damage...
@@timothyturner3195 It really isn't hard to tell where people are moving in this game. All of the high traffic areas and escape routes are very obvious.
And the "one millimeter" hitbox is just not true at all... I've hit people AND been hit with Snipe Shots that should miss if the visual cue was that accurate.
You're just reaching for random nonsense to talk trash.
@@pumpkin7446 sure
As a decidueye main, I’m not convinced yet on this item, I’d like to try it at lv30 but that’ll take a ton of tickets 🎟️