In my field it was the Efficiency Consultant. Hell, they almost installed timers on our computers that would track when we turned it on and worked of course. Siging in and out at lunch. And them, of course at the end of the day. Clock watchers. Then they proposed rating us "By The Piece" Only problem was were weren't a garment manufacturer. We were an insurance company. Insured the employees, etc. Ridiculous.
@@ToniHunterOne Getting edicts from 'management' telling us to ask doctors if we _really_ need an insured medication; or telling us to restrict refreshment and washroom use to paid breaks. Or even one I saw--"please do not move around the office or look out windows"
This was the best episode of WKRP ever, in my personal opinion. And this was a well written show, with the best actors around, so that's saying something. Mama Carlson's "You've been a very bad boy" line is her best one of the entire series. The words are simple and hardly unique, but in context it is a perfect line! And Andy's sheepish look as he sits on the couch while she delivers it is perfect. And the guest star displays the most irritating, smug, self-righteous, attitude every second that he's on the screen. I can't say enough good things about this episode.
I had forgotten all about Hirsch, what a funny character he was, I miss the show so much. I have not found the episode of wrestler turned evangelist yet, my favorite.
This show was both entertaining and informative. It gave you a look behind the curtain at how pop radio operated and how much corporate cash lubed the gears....
I was a senior in High School when this show came out...everyone loved the humor. I recall how funny the Thanksgiving Turkey Give Away was to watch...total classic!!!
Carol Bruce and Ian Wolfe were a couple of old pros. They both knew good writing when they saw it, and they played the hell out of it. You can tell they were having fun.
She is so good for someone who never even started out to be an actor at all (to my understanding) and was just discovered after winding up on the cover of NEWSWEEK (which I actually well remember!). . Fun to see David Clenno, who was the creepiest Thing in THE THING, here playing to consultant., under the name "Norris", I presume as an in-joke of the name of the other major "thing" in that same film. Someone had to be deliberately planting that as a (pre-Easter egg) Easter egg.
And his character was named Norris. THAT had to be a deliberate "in-joke" (as they used to be called. I'm pretty sure this episode was filmed after to the making of THE THING.
They had to fight the network to get to make that episode. Their logic was that the incident took place in Cincinnati and had they been a real station, it would have been them actually covering it.
This episode is one of my favorites! It touches on so many things and written, produced, and played extremely well. Lonnie, playing Jennifer, and Jennifer playing an airhead is one of my favorite moments in TV history.
I sure miss old school radio stations....the conglomerates came in and absolutely destroyed KMOD in Tulsa and they were the stuff of legends in the radio world whom we thought would never sell out to the man. We got disappointed.
moosehand8721 I hear ya man. The same thing happened to the greatest Rock & Roll radio station ever. 94.7 KMET in L.A. KMET broadcasted from the same building that they filmed WKRP in .Metro Media Square. They tore down the building in 1994 and built a high school on the same spot. I hope the kids know what hallowed ground they are walking on . R.I.P. KMET Feb.14,1987 the day that Real R & R died in L.A.
@@lilorbielilorbie2496 that's a station dear to your heart brother, I feel ya, when you gave the date of death there at the end I heard Don McLean sing "the day the music died" in my head.♥️at least we still have our vinyls to hear the old sacred sounds through the stylus needle like it was meant to be heard.
@@moosehand8721 Yes it was a very big part of my youth for sure. I can tell you exactly where I was when they went off the air. I was at the intersection of Ocean Blvd. and Shoreline Drive in Long Beach , CA. I was turning left to go down by the Queen Mary. I was driving my 1985 Ford Mustang GT that I bought brand new on Dec.24,1984. It seems like a life time ago and then some times it's like it was just yesterday.
I used to DX using a little, but powerful, Panasonic desk top radio back in the 80's up here in Toronto at night. I'd listen to WOWO, WBT ("Hello Henry"), WHAS, WCCO, WGZ, WHEE, WCLE, WBAP, WGN, WROC and such like. But before the 80's were through, I couldn't listen any more since almost all the stations had either Suze Orman peddling financial advice, Larry King or one or two other syndicated shows. They were OK but, every single station!? No music, no local news anymore (at night anyway). This was long before the Internet killed anything and I hardly ever listen to radio now and for some years at that.
I love the look on Andy's face when Mrs. Carlson tells him the consultant is already in town and has been monitoring WKRP for the last several days. Andy must have been thinking "Oh s**t". And I love the way Jennifer later perfectly played the stereotyped dumb blonde when talking to the consultant, following Andy's plan to completely screw up his report.
As a radio guy for about 40 years now - got my first gig not long after this went off the air - without a doubt one of my favorite lines comes from Andy, after Norris tells him nobody is programming their music anymore: "We are, and that's the way it's going to stay." Of course, the consultant was pretty much correct, that most stations in larger and medium markets weren't programming their stations by the early '80s. And that's when stations started sounding homogenous, and your rock station in Pittsburgh sounded much like your rock station in Dallas, and it became even more so that way as we got into the '90s and the corporate radio takeover.
my favorite episode, and the point where bailey looks up and to her right and smiles, always makes my knees weak, also, how brilliant is Hirsh, the comic relief in an already brilliant comedy show
Anyone who finds the content of the episode interesting should read "FM: The Rise and Fall of Rock Radio" by Richard Neer. In his decades in the radio business he blames these consultants and programmers as what killed radio and he references a few WKRP episodes. Some of his real life stories are as funny as the show.
I remember this episode and I also remember thinking that I must think differently than most males because Jennifer was supposed to be the super hot girl but I couldn't look away from Bailey. I was only like 9 years old but I thought she was the prettiest girl in the world. I don't feel differently now
Sooooo, "Palmer" wound up surviving and is now going under the name "Norris"...I guess The Thing has a sense of humor that it never revealed earlier. Personally, I suspect he/it has already taken over Bailey, and, possibly,....Hirsch. The scariest episode of WKRP.
Too corporate. There was always the corporate factor, but the ratio is so imbalanced, perhaps there's not even a ratio anymore! This started in the mid or late-90s, and was the clear beginning of the end. No more artistic or natural element anymore, or even "free" factor. It's all trash now and due for an overhaul. Radio, television, mainstream music, film, etc.
I noticed as well that a few bits are omitted. Not much, but apparently enough to add at least 60 seconds for your local TV station to insert another ad or two.
Probably came from a syndicated rerun broadcast. Most shows had edits to pack in more commercials. Very bothersome when you’d seen the original first run episode and are looking forward to seeing it again only to find whole scenes missing. The Office had many funny bits just vanish in syndication. Nothing is worse than feature films that start with “This film has been edited for content and to run in the allotted time.” I won’t even bother then.
ok, well two major flaws in the story, one, Venus was a friend of Travis that travis brought to the station, and Venus made the name up his first time on air, so no way that the consultant knew of him.
You must be very proud of yourself for finding and pointing out continuity errors in 40 year old TV shows. Next you'll be telling us that WKRP wasn't a real radio station . Nothing gets by the jerseyguy ! Find a hobby
Andy has mad skills. Never misses.
miss this show
Hirsch was excellent as the sarcastic butler bantering back n forth with Mrs. Carlson so elegantly!!!
The total brilliance of the writing team on display here.
And everyone got to play the flipside concept of their role...
Gotta love Hirsch, lol!!!!
Ian Wolfe.
I agree
@@cynthiamcwhorter6721Mr atoz from original Star Trek never ages, maybe our time was his destination?
When I worked in radio the word "consultant" meant the beginning of the end
"You're too original. Or ... popular, but the wrong kind of popular."
I've never met anyone in radio who liked that word. Unless they were in upper management. And sometimes, not even THEN.
@@77barrymac 'Music industry consultants' telling musicians: "forget about music and concentrate on image, brand, and merchandise."
In my field it was the Efficiency Consultant. Hell, they almost installed timers on our computers that would track when we turned it on and worked of course. Siging in and out at lunch. And them, of course at the end of the day. Clock watchers. Then they proposed rating us "By The Piece" Only problem was were weren't a garment manufacturer. We were an insurance company. Insured the employees, etc. Ridiculous.
@@ToniHunterOne Getting edicts from 'management' telling us to ask doctors if we _really_ need an insured medication; or telling us to restrict refreshment and washroom use to paid breaks. Or even one I saw--"please do not move around the office or look out windows"
Hersch was definitely an unsung hero on this beloved cast of misfits!
Mr. ATOZ in Star Trek.
This is such a delight. Everyone playing against type.
This was the best episode of WKRP ever, in my personal opinion. And this was a well written show, with the best actors around, so that's saying something. Mama Carlson's "You've been a very bad boy" line is her best one of the entire series. The words are simple and hardly unique, but in context it is a perfect line! And Andy's sheepish look as he sits on the couch while she delivers it is perfect. And the guest star displays the most irritating, smug, self-righteous, attitude every second that he's on the screen. I can't say enough good things about this episode.
We didn't see Hersh and Mrs. C. much, but damn...some of the funniest parts in the entire show.
We were seeing them more, and would've seen even more of them if there had been season 5.
I had forgotten all about Hirsch, what a funny character he was, I miss the show so much. I have not found the episode of wrestler turned evangelist yet, my favorite.
I tried to upload it but I was blocked from sharing it.
@@RockinRitchieRitchBummer and thank you for the effort.
It's downstairs in the Honda.
Norris walking in on Johnny being accosted by Venus had me dying :P
This show was both entertaining and informative. It gave you a look behind the curtain at how pop radio operated and how much corporate cash lubed the gears....
This show was a classic. Totally underappreciated for a 30 minute sitcom.
I always thought that Hirsch was a hoot.
Yes he is 😂
Hirsch was portrayed by the great Ian Wolfe, who appeared in many TV shows and movies going all the way back to the 40's.
He was so great.
His timing and candor is just ideal.
Bailey Quarters! So damned cute.
I was a senior in High School when this show came out...everyone loved the humor. I recall how funny the Thanksgiving Turkey Give Away was to watch...total classic!!!
This is my absolute favourite WKRP Episode, even ahead of the Turkey drop one! Pure genius.
completely agree
"The Consultant" is easily in my KRP top 5.
Turkey drop is my favorite! Completely hilarious!
Carol Bruce and Ian Wolfe were a couple of old pros. They both knew good writing when they saw it, and they played the hell out of it. You can tell they were having fun.
I was a long haul trucker for nearly 30 years and every time I drove through Cincinnati I thought about WKRP...
I love the drums the triangle and the symbol very cool
Bailey was brilliant
She is so good for someone who never even started out to be an actor at all (to my understanding) and was just discovered after winding up on the cover of NEWSWEEK (which I actually well remember!). .
Fun to see David Clenno, who was the creepiest Thing in THE THING, here playing to consultant., under the name "Norris", I presume as an in-joke of the name of the other major "thing" in that same film. Someone had to be deliberately planting that as a (pre-Easter egg) Easter egg.
The consultant is Palmer from “The Thing”.
David Clennon...He was also Miles Drentell from "thirtysomething".
@@rwilhite001I was wondering if anyone else caught that. Too bad they don’t stream thirtysomething for free.
@@rwilhite001Everything was so blurry I couldn't tell, but the moment I saw the thumbnail I thought, "Is there any way...?" Just knew.
And his character was named Norris. THAT had to be a deliberate "in-joke" (as they used to be called. I'm pretty sure this episode was filmed after to the making of THE THING.
Still F--ING FUNNY after all these years!!
The BEST episode next to the concert deaths one
here's a link to the concert one and a couple others too! ua-cam.com/video/qKE3zBXHGpk/v-deo.html
They had to fight the network to get to make that episode. Their logic was that the incident took place in Cincinnati and had they been a real station, it would have been them actually covering it.
Hirsh is great. He should have gotten a spinoff.
If they hadn't already done it with Benson, he might have.
Hirsch reminds me of Benson from Soap, who did get a spin off. I agree Hirsch could have done the same!!!
This episode is one of my favorites! It touches on so many things and written, produced, and played extremely well. Lonnie, playing Jennifer, and Jennifer playing an airhead is one of my favorite moments in TV history.
Loni, not Lonnie
The turkey drop episode is my favorite, still brings tears to my eyes😂😂😂😂
The turkey bomb episode gets the press, but this episode where everyone plays against type is solid gold.
I sure miss old school radio stations....the conglomerates came in and absolutely destroyed KMOD in Tulsa and they were the stuff of legends in the radio world whom we thought would never sell out to the man. We got disappointed.
moosehand8721 I hear ya man. The same thing happened to the greatest Rock & Roll radio station ever. 94.7 KMET in L.A. KMET broadcasted from the same building that they filmed WKRP in .Metro Media Square. They tore down the building in 1994 and built a high school on the same spot. I hope the kids know what hallowed ground they are walking on . R.I.P. KMET Feb.14,1987 the day that Real R & R died in L.A.
@@lilorbielilorbie2496 that's a station dear to your heart brother, I feel ya, when you gave the date of death there at the end I heard Don McLean sing "the day the music died" in my head.♥️at least we still have our vinyls to hear the old sacred sounds through the stylus needle like it was meant to be heard.
@@moosehand8721 Yes it was a very big part of my youth for sure. I can tell you exactly where I was when they went off the air. I was at the intersection of Ocean Blvd. and Shoreline Drive in Long Beach , CA. I was turning left to go down by the Queen Mary. I was driving my 1985 Ford Mustang GT that I bought brand new on Dec.24,1984. It seems like a life time ago and then some times it's like it was just yesterday.
I used to DX using a little, but powerful, Panasonic desk top radio back in the 80's up here in Toronto at night. I'd listen to WOWO, WBT ("Hello Henry"), WHAS, WCCO, WGZ, WHEE, WCLE, WBAP, WGN, WROC and such like. But before the 80's were through, I couldn't listen any more since almost all the stations had either Suze Orman peddling financial advice, Larry King or one or two other syndicated shows. They were OK but, every single station!? No music, no local news anymore (at night anyway). This was long before the Internet killed anything and I hardly ever listen to radio now and for some years at that.
They ruined wmji cleveland. Broke up the morning show.
This show was ahead of its time and simply could not find an audience that understood the complexities of the characters and plots.
The network torpedoed the show by constantly switching its time slots. It was deliberate.
I love the look on Andy's face when Mrs. Carlson tells him the consultant is already in town and has been monitoring WKRP for the last several days. Andy must have been thinking "Oh s**t". And I love the way Jennifer later perfectly played the stereotyped dumb blonde when talking to the consultant, following Andy's plan to completely screw up his report.
As a radio guy for about 40 years now - got my first gig not long after this went off the air - without a doubt one of my favorite lines comes from Andy, after Norris tells him nobody is programming their music anymore: "We are, and that's the way it's going to stay." Of course, the consultant was pretty much correct, that most stations in larger and medium markets weren't programming their stations by the early '80s. And that's when stations started sounding homogenous, and your rock station in Pittsburgh sounded much like your rock station in Dallas, and it became even more so that way as we got into the '90s and the corporate radio takeover.
Thanks for posting! Brought back memories of my teen years. One of the best comedy series ever!
This was a great episode.
my favorite episode, and the point where bailey looks up and to her right and smiles, always makes my knees weak, also, how brilliant is Hirsh, the comic relief in an already brilliant comedy show
I think of this show whenever we have an inspector or a tour visit our plant...lol.
Bailey did so good in this😅
The consultant was in The Thing and The Right Stuff
And named "Norris", which must have been intended as an in-joke.
Anyone who finds the content of the episode interesting should read "FM: The Rise and Fall of Rock Radio" by Richard Neer. In his decades in the radio business he blames these consultants and programmers as what killed radio and he references a few WKRP episodes. Some of his real life stories are as funny as the show.
Yeah, Scott Muni was PD at WNEW-FM and hired him there. He eventually became PD himself.
@@ApartmentKing66 And that was the least interesting part of his story. The place he worked for before that was hilarious.
The spectre of Audicy and iHeartRadio lurking in the near future here guys......
Pretty funny,everyone was the exact opposite...andy made him look like a fool..
Great. Show. Really. Miss. It
Love this show
I love this show thank you for this
I remember this episode and I also remember thinking that I must think differently than most males because Jennifer was supposed to be the super hot girl but I couldn't look away from Bailey. I was only like 9 years old but I thought she was the prettiest girl in the world. I don't feel differently now
Hersh!
Consultants destroyed radio. They all have permission from me to off themselves.
That old Butler was on Star Trek he was a librarian
Sooooo, "Palmer" wound up surviving and is now going under the name "Norris"...I guess The Thing has a sense of humor that it never revealed earlier. Personally, I suspect he/it has already taken over Bailey, and, possibly,....Hirsch.
The scariest episode of WKRP.
She boots him right out the door
Venus is the thug 🤣
Who needs coke with Loni Anderson in the office!
Not just in radio. Consultants come in with their ideas and prejudice. If you don’t fit their profile your performance is irrelevant.
Hirsch was good
They make a cute couple 😂
Radio used to be awesome. Not like the shit pile it is today.
Too corporate. There was always the corporate factor, but the ratio is so imbalanced, perhaps there's not even a ratio anymore! This started in the mid or late-90s, and was the clear beginning of the end. No more artistic or natural element anymore, or even "free" factor. It's all trash now and due for an overhaul. Radio, television, mainstream music, film, etc.
This episode is heavily edited. Still great though.
sorry it is the only copy I had. It came off of TV.
I noticed as well that a few bits are omitted. Not much, but apparently enough to add at least 60 seconds for your local TV station to insert another ad or two.
Probably came from a syndicated rerun broadcast. Most shows had edits to pack in more commercials. Very bothersome when you’d seen the original first run episode and are looking forward to seeing it again only to find whole scenes missing. The Office had many funny bits just vanish in syndication. Nothing is worse than feature films that start with “This film has been edited for content and to run in the allotted time.” I won’t even bother then.
Seems like some editing . but sure appreciate the video !
it came off of a TV rerun. Only copy I had.
Hirsch's role was WAY too small.
I prefer Jennifer like that than her normal self.
Oh look!...its governor nuisance!
ok, well two major flaws in the story, one, Venus was a friend of Travis that travis brought to the station, and Venus made the name up his first time on air, so no way that the consultant knew of him.
You must be very proud of yourself for finding and pointing out continuity errors in 40 year old TV shows. Next you'll be telling us that WKRP wasn't a real radio station . Nothing gets by the jerseyguy !
Find a hobby
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Why post this? The quality of this reminds me of the TV reception east of the Iron Curtain.
Much as I wanted to, I just couldn’t warm to this show. It lacked “something”. If it were food, it’d be empty calories.
Lonnie's best role........