Battle of Salamis 480 BC (Persian Invasion of Greece) DOCUMENTARY
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Two of the very first civilizations - Greek and Persian - fought for millennia, so it is not a surprise that some of the most memorable battles of the ancient era were between them. The battle of Salamis of 480 BC was central in defence of free Greece against the Persian invasion and can be considered a focal point the history of mankind. Enjoy the video and then join us in the comments section!
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Primary sources used:
Hanson, Victor Davis (2001). Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power. New York: DoubleDay, 2001
Green, Peter (1998). The Greco-Persian Wars. Berkeley
Сергеев В. С. Глава IX. Греко-персидские войны // История Древней Греции. - М.: АСТ, 2008
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Thanks, Aleksandar, that is an interesting point. We will have to discuss it.
and also don't forgot albanians
nurrrik & phoenix Pls continue with battles in Balkans. Balkan is rich in history, crossroad of the world.
nurrrik & phoenix Euboia is pronounced Evia
Orest, Emperor, ok :-)
Quality Videos, I think that Evia is the secondary toponym.
Never seen a channel owner replying this much to comments, even to hateful ones. Also loved the use of Total War clips lol. Keep it up!!
Thank you! We love our audience and think that dialogue is the best way to solve the issues. :-)
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Yes I love the total war clips know this is old but I saw this comment and had to concur’ xD
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+History Time thank you, my friend!
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Over 100k now!
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...Then Sparta allied with the Persians against Athens a generation later lol.
Yep, Peloponnesian wars were all kinda messed up and in a way made Punic Wars possible.
I mean that Greco-Persian wars caused Peloponnesian wars and they eventually led to the rise of Macedon and as Greeks started losing their positions across the Eastern Mediterranean, Carthage filled the vacuum and that, in a way, led to the war over Sicily. It is all a bit of a stretch, of course. :-)
Yep agreed, the Peloponnesian and also Diadochi wars weakened Greek hegemony in the Mediterranean which paved the way for the Carthaginians and Romans.
Mithridates Persia with Sparta not Sparta with Persia...Persia wanted the Greek states weakend. but that didn't work with the Spartan just yet
I agree with the video maker btw :)
I am an Iranian and I am proud of my country's history and I also love Greece
It is true that at that time Iran and Greece were also enemies, but now there is no enmity between us at all
No shit. Imagine hating one another over something that happened 2500 years ago.
Pretty sure Greece and Turkey still hate eachother tho
Stay in games kid let wars for real mens
iran should pay for sack of ATHEN
@@לעזאזלעםגוביידן ok make us pay you Zionist NATO dogs lol ....
As a Persian who is interested in history I usually find some videos with the same topic biased but this was a really nice and unbiased video with good info. Thanks my friend.
Thank you for watching! You will find out that we have a great respect for all history in general and for the Iranian history in particular.
Loup DeFer it’s doesn’t make sense , Many countries has been under rules of anothers in past . Official name of Iran until 1935 was Persia and Persians calling himselfs Pârsi/Fârsi Zabân .
@@saeedvazirian Iranians always called it Iran but other countries called it Persia because thats the name the Greeks used
Loup DeFer
so greeks must be Turks too, yeah?🤔🤔
The more ur anchestor were invaded the more diverse genetics u will have , is it that hard to comprehend ?
I’m a Greek historian. I specialize in the Persian Wars. I approve this video! Εύγε!
Thank you!
Kings and Generals I thought the Spartans were only 300 in the battle of Thermopylae? Please enlighten me
There were at least a few hundred light missile infantry from the helots, plus a number of allied hoplites.
Kings and Generals that tells it.. Thank you..
George Kokkos help
"It's not about the size of the boat, it's about the motion in the ocean"
Themistokles, 480BC
Hahaha😂😂 I mean it worked so....☠
Long live Iran and Greece, two nations with roots in the region
thank you for your awesome videos you are doing a great job please do more videos on Iran, there have been many wars that Iran was involved in both in Pre-Isalmic and Islamic era thanks again :)
Thanks for watching! :-)
Greetings and respect from a Greek to pre Islamic Iran -Persia
@@nikolaostouloumis1573 Pre-Islamic Iran was still called Iran back then, half-Turk.
@@nikolaostouloumis1573 great respect to the Islamic empire and it's commander Khalid Bin Walid for defeating the Byzantines and for subduing the persian empire at the same time
Cyrus per-islamic great king of iran Shah Abbas great king of Islamic era of iran
Amazing!! I live in Salamis. Every day I pass by the sight of the battle.. every day i get chills.
Greco-Persian wars are my favorite era in history, a timeline full of challenges, changes, two brutal enemies who in a way also respected each other. God bless Hellas and Persia!
Yeah, the starting point for any fan of history. :-) Appreciate your respectful comment. :-)
Sepehr Voshmgir Despite the burning of Persepolis, he showed immediate regret, just as Xerxes had when he burned down Athens. Alexander evidently had a deep respect for Persian civilisation or at least felt compelled to portray such respect. He recruited many Persians in his Army, giving many of them critical positions and can be seen even as early as the Battle of Hydaspes. Alexander was also an admirer of Cyrus, mainly through Xenephon’s Cyropaedia.
@@timurthelamest5630 nope, no evidence for that bullshit. Deep respect by committing brutal invasions? Nope. 'at least'? Fucking at least? Lmao do you pay this type of respect to Arabs and Turks then or are you just a hypocrite? Persians never fought Indians at the Battle of Hydaspes, why the fuck would they kill their Indian allies. alexander wasn't an admirer o Cyrus you dumbfuck. How does an admirer murder his descendants, lol! Cyropaedia, that nti-Persian propaganda? You can't even make your case. Yeah, deep respect. 'he showed immediate regret', really, you were there? you absolve someone if they show regret after burning your home. fuck off. No pushovers in Iran.
The Greeks didn’t respect the Persians
@@syphernynx4186 Well the Persians respected Hellenes even less.
Two historical countries with powerful people 🇮🇷🇬🇷💚💙
Greece better though
@Dmog97 Dream on
Imagine Iran being stronk
@@Dmog97achanemid empire is the largest empire of aincent world so no
@@nikolozkiziria419Georgian your heart and women belong to us
Love Persia❤
From Tajikistan.
Respect Greece from Iran.
@ایران گرایی says a person whose forefathers was conquered by desert people and has to abandon their own religion and adopt a desert cult to survive 😂😂
@ایران گرایی at least it was a great cult to kill people and establish an empire and force convert the population of land they conquered just like your cowards forefathers did.
@@maku8075 You’re a hater
Love Greece from iran 😁❤
Go back to ur Zoroastrian roots than following that desert cult of islam
@@ayushbh6839 dude he only said love greece. Islam has nothing to do with this
Supreme Leader, I agree with you from a Persian.
love persian history! ❤️from new york!
@@ayushbh6839 islam didnt exist in that time bruh
Awesome video
Fun fact Themistocles who defeated Xerxes was later forced to Flee Greece. Ironically, he was forced to flee to Persia the same civilization which he had defeated. Artaxerxes, the son of Xerxes, Grants him amnesty
"I, Themistocles, am come to you, who did your house more harm than any of the Hellenes, when I was compelled to defend myself against your father's invasion-harm, however, far surpassed by the good that I did him during his retreat, which brought no danger for me but much for him." (Thucydides)
He didnt flee to Persia...he ended up in Macedonia which was ruled by the Persian Artaxerxes at that time.
After his death, his body is said to be taken in Persia. He died because he took poison, after Artaxerxes, asked him
to help him suppress the revolution that happened in Egypt. But Themistocles didnt do it, because he didnt like to go against the Greek interests.
I love greco persian stuff
Love to persia from a greek
Thanks for watching, consider sharing this video. :-)
nurrrik & phoenix I will
Thanks! :-)
Love to Greece from Persia! I hope Iran and Greece become superpowers again but this time we will be friends.
Well our region is different than your region! :)) I mean it is easy to be a superpower in middle east but not in Europe!
The city of Athens was left to be taken since all the troops went to Salamis because of the Delphi Oracle prophecy.
"'Though all else shall be taken, Zeus, the all seeing, grants that the wooden wall only shall not fail."
Argument raged as to what this 'wooden wall' could mean, with many believing it to be the thorn bushes surrounding the Acropolis. Themistocles had an answer of his own: the wooden wall, he argued, was nothing less than the fleet they had spent these last few years hurriedly constructing.
He won the day and then gave the order for Athens itself to be abandoned…
Viva Greece, viva Persia! Much history behind these two
Viva Tuto
I love Persia or Iran!Great history,beautiful country...
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and we love greece and greeks back! :-)
@@fis3746 thx braddas
@Kj_mast_er wdym
@@parysatissh6978 you are zoroastrian right?
TF? Iran is Persia idiot!! 🇮🇷🤦♂️
man i am from iraq and love your videos and i please to continue in this great channel beast Wishes your friend Mohammed from iraq
Thank you, my friend. Wish peace and prosperity to your land and people!
who cares if you are form iraq lol
Classy reply.
I mean, that was very random.
I have been to Iraq.. i went there in 2010 to diwaniyah. i was with the US army as a field artillery operator of a paladin field gun.
There is a historical myth that Darius, after he heard that Athens helped the revolts in Asia Minor, had a slave which only job was to, every day before dinner, remind Darius of Athens, so that he would not forget to take revenge.
I heard about that one. :-)
Achaemenids didn't have slaves
@@ramtinfazeli5106 Everyone had slaves, these empires are build on slaves
But its historical Because Darius did not have Alzheimer's to remind him every day
@@Amen-Magi So , cheerleaders are there on ground to remind players that they have to play the game ?
It's truly remarkable just how organised these peoples were all those years ago ,, and the scale of the battles are hard to imagine, incredible
Well done.👍🏻
Thank you! :-)
Zoroastrian Iranians and Hellenic Greeks, two of the greatest Indo-European Civilizations.
VoxPopuLiasse I agree
Don't say Hellenic Greeks, it's the same thing. What you literally said is Greek Greeks! Hellenic and Hellas are the greek words for Greek and Greece. Greek as a word comes from latin!
Brennos respect them both
both had nothing to do with Europe. As no such thing as a so called Europe existed back then lol
@@toxicrhythmz3718
The only thing that makes sense in your comment is the "lol" part...
Greek civilization was,is and will be the cradle of western civilization.
If Greeks had nothing to do with Europe,then this continent would have no name.
Extremely well presented n educative....fitting tribute to the military genius of Themistocles.
+SK Barik thank you, good sir!
Now this is a pure professionalism!
Narration, background music, graphics...
It's like History Channel from it's best days.
And I see you got 6 000 new sub's in less than a week.
So now I have to correct myself and raise my estimate to at least 50 000 sub's by the end of the year. :D
Great job guys!
Thank you for your support :-) Hopefully, we won't be as History Channel with all the alien nonsense. :-)
We will work towards that goal!
Aleksandar, I don't speak Serbian, unfortunately, but I know Russian. Do you mean that I spoilt the video with a clip from a video game or vice versa that I spoilt the game clip with my stupid video? :D
Ok, read your comment in English, got it. :-)
:-)
I think the reason why the History channel is so full of alien nonsense nowadays is because the channel was secretly taken over by Illuminati Martians. The clues are everywhere!
Greece and Iran
🇮🇷❤️🇬🇷 Have the most respectful histories and cultures in the world
Nice use of Total war Rome II. Great animations
That is Malay Archer's work. Check out his channel :-)
nurrrik & phoenix after watching this video I now playing Rome II Wrath of Sparta 😀
Good! :-) Try out the mod by Gyrosmeister, it is called the Last Stand of Greece and it is quite good. :-)
nurrrik & phoenix I will try that mod 😀
The best mod for wrath of sparta is HELLENIKA a total overhaul that makes the game divine..Hundreds of new units all historical accurate and a more challenging campaign with many changes..Give it a try you wont regret it..Make sure to read the manual first before playing
Greece and Persia both rival both indo European both strong civilizations both who wont to rule the word respect to them both
Nice video 👍🏻
@@арефнар Indo-European is a family of languages and cultures that stretches from India to Slovenia , with Iran in the middle and prominent. Watch the channel Bahador Alast, they compare Persian to a lot of languages on 3 continents and similarities exist.
@@арефнар Have you not heard of the Indo-European family?
@@арефнар I see you confuse Europeans (Peninsular Europeans) and Indo-Europeans (greater extent of the European family)
And yes, you are Indo-European. Theres a reason why Iran is called Iran having the same cognate origin as the word Aryan. Google it.
@@арефнар iran is indo European aling with india and Pakistan
@@historicallegends3702 Not all of India is Indo-European
This my favourite channel at the moment 💪🏻👌🏻
We need to keep that unchanged. :-)
Do more Roman stuff that would amazing 💪🏻👍🏻
We are thinking about it. Do you think we should do Roman battles despite the fact that Historia Civilis covered most of them?
Ofcourse there's so many battles and story's and to be fair I don't think HC or was that Baz battles ?did a lot he focused on the war against the Gauls mostly .but Rome is power !! 😎👍🏻
Got it, bombergun. :-)
the narrators voice is amazing, it really fits the theme of the channel and videos. brilliant videos and information keep it up!
Thank you very much! :-)
Alexander did the ultimate and best 'no u' moment in history. Change my mind.
nope, that was the Persians after destroying him, legitimizing Darius III. Mind changed. The Persians always win. Iran is still here. Iran won.
@@saeedvazirian1620 lmao Iran has the same GDP as Greece. Iran stay losing.
@@saeedvazirian1620 you sound so hurt by this lose alexander conquered your asses and him and hist generals had fun with your woman you where under Greek rule for 250 years. You couldn't even defeat the small Greek city states stay mad.
I dont hate Greece From Iran
🇮🇷♥🇬🇷
Iran during the Safavid dynasty was probably more sympathetic towards Greece since both shared a common enemy,the Ottoman empire.
I don't think Modern Greece hates Iran as well. This is just history. Even in ancient times, various Greeks aligned with Persia than Greece. Greece had 3 tribes, Dorian, Ionian, & Aeolians. Athens represented the Ionians mostly, and Sparta the Dorians but later Macedonia also Dorian took over as main power. Even Roman Greece or Eastern Roman Empire had more to do with Arab or Ottoman invasion than Persians. Modern Greece has zero hate towards Iran. I think they are considered friendly nations towards each other.
Bravo Iranian friend. Big respect to you!! unlike the Greeks who hate Turkey because Turks defeat them . Iranians are more man than the Greeks - according to ME
I like how Humble the Iranians are. Even tho His empire was defeated and later captured by the Greeks he loves you . Just like Jesus said "Love your ENEMIES"! Bravo Iran
I'm not trying to judge, but the GREEKS hold a Christian Cross in their flag and yet Hate the Turks! their enemies. how funny life is . Iran is not even Christian and yet He does the will of the FATHER more than the Greeks do .
parni iranian. i am proud i have parni blood
داداش خدايي همه جا هستي واي خدا بگم چيكارت كنه اصلا توو خواب هم نميديدم زير اين ويدئو كامنت بزاري اينجا ديگه چيكار ميكني :)
فقط توو فكر اينم خدايي بچه كجايي يعني الان دقيقا كجايي كه اين همه توو يوتيوب فعاليت ميكني Hhhhhhhhhhhhh
8:30 heavy hoplites? The Greeks had specialized troops to fight on sea, they did not just put a bunch of hoplites on a boat and said "Yea we have a strong navy"
I know that. :-) In this case, "heavy" means "heavier than the soldiers on the Persian ships."
my point is the "Hoplites" which is wrong in this case
What would have been a better designation?
you could say "marines" for example
So, most of the retellings I read claim that after Peloponnesian forces retreated to the east to defend on the Isthmus, only Athenian hoplites were left on Salamis and most of these hoplites embarked on the ships. The problem is, we rarely hear about non-hoplite Greek warriors in this period. I understand how heavy armor of hoplites can be detrimental to the ships, but most of my sources, again, agree that although ship sizes were similar for 2 navies, Greeks had smaller contingents of foot soldiers on their vessels, but even in this case had an advantage, as their soldiers had heavier panoply.
Thank you kings and generals for your efforts in making such nice videos
Thanks!
Excellent video. Also , good job mentioning the 700 Thespians who stayed with the Spartans till the end in Thermopylae since most people just forget about them. The Thebans however are a different story. Their city was pro Persian and their troops were forced to stay and didn't really fight.
Again, thanks for using my machinima :) !
Thank you, my friend :) Your machinimas make this video much more appealing. Good job.
I think that is worth to mention now, that Leonidas knew that holding Persians at Thermopylae was impossible in the long run. We know that he refused taking larger spartan force with him. He appealed to the ephors to give him only small contingent of soldiers, arguing that he doesn't want to lead spartans to their doom
+Kamil Szadkowski exactly this. Spartans always had problems with numbers. Couple of defeats basically ended their dominance.
Yep, I'd say That that this one unlucky earthquake was enough to break them in the long run. Well this and the fact that their conservatism stopped needed reforms. Heh.. I know another nation which disappeared from the maps because such lack of reforms :/
Oh, and great work as usual. Hopefully this video will skyrocket just like the documentary about Battle of Kosovo.
Thank you! To be honest, I was hopeful for Kirchholm. :-) Is there a battle that may interest Polish viewers?
Actually, this is what I find weird. Battle of Grunwald and Battle of Kircholm documentaries should've skyrocketed easily. When Reply History channel (pretty much dead right now) made a video about Battle of Warsaw 1920 it got half a million views in mere days. The same should have happened with other battles you presented.
Hm... Battle of Vienna or Battle of Klushino should do the trick easily, or Battle of Bzura. Just remember that when it comes to Russian historians (I'm referring mostly to battle of klushino here) are far from being unbiased. If you need any help with sources, just let me know via priv :)
P.S. Try to put word "Poland" in the title or at least in the description. That should make the algorithm to show your video to Poles. Unfortunately word "Polish" doesn't do the trick.
P.S. 2 Did you saw "The Unconquered" video on youtube?
We will probably remake Grunwald, as graphics on that video are outdated. Love the Battle of Warsaw and eventually will do a video on it. :-) Yeah, Vienna and Klushino are planned. I will tell you when I start working on those.
Thanks for the advice, I changed the titles and descriptions a little bit.
OMG, THAT VIDEO GAVE ME CHILLS! I mean Sean Bean is great, but with a Polish history on top of that, it becomes majestic! I remember that I created like a little girl when I first read about the Warsaw uprising of 1944. One of the worst things USSR ever did. Maybe, I need to make a video on that. Is this movie in production right now?
Been here since long before 1000 subs if i remember correctly, i'm glad that you're finally growing at a fast pace!
+Emil Johansson yes, you were here when we were a Let's Play channel and you suffered through that. :-) Thanks for your support!
Once again I cannot overstate how much I enjoy your channel. Keep up the great work and thank you!
This channel will be one of the top 10 best channels on youtube that talks about history . good luck I will support you ❤️
Hope so! Thanks for your support. :-)
Another interesting topic that you can ellaborate and many are unaware of is the Celtic invasion of Greece in the 3rd century BC.
It is on the docket - will probably cover it after the main Diadochi conflicts. :-)
Keep it up you are doing great.
Thank you!
There is a village called Kokkalia close to my city in Greece which means bones, it is said you can still find bones there from the Gul warriors!
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"If Crœsus attacks the persian empire, he will destroy a great empire" ~ the Oracle of Delphi
At the end his own empire was conquered by Persia
@@donttakeitpersonal8704 this is exactly what the prophecy stated
This is the most decisive and important battle in military history. Not just "one of". After the killing of the King of Sparta and the burning of Athens, the Greeks were in dire straits. Compounded with the fact that the Thebans had been medized and the Thracian colonies remained loyal to Xerxes, this could have easily led to the extinction of the Hellenic people. Moreover, Xerxes could have used his invasion as the land-bridge to the rest of Europe. The very fact that we have our culture and systems of government directly stem from this battle and ensured that the Spartans at Thermopylae had not died in vain. This was the first victory of the Greeks in this invasion and the subsequent victories at Plataea and Mycale were just its aftershocks. The victory at the Battle of Salamis is indeed the greatest achievement of the Greek people, which is saying a great deal because of all the other great contributions of Greece in science, philosophy, governance, historiography and exploration.
Yeah, this is nothing compared to the combined achievements of Greece as a whole.
Plenty of people of been on losing side, and some have even came back and won. The Lepur King Baldwin IV is a example, his forces were usually outnumbered but with thought he came out on top.
The 300 staying and granting time was one of the deciding factors, giving his allies a chance rebuild their forces and think of ways to defeat Xerxes.
Greece as a whole, with its science and philosophy has changed the whole world, not just one area.
And I dont think this would lead to the Hellenic peoples extinction. It seemed like Xerxes intended to keep the established civilizations in tact, Athens was just a example.
(Thank goodness Alexander got them back 100+ years later)
However I'm a "stinky american who's knowledge only extends so far, and I would love to be corrected if wrong as the Hellenic lore amazes me
Respect to Greece from Bulgaria.
lol no i just sometimes like to troll them :D but i'm not serious i just playing around
As a Persian, I undestad we have had a long history ... but I have to confess the ancient Greek civilization is much more sohpisticated by all means.
Respect and hope for re-union of these ancient powers .
This channel deserves the Best Channel award for their hard work and the dedication. Love every one of your videos. Learnt way more than I ever did in two days because of your videos.❤❤❤❤
Great video again, i see u upload i run! i suggest you make one of the battle of Preveza 1538 , great navy battle
Thanks for being with us. :-)
Will think about it. :-)
Thank you so much for uploading such videos. Am really grateful! Please keep uploading:) i love them
Will do :-)
Good work! Congratulations!
Thank you! :-) Please, share the video, if you have a chance. :-)
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I'm from IRAN. I wish there were no such ugly human behaviors in the civilization record of these two ancient and beautiful lands. Damn wars due to ugly human traits such as sedition, lies, jealousy and of course lack of anger control, not usually among nations but more among politicians and rulers. There may always be a seemingly good reason for war and fighting, but there are dozens of better reasons for agreement and peace. Also, although it is said that the reason for these wars was the sedition of the Greeks themselves (I'm not sure), but in any case it should not be forgotten that unfortunately the essence of any empire (Achaemenid empire and all world empires, from the past to the present) is tied to war and fight. Unfortunately.
Glad to see your subscriber count growing by leaps and bounds. Keep up the good work, you're my new favorite channel for history videos, you release so many consistently and with high quality. Will continue to recommend you to my fellow history appreciators
Thank you, my friend. We are working very hard to keep up with the weekly schedule with consistent quality.
+Aleksandar Djordjevic thanks for getting it. Whenever we are going to feel that quality has decreased, we will take a break. :-)
reading about peloponnesian and corrinthian wars taught me a lot about greek history . such a rich culture .
I only discovered this channel today but I'm already addicted and have started watching all videos on the channel.
Welcome to the channel and thank you very much. :-) Consider sharing our videos. :-)
I only just now found this channel, wish I found it sooner! On the plus side I have many videos to watch to catch up!!
+Sharp Tear welcome! Same here, we would have liked for you to find our channel earlier. :-)
Thanks! :D
I love how the Greeks and the Persians were having a massive and intense war that went back and forth over and over again and caused a lot of damage to both sides, but then Alexander the Great just goes and conquers all of Persia
Alexander was able to remain the king of Iran for only seven years ... If you look at history a little fairly, you would also consider the situation in Iran during the reign of Darius III in Alexander's historical victory ... Undoubtedly, the Iranians were the cause of most of Iran's defeats It happened inside the country.
alexander was defeated by the Persians, making Darius III win. The Persians always win. Iran won.
@@saeedvazirian1620 i thought he died of sickness
@@saeedvazirian1620 how did Iran win you became Greek slaves for 200 years under Greek Kings. Your army was shattered by Alexander then the Greeks had fun with ur woman and you never got ur revenge and set foot in the heart of Greece.
Then Iranian parthians removed greeks from the map greeks never ruled after seluicid for 2000 years lol
I was reading comments and see people do compare that era with today's society. Come on people it was almost 2500 years ago. Of course, Greek democracy was not improved as it is today. Of course, Persian empire was not as religiously tolerant and human right advocate as some claim. However, they both make the grounds ready for today's developement.
+Arman Kamalzadeh ^
Just cut off the power supply & it'll start looking like 2500 years ago remarkably quickly.
Many people project the modern world onto the ancient one and the Hollywood is a big offender in this regard. Unfortunately, these projections obscure the motivations and reasoning of the ancient peoples (and rulers). Some things then appear nonsensical and are hard to understand. A feudal lord switching sides in a middle of a battle isn't a "traitor" (in the sense treason is understood nowadays...he's still a backstabbing bastard). That makes no sense prior to the emergence of the nation state and nationalism. Feudal lords do not care about the "motherland" or whatever, they care about their own fiefdoms. Their subjects care about their own smaller ones and the peasants care very little who the lord is as long as taxes are low and as long as they are protected from raids. Ancient empires were a bit different in that they did not run on a feudal basis (which is probably also why they often both gained lands and were conquered so quickly) but nobody was a Persian or Macedonian "patriot" and apart from some actual Romans from the city of Rome itself, nobody was a Roman patriot either.
It seems that you got things the other way around.
"Democracy" today is Not as Improved as it was in Ancient Athens.
Today's so called "Democracy", (which is No Democracy at All), is just a shadow of what the real Democracy was
in Ancient Athens.
Vagelis 4VP: You can't possibly have an assembly of all citizens decide everything if your population is in millions. Switzerland (with their high degree of decentralization and many referenda) is probably the closest you can get to that in the modern setting. Also, note that unlike today in the Greek city states all women and poor men did not have right to vote. And of course not all city states were democracies, some, like Sparta, were monarchies.
Keep up the good work, this is now my favourite channel.
Thank you, my friend!
love live greece.!!!
I am a big fanboy :-)
mashrure tanzim so will be for Islam
Cyrus King They are greek - fanboys, you can't expect them to be educated. The Persians shat on the greek in most battles, the only reasons the greek stood a slight chance was because of internal trouble in the Persian Empire.
TRUE GREEK WARRIOR 18 byzantines got buttfucked by the Sassanids.
roxana Irani they really didn't, look at the records, the Byzantines had superior forces and superior wealth, as they traded and produced huge amounts of resources, while the sassanids had to keep civil strife at bay
Just had a test involving this battle the day after. This vid really helped me!
Really happy to hear that! :-) Hopefully, you shared the video with your class. :-)
I don’t hate Greece! From Persia 🇮🇷
What is left out of this video is documenting the genius of Themistocles.
It was he that insisted in Athens spending vast monies in creating a large fleet of triremes, which were fast sleek vessels that acted as high speed battling rams in sinking the wider, slower Persian ships. Each ship could destroy several vessels in a battle.
It was he who planted disinformation by having double agents who gave the Persian commanders the wrong information before the battle of Salamis. The Persians were incorrectly informed that the Greeks were arguing with each other and would not provide a fight when confronted by the Persian fleet. They were in for a real surprise.
It was he who provided the overall Greek naval strategy that forced Xerxes and most of his army to leave Greece as without ships, they could not be supplied with food, reinforcements and weapons. Only a small force was left behind and were easily defeated.
For his brilliance and leadership, he was banished later from Athens.
I am a INDIAN .I love greek history
Your videos are fantastic! Love this channel!
Thank you!
Ver very good job but you did not mention the fact that in the battle of thermopylae the greek army was betrayed by a fellow greek called ephialtes. It was a crucial turning point since the persians did not know the terrain and ephialtes gave them this knowledge. You have done a wonderful video
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As far as i know, there was an Athenean working as an advisor for Xerxes. He secretly met Themistocles and agreed to persuade Xerxes to attack, hence forcing the Greek fleet in to a battle. Themistocles did not inform the other generals about this until it wad done and over, thing that enraged the Spartan general that objected to such strategy. It always impressed me that Themistocles embraced the Athenean that was considered a traitor and was able to see past the "traitor" label and recognize a man that ultimately could not bring it to his heart to help the Persians win.
Themistocles send a slave that he had to inform the king that the Greeks are ready to flee and that he has to make a battle. That forced Xerxes to attack thenistocles later died in Persia and even if Xerxes lost many battles cause of him he didn't kill him he made him a government of an area later he had to attack to Athens but he couldn't and he killed himself. That's the story of Themistocles.
@@vasileiospapazoglou2362 1 correction, it was Artaxerxes who made him governor of Magnesia. Artaxerxes didnt even know who Themistocles was, so Themistocles told him that he always protected Persia and that he made sure that the bridge not was destroyed because of him.
After xerexos, Ardeshir 1 known as long hand, and Darius ll, payed 30.000 gold coins to the spartan and peloponnese wars started (431-404 BC). Athens destroyed by spartan troops + Persian golds, and all lands which had separated from Persia, returned. Now after 2500 years Iran & Greece are good friends 💙💙💙
Artaxerex I and Darius II were doing well 😁 love them
I from iran and i love greece. ..we was kings ....and new we are best
Oh my god, this is heaven, 2 videos!
Thanks for your interest. :-)
Such an interesting and informative video! It is a pity that it is not among the leaders of this channel...
They didnt have a clue how macedonia would retaliate
I mean, this battle was 150 years before Alexander’s conquests, so they really couldn’t have known.
at the time Macedonia was actually a tributary state to Persia. Alexander I (not the famous one) even sent a herald on behalf of the Persians to Themistocles, before Xerxes sent actual Persians to Athens and Sparta.
alexander came from previous persian land, so soldier bron bastard of a sort
Alexander and makedonia is Greek (ancient makedonia land is still in Greece), you are vardaska and always have been
This channel should have a billion subscribers.
Thank you. :-)
And Xerxes had to watch it all from a distance. imagine how he felt...
Its said he stood up from his chair a few time in disbelief lol
I happen to live close to wear Xerxes actually seated,and I can say that Fromm wear he stood he had an amazing view.
@@nickpaschentis5284 according to legend they said penis hanging was really going up and down from a sitting rock reaching a better view, but just when sometihing funny happeend, like own troops getting pennis removed from hella swing
He felt like shit I'm from iran by the way
He probably looked like my Dad when his favorite Football team is losing against the weakest team in the league
Love your series keep up the great work :D
Thanks, will do! :-)
After that here comes the Great Greek empire Macedonian empire Byzantium:hold my bear
I like your historical videos .. they are masterpieces! perfect narration and flawless pictures...short videos which don't make you be bored... keep uploading... and a good idea would be videos about ancient history
Bravo, good jobs!
You keep doing better and better with each clip. Looking forward to something on Hannibal Barca and his conquest against Rome soon. Bless you.
Glossing over all the countless battles in the Persian wars (especially Thermopylae & Marathon) so quickly is something K&G would never do nowadays. There is some much potential here for a whole series. I think it could easily be the most epic documentary that K&G has made thus far🙏🙏🙏
It's hard to overstate the importance of the Greeks but you still managed it
I thought the Persian empire was relatively tame and accepting as far as empires are concerned.
It was, but the Greeks never lived under a big state and were not used to paying taxes to the satraps, no matter how much autonomy they were allowed.
To be fair, in this day and age we are the same. We would probably take down people proclaiming themselves as kings even if they could be a better alternative than the corrupt democracies we live in.
Greeks kept threatening the Persian empire so it had to be conquered or it would bounce back (Alexander eventually conquered the empire). The first Persian empire was very tolerable of religion and culture so the Greeks could've still been greeks
Taylan Safak we are not erased at all come and get them
Fuzzy Dunlop the Persian empire was the only empire at the time to not have slavery come into place.... And Cyrus the great.... The first king of the persian empire was the first ever man to mention the idea of human rights..... (he wrote down his human rights ideas on a stone object.... You can search it up).... Human rights.... And idea that many countries have not embraced after 2500 years since the reign of Cyrus the great..
Good timing, this exact subject was in todays history lesson in school :D
As a Greek I have to say you did a pretty good job here. Very informative video. Keep up the good work, bravo. Εύγε! In Greek
Damn! Zeus coming through with the storms! Seriously though, luck is always a factor in battles. Love this channel btw.
Well, the locals always know the winds and currents better. :-) Thank you!
Proud to be 1% Greek
Stephan Mohr 😂😂😂
Proud to be 50% Persian 20% Arab 10% Turkish 10% Caucasian 5% Turks 4% Greek 1% Russian
@@xananymous431 proud 0.1 greek but 99% amerindian
º ºº proud to be 0.0001 Asian
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You make a good salad!
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Took a little time today off from work to get a few things done and I can't stop watching Kings and General! Great stuff!
Hopefully, it was worth it. :-)
Kings and Generals Always, not like Im not at least learning.
:-)
Around 7:55 or 8:00 you say “east winds” should it be “west winds” or am I misunderstanding something about horizontal sail ships, which I very well could be. Nbd anyways, but I’m curious
Yep. Our mistake
When a kingdoms win against invaders , they turn on each other only for the power !! Human are so great !! A incredible video Keep Going on
Love to Greece from Persia!.
Old enemies but new friends
against turks and arabs and jews
Not really old enemies either tbh. Their _first_ interaction is through war, but after that the two become pretty integrated with each other through cultural exchange/intermarraige etc. culminating in the formation of the various Greco-Persian states throughout the region.
This is the best history channel in the world
+Jamie Toth thank you! :-)
Would you consider to cover the Mongol invasion of java?
We will cover Mongol Invasions in general, just need to decide how deep we should go.
It is intersting how contemporary Persians (Iranians) and Greeks appreciate each other.
Maso there is respect that is mutual due to both countries thousands years of existence. Other than that they are both warm cultures that have things in mentality that are in common for example the family institution that is sacred in both countries.
I am Persian . We love Greek people every time
oh man the song at the end is sure inspired by in the house in a heartbeat
I love Cyrus the great & Alexander the Great
This is an excellent channel. It displays excellence.
Awesome 😄
Thanks :-)
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When I hear the drums, I get hyped!
Please make a Video about Alexander the Great and his conquest.
Other UA-camrs already recreated the battles of Alexander, but we will do something better. In 2018. :-)