Hey question…choosing the same hero 4x like a Jesse matters? I’m curious to know if it stacks or is it better to mix and match with other heroes..thanks for answering in advance
Hey man, We have run countless test on this and YES they do STACK! Some people believe that it’s better to mix and match but there is no proof and solid foundation on that😂
Hello Thx for the video 👍 what is the importance of equipment and heroes 2 and 3 when joining a rally? only skill 1 counts? or do the stats of all the heroes provide a bonus?
The stats of the other Heroes do not provide any bonus to the Rally. However I recommend using some other ssr heroes in slot 2 & 3 when joining a rally. ONLY the top right skill of the first Hero in your party counts for rally joiners.
@@Itz.Miyagithank you for the information, it is important in order to be able to prioritize the increases, for example only increasing the heroes to 4 stars to join before increasing them to 5 since the 1 will already be at the maximum, or not to advance their equipment and focus on SSR
A great video with extensive explanation, l have a question, l don't usually upgrade rally leader widgets so is your guide to choose offensive and defensive rally leaders work without widgets?
Hi, I have an off topic question. Please answer😕it was bothering me for a while..If an alliance holds a sunfire and has a president.. If 2nd time that alliance gets the sunfire again.. Will it be the same
Hi, yea the it doesn’t matter how many times an alliance wins the sunfire they will always get presidency. There’s so cap on the amount of times one alliance can get presidency whoever wins gets the presidency
My state uses the same rally joiners. My question is once Gen 5 is released is the recommendation still the same? Because Gwen and Norah first expedition skill is not a chance skill.
Hi Miyagi. Great video, now I understand more clearly what should i use as a rally participant. But, i have 1 more question: as an f2p player, who has heroes available only from 2nd generation currently, which heroes should i use for solo attacking? Thanks in advance for your response!
Hey Man, so for f2p I suggest always saving your gems and going for the lucky wheel hero. Other then that it is hard to get any good heroes as a F2P until Gen 4 when the gina events gets swapped for philly. So for attacking I suggest using the „joiner heroes“ jessie and plus whoever is your strongest. Defense Sergei + whoever is the strongest
Hi. Great Video. I‘m pretty new in this game and I wonder how you guys know that Patricks defense skill is working in Garrison… is there any report or proof that this works? Because I dont find any proof for it.
@@ricohurner3837You can see which Bonus was used in the Battle Details and when you call a rally u see it on the rally screen. Are you questioning the foundation of the game mechanics? If so I can tell you after 1 1/2 years that bonus scores on garrison works🤣
this formation 50/20/30 is def or off? or both ? also if i don't have much SSR hero as im low/mid spender (dont have natalia/jeronimo or alonso) which hero i should use ? or should i never be rally leader?
Hey man, So I would suggest focusing on your troop levels if you are a low/mid spender this way you can ensure the troop average will always be high. If you can’t spend the amount needed on good heroes gear chief charms gear and the whole nine yards let someone else do that job😝 Trust me it’s hella expensive😂 In terms of the formation we use this formation for both offense and defense! This is because we prioritize Infantry but I will make a separate video explaining this gem we got going on as well😎
@@Itz.Miyagi yeah, i saw few vids of whales from other states :D my wife would kill me if i would spend so much on a mobile game :D I do have decent hero gear, chief gear and charms but nothing crazy. I maxed out bahiti, finishing Flint, Molly, Sergey and Patrick. Got Philly on 3star only. we dont have gen3 yet but when we do i will get Mia from Lucky wheel and maybe i will push for Greg as he is decent marksman i heard. And advice on how to play further? Would appreciate any tips ;)
@@robaczep So I would suggest going for Logan rather then greg. He’s better and gen 4 lynn is much better and she’s lucky wheel. Also don’t focus on philly that much he will become free to play when gen 4 drops! So try this when u have gen 3 Offense: Jero,Molly or Mia,Alo Defense: Logan,Mia or Molly, Alo Your offense will be your strong point. But I also would suggest try to keep your troops on the highest FC average possible your mega whales will thank you and you will always be a strong rally joiner when fighting for sunfire etc.
@@Itz.Miyagi thanks for advices. The issue is i dont have Jero (Jeronimo?). And also i dont have Alonso :D My best chars right now are Flint, Sergey, Molly, Bahiti, Patrick. Working on Jessie. Philly is only 3star, Zimann is 3star 2tier. So on next gen, which will be gen 3, i should get Mia from Lucky Wheel and try to get Logan, right ?(to replace Sergey) Should i try to get Alonso right now? I just hit F30, upgrading everything now starting with camps. Already have over 1k FC so FC1 shouldn't be an issue, waiting for good event like preparation to SVS to push it :D
Good morning, some on my server are starting to say that the equipment components are active when we JOIN a rally, is it therefore possible for skill 1 to also be added to the hero's special equipment skill?
A question. Our state has only gen 2 heroes now, and I’m thinking whether I should get Alonso or Greg (need to wait). I’m thinking to use Jeroni (4.3 star), Mia, and either Alonso or Greg. Do you have a suggestion? I’m not gonna be a rally captain for the castle but definitely can take a turret.
okay so seeing as you have jero almost max I suggest you go for all the new gen heroes at all times. (This is if ur willing to spend the money of course). Jeronimo will be used even with Gen 3 as an attacking Hero and we even use him until this day for Bear! (There’s a Reason he’s so expensive😂). I suggest to max Alonso if he’s not expensive. The Reason for that is because he’s an amazing Attack Hero and we also use him in Bear until this day. But keep in mind the new gen heroes are slays stronger then the old ones! So as a spender getting the new gen heroes maxed should always be a priority. Also the older gen heroes get cheaper the older they get through events like hall of heroes. If you don’t have a Server Timeline check it out on the official WOS discord. There you can check when exactly the new gen comes to your server. Start saving for KOI/SvS ahead of time to make sure you can get a high placement. Save your general shards and use them on the Hero from each gen u think is gonna be the most useful. (Gen 3 It’s definitely Logan) (Gen 4 is Ahmose) etc.pp If you have any questions throughout you can message me in game or on Discord at all times💪🏻😎 My discord is: Mr.Miyagi2
So just to get it right, only the widget of the first hero of the rally starter is ever applied. So the widgets of the other two heroes are useless? And if so, dies this apply only to the ability of the widget or also to the base stats of the widgets??
No you are talking about joiners only the top right skill of the first hero from a joiner will matter. For rally starters all skills and widgets matter
@@Itz.Miyagi No I was talking about the starter. So the order of the heroes doesn't matter at all? And why is there a little flag Symbol on the first hero when starting a rally.
Hello, when we attack we join rally with Jessie. But if we get victory we need to swap jessie with patrick or surgey. What is the best way to swap heroes in garrion?
There’s two ways to do it: 1. Withdraw your troops from the garrison and then send your new march in. 2. Have pre-saved formations ready for both offense and defense send the one you want to switch too out and take out the one you had inside with for example jessie this way you is much more effective and efficient💪🏻
There is another question in these comments about this. It does not matter. The Bonus Score meaning all the Gears and % are always taken by the Rally Leader or the strongest player in the garrison.
@@japsk8er3 no worries if u have any more questions the discord is also always open and there’s not only me in there but out R4’s and by now a lot of knowledgeable viewers!
Does system select 4 members only right behind rally leader or it selects 4 highest-ranked skill heroes of any members? Thanks. How is it in garrison please?
As explained in the Video the System will prioritize in this Order: First 4 Joiners If no Heroes or not maxed skills Next Joiner Hero with higher level skill In garrison you can swap the rally leader until the four of you designated Heroes are the first for below the Hero Leader.
@@petermitterpak7870 Trail and error. We’ve been playing for over half a year now and are the strongest alliance power wise and strategically in our server range. We’ve been training and testing formations, correct upgrade strategies and Hero selection since 2 weeks into the game and continue to do so consistently! Our statistics speak for themselves. Also with this game u won’t find anything official best is to find a trusted source try our way and you’ll thank me later. The onboarding will just take a bit of time.
@@electrovulcon57for this you COULD be very strategically and try to enhance your Rally Leaders strongest stats either Health w. Patrick or Defense w. Sergey. Both are equally as good if you want to take the easy route tho
Hey, Beat Trap Formation is a lot different! Since Only marksman are the main damage unit nearly 0 Infantry gets used. But the Hero selection and joiners are based on offense yes!
It really comes down to, and this is sad tbh, the spending potential of the other players. I did not know my state was gonna be good when I started spending. I think a solid foundation is peace and having a friendly competition as well as a minimum of 3 strong alliances.
Great Question: We prioritize (as do nearly all players) infantry stats over everything else meaning all our infantry stats are complimented by our formation. Furthermore your infantry ist your first and last line of defense: The longer they stay alive the more time your marksman have to kill off troops. Meaning the more infantry you have with good stats the better your chances are to win a fight. If you have really good infantry stats you can even use 60/10/30❤️
CORRECTION‼️ GREG IS A DEFENDER HERO FOR RALLY STARTERS NOT A OFFENSE AND DEFENSE❤️ Sorry for the mixup😎
Great video, explained it really well, thanks
You the man DraGxoN! Thanks for stopping by during the Livestream!
Thank you
You're welcome
Thanks for the information.
Any time!
Hey question…choosing the same hero 4x like a Jesse matters? I’m curious to know if it stacks or is it better to mix and match with other heroes..thanks for answering in advance
Hey man, We have run countless test on this and YES they do STACK! Some people believe that it’s better to mix and match but there is no proof and solid foundation on that😂
Hello
Thx for the video 👍
what is the importance of equipment and heroes 2 and 3 when joining a rally?
only skill 1 counts? or do the stats of all the heroes provide a bonus?
The stats of the other Heroes do not provide any bonus to the Rally. However I recommend using some other ssr heroes in slot 2 & 3 when joining a rally. ONLY the top right skill of the first Hero in your party counts for rally joiners.
@@Itz.Miyagithank you for the information, it is important in order to be able to prioritize the increases, for example only increasing the heroes to 4 stars to join before increasing them to 5 since the 1 will already be at the maximum, or not to advance their equipment and focus on SSR
How about the Widget for slot 2&3 SSR Joiner Heroes? Do these also count for the bonus stats?
@@midnightempath1103 Not in a rally no not for joiners💪🏻😎
@@Itz.MiyagiThank you! #725
A great video with extensive explanation, l have a question, l don't usually upgrade rally leader widgets so is your guide to choose offensive and defensive rally leaders work without widgets?
Thank you so much!😎❤️
Widgets is a essential part of a heroes strength. I cannot suggest being a rally leader without leveling your widgets.
Hi, I have an off topic question. Please answer😕it was bothering me for a while..If an alliance holds a sunfire and has a president.. If 2nd time that alliance gets the sunfire again.. Will it be the same
Hi, yea the it doesn’t matter how many times an alliance wins the sunfire they will always get presidency. There’s so cap on the amount of times one alliance can get presidency whoever wins gets the presidency
Clear and concise video! Can you make a video of analyzing reports?
Of course will be coming up next!
Thank you all
Thank you!
My state uses the same rally joiners. My question is once Gen 5 is released is the recommendation still the same? Because Gwen and Norah first expedition skill is not a chance skill.
Gwen and Norah are amazin joiners
Hi Miyagi. Great video, now I understand more clearly what should i use as a rally participant.
But, i have 1 more question: as an f2p player, who has heroes available only from 2nd generation currently, which heroes should i use for solo attacking? Thanks in advance for your response!
Hey Man, so for f2p I suggest always saving your gems and going for the lucky wheel hero. Other then that it is hard to get any good heroes as a F2P until Gen 4 when the gina events gets swapped for philly. So for attacking I suggest using the „joiner heroes“ jessie and plus whoever is your strongest. Defense Sergei + whoever is the strongest
Hi. Great Video. I‘m pretty new in this game and I wonder how you guys know that Patricks defense skill is working in Garrison… is there any report or proof that this works? Because I dont find any proof for it.
Battle details show them all
@@Itz.Miyagibut where? In a defense Rally… where do I see Patricks „health up“?
@@ricohurner3837You can see which Bonus was used in the Battle Details and when you call a rally u see it on the rally screen.
Are you questioning the foundation of the game mechanics? If so I can tell you after 1 1/2 years that bonus scores on garrison works🤣
lol I‘m not questioning it, i just wonder where I can see it because I dont see it on a battle report. Can you show me on discord for example?
this formation 50/20/30 is def or off? or both ?
also if i don't have much SSR hero as im low/mid spender (dont have natalia/jeronimo or alonso) which hero i should use ? or should i never be rally leader?
Hey man, So I would suggest focusing on your troop levels if you are a low/mid spender this way you can ensure the troop average will always be high. If you can’t spend the amount needed on good heroes gear chief charms gear and the whole nine yards let someone else do that job😝 Trust me it’s hella expensive😂
In terms of the formation we use this formation for both offense and defense! This is because we prioritize Infantry but I will make a separate video explaining this gem we got going on as well😎
@@Itz.Miyagi yeah, i saw few vids of whales from other states :D my wife would kill me if i would spend so much on a mobile game :D I do have decent hero gear, chief gear and charms but nothing crazy.
I maxed out bahiti, finishing Flint, Molly, Sergey and Patrick. Got Philly on 3star only.
we dont have gen3 yet but when we do i will get Mia from Lucky wheel and maybe i will push for Greg as he is decent marksman i heard.
And advice on how to play further? Would appreciate any tips ;)
@@robaczep So I would suggest going for Logan rather then greg. He’s better and gen 4 lynn is much better and she’s lucky wheel. Also don’t focus on philly that much he will become free to play when gen 4 drops! So try this when u have gen 3
Offense: Jero,Molly or Mia,Alo
Defense: Logan,Mia or Molly, Alo
Your offense will be your strong point.
But I also would suggest try to keep your troops on the highest FC average possible your mega whales will thank you and you will always be a strong rally joiner when fighting for sunfire etc.
@@Itz.Miyagi thanks for advices.
The issue is i dont have Jero (Jeronimo?). And also i dont have Alonso :D
My best chars right now are Flint, Sergey, Molly, Bahiti, Patrick.
Working on Jessie.
Philly is only 3star, Zimann is 3star 2tier.
So on next gen, which will be gen 3, i should get Mia from Lucky Wheel and try to get Logan, right ?(to replace Sergey)
Should i try to get Alonso right now?
I just hit F30, upgrading everything now starting with camps. Already have over 1k FC so FC1 shouldn't be an issue, waiting for good event like preparation to SVS to push it :D
Good morning,
some on my server are starting to say that the equipment components are active when we JOIN a rally, is it therefore possible for skill 1 to also be added to the hero's special equipment skill?
Hi, the equipment components do not matter for joiners. Only for Bear Trap!
thank you for your answer, I didn't see it posted, you confirm what I thought. for the bear it's a good tip to know
A question. Our state has only gen 2 heroes now, and I’m thinking whether I should get Alonso or Greg (need to wait). I’m thinking to use Jeroni (4.3 star), Mia, and either Alonso or Greg. Do you have a suggestion? I’m not gonna be a rally captain for the castle but definitely can take a turret.
okay so seeing as you have jero almost max I suggest you go for all the new gen heroes at all times. (This is if ur willing to spend the money of course). Jeronimo will be used even with Gen 3 as an attacking Hero and we even use him until this day for Bear! (There’s a Reason he’s so expensive😂).
I suggest to max Alonso if he’s not expensive. The Reason for that is because he’s an amazing Attack Hero and we also use him in Bear until this day.
But keep in mind the new gen heroes are slays stronger then the old ones! So as a spender getting the new gen heroes maxed should always be a priority. Also the older gen heroes get cheaper the older they get through events like hall of heroes.
If you don’t have a Server Timeline check it out on the official WOS discord. There you can check when exactly the new gen comes to your server. Start saving for KOI/SvS ahead of time to make sure you can get a high placement. Save your general shards and use them on the Hero from each gen u think is gonna be the most useful. (Gen 3 It’s definitely Logan) (Gen 4 is Ahmose) etc.pp
If you have any questions throughout you can message me in game or on Discord at all times💪🏻😎
My discord is: Mr.Miyagi2
@@Itz.Miyagi thanks a lot for your detailed answer!!
@@ccccl4269 Anytime my friend💪😎
So just to get it right, only the widget of the first hero of the rally starter is ever applied. So the widgets of the other two heroes are useless? And if so, dies this apply only to the ability of the widget or also to the base stats of the widgets??
No you are talking about joiners only the top right skill of the first hero from a joiner will matter. For rally starters all skills and widgets matter
@@Itz.Miyagi No I was talking about the starter. So the order of the heroes doesn't matter at all? And why is there a little flag Symbol on the first hero when starting a rally.
I from 195 we had SvS awhile ago
Great Vid 👋
Hello, when we attack we join rally with Jessie. But if we get victory we need to swap jessie with patrick or surgey. What is the best way to swap heroes in garrion?
There’s two ways to do it:
1. Withdraw your troops from the garrison and then send your new march in.
2. Have pre-saved formations ready for both offense and defense send the one you want to switch too out and take out the one you had inside with for example jessie this way you is much more effective and efficient💪🏻
Summoning salt music. Always good 👍
you know the way bro!😎
could you please address whether or not rally member "gear" matters or not? Every video online skips this mention.
There is another question in these comments about this. It does not matter. The Bonus Score meaning all the Gears and % are always taken by the Rally Leader or the strongest player in the garrison.
@ItzMrMiyagi I noticed after replying. thanks for your time though!
@@japsk8er3 no worries if u have any more questions the discord is also always open and there’s not only me in there but out R4’s and by now a lot of knowledgeable viewers!
Does system select 4 members only right behind rally leader or it selects 4 highest-ranked skill heroes of any members? Thanks. How is it in garrison please?
As explained in the Video the System will prioritize in this Order:
First 4 Joiners
If no Heroes or not maxed skills
Next Joiner Hero with higher level skill
In garrison you can swap the rally leader until the four of you designated Heroes are the first for below the Hero Leader.
so it means it is important who joins rally leader first second third? in which order @@Itz.Miyagi ok so garrison is mostly about manual managing
@@petermitterpak7870 exactly the order in what people join is important and for garrison it is a lot about manual labor😎
and how do you know it mate? I couldnt find any official source... is it 100% like that?@@Itz.Miyagi
@@petermitterpak7870 Trail and error. We’ve been playing for over half a year now and are the strongest alliance power wise and strategically in our server range. We’ve been training and testing formations, correct upgrade strategies and Hero selection since 2 weeks into the game and continue to do so consistently! Our statistics speak for themselves.
Also with this game u won’t find anything official best is to find a trusted source try our way and you’ll thank me later. The onboarding will just take a bit of time.
Why is Molly a defensive hero when she's got offensive expedition skills?
Did you check her widget?
@Itz.Miyagi I think the question was why?
What about Patrick for defence??
decent joiner
Nice job. Make more
Yessir! Will do!
if the joiners are all jessie, does her buff stock up?
yes they all stack!
Excelente video 🎉, participarás en atacando ciudad es en el SVS?
Podrías mostrar como lo haces?
Saludos
Claro que sí!
is flint decent for rally joiners as well?
No not really since his top right skill is a chance skill so it doesn’t guarantee a boost
@@Itz.Miyagi ok thank you, for rally joiners would you say he is better for attack or defense?
@@Itz.Miyagi also assuming my sergery and patrick are both max, who would be better to send as a rally joiner for garrison?
@@electrovulcon57for this you COULD be very strategically and try to enhance your Rally Leaders strongest stats either Health w. Patrick or Defense w. Sergey. Both are equally as good if you want to take the easy route tho
If i join a rally of someone weaker then me will my personnal stats apply to damage i will do ?
And if im joining a rally does only captain buff selected will be effective or my 3 heroes buff will be effective for my damage
No so this is not like a garrison for example in a rally the stats whoever initiated it are taken
Only the captain buff will be active plus the 4 leading hero from the first 4 joiners (leading hero -> Hero in first slot)
is it that the same formation for bear trap?
Hey, Beat Trap Formation is a lot different! Since Only marksman are the main damage unit nearly 0 Infantry gets used. But the Hero selection and joiners are based on offense yes!
Can you tell me how you might know that a state will be successful. Before I blow more money. Thanks. State 753 HusH furnance
It really comes down to, and this is sad tbh, the spending potential of the other players. I did not know my state was gonna be good when I started spending. I think a solid foundation is peace and having a friendly competition as well as a minimum of 3 strong alliances.
My game nick SANTA from 214# , this video like❤❤❤
rally members skills stack ?
like we use 4 jessie
Yes they do stack it can be 4x jessie jasser or anyone else of that matter
Nice ..
SVS. 205 vs 204
Im from 204
Greg is an attack hero, his special wepon does nothing when defending
Like mentioned in the pinned comment
Should make More videos
Today SVS so will be video?
I will stream SvS today starting at 12 UTC😎💪🏻
Here on UA-cam
Ok thanks
Why 50 20 30?
Great Question: We prioritize (as do nearly all players) infantry stats over everything else meaning all our infantry stats are complimented by our formation.
Furthermore your infantry ist your first and last line of defense: The longer they stay alive the more time your marksman have to kill off troops. Meaning the more infantry you have with good stats the better your chances are to win a fight.
If you have really good infantry stats you can even use 60/10/30❤️
Thanks
-GhoAst state 322
How is the defensive buff that Patrick gives beter then the one ahmos gives for joining I don't understand that
Ahmose buff is a turn based Buff that is not guaranteed!