Me too! I love that various channels and companies are working together more as well. I've been saying since Dropout started that they should work out deals with all these channels to be the streaming home for uncensored and behind the scenes content and VODs. Imagine Mythical, Smosh, Pressalike, Dropout, all having one streaming home outside of just UA-cam
@@alexf0723that’s something i don’t see people bring up but i agree with. i really hope that anthony ups the videos about serious topics as time passes. i love all the creators and smosh members being on but we’re about to be under one of the worst presidencies and his channel could help bring a lot of awareness. it really worries me that he hasn’t dont an “i spent a day with” with any minority group or made fun of group for literally over a year
That's kind of how fears of the dark work. Yea there's the thing of "I'm alone in the dark and I can't see anything" which is unsettling, but there's the additional layer of "well... maybe I'm _not_ alone. Maybe something's out there... and maybe it's watching me"
The problem is that as soon as you introduce a creature into the space, the fear of being alone completely dissipates. The "terror" can't go both ways. The Backrooms only has the second type of horror since its inception. This is why the Backrooms isn't true liminal space horror. It's just sci fi monster horror.
@@musicwalls we experience terror in different ways. i said, "I feel the latter is more scary", not "the latter is more scary". If you think not having some sort of creature in there is scarier, i'm not gonna stop you. just don't whine about it in the comment section pls
it’s makes me so relieved to know that he has everything planned out. makes the mystery so much more rewarding to unpack in the future. (LOOKING AT YOU FNAF)
@@TacticalWaffle I disbelieve him and this was the exact example I was going to use as to why. Anyone who remembers that show remembers how evasive they were about questions in the interview. I hope Kane proves me wrong.
LOOKING AT YOU ‘WHO KILLED MARKIPLIER’!!! Seriously… Mark… will it all come to together at some point, because WE ALL want the Colonel/Worfstash to find peace, Damien his revenge, Abe his identity, the Actor his soul, and us as the viewer to get the hell out of this black mirror you have us trapped in.
@@justdropIt’s obvious they only planned the pilot and basically brainstormed the rest afterwards. Love that show but it’s mysteries provided a buildup to something that couldn’t possibly be payed off in a satisfying way.
17:36 It would be incredibly stupid of A24 to purposefully limit your Backrooms UA-cam series as it is the very thing maintaining audience interest. It takes time to make a full feature and if that meant 3 whole years of ZERO new content, the interest would dry up long before it ever would hit theatres. Good on A24 for realizing that.
Exactly. It would be completely stupid but 100% something a bigger studio would do and then wonder why all the hype for the concept died before the movie was released.
True, not only maintaining interest but also creating new as well. It's just extra, free marketing, they'd have everything to lose stopping it and nothing to gain.
@@Angivel This. Especially the Free Advertising angle. And with Kane stating that his plan is to build up to/release the movie and then CONTINUE on from said movie before finishing, not only is it free hype for the film but the film will be semi-required to fully comprehend Kane's big finale, thus forcing fans to go see it.
I mean, we know that time works weird in there. What we have seen specifically is someone going in, disappearing for a few months (outside world months) and then returned and for him it was only a very short period of time. So if thats the only way this works, the food would have to be years and years old. But I think it works more like a hub, where a lot of different times can connect, so the food could be either really old, or not even been grown or made from the point in time that you entered the backrooms @@FredbonFilms
“Probably” rotted. Things probably no clip in all the time, and time still passes there so they’d only be non-rotted for a much shorter time than they’re rotted
Maybe the Backrooms is where things that have escaped death go to die with no possible way to escape death again ??? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ And then if something living ends up there eventually the living thing must be made dead??? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Love how well spoken he is! I will absolutely be supporting everything he creates. He has such passion and skill and an eye for film. Much respect. The Oldest View series is one of my favourite things on the internet. This man deserves the praise and I’m so glad UA-cam can give people like him a platform for his art.
I love two things about this video: - Shayne adding another signature item to his wardrobe, and - the mental image I made of Kane at 10-11 years old, holding a round table type of debate with his classmates about something like Pokemon but SUPER SERIOUS
This dude speaks so well, just like a director. Reminds me of Christopher Nolan interviews. Clear, concise, thoughtful. You can feel the value he has towards his work.
31:49 No, I am CONVINCED he said "When *did* they die? What Year?" He's assuming they've been dead and the media we're seeing is their digital footprint left behind.
The Chosen is a lot more sophisticated than Kane is if imma be honest. Kane is the one who moved out his mom’s house and got a job here (using your example), and The Chosen is that who raised enough money to afford entire lifestyles for himself and others.
@@itsAriJustAriand they both should nevar be put front to back (although fun fact, that specific part of the answer got miscorrected to “never”, which made that part of it not make sense)
Quintessential jaded Gen-X'er here who has been a horror fan since I was five year-old, into "liminal spaces" before I knew it was even a thing, before 4chan and UA-cam even existed. Not unlike the character who noclips into the Backrooms in "Backrooms Found Footage" I happened upon that video and the rest of Kane's online content just this past week, and found it to be the most interesting, refreshing, engaging, and exciting new work in a long, long time. "The Oldest View" is brilliant on many layers, I loved "The Backrooms", am psyched for the feature, and look forward to checking out anything else Kane creates in the future. I'm a fan!
Liminal spaces have been a thing since the start of internet forums and I'm glad someone is making a movie on a take on them. The feeling is hard to capture in a film because something has to happen in a short amount of time and liminal spaces feel endless, slow and empty. This will probably be more horror/thriller than that liminal space feeling you get.
@@chrism45 Yeah, I had no idea. I've always been drawn to the whole liminal space aesthetic since I was a kid-consciously and subconsciously. I only learned of its online presence, and the term, recently through the release of the game POOLS. As one who has dabbled in indie filmmaking myself, I had been thinking for some time that if someone could capture that quality and atmosphere in a movie or series, and not crowd the scenes with a bunch of actors, unnecessary action, and an excessive plot, they would have something really cool and special. Then I came across "The Backrooms: Found Footage" and it was as if the movie gods had answered my prayer!
I'm not familiar with the series or the theories around it, so I might be miles off on this theory, but the way that the creator talks about the nature of The Backrooms makes me think that its space is a lot like the Newtonian theory of an apple in a box for infinity. The theory goes, if you put an apple in an unbreakable box for all of infinity, it will eventually take every possible form including the original apple. I think that the backrooms could serve as a spatially infinite alternative to that concept. If you travel far enough, instead of waiting long enough, you could find anything. Including a mall, a dog on a table, food, water, 1 ply toilet paper, 1,000 ply toilet paper, a cutout of a caveman, etcetera.
I actually ADORE Kane's art, the way he's portrayed his work is amazing. I'm not scared by it, it gives creepy vibes and I actually love it, cuz the titles, everything being as big and vague makes me want more and more and he does so well drawing in his audience. It's very like, niche though, so certain people like it.
I love how Kane is just doing the thing that I do where I just go off on quick little seemingly unrelated tangents that just confuse people unless they just get in the mindset of thinking abstractly. it's so funny to watch people squirm for a response with that
What we can garner from Kane's philosophical quesitons to "what is an x" we can interpret that the Backrooms is not a game simulation, or probably even a parallel universe like speculated, but implying that there's a spectrum between table and soup, there's some being, possibly sentient, or force, which is recreating 'reality' but is either approximating, or doesn't fully grasp the physical properties of what it is reproducing in the Backrooms. I place my theory of the Backrooms of something more akin to the Upside Down of Stranger Things, an other world connected to ours which is a reflection of sorts, but lost within other dimensions beyond our 3rd dimension where both space and time envelop in on themselves, but are manifested into our world through the threshold as the Backrooms. The creatures similarly within the Backrooms can likely be also explained as 'Soup or table' and is something (or nothing) replicating life in it's best way. Much like 'There may be food, but it would be rotten', we can probably infer the same for living beings (or at least, matter which appears sentient).
Surely it'd be 2 degrees of separation. Shane (and Anthony) are on smosh, shane did an interview with Pixels on Anthony's channel, and wendigoon interviewed him too.
Yep ' after this interview I'm sure of it. I didn't even know he was this young but I just found all of his answers so perfect and his hypotheticals were clever asf on the spot.
1:24 I actually grew up in the city this shop was in, and been there many times, and it blows my mind everytime I learn my childhood hobbytown was actually the place that inspired the backrooms.
@@noahcody2655 Oshkosh in Wisconsin, I hope phrasing it like this gets allowed by UA-cam automods. But it's in the RC track building at the local HobbyTownUSA
I love the horror idea of you driving through a tunnel and beimg transported to a new reality, or you walk down some stairs and find yourself in an infinite staircase/corridor type thing. You don't need a monster to make it scary. Just the slow breakdown of the human mind.
the fact that kane made a simple test footage on blender for shits and giggles to have it then turn around and get him signed to a A24 movie is fucking wild, aboslute talent
This guy isn't only known as "The Backrooms Guy" to me because he has multiple hits. My favorite work of Kane's is actually The Oldest View. That really freaked me tf out. It's far more terrifying than the backrooms, in my opinion.
Yeah I found the backrooms ones cool and interesting to watch. But the oldest view I was actually scared and having physical reactions to some of the moments. Specifically when he discovered that the stairs were all blocked off.
That’s because Anthony is pretty much admitted in his interview with Olivia. He’s taking the backseat and the Smosh gang and that includes the cast and crew are basically running rough on all the channels. I think he’s happy now this was always his desire. He’s molded Smosh into what he always desired from the beginning, take that defying media.
hey sounds like the perfect guy to write the backrooms, has the perspective needed for such a story to really think about these things. To write a world you need to become a part of it, so your characters can live with in it. Sounds like he's put lots of thought into it and it's really entertaining to see Shayne pick his brain about it.
26:25 His talk about toilets, food, even the idea of "spectrum between table and soup" makes me think that Backrooms really are just random combination of real world stuff, random chance of irl things scattered around... Many have theorized that, but this kinda almost confirms it? It's like atoms randomly combining to get random things and here and there you may actually get edible food, working toilet, etc
Just a friendly reminder; The Rolling Giant IS real and is rapidly approaching your location. Do not be afraid he just wants a hug. You cannot stop him.
I think to myself what I was doing when I was 16 and I realize that I was an absolute goofball compared to Kane. This guy has created a whole freaking world that has fascinated and challenged people for over 3 years now! I also want to give a shout out to how incredibly well spoken and composed that he is. I was definitely not that at 19! Can't wait to see the movie!
i quite like the idea that TECHNICALLY anything could exist in the backrooms, but its so expansive that its often impossible to actually find anything as specific as a working toilet or specific toilet paper. which gives the TECHNICAL idea that one COULD POSSIBLY survive in there, although its so so incredibly rare its pretty much impossible. so naturally there isnt going to ve a "lone survivor" in there, because thats too much luck and luck dosnt matter there.
I LOVE the clear respect they show towards kids in their answers here 3:50. Internet phenomenons often get a lot of shit for attracting audiences that skiew younger as if the mere fact of children being able to enjoy something makes it inherently bad or childish when in reality consuming art made for older audiences is a huge part in being able to mature. There's not a specific age where you're suddenly allowed to stop watching Bluey and Spongebob and can move on to media that requires more critical thinking to enjoy; we just gravitate towards things we don't fully understand yet so that we can analyze and think about them. It's how we develop those skills for adulthood and the free access the internet creates makes this easier than ever.
@@davehumphries If you wanna go there, the original is the 4chan post. It implied there MAY be intities in there but thats it. Certainly nothing about levels and waterslides.... so no, backrooms wiki is NOT consistent with the original. Kanes is actually more consistent, ironically. Despite what all the wiki fans would say.
As someone with existential OCD, maybe something to look into Kane. And actually technically what you are doing by leaning into these concepts is exposure therapy, so you'd be treating yourself in a very high-production-value way lmao. Love your stuff, it's very thought-provoking for me too, and it is the kind of thing I interact with that allows me to break out of the cycle and experience the fear in a contained and somehow also entertaining way, which is healthier, allegedy.
I dunno about it being "for kids". I'm 49 and I've been having nightmares of endless subterranean rooms for many years prior to any Backrooms content. I'm a horror buff, and there are few things that can get a reaction out of me like liminal space horror.
I adore the temporal ambiguity of Kane’s storytelling. The way the Backrooms and the mall in the Oldest View exist outside of our normal one-directional entropic existence is so intriguing and the way he teases Shayne with this on how he answers questions with more questions is so fascinating. He’s such a creative genius and I can’t wait to see what he does next. I’m definitely champing at the bit for the movie but a possible new series?? Hype 😮
I knew about Backrooms stuff, but hadn't seen this guy's stuff. He seems to have cool ideas about it and doesn't lack a sense of humor about his own things, so I guess I should go check these out!
Shayne x Kane is an unexpected and very welcome combo. The creativity of The Backrooms and The Oldest View - effects to music to plot - is nuts. Never has one of Shayne's shirts felt more appropriate.
That shirt always makes me laugh, but if a character showed up in the backrooms with a sweatshirt that said furniture and had an office chair on it, I'd be like noo thank you
I’ve always been a causal enjoyer of the Backroom I’ve seen a few of the videos and maybe theory here and there but after this interview I am just in such awe of this young man. His rules and explanations are incredible and now I am way more invested and excited for this movie
I don't think a film existing would change backrooms existence. It's all free marketing Also: Kane: "i assume they manipulate their content to enhance viewership" Shayne"I assume they drive a Subaru outback" That sent me
when kane describes things that could be in the backrooms the basic answer im getting from it is yes, the backrooms is so vast and big that there has to be one of everything in there somewhere, its like you might even find another version of yourself there or something
The stuff about scale from soup to table feels like an even further """"confirmation"""" that the backrooms are akin to something A.I. generated. I think of the recent Minecraft A.I. thing, where you rarely come across other mobs, but when you do.... it's like they morph in and out of reality, part of the environment at first, then suddenly not part of it and starting to move, then back to being part of it right after. The white snow turning into a white sheep, walking around, then into a cloud in the sky. It's all really freaky, and what Kane said really reminded me of it. It makes me think of found footage 2, where the woman comes across the room with those roots or whatever, where that creature suddenly kinda just sprang to life among those roots.
The 'soup to table for eating' scale and then the "dog vs table convo' have me reeling and like super excited about what Kane has in store for us. My best guess its that fundamentally if you break anything down, we are as much made up of atoms as the dirt outside, and that's what Kane is getting at that like a dog is just one way atoms can be formed together to be a thing, and so is a table. Or OR I'm just completely wrong, that is also always an option.
i’m anthony
I believe you 🤯
sounds good to me
shanthony
Why is this comment so low on here lol
Where's Shayne?
Anthony you look a little different. Can't quite put my finger on it.
He looks like Tom Cruise in this video.
It's the shirt, man
He lost almost all of his mullet and no beard
@@ReverendCleveSAAA!!
Think it’s the haircut.
0:29 "From soup to table" is a terrifying scale of measurement
Almost as bad as "From screen to the ring"
@walkmonkey7 no, not nearly as bad. I'd rather eat a table
@@SailHatinSoap yeah would taste better than lunchly
@@supranova565 I'd rather eat a MOLDY table! Lol
from soup to a table to the bowl
"all the toilet paper in the backrooms is 1 ply" Truly the most important topics to discuss, thank you blond anthony
The true horrors of
Read that again
*blond for guys
@@mikailar3443 thank you omg this shit is driving me insane!!
@@mikailar3443 DAMNIT (I edited it from blond to blonde because I thought blond was wrong)
It is pretty awesome that the Smosh gang has taken over this channel. I love it.
Me too! I love that various channels and companies are working together more as well. I've been saying since Dropout started that they should work out deals with all these channels to be the streaming home for uncensored and behind the scenes content and VODs. Imagine Mythical, Smosh, Pressalike, Dropout, all having one streaming home outside of just UA-cam
This kid has quite a brain on him, I respect that
It's also weird how it went from one week "a day with victims of terrorism" and the next week "a day with dumpster wizard"
Its refreshing to see them be a little more serious.
@@alexf0723that’s something i don’t see people bring up but i agree with. i really hope that anthony ups the videos about serious topics as time passes. i love all the creators and smosh members being on but we’re about to be under one of the worst presidencies and his channel could help bring a lot of awareness. it really worries me that he hasn’t dont an “i spent a day with” with any minority group or made fun of group for literally over a year
the backrooms' terror goes two ways. the fear of the alone, and the fear that you're not alone. I feel the latter is more scary.
That's kind of how fears of the dark work. Yea there's the thing of "I'm alone in the dark and I can't see anything" which is unsettling, but there's the additional layer of "well... maybe I'm _not_ alone. Maybe something's out there... and maybe it's watching me"
would you rather be stuck in the backrooms with a man or a bear?
The problem is that as soon as you introduce a creature into the space, the fear of being alone completely dissipates. The "terror" can't go both ways. The Backrooms only has the second type of horror since its inception. This is why the Backrooms isn't true liminal space horror. It's just sci fi monster horror.
@@musicwalls we experience terror in different ways. i said, "I feel the latter is more scary", not "the latter is more scary". If you think not having some sort of creature in there is scarier, i'm not gonna stop you. just don't whine about it in the comment section pls
I agree completely, the later is waaay more terrifying to me
it’s makes me so relieved to know that he has everything planned out. makes the mystery so much more rewarding to unpack in the future. (LOOKING AT YOU FNAF)
Cue 700 theory videos by the person now running film theory, carrying the mantle of matpat
VERY much appreciate having a plan and not pulling a LOST.
@@TacticalWaffle I disbelieve him and this was the exact example I was going to use as to why. Anyone who remembers that show remembers how evasive they were about questions in the interview. I hope Kane proves me wrong.
LOOKING AT YOU ‘WHO KILLED MARKIPLIER’!!!
Seriously… Mark… will it all come to together at some point, because WE ALL want the Colonel/Worfstash to find peace, Damien his revenge, Abe his identity, the Actor his soul, and us as the viewer to get the hell out of this black mirror you have us trapped in.
@@justdropIt’s obvious they only planned the pilot and basically brainstormed the rest afterwards. Love that show but it’s mysteries provided a buildup to something that couldn’t possibly be payed off in a satisfying way.
17:36 It would be incredibly stupid of A24 to purposefully limit your Backrooms UA-cam series as it is the very thing maintaining audience interest. It takes time to make a full feature and if that meant 3 whole years of ZERO new content, the interest would dry up long before it ever would hit theatres. Good on A24 for realizing that.
A24 is the studio we all wished Blumhouse turned out to be.
Exactly. It would be completely stupid but 100% something a bigger studio would do and then wonder why all the hype for the concept died before the movie was released.
See: the Slenderman movie. Ignoring its quality, it was so many years late to the party.
True, not only maintaining interest but also creating new as well. It's just extra, free marketing, they'd have everything to lose stopping it and nothing to gain.
@@Angivel This. Especially the Free Advertising angle. And with Kane stating that his plan is to build up to/release the movie and then CONTINUE on from said movie before finishing, not only is it free hype for the film but the film will be semi-required to fully comprehend Kane's big finale, thus forcing fans to go see it.
Loving this Anita Topp interviewer. Please bring them back
Shirley A Bottom needs to join in
@@Spoodersatan Shirley A Bottom you mean
Omg smosh mouth references in here? High five!
Shayne coming out on topp as always
Who tf is shayne?
@@Axle_brug shayne topp, from icarly
I want him to topp me 😩
@crunchylettuce Also known as Two Minute Topp.
Guess you could say its....another banger
26:44 him saying that the food in the backrooms is rotted could imply that there was a time when they werent rotten
When it clipped in.
@@TheOddInfluencer When was that? Months? Years? Decades?
I mean, we know that time works weird in there. What we have seen specifically is someone going in, disappearing for a few months (outside world months) and then returned and for him it was only a very short period of time. So if thats the only way this works, the food would have to be years and years old. But I think it works more like a hub, where a lot of different times can connect, so the food could be either really old, or not even been grown or made from the point in time that you entered the backrooms @@FredbonFilms
“Probably” rotted. Things probably no clip in all the time, and time still passes there so they’d only be non-rotted for a much shorter time than they’re rotted
Maybe the Backrooms is where things that have escaped death go to die with no possible way to escape death again ??? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
And then if something living ends up there eventually the living thing must be made dead??? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
kanes explanation of like his fear of death because of the thought of not existing is so real
I think we all go through this. What makes me feel better is the billions of people that came before us, they all went through the same thing.
Love how well spoken he is! I will absolutely be supporting everything he creates. He has such passion and skill and an eye for film. Much respect.
The Oldest View series is one of my favourite things on the internet. This man deserves the praise and I’m so glad UA-cam can give people like him a platform for his art.
why is his vocabulary so top-notch 😭 he would probably be like a philosopher if he was born a few thousand years ago
Finally, someone said it he sounded like a passionate old wise director i love it😂
Is The Oldest View a Backrooms series?
@@MENDEL7530159no not technically but it does share some of the backrooms vibe
@@MENDEL7530159 No, it is its own thing !
I love two things about this video:
- Shayne adding another signature item to his wardrobe, and
- the mental image I made of Kane at 10-11 years old, holding a round table type of debate with his classmates about something like Pokemon but SUPER SERIOUS
The FURNITURE sweatshirt!!!!!! perfect for the occasion
What if the debate was on the table? Is the table a pokemon?
😂😂
@@DerpidyDerp is the table the debate?
hahah yea
i love that kane makes you answer your own questions with additional lines of questioning lmao. such an uneasy interaction. great video!
This dude speaks so well, just like a director. Reminds me of Christopher Nolan interviews. Clear, concise, thoughtful. You can feel the value he has towards his work.
31:49 No, I am CONVINCED he said "When *did* they die? What Year?" He's assuming they've been dead and the media we're seeing is their digital footprint left behind.
That’s what the subtitles said
Kane is literally if The Chosen moved out of his mom's house and got a job.
The Chosen is a lot more sophisticated than Kane is if imma be honest.
Kane is the one who moved out his mom’s house and got a job here (using your example), and The Chosen is that who raised enough money to afford entire lifestyles for himself and others.
Are we talking about the The Chosen as in the show about the life of Christ?
@@daveyjoneschumgus2638 no
@@twelved4983 ???What???
@@daveyjoneschumgus2638life of Sarah Christ? I do believe the chosen made an appearance in that
I love that just by how he talks you can tell how thoughtful he is and it shows in his work.
"How close to soup is a table?" I don't know Kane, why is a raven like a writing desk?
They both produce notes, though they are very flat ❤️
@itsAriJustAri is this your answer or taking a shot at their questions? (Pun not intentional)
W
Poe wrote on both.
@@itsAriJustAriand they both should nevar be put front to back (although fun fact, that specific part of the answer got miscorrected to “never”, which made that part of it not make sense)
Quintessential jaded Gen-X'er here who has been a horror fan since I was five year-old, into "liminal spaces" before I knew it was even a thing, before 4chan and UA-cam even existed. Not unlike the character who noclips into the Backrooms in "Backrooms Found Footage" I happened upon that video and the rest of Kane's online content just this past week, and found it to be the most interesting, refreshing, engaging, and exciting new work in a long, long time. "The Oldest View" is brilliant on many layers, I loved "The Backrooms", am psyched for the feature, and look forward to checking out anything else Kane creates in the future. I'm a fan!
P.S. If anyone has any recommendations for any other online content I might enjoy, given my enthusiasm for Kane's work, I'd greatly appreciate it!
@@funparkincGreylock is a killer analogue horror series that I highly recommend
@@dead.meme.enthusiast I'm already digging what I'm seeing here of Greylock, love the aesthetic. Thanks for the tip!
Liminal spaces have been a thing since the start of internet forums and I'm glad someone is making a movie on a take on them. The feeling is hard to capture in a film because something has to happen in a short amount of time and liminal spaces feel endless, slow and empty. This will probably be more horror/thriller than that liminal space feeling you get.
@@chrism45 Yeah, I had no idea. I've always been drawn to the whole liminal space aesthetic since I was a kid-consciously and subconsciously. I only learned of its online presence, and the term, recently through the release of the game POOLS. As one who has dabbled in indie filmmaking myself, I had been thinking for some time that if someone could capture that quality and atmosphere in a movie or series, and not crowd the scenes with a bunch of actors, unnecessary action, and an excessive plot, they would have something really cool and special. Then I came across "The Backrooms: Found Footage" and it was as if the movie gods had answered my prayer!
29:47 toddlers when their parents disappear behind their hands:
I love what you did there. Funny
I'm not familiar with the series or the theories around it, so I might be miles off on this theory, but the way that the creator talks about the nature of The Backrooms makes me think that its space is a lot like the Newtonian theory of an apple in a box for infinity. The theory goes, if you put an apple in an unbreakable box for all of infinity, it will eventually take every possible form including the original apple. I think that the backrooms could serve as a spatially infinite alternative to that concept. If you travel far enough, instead of waiting long enough, you could find anything. Including a mall, a dog on a table, food, water, 1 ply toilet paper, 1,000 ply toilet paper, a cutout of a caveman, etcetera.
peak theory
my theory was something similar, but instead comparing it to quantum superposition where everything exists in every possible state.
Astolfo from fate?
Yeah I agree, when he said you could find 30-ply paper "if you get lucky" it came off sounding like a huge giveaway that he let slip.
@@egorsdeimos3523 yeah, you got me
I actually ADORE Kane's art, the way he's portrayed his work is amazing. I'm not scared by it, it gives creepy vibes and I actually love it, cuz the titles, everything being as big and vague makes me want more and more and he does so well drawing in his audience. It's very like, niche though, so certain people like it.
Like a philosopher, always asking, sometimes answering.
0:20 Kane: "I would never set up a mystery, not knowing the answers myself 😎"
Scott: "truth is, I don't know what's in the box🤡🤡"
be nice to scotty boy
@@rat7856 no
I cant believe kane is only 300 years old! His content is so amazing despite how young he is!
28:19 Every theoriest in the Audience just leaned forward in fascinated dread.
I love how Kane is just doing the thing that I do where I just go off on quick little seemingly unrelated tangents that just confuse people unless they just get in the mindset of thinking abstractly. it's so funny to watch people squirm for a response with that
Already at 0:46 I appreciate the body mirroring. This about to be an epic conversation
I guess I never thought about it, but Shayne is a REALLY good interviewer. And Kane seems such a grounded, thoughtful and well-spoken person!
25:53 I hope Kane is at least involved with producing the music for the movie because the music/soundscape is one of my favorite parts of his series
Glad to hear that the work with A24 is still ongoing. I just assumed the deal fell through after all of this time.
i always enjoy Shane talking he always has curiosity about anything i would love more of shane
Oh he is so talented, well spoken and creative. Looking forward to seeing a backrooms movie in a theater!!!
11:59 I'm in the theorist community for Kanes Backrooms series and we all collectively die inside when we see Film Theory's Backrooms videos lol.
As a member of Kane's theorist community I can confirm this is true
As a hawk to a skibbydee its still fun to see but yeah its very far off
@@Meanytang Log off Meanytang
as an avid lurker of kane's theorist community I can confirm this is true
As a member of American moms against automobiles I think trains would be better
I love the eery, confusing and creepy feeling of the backrooms, but the monsters add the much needed horror and thrill aspect to it
What we can garner from Kane's philosophical quesitons to "what is an x" we can interpret that the Backrooms is not a game simulation, or probably even a parallel universe like speculated, but implying that there's a spectrum between table and soup, there's some being, possibly sentient, or force, which is recreating 'reality' but is either approximating, or doesn't fully grasp the physical properties of what it is reproducing in the Backrooms. I place my theory of the Backrooms of something more akin to the Upside Down of Stranger Things, an other world connected to ours which is a reflection of sorts, but lost within other dimensions beyond our 3rd dimension where both space and time envelop in on themselves, but are manifested into our world through the threshold as the Backrooms. The creatures similarly within the Backrooms can likely be also explained as 'Soup or table' and is something (or nothing) replicating life in it's best way. Much like 'There may be food, but it would be rotten', we can probably infer the same for living beings (or at least, matter which appears sentient).
"what do you consider food?"
this is why I love Kane
Lol
This is also why I love Kane
@AsyncResearch-h3e yes, such a great mind
9:07 WENDIGOON MENTIONED!!!! ICE BERG BOY MENTIONED
Smosh now has one degree of separation from wendigoon
looking for this comment ngl 😂😂
oh my god that's so fun. like.. goon guy and Smosh ppl in the same media sphere. unimaginable
Surely it'd be 2 degrees of separation. Shane (and Anthony) are on smosh, shane did an interview with Pixels on Anthony's channel, and wendigoon interviewed him too.
"We're all haunting ourselves" is so real
So deep and I wish I was joking
hes literally a genius dawg
Yep ' after this interview I'm sure of it. I didn't even know he was this young but I just found all of his answers so perfect and his hypotheticals were clever asf on the spot.
Kane giving the internet footage of him saying the fog is coming at 21:28 is such a great time to shitposters
What does that mean? What is this fog?
@@mrmccranky the fog is coming
Kane is a genius and his answers keep that subtle part of you that questions things more.
1:24 I actually grew up in the city this shop was in, and been there many times, and it blows my mind everytime I learn my childhood hobbytown was actually the place that inspired the backrooms.
Which city?
@noahcody2655 Oshkosh Wisconsin, its in the HobbyTownUSA's RC track.
@@noahcody2655 Oshkosh in Wisconsin, I hope phrasing it like this gets allowed by UA-cam automods. But it's in the RC track building at the local HobbyTownUSA
@@adamusprime403 oh damn, I work in Oshkosh 😂 the more you know I guess
Kane Pixels is rapidly becoming my favourite philosopher.
For real the part near the end I was getting Vsauce vibes, asking questions you've never even considered.
I love the horror idea of you driving through a tunnel and beimg transported to a new reality, or you walk down some stairs and find yourself in an infinite staircase/corridor type thing. You don't need a monster to make it scary. Just the slow breakdown of the human mind.
The Furniture sweatshirt with the office chair is a great move by Shane 😄
the fact that kane made a simple test footage on blender for shits and giggles to have it then turn around and get him signed to a A24 movie is fucking wild, aboslute talent
Wow what an intense end to that interview. I love that line of thinking. My question is "What if the dog somehow doesn't stop running around?"
i really like how he answers the lore questions, it really adds a level of mistery and thrill to it
This guy isn't only known as "The Backrooms Guy" to me because he has multiple hits. My favorite work of Kane's is actually The Oldest View. That really freaked me tf out. It's far more terrifying than the backrooms, in my opinion.
Yeah I found the backrooms ones cool and interesting to watch. But the oldest view I was actually scared and having physical reactions to some of the moments. Specifically when he discovered that the stairs were all blocked off.
Shayne now hosts shows on his bosses channel
Because they're smart, and known he's the current face of Smosh!
That’s because Anthony is pretty much admitted in his interview with Olivia. He’s taking the backseat and the Smosh gang and that includes the cast and crew are basically running rough on all the channels. I think he’s happy now this was always his desire. He’s molded Smosh into what he always desired from the beginning, take that defying media.
hey sounds like the perfect guy to write the backrooms, has the perspective needed for such a story to really think about these things. To write a world you need to become a part of it, so your characters can live with in it. Sounds like he's put lots of thought into it and it's really entertaining to see Shayne pick his brain about it.
Kane is pretty much a 19 year old who talks like an old wise man. Soft spoken and answers people's questions with a question.
I love kane's personality he's so charming and fun!
26:25 His talk about toilets, food, even the idea of "spectrum between table and soup" makes me think that Backrooms really are just random combination of real world stuff, random chance of irl things scattered around... Many have theorized that, but this kinda almost confirms it? It's like atoms randomly combining to get random things and here and there you may actually get edible food, working toilet, etc
I love that he doesn't come off pretentious but is just as talented as a prodigy at only 19. Wonderful interview fr 👏🏾
shayne interviewing a yt horror creator is such a specific intersection of my interests that i need more of, PLS!! btw the oldest view shoutout, nice
Just a friendly reminder; The Rolling Giant IS real and is rapidly approaching your location. Do not be afraid he just wants a hug. You cannot stop him.
So good to hear Kane talk about his feelings surrounding this when we he doesn't usually get room to do so.
Yes!!
I think to myself what I was doing when I was 16 and I realize that I was an absolute goofball compared to Kane. This guy has created a whole freaking world that has fascinated and challenged people for over 3 years now! I also want to give a shout out to how incredibly well spoken and composed that he is. I was definitely not that at 19! Can't wait to see the movie!
Absolutely excited to see more from Kane he is so creative and I love his work and I really think it can only go up
12:24 it's like Doug Forcett from the Good Place
The uncertainty in Shane’s voice at 29:42 as he attempts to give logical questions and answers is hilarious
i quite like the idea that TECHNICALLY anything could exist in the backrooms, but its so expansive that its often impossible to actually find anything as specific as a working toilet or specific toilet paper. which gives the TECHNICAL idea that one COULD POSSIBLY survive in there, although its so so incredibly rare its pretty much impossible. so naturally there isnt going to ve a "lone survivor" in there, because thats too much luck and luck dosnt matter there.
I LOVE the clear respect they show towards kids in their answers here 3:50. Internet phenomenons often get a lot of shit for attracting audiences that skiew younger as if the mere fact of children being able to enjoy something makes it inherently bad or childish when in reality consuming art made for older audiences is a huge part in being able to mature. There's not a specific age where you're suddenly allowed to stop watching Bluey and Spongebob and can move on to media that requires more critical thinking to enjoy; we just gravitate towards things we don't fully understand yet so that we can analyze and think about them. It's how we develop those skills for adulthood and the free access the internet creates makes this easier than ever.
yeah but let's be honest : to a kid, the Backrooms look cool and all. But in reality it's horrific and it was never meant for kids
Definitely much better and scary than the fanmade backrooms with countless monsters levels and stupid rules
You mean the original?
@@davehumphries yes, it is much, much better than the original
@@davehumphries If you wanna go there, the original is the 4chan post. It implied there MAY be intities in there but thats it. Certainly nothing about levels and waterslides.... so no, backrooms wiki is NOT consistent with the original. Kanes is actually more consistent, ironically. Despite what all the wiki fans would say.
As someone with existential OCD, maybe something to look into Kane. And actually technically what you are doing by leaning into these concepts is exposure therapy, so you'd be treating yourself in a very high-production-value way lmao. Love your stuff, it's very thought-provoking for me too, and it is the kind of thing I interact with that allows me to break out of the cycle and experience the fear in a contained and somehow also entertaining way, which is healthier, allegedy.
I dunno about it being "for kids". I'm 49 and I've been having nightmares of endless subterranean rooms for many years prior to any Backrooms content. I'm a horror buff, and there are few things that can get a reaction out of me like liminal space horror.
This guy is gonna noclip eventually
@@slendervon LOL
They knew two guys with Anthony's hairstyle in the same room would be too powerful
Idk anything about what they're talking about, but I loved every minute of it and I like both of these guys.
I have never heard Cain talk before, but he is most definitely is either a dungeon master, or he plays dnd. 😂
I adore the temporal ambiguity of Kane’s storytelling. The way the Backrooms and the mall in the Oldest View exist outside of our normal one-directional entropic existence is so intriguing and the way he teases Shayne with this on how he answers questions with more questions is so fascinating. He’s such a creative genius and I can’t wait to see what he does next. I’m definitely champing at the bit for the movie but a possible new series?? Hype 😮
I knew about Backrooms stuff, but hadn't seen this guy's stuff. He seems to have cool ideas about it and doesn't lack a sense of humor about his own things, so I guess I should go check these out!
Shayne x Kane is an unexpected and very welcome combo. The creativity of The Backrooms and The Oldest View - effects to music to plot - is nuts.
Never has one of Shayne's shirts felt more appropriate.
That shirt always makes me laugh, but if a character showed up in the backrooms with a sweatshirt that said furniture and had an office chair on it, I'd be like noo thank you
talking to kane must be SO interesting i would be STRESSED and have a crisis w his questions 😂
I’ve always been a causal enjoyer of the Backroom I’ve seen a few of the videos and maybe theory here and there but after this interview I am just in such awe of this young man. His rules and explanations are incredible and now I am way more invested and excited for this movie
I don't think a film existing would change backrooms existence. It's all free marketing
Also:
Kane: "i assume they manipulate their content to enhance viewership"
Shayne"I assume they drive a Subaru outback"
That sent me
when kane describes things that could be in the backrooms the basic answer im getting from it is yes, the backrooms is so vast and big that there has to be one of everything in there somewhere, its like you might even find another version of yourself there or something
I think Kane himself makes the backrooms scary, like how he talks is terrifying
The oldest view is Kane’s best work and honestly probably one of my favorite things on UA-cam period. So incredible
Anthony and the backrooms is something I never thought I'd see...
still havent seen it. where's anthony?
@@videos_for_nobodyright? Like, isn't this his channel?!
he literally already interviewed kanepixels
@@videos_for_nobody I think he's in the backrooms😞
@@TheDarkMorgrayMy first thought. Lol.
Love this guy.
I grew up with an attachment to Valley View's mural that faced 635. Sad to know it's gone.
i genuine legend in the making, cherish your creative brain so much mr pixels
I love his (specifically Kane's) Backrooms videos, but I love The Oldest View more.
THIS DUDE IS SO COOL thanks for getting him on
not me at the ripe age of 25 still recognising you from a show i last watched over 10 years ago 🤣
This single segment: 28:42 - to around 30:00 ish is pure EPICNESS!
So he went from something scary enough that kids could watch it to actively scarring wendigoon
Laughed out loud at the "Food for who?" Jesus Christ brilliant Comedy lol
28:44 book to 30-ply toilet paper, where are you on the spectrum 😂😂😂
Love this type of assumptions videos
The stuff about scale from soup to table feels like an even further """"confirmation"""" that the backrooms are akin to something A.I. generated. I think of the recent Minecraft A.I. thing, where you rarely come across other mobs, but when you do.... it's like they morph in and out of reality, part of the environment at first, then suddenly not part of it and starting to move, then back to being part of it right after. The white snow turning into a white sheep, walking around, then into a cloud in the sky. It's all really freaky, and what Kane said really reminded me of it. It makes me think of found footage 2, where the woman comes across the room with those roots or whatever, where that creature suddenly kinda just sprang to life among those roots.
The 'soup to table for eating' scale and then the "dog vs table convo' have me reeling and like super excited about what Kane has in store for us. My best guess its that fundamentally if you break anything down, we are as much made up of atoms as the dirt outside, and that's what Kane is getting at that like a dog is just one way atoms can be formed together to be a thing, and so is a table. Or OR I'm just completely wrong, that is also always an option.
Why am I not as active & creative as this young man
His responses are killing me. "From soup to table" and "what do you consider an animal" made me cackle for a good four minutes
oh my god they got Anita Topp to do the interview!!! yes girll