Stogie T On New EP ‘Shallow’, Authenticity, Hip-Hop Bands + More | What A Life Podcast Ep. 5
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- Veteran lyricist Stogie T joins the ‘What A Life’ crew to discuss his new EP ‘Shallow’, authenticity, his time with Tumi And The Volume, storytelling and many other topics.
Chapters:
0:00 Getting into Hip-Hop
8:00 Earl Sweatshirt, Keorapetse Kgositsile and The Last Poets
12:00 Hip-Hop is universal
20:00 Winning a battle in Hip-Hop
25:00 Bands in Hip-Hop
34:00 Shane Cooper + ‘Shallow’ EP
43:00 Bonj, Brittney Crush, Msaki’, '80s Love’
48:00 Where the raps come from
50:00 “Drake won”
58:00 Faith + Cassper Nyovest
1:06:23 ‘Shallow’ + lyricism
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Im not from SA but Stogie to me is the top 10 lyricists in the world far as rap goes
Stogie T is a legend who can rival the best without a doubt 🔥
Is Stogie talking about the same guy who created 'Good kid, m.a.a.d city' and 'To Pimp A Butterfly'🤔 . Which are considered to be one of the best albums in rap...
But nah he's not surely talking about that guy
You mean biased apple, spotify considered his albums as best hip hop rap there are dope albums better than those illmatic is one of them. This has nothing to do with albums, views, impact we are talking about Lyrically your fav rapper is nothing Lyrically compared to stogie i can play Stogie on the same list with Nas, Jay z and Big L not Kendrick. In the department of bars, metaphors , punchlines or poetic without a doubt Stogie is the fucken T 🔥
Good kid maad city is a classic to pimp a butterfly is not one of the greatest album of all time let’s be real when’s the last time you even listened to that
we need this dark skinned guy all the time,
i like how he challenges the audience
This Lady is enjoying listening to Stogie😅, you can tell she's in class and excited at the same time😅
Tumi/Stogie one of the greatest to have ever done it ...doing it ...will ever do it. He is a gem in the hip hop history as a country ... a continent and 🌎 jikelele vele
Srogie hating on Kendrick just like Lupe😂😂😂😂😂i see the pattern, they mad tht he gets hailed as the king lyrically when he doesn't do the extra complicated writing but thing is u need to find a certain balance to be able to make your music impactful otherwise u just another dope lyricist
Real!
Couldn't have been said amy better
His just not that good 😊
As a South African, i’d like to apologise to Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole. i don’t know what he’s talking about.
Lupe is a master of craft
STOGIE T 🐐🐐🐐
Damn, the room let that "that sounds like you are saying i was a poet first" moment goo. Great timing Stogie 😂😂😂
😂 What did you want us to say?
Pulitzer Prize is not given to average artists , Tumi wants to trend on Kendricks name
I do not think you understood what Tumi was trying to communicate.
@@CalvinCycle-zf1uf he said it exactly how he said it there is no cryptic or hidden meaning , dont try to make it sound smart its not
Ppl these days can’t listen nd comprehend
The first mistake he made was saying Kendrick is not special
History will remember Stogie T chosen an alleged PDF dowloader than the man that gave us masterpieces.
Thanks for this 🙏🏾
Stogie t can bury alot of artists in America with his lyrics..... I'm American but this guy is gifted, special with lyrics is like I'm reading bible verses ❤❤
Yes but not Kendrick tho
I gotta listen to his EP!!!
Hope Stogie talks about Return of The King back on stream
I second the motion,I still have a copy from Musica :) Dope way for Tumi to "rest"
Bro
@lettuceandtomatoes4065 ey broe, couldnt recover my drive so I lost most of my music. I cant wait for it to be back. Its one of those classics
The best in our land
Yall so confused when stogie put himself up there he is definitely the greatest we have in the country Americans just know how to market their craft thats why their seem better.
He has to put himself up there yes but he's wrong about J Cole, Drake and Kendrick Lamar bruh
go watch whats the dirt videos to see how deep Kendrick was
Yeah but saying he's better than Dot is a stretch
Stogie The GOAT 🐐
😂Aaah Stogie....😂😂Yu can't park the car there Chief
Stogie T is the 🐐
Stogie is thee god of SA hip hop ❤❤❤ the lyricist
REAL TALK 🗣️
Stogie T 🐐💯👌
Pulitzer price winner Kendrick??? Ay ngeke uTumi uyaginqa😭
Seba Kaapstad🔥🔥🔥 timeless underrated discography
Zādok is super underrated
Dope musicians. 💯
@@slikouronlife true🔥
No. 1 rapper in Africa ❤
No rapper in the history of the universe surpasses Stogie T or Kendrick. They are equally unmatched, and at that level, it's all about personal preferences and biases; no one is definitively better.
😂😂 really,? You still need to know more about hip hop. What about Nas, Andre 3000, Black Thought.
Kendrick is probably the same level with Andre 3000 artistically..Andre might be slightly better. Nas is the most gifted MC ever in history of hip hop if we talk lyricism.
"A rumbling nasty punch against the crumbling Nestlé crunch"......I don't know how many days it would take for me to come up with just this bar....just go way back into his hip hop archives......every lyric justifies everything that comes out of his mouth right now that one might consider to be "bullshit"....salute Stogie
FIRE💥💥💥💥 TO THE JACKET MAN SJAVA & BIG ZULU I LOVE THE JACKET MAN
Tumi needs to go watch whats the dirt videos to see how deep Kendrick was ,
Slik stay understanding wagwan shouts out bro stay giving the youngins a platform 🫡
Tumi raps raps...Ab- would probably be the ideal matchup from the TDE roster. S/O to Dot though ❤
AKA in terms of band has to be the best in hip hop, no cap
Nasty too, HHP also🔥🔥🔥
@Silkouronlife can we please ask Stogie T to make a video breaking down the Drake and Kdot beef & lyrics from their diss songs ?
Stogie spitting! He and Lu need to collab
Stogie is a top-tier lyricist and 🐐in 🇿🇦. I don’t use the GOAT term loosely like every Tom dick and Harry. His skills are on par with lyricists you'd find on a 🇺🇸 top 50 list if there ever was one. Excluding sales, reach, popularity etc but only focusing on lyrical ability. Just my subjective opinion.
fire
❤️ ❤️ ❤️
I always took this guy serious till he said Kendrick is not better than him🚮🙇🏽♂️
Kendrick isn’t even top 5 lyricist ever
Dude is trying numbers
Bro don't sleep on Stogie T just because is not as popular as your favorite Artists, it don't mean his pen game is below theirs just saying the guy may not have massive hits or a massive following but lyrically wise the guy is something else 💯🔥🔥
He's not lying though.
he is not lying though my g
Stogie T knows very well that there's really no criteria for conciouse rap or rap in general... and I think he will never appreciate any generation of MCs that came after his coz that's what old rappers do ... Especially him, he's the only one that do people like that here is SA 4:16 😂😂😂 But he is one of the goats. Ontop of the least
Stogie is right.
Stogie is my favourite SA Lyricist after HHP and Pro…the Drake won take is the most off thing I have heard from him ever. Maybe he is hoping for a feature?
is this the full episode? it feel shortened.
Please bring back VERSE OF THE MONTH
😂😂to Stogie"you not like us"...
🤣 He's not
Man we cant say Kendrick Lamar is not special, im sorry, see thing is, stogie has us gassed calling him the best Lyricist and all but we cant relate to his music, i know the best of us try, his style of writing is cool for wanting people to say u the dopest Lyricist but we wont relate, Kendrick had to tweak his style of writing otherwise he was gonna be an Ab Soul instead of a Kendrick Lamar, Kendrick been special and he had to dumb down but he still top tier as a lyricist and can make people relate at the same time, thts the balance niggas dont have
But Ab Soul is better than Kendrick vele, just as a lyricists, not a musician 😂😂
Stogie T is great, no lie but him saying Cole, Kendrick and Drake ain't special is weird to me. Like when he said there's not a classic album here in SA😂😂😂😂😂
@@theillustratxr I get u bro but don't forget the word lyricist is diverse in terms of pockets and these 2 don't do music for the same purpose, also, back then, Kendrick used to kill Ab 90% of the times they used to rap together and we were there to witness it before Kendrick really let go of the punchlines....yea AB went on to be much more lethal in tht pocket of lyricism
@@theillustratxr 😂😂😂yea it's incredibly weird bro, nigga is just salty he isn't connecting enough with the audience and he feels like.we not tapped in enough and he might be right but bro nah u just lack tht element Kendrick has where his pen could be complicated but it just has so much soul to it it connects and cultivates the audience more which motivates them to tap in even more and understand the meaning behind the pen
@@kay_wondersa698 nah u whyling Ab Soul has killed Kendrick more times
I am interested in the battle of yours and Snazz D.
Rap has changed a lot it's sad that many people enjoy the beats over the lyrics ... Most lyrics nowadays are meaningless
I think Punch and Stogie would be perfect on the same song. 🐐
Not 7am cutting Stogie off 😮
57:50 trust me, i reacted just like Slikour right there😂
Tumi is doing more talking than making music
Stogie T must check out (H' and Them) and slikour. Also Lutroo Da-Music. The Limpopo wave
Mafoko Ami
Listen to that
Tumi ft that vocalist from Morafe
Oh k Tumi Dream is Over....WHAT!!!!!!!!!! Slikour dude should stop but I respect the show, I think Besides Covid u are the reason that these platforms in the Internet are full of Pods Grooti Salute...
I respect stogie T a lot and I'm not saying that Kendrick lamar is better than him but saying that Kendrick lamar is not special is insane and without even mention Kendrick lamar's albums and how Stogie will never do a TPAB or GKMC but even lyrically which is something I would say he prioritizes no one in the world storytells like Kendrick lamar not lupe , not jayz and definitely not stogie T , and imagine doing that while being one of the most technical rappers in the world which also is something that I think a Stogie wouldn't do and sure Stogie has some of his good qualities as a lyricist but to say Kendrick lamar is not special is insane and probably the worst L take I've ever heard in my life
As long as that cigar is on.. We good to go
Throwing ASAP Rocky in the list of lyricist is mad business
He's talking about Aesop Rock not Asap Rocky😂
AESOP Rock =/= A$ap Rocky
Probably does not even know him 😂
We miss Tumi and Reason. Yungsta CPT only one left
How did Stogie say J Cole is not special.... has he heard Secret Recipe.... Stogie is dope but hasn't made a track like Secret Recipe
Juts put Return of the king on spotify for the reals fans man hahaha
57:48 the moment i stopped being a Tumi fan
in loving memory of AKA forbes 🐐
Every emcee should feel like they're better than the next guy, otherwise you don't have to be in this game
Stogie is just stating facts.
If him and Kendrick had the same opportunities,he’d stand next to him.
FALSE... even Papoose is a better lyricist then KENDRICK and Stogie but lyricism without GOOD MUSIC is pathetic. Useless.
go watch whats the dirt videos to see how deep Kendrick was
got him looking like Flabba on the thumbnail
Stogie can crush all the "top 3" FACTS. To emphasize, yes, he's better than Kendrick
This man said Asap Rocky is special and Cole, Kendrick and Drake ain’t 😂😂😂and yall want to argue with thay man???
aesop rock =/= a$ap rocky
Why is he saying Cole , Drake and Kendrick aren't special? 😭
Siyagula les' sdudla, ukhuluma amafutha
They not because he knows he's good njengabi
Because they aren't 🤷
The thing is, hip hop as an umbrella term conforms to variety of things, but if we talk rap, pure rap, unyansile I'm afraid. They not special compared to him and or what he knows.
@@phumlanindzinyana2400 compared to him is wild cause Stogie can kill three of them but him saying they're not special I think it's wrong
He is trying so hard to be different, ngeke uTumi usephambene.
“God forgives as you give the church half your shit. I’m bugging still we can’t tell a pastor from a pimp.” That didn’t age well.
I’m glad you joined Team Jesus.
Stogie t is doing more podcast than releasing projects. We need to be honest, we can't call you a Hip pop legend with just two projects
What is hip pop
What tf😂😂😂
He’s last EP is classic though, you’re probably uninformed
@@actuallywhatthehellissouthA Shallow was good but the beats, idk man
@@theillustratxr Okay let’s just say you don’t like them. He’s going to perform the EP in France though on +5 venues, if that’s not good enough for then Ay 🤷🏼
Sabelo Hai 7am almost lost this interview
Stogie😂
Layman's term, he would go toe to toe with k. Dot any day. He didn't say he is better than him.
Lol use your ears...
Stogie why ungathi uyathinteka ngendaba ka Drake ... konke nokuthanda le AI .... awuyona ighost writer ka Drake?
😂😂😂
First time i heard AKA perform with a band i stopped going to CottenFest coz they made him close the show, that was wack!
I pray to outlive the Bassline
I mean I knew that Tumi from the V is Stogie T... But didn't know he is also Akademiks...
😂😂😂
Tumi did not give Sabelo a chance to answer the question with regards to "Return of a King".
He ran away. 😅
Lupe is hella formidable. He just talks hella amount of shit
The fact that this dude said Lupe and Asap are better than J.Cole is crazy.. he cleary doesn't listen to Cole.. and yall say this is the goat in S.A?? Smh😂😂🤦🏾
What makes J.Cole special?
Lupe is best lyricist of all time but ASAP Rocky is nowhere near Cole lyrically
@@Lukhozi_T Aesop Rock
@@Lukhozi_T Yep. Even mentioning his name next to Cole is disrespectful
Aesop Rock not Asap
have yall listened to live at the baseline yall cant tell me that doesnt trample kendrick any day?
What drugs did Stogie take before what he was saying today... lol
Stogie can body kendrick in a rap battle but for him to say kendrick lost , thats cap. It sounds like he hating ,
Cap
39:27 listen carefully 😅
I love stogie but theres levels to superstardom and artistry. Lyrically his special but so are those brothers but he shouldnt downplay it lupe could give him crazy work
He said he respects lupe😅
Blud threw me off on Asap Rocky😂😅
It's not Asap Rocky...I think it's Aesop Rock
Timestamp
Drake definitely won 🏆
There's not 1 question that stogie has answered ....I don't understand 26minutes
Stogie rambels endlessly hogging the mic.😢, i don't know the other guy and i wanna hear him out and the chick ans Slik
People base their opinions based on popularity and this American what what - just because your artist is from the states does not mean he is a better rapper - Mina I believe Stogie can smoke Kendrick period
Pulitzer Prize is not given to average artists , Tumi wants to trend on Kendricks name
@percykunene5447 I get it and I think you saying that Stogie T can murder Kendrick lamar is your opinion and its fine but i think what Stogie is saying here is dumb. How is Kendrick lamar not a special rapper ? and what qualifies someone as a special rapper ? Is storytelling
that Kendrick lamar did on GKMC not special? Can Stogie T storytell as good as Kendrick lamar ?
Can he flow as good as Kendrick lamar on the beat ?
Does he have the lyrical range that Kendrick lamar has when it comes to using different flows ?
I'm not saying Kendrick lamar is better than stogie T I'm just pointing out Stogies biases cause what makes a lyricist is not complex lyricism only it is a lot of thing and some are good at using some aspect of lyricism and other are good at using other aspects of lyricism and that's that It's Ok to have to goats in rap which are goats in their own way
Why Stogie be talking than taking him head on
Please sort out the sound guys, it doesn't sound nice.
Jay Z, Lupe fiasco and Stogie T don't have the artist ability Kendrick does. Like in terms of conceptually crafting an album. That’s something I’m into as a rap nerd. I like concepts and seeing them fleshed out. Kendrick has that down better than any rapper. Lyrically yes Lupe is a Beast.. But Kendrick edges Jay Z lyrically...Stogie T sounds like a bitter MC who never made it
Jay Z and Lupe? You should go listen on more time. Kendrick has a flawless discography, but I can't really say he's superior or inferior, artistically
Yes artistically Kendrick is better than both Jay and Lupe. I think the only MC I'd put above Kendrick if we talk artistry, it's Andre 3000.
Lupe??😂😂
Kendrick is dope along with them guys but you cabt deny that he is a media darling
@@juniorpmatroos7912 Yes he is, I fully agree with that.
Nahh Stogie is bugging😂dot would just send Ab-soul & he would smoke stogie easily
But ab soul smokes Kendrick
@@keo9179 debatable but I'm riding wit dot any day
there’s musical evidence to that statement. Go listen to the oldies, turn me up etc.
Thay part remix,TDE cypher lol nah
@@keo9179 nope. Ab Soul is a wayyy better rapper than Kendrick in terms of bars, double, triple entendres, schemes, syllables etc
But not storytelling and making good music so you're tripping
In all seriousness both J Cole and Kendrick are more versatile dynamic and better than Stogie T in all aspects of the artform and to say they are not amazing lyricists is completely appalling and evident of Stogie's lack of thorough analysis of the topics he engages.
Nah he knows the topics very well but he's too busy boosting his own ego