Robo Advisor vs. Financial Planner and Fidelity Under Fire

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  • @bradjohnson233
    @bradjohnson233 10 днів тому +33

    Clark, disagree about F advisor role at or near retirement. I spent a lot of time vetting advisors as a potential second set of eyes to plan retirement spending with an emphasis on taxes. They all first wanted to grab 1% and then defer tax discussion to 'accountants'. The few who would provide a one time general plan wanted 3-4k. C'mon. Even at 400 an hour I don't think one guy was spending two weeks soley on my plan. They all use software to provide some Monte Carlo outcomes but the time/ knowledge expended does not justify the cost.
    Unless you have many millions and complex holdings the answer (reality) is simple- educate yourself, take responsibility and save 10-30k a year for questionable advice. JMHO

  • @lynnebucher6537
    @lynnebucher6537 10 днів тому +15

    Don't expect to hear "I'm not your fiduciary." Instead, you'll hear something vague and redirecting like "I'll be recommending investments that are SUITABLE for you." The word suitable is not the same as fiduciary. I learned that from Edward Jones.

    • @Stashmo
      @Stashmo 9 днів тому

      In my view, a true fiduciary wouldn’t charge 1%!!!

    • @WriterandPhotographer
      @WriterandPhotographer 3 дні тому

      @@Stashmo How do they make a living?

  • @southernc4919
    @southernc4919 10 днів тому +34

    Financial advisors screw you. They take 1-2% of your life savings annually, place you in high cost funds that have suboptimal performance. Invest in index funds and read a book.

    • @morganfbilbo462
      @morganfbilbo462 10 днів тому +1

      I disagree. That depends on the advisor. As I said above, I did have an advisor that was not good. But after working with Schwab, and making my own decisions using their excellent research materials. I have never been sorry. And my current paid advisor was recommended by Schwab so he is reliable.
      My problem with some mutual funds is that I don't like some of the stocks they buy. Example. I don't want any AT&T or Wells Fargo. So look at your funds to see if they have them and that's what I didn't like.

    • @raylan9542
      @raylan9542 10 днів тому

      You can get a fiduciary advisor, pay an FA that makes you money because they make money or bet the trends and gamble on options and puts etc

    • @marksieving3043
      @marksieving3043 10 днів тому

      @@morganfbilbo462 If you have never been sorry making your own decisions and using Schwab's excellent research materials, then what are you paying an advisor for?

    • @Stashmo
      @Stashmo 9 днів тому

      @@morganfbilbo462Odd decision to reject a fund because it has tiny percentages invested in a couple companies you don’t like! Plus, a funds investments may change over time.

    • @Stashmo
      @Stashmo 9 днів тому

      @@raylan9542 Sounds like a bad gamble to me.

  • @romanhollow2985
    @romanhollow2985 10 днів тому +27

    That is why you do not trust any advisor. Educate yourself and invest on your own. It is not that hard but you have to learn how to invest.

    • @lg7728
      @lg7728 9 днів тому

      Yes, I agree. I started in 1977, and I stayed educated.

    • @MelloCello55
      @MelloCello55 9 днів тому

      I was an advisor and had plenty of business, so I frequently told prospective clients (they had asked their friends, who referred them to us) they did not need management. There are people who either will just not do even the basics (and why do people eat at restaurants when they can cook at home for so much cheaper) OR, they had tried on their own and did the semi-usual thing of getting in at the top and out at the bottom, and they knew they could not trust themselves. And there are many good and non-greedy advisors. I invested in the same things I put my clients in, and we all did very well. But as Clark says, when you are starting out, no, you really should not be paying anyone. My clients were mid-career big earners who were considered high net worth. And there were no robo-advisors at the time. Still, I recommended holding funds at one of the big 3. I am a CFA®️, Chartered Financial Analyst, as were my partners, and we were not salespeople, we were fiduciaries before that was even a thing. My opinion, you want to find a CFA/ CFP (dual license) if you have complications and need help. They are out there.

  • @Dan_the_mn
    @Dan_the_mn 10 днів тому +11

    Manage your own money. It's very easy and inexpensive.
    Older folks should have the advisor option as Clark suggests.
    Some many sources for people to learn. U can do it !!!!
    Thank you Clark!!!!!

    • @virginiamoss7045
      @virginiamoss7045 10 днів тому +1

      Not everyone has the same kind of brain as you do. It's easy for you and Clark, but that does not mean any other brain would also find it easy. That does not mean other people are stupid; everybody has their own talents and strengths. It's easy to be a great actor so why aren't you out there acting? How come you can't sing like Pavarotti? Shouldn't it be easy?

    • @kw7292
      @kw7292 10 днів тому

      @@virginiamoss7045or don’t like managing investments. Another option is a flat fee advisor like Facet Financial. They and others like them will advise for as little as $2000 per year.

    • @WriterandPhotographer
      @WriterandPhotographer 3 дні тому

      I have my fourth book coming out during the first quarter of 2025 about growing wealth. It is primarily targeted at younger people with long time horizons, but the information would be helpful to anyone who wants to do as you suggest.

  • @mikeberg5003
    @mikeberg5003 10 днів тому +7

    When we were younger we managed our own money. Now that we are retired and have a fairly large portfolio, AND getting close to SS withdrawals, RMD's etc, we are glad we have a fiduciary advisor

  • @jamessteele7102
    @jamessteele7102 10 днів тому +8

    Clark should make a video about how easy or hard it is for someone to become a financial advisor or planner, what the different licenses and certifications mean, etc. Also, it’s probably better to have a planner who has a bachelor’s degree in accounting instead of art history.

    • @WriterandPhotographer
      @WriterandPhotographer 3 дні тому +1

      Thank you for the idea.........I may do a blog post on this topic. I retired after 26 years in financial services as a triple-principal, along with holding many professional designations. This would be a great topic to help people understand the securities licenses, insurance licenses and professional/industry designations and certifications and what they require in study/class time. It really separates the "transactional salespeople" from those who manage money and who have gone through several certification courses/programs/exams and industry requirements for competency.

  • @dpporlando
    @dpporlando 10 днів тому +2

    I would add when starting out using an advisor also holds you back from being an active participant in your financial future. The sooner you learn market lingo and the basics the better. My 2 cents when things get substantial divide your nest in thirds. Actively managed, passive, and robo. Over the years some will outperform others.

  • @TWC69
    @TWC69 9 днів тому +14

    I think before you thrash Fidelity for selling “trash,” you need to do more research and then be more specific. What product of Fidelity’s-or one of its affiliates-can be fairly labeled trash? Because I’ve done a far amount of research on Fidelity’s equity products, and while the costs associated with their products can vary, and the rates of return can vary wildly, I’ve never come across any that I would bad-mouth this way.

    • @BottomLineBassin2
      @BottomLineBassin2 8 днів тому

      The Fidelity 500 is definitely worth an investment based on the research and how many legacy stocks are included in the index. Those companies aren’t going anywhere, so to me it’s a win win .

    • @thep751
      @thep751 7 днів тому +1

      They tried to sell annuity as a retirement investment, did a very hard sell. Does that count as trash?

    • @TWC69
      @TWC69 6 днів тому

      @@thep751 Based on my willingness to accept the risk of the ups and downs of the equity markets, I would personally consider an annuity a poor investment choice. But who are we to judge those who are unwilling to accept such market risks and are more than content to cash in their chips in exchange for a fixed income for life. As they say, one man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

  • @MarufoVega
    @MarufoVega 8 днів тому +2

    my fidelity experience is not consistent with your statements but I stick with stocks and ETFs.

  • @jamesodell3064
    @jamesodell3064 10 днів тому +6

    Instead of a robo advisor you could invest in a target date fund and save the advisor fees. Even Vanguard's .015% amounts to $1500 per million dollars.

    • @cathyg1099
      @cathyg1099 10 днів тому +2

      I’m not a fan of target date funds. Too much foreign exposure and not aggressive enough. I prefer balanced funds that remain consistent over time. Either way, it’s better than hiring someone to mismanage your future retirement.😊

    • @jamesodell3064
      @jamesodell3064 10 днів тому

      @@cathyg1099 I do not use target date funds for myself but for someone considering a robo advisor I would guess the robo abvisor would allocate funds in a similar was as the target date funds without paying the .015% fee. As for foreign exposure right now foreign stock VXUS has a pe of 15.4 vs over 28 for VOO. US stock prices are quite high and foreign more reasonably priced.

  • @mfbikle
    @mfbikle 10 днів тому +6

    I see people’s Robo advising accounts and they are invested in horrible categories with low rate returns. I always recategorize the investments and percentages. Example 30% international is horrible!!

    • @MyNameIsJeff872
      @MyNameIsJeff872 10 днів тому +1

      That is a short sighted opinion about ex-US investing. You’re looking back at 15 years where the US has had historically low rates while pumping stimulus into the economy. Who knows what future returns will be…

  • @johnguertin5054
    @johnguertin5054 8 днів тому +2

    Merrill does the same thing as Schwalb with the low interest core position so I pulled a ton of money out of there.

    • @johnguertin5054
      @johnguertin5054 8 днів тому

      Is the Fidelity "junk" their SMA accounts? every employee there pushes those things. Even the fixed income team was pushing equity SMA's!!

  • @yadavgaming-vg5ln
    @yadavgaming-vg5ln 10 днів тому +69

    the truth feels dangerous, and that’s why the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki is ignored

  • @rickdunn3883
    @rickdunn3883 День тому

    @Clark Howard. where are you with Fidelity as a favorite child ? What's the latest? Any possibly the would use their Zero funds as a bait and switch lure (I have no basis to say that...just wondering)?

  • @SandraGunther-o2t
    @SandraGunther-o2t 6 днів тому +81

    Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing below the $100k mark and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $234,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest a huge percentage of my profit and it got more interesting.! For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home at the beginning of summer.

    • @EthanCarter-n2y
      @EthanCarter-n2y 6 днів тому

      Hi. I’ve been forced to find additional sources of income as I got retrenched. I barely have time to continue trading and watch my investments since I had my second child. Do you think I should take a break for a while from the market and focus on other things or return whenever I have free time or is it a continuous process? Thanks

    • @SandraGunther-o2t
      @SandraGunther-o2t 6 днів тому

      @EthanCarter-n2y However, if you do not have access to a professional like Suzanne Gladys Xander, quitting your job to focus on trading may not be the best approach. It is important to consider all options and seek guidance from reliable sources before making any major decisions. Consulting with an AI or using automated trading systems can also be helpful in managing investments while balancing other commitments.

    • @EthanCarter-n2y
      @EthanCarter-n2y 6 днів тому

      @@SandraGunther-o2t Oh I would love that. thank you.

    • @SandraGunther-o2t
      @SandraGunther-o2t 6 днів тому

      @EthanCarter-n2y Suzanne Gladys Xander is her name .

    • @SandraGunther-o2t
      @SandraGunther-o2t 6 днів тому

      Lookup with her name on the webpage.

  • @WealthyChronicle
    @WealthyChronicle 7 днів тому +1

    Interesting take on Fidelity, but I'm not convinced. How can we trust any financial institution after hearing stories like this?

  • @pointreyes4272
    @pointreyes4272 10 днів тому +5

    The S&P has outperformed almost every type of investment over the last 15 years. Since Christmas Day in 2009, the S&P has gone up from 1127 to 5931. That's an increase of over 400%. I tell my kids to dollar cost average into the S&P using low cost mutual funds starting as early in life as possible. That and being Clark-frugal plus owning your own home will create wealth.
    There is no need for money managers, bonds, international funds, etc. Investing in America through the S&P will clobber them all over the long term. Once you hit 50 or 60 years old you will need to diversify though.

  • @Toomanydays
    @Toomanydays 5 днів тому

    I’ve been with Fidelity for decades. My experience has always been positive. My account rep once told me I had plenty of money and didn’t need to keep investing and should spend it instead.
    Does that sound like they push crappy funds on you to make a buck?

  • @agordianknot
    @agordianknot 8 днів тому +2

    Fidelity is in the business of making money. A crumb for the investors and the whole loaf for the financial institution.

  • @TaborZina
    @TaborZina 4 дні тому

    Thanks for the breakdown! Could you help me with something unrelated: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

  • @MrGus.1
    @MrGus.1 10 днів тому +2

    At 76 years old, having met/surpassed my financial goals, I'm now able to speculat/gamble/choose high yield/high risk investments. Very few financial advisors are expert in this area. They know how to steal, but not advise. I find I'm on my own.

  • @chrisjenkins2326
    @chrisjenkins2326 7 днів тому

    Question: My company 401k administered through Fidelity locks our electives and changes can only be made every 6 months (max 50% per change). How is this legal? I have a backstory of losing $77k in VWILX as of Aug 2023 and wishing to sell it all... Fidelity would not allow me to do so.

  • @allent1034
    @allent1034 10 днів тому +1

    Remember, fiduciary just means they are not trying to cause you any harm. It doesn’t mean they won’t give you bad advice. People make bad investments all the time even though they are trying to work in their best interests. Always beware.

    • @jpHarkins-kb2vv
      @jpHarkins-kb2vv 8 днів тому +1

      Good point. I beat me to that point.

    • @WriterandPhotographer
      @WriterandPhotographer 3 дні тому

      Part of being a fiduciary is strictly following the securities industry "know your customer" rule. That helps reduce the risk of an advisor giving a client "bad advice" because the advisor has a very good picture of the client's entire financial situation, investments, savings, insurance, debts, assets, etc. The role of a fiduciary is to always act in the best interest of the client, and for fee-based advisors, this should result in a win-win for the client and the advisor as the client's assets grow. A fiduciary who really knows their client's entire financial/life picture should be able to minimize, or eliminate, any bad advice.

  • @probuilder961
    @probuilder961 5 днів тому

    I love Clark Howard and am a long time listener, but I don't put much stock in the Fiduciary label. I think it would be VERY difficult to prove that a "Fiduciary" did NOT act in your best interest, especially when an advisor is justifying selling you high commission annuities if you may made any mention that you were afraid of losing money. Who wouldn't admit to be afraid of losing money while hearing an annuity pitch?

  • @gurpreetkaur697
    @gurpreetkaur697 10 днів тому +1

    Anyone recommend a Fiduciary in CA?

    • @mikeberg5003
      @mikeberg5003 10 днів тому +3

      Yes. Edelman Financial. We are seniors, retired and have used our local Edelman rep for years. They are huge and reputable. They will charge you a % of assets under management.

  • @jpHarkins-kb2vv
    @jpHarkins-kb2vv 8 днів тому +1

    Had fidelity for 28 years i. Moved both of my accounts. They were the most expensive fee wise. Poor customers service. It was the best move on my part as 3 friends moved their accounts elsewhere.

  • @AnthonyMaxwell-pb1sd
    @AnthonyMaxwell-pb1sd 8 днів тому

    What about Nationwide ?

    • @anonymous135
      @anonymous135 8 днів тому

      A ripoff through hidden high fees.

  • @bigkahuna3085
    @bigkahuna3085 5 днів тому

    PU Clark, a fiduciary can only advise you on what they know. If an annuity is best for you and they do not understand them, they are exempt. May not have phrased correctly hope you get the jist.

  • @GaryGrace-j3s
    @GaryGrace-j3s 7 днів тому +1

    Do you have two watches on at the same time? 😂

  • @George-hl2xm
    @George-hl2xm 10 днів тому +3

    That’s why I like Vanguard the best

  • @frankg.5150
    @frankg.5150 10 днів тому +1

    the apple never falls far from the tree

  • @ec62229
    @ec62229 8 днів тому

    I've had fidelity and I would never use them again. I would not recommend.

  • @gatsby6815
    @gatsby6815 9 днів тому +1

    It’s the guy with the Martian headset.

    • @jpHarkins-kb2vv
      @jpHarkins-kb2vv 8 днів тому +3

      Excellent point. I was woundering does clark want to look important. That goofy st*pid headphone.

  • @pacaguy
    @pacaguy 9 днів тому +9

    Great info..... can you please please be a bit less wordy and get to the point sooner

    • @jpHarkins-kb2vv
      @jpHarkins-kb2vv 8 днів тому +1

      Agree. That olde dude looove to ramble and he is saying same damn thing on his vids." My favorite 3 children" " " send money to my charity" etc.

  • @kw7292
    @kw7292 10 днів тому +1

    Option of a flat-fee advisor (for as little as $2,000 per year) should be added to Clark’s list. See Facet Financial as one example.

  • @BB-iq4su
    @BB-iq4su 10 днів тому +8

    Buy bond ETFs and Stock Index ETFs. Ratio over the years. At 20 years old 90% in Stock ETF at 70 years old 90% in bond ETF. Modulate and rebalance once a year. After 70 years buy CDs and pray that God likes you....

    • @MSF-19
      @MSF-19 10 днів тому

      🙏

    • @X.MillennialResponder.X
      @X.MillennialResponder.X 10 днів тому +5

      In my opinion, a conservative approach of 60/40 would be suitable for a 70-year-old individual, while a more aggressive strategy of 80/20 could be considered if the individual is comfortable with higher risk. However, investing solely in bonds may not provide sufficient growth to sustain one’s lifestyle in retirement. Treasury bills are generally preferred over CDs because they offer a more competitive return compared to CDs, which are essentially just banks profiting from the difference between the interest rate on Treasury bills and CDs. CDs typically require a higher interest rate than similar Treasury bills or notes to be considered a worthwhile investment, as there is a risk of losing liquidity or incurring state taxes.

    • @MrGus.1
      @MrGus.1 10 днів тому +2

      At 76 years old, having met/surpassed my financial goals, I'm now able to speculat/gamble/choose high yield/high risk investments. Very few financial advisors are expert in this area. They know how to steal, but not advise. I find I'm on my own.

    • @X.MillennialResponder.X
      @X.MillennialResponder.X 10 днів тому

      @@MrGus.1 If you’re retired, you might consider starting a business. You don’t need to be rich to help others or those in your generation. Finding honest financial advisors who aren’t just trying to steal your money is tough. I’m pretty risk-tolerant and would probably stick to a 90/10 split even in my golden years. That’s because 10% in bonds covers more than 4 to 5 years of expenses at that point, if I’m doing the math right. No market correction has lasted more than 18 months outside of the Great Depression. If I am over 72 I’d be so late in the game if it took me to recover from the Great Depression event wouldn’t affect me too much, I’d have other pressing issues to worry about, like my kids and other family members.

    • @davidbrooks8809
      @davidbrooks8809 9 днів тому

      70/30😊

  • @DurgaMayaChetry
    @DurgaMayaChetry 10 днів тому +1

    society would change overnight if more people read the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki

    • @chucalissa9231
      @chucalissa9231 6 днів тому

      Your somewhere in a tiny office telling people this

  • @andogamingff
    @andogamingff 10 днів тому

    everything you believe might crumble if you read the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki

  • @AmitKumar-fs3ef
    @AmitKumar-fs3ef 10 днів тому

    the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki is what everyone avoids because it’s too real

  • @tusharshitap6322
    @tusharshitap6322 10 днів тому

    they don’t want you to read the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki because it sets you free

  • @Gumby1978
    @Gumby1978 10 днів тому +1

    You need a close relationship with your Financial Planner. I am well pleased with ours.

  • @J-2024-v8i
    @J-2024-v8i 9 днів тому +3

    Thanks for the warning about Fidelity! Do you know what kind of inferior products they told their advisors to put customers on?
    I am curious as I know from personal experience that they are strongly pushing their Separately Managed Acoounts/SMAs(direct indexing) highlighting the lack of expense ratios in using individual stocks rather than ETFs, as well as claiming their ability to do extensive tax loss harvesting.
    Of course, they neglect to mention the tax hit for selling your current investments in order to move your money to an SMA, as well as the added complexity of the resulting portfolio with an AUM fee and difficult to later disentangle, not to mention the much more complex tax reporting.

    • @marsha2703
      @marsha2703 9 днів тому +1

      You are correct. I am in this situation with Fidelity and I don't know how to get out of Managed Account. Any advice would be appreciated.

    • @J-2024-v8i
      @J-2024-v8i 9 днів тому

      @@marsha2703 I did not take the SMA for the reasons mentioned above. My only advice if you are already in it is to see if their tax loss harvesting claims really made it worth the AUM fee and complexity of tax reporting. If not, the only solution I see is to tell them you want out of the SMA structure and fee, and then try to sell the stocks slowly by balancing between winners and losers to offset the gains, unless you are in a low enough tax bracket to realize long term capital gains at the 0% tax bracket. Depending how much you have in the account and how many embedded gains, this may take you a few years unless we have a general correction when you can disentangle this faster between winners and losers.
      If however their strategy for growth and tax loss harvesting more than offsets the AUM fee, then it might be better to stay put at least until a large correction where you can get out of it and maybe use losses to offset future gains, if you really want out.
      Good luck!

    • @ianharris1705
      @ianharris1705 3 дні тому

      I spoke with a Fidelity advisor recently and he said that I should do an account with him where it is a one time 40 basis point fee and that’s it. He also mentioned the upside of tax savings with this portfolio and that it is an “exclusive” offering in which minimum investment is 100k. He said he is in it too. He will be sending me info on it next week but I have always been cautious of financial advisors. I’ll see what the info says but do you have any experience with this style of pitch? Any feedback is appreciated.

    • @J-2024-v8i
      @J-2024-v8i 3 дні тому

      @@marsha2703 If the tax loss harvesting the do is not worth the hassle, my only suggestion is to call them to stop it from being treated as an SMA to avoid the AUM fee. Then, you would manually have to sell the stocks trying to offset gains with losses to minimize taxes, and maybe do this over a few years if you don’t have enough losses or space in the zero LTCGs tax bracket each year.

    • @J-2024-v8i
      @J-2024-v8i 3 дні тому

      @@ianharris1705 Can’t say what this is, as most fees are annually and not one -time, unless this is some product like an annuity which does not require annual maintenance or transactions on their part. I would be curious to know what it is once you get the info, and confirm if it is in writing that this is a one time purchase fee.
      Something I learned is, there is no such thing as “exclusive offer”, other than having a minimum amount required to purchase the product...