Awesome review! I'm the one responsible for the cabinet simulation and I want to clear up two things. 1) the speakers are original 70w Mesa Custom Vintage 30 speakers = best speakers possible! 2) the mic placement picture is not 100% realistic. I highly recommend starting with the 57 around 0.65 close miked. Then find a blend mic for it and with a blend mic you can get all sorts of options. :) Even that 57 position alone is gold for most genres. Cheers buddy!
That makes a lot of sense. My go to speaker combination for metal is a blend of 60 watt V30s and T75s, and this sits right in the middle of the two. Great job with the IRs!
@@PlagueScytheStudios Thank you so much! Generally speaking this old V30 is tonally a bit similar to a vintage pre-Rola Greenback but the V30 is more scooped and great for metal.
I just thought to ask, are the IRs you made for this available for purchase standalone? I would love to use these on the AX8, and the Fractal Modern Cab Pack 7 sounds eerily similar to your description.
@@mlsoundlab congrats on the plugin. In my humble opinion it's currently the best sounding amp emulation VST. Hope someday you guys get to do a Mesa Mark 2c++ plugin. Just check the sound on this beast ua-cam.com/video/vyPR6MeIP4c/v-deo.html
The tone at 8:01 is freaking sick ! I bought the amp sim and man it sounds great no matter what I do with it ! Lol but that tone you got at 801 is fantastic bro 👍
As a first time DAW user I just downloaded the trial of this and WOW. I never thought something could sound and feel so life-like, got the Plini one too and that's equally as good. Great job everyone at NeuralDSP!
Ok, now you got me curious. I have lots of amp purchases and yeah, the prices are low compared to buying some amp I could never afford! I like your videos dude, your to the point when it comes to the crunch and just hate hearing others reviews with a long dreadful clean tone samples before going into the real dirty channel sounds but not that I'm against it, I just want to hear the freaking crunch first. Thanks for your time making these vid's.
Great review. I recently started mixing a friends’ album, and needed to beef up the guitar tracks which were recorded using guitar rig. I preordered the JST TFMM on pre-order (yeah I know. No more pre-ordering), but were only able to get good lead and clean tones. Next I purchased Amplitube’s Soldano SLO model with an ENGL XXL cab. This was more in the direction my friend wanted to go. Finally, with all the videos you mentioned coming out last week reviewing the Fortin, I tried it. This plugin blew our heads off. The price is definitely worth the one amp it models.
Great video and very good content! Stumbled across your videos just now and immediately subscribed. Keep it on as your explanations and reviews are the best I've seen/heard so far! 👍🤘🏼
You should review the Spark40 practice amp. I'd be surprised to see what you think. It's got all the classic amps, mark series mesa's. rectifiers, 5150s, JCMs, Friedman, etc. It's a seriously powerful 40w amp and I have been playing for 35 years.
I bought this the day it was released and before I could try it my audio interface died. Going to take weeks to get repaired. Hanging out to try this plugin.
Anybody looking at this should also watch David Maxims review on it. It’s less on the metal sound but gives you an idea of the capabilities this amp has
Hey man. Love your channel. I’m getting tons of white noise with my high gain amp sims. It’s like the noise floor of my interface amplified or something. Do you have any idea how to get rid of that? Maybe a bad interface? Love your insight on tonecrafting man
Thank you! I would have to hear your DIs to know for sure, but my first guess is too much pre amp gain. My interface has pretty good pre amps, but the sound is noticeably clearer over the purely digital SPDIF input.
Plague Scythe Studios oh I don’t know what spdif is. I have just a budget box a behringer umc204hd. soundcloud.com/brian-dress/noise-no-input Here I’m going with the high z input with the pad on and the gain dialed up to where it’s not quite clipping on a harder than typical chug on my bridge humbucker
Very late to this one, but great demo. Honestly I like the NTS and Cali suites a little more than the Nameless. Less brittle. Ilok is a real bummer though. I use it but I don't have to like it. Hoping Audio Assault puts out the Hellbeast EX update soon. V2 sounds pretty good though still too clanky and plasticky in some areas. Plus not as harmonically complex. Let's hope they bring the goods here; the other EX series updates are damn good updates. Plus like most AA updates it's free if you previously bought the product. Cheers Ryan \M/
i used the free trial, i have two monitors from Maudio BX5 and a schecter hellraiser with emgs into a roland rubix 24 and it doesnt sound even close to your sound. What is the signal chain?
I was thoroughly impressed with the feel of the plugin. I have a couple of days left on my trial, but am thinking I will return to this a bit later in the year. And yes, this one changed the game for VSTs. BTW, fuck UA-cam. I did not get the notification for this video, again.
How does this compare to your ceritone gargole amp? besides one being a vst and the other a tube amp.Can you get the same tones as the vst on gargole amp
Nice vid! is there an IR pack or something you would recommmend? I'm finding this to be the weak link with my amp sims. I play in drop-D, mostly newer metal and prog metal. thanks!
The Friedman collection form own hammer is wicked, and anything with a 4x12 Uberkab with cross patterned T75s and V30s are a go to for my high gain sounds.
Just curious, might be a stupid question. But can you get a similar sound out of your Thrasher? I got my dream tone out of this and wanted to get a Thrasher 50 or a Satan 50, and hoping that I can get the same sound out of one of those, as opposed to saving up nearly £4,000 for the rig this amp sim simulates.
With a Fortin grind or 33, its pretty close. The satan is undoubtedly closer, though. I definitely plan to blind test the thrasher against my other amps, the AX8, and some plugins to see if it is redundant for me now. I would say a Grind pedal, a Satan 50 (maybe swap to EL34s), and a 1960A cab is a good approximation to this.
Great, thanks. I'm definitely getting a Satan 50 in November, saving up for that right now. Been thinking of getting the grind, might get that and put the Satan off for a few weeks. Looking forward to that blind test, I was going to ask if you'd consider doing something like that but thought it was a dumb suggestion. Ah, the wonders of depression and feeling like everything you say is stupid.
For the life of me can’t find the right balance of sustain and buzzing with this plug in. Either good sustain and lots of buzzing, or poor sustain and no buzzing. I’ve toyed with the gains, boost pedal, noise gate, etc. Anyone’s thoughts?!
Metalbaum Yeah right? I love the Psycho C and all the Marshall implementations on that thing. CPU isn't a big deal for me. If it's getting too much I'll bounce some stems.
Because of nonexistent marketing. Fortin Nameless is already on most known music channels in the moment of release, same thing was with BIAS for example. Kazrog doesn't do any such promoting so few people hear about it. Which is a shame cause they are good.
@@briandress2448 Yea the fizz Is annoying. Just track with a lot of gain so it's fun. Then once you've tracked everything, turn the gain down until you get the best gain/gay fizz ratio. You'll still want to cut a tiny amount of highs on your guitar buss, because there's still a bit of something. I think you often have to cut some highs and some lows. Less highs, but always a tiny bit. It makes it more comfortable to listen to. Anyway, Kazrog Is pretty cool shit. The ui is whatever, but that doesn't bother me at all.
Someone help me out! Goddamn it I really like the sound of this plug in, but I was planning on buying the ReAxis from Mercuriall. The thing is, I already bought Spark from Mercuriall, and can get pretty similar results considering Spark and Nameless are both based on Marshalls(kinda)... Should I buy the Nameless or ReAxis... can't decide. I'll eventually buy both but for now I can only afford one.
go for taranov amps and you will see magic, the guy is a noname among the big market names, but he makes things differently and he have the fortin also available, check the list of taranov amps try few out of them
Damn you looks really hermione with beard(and arm hair)
This might be my favorite "you look like" comment to date.
Awesome review! I'm the one responsible for the cabinet simulation and I want to clear up two things. 1) the speakers are original 70w Mesa Custom Vintage 30 speakers = best speakers possible! 2) the mic placement picture is not 100% realistic. I highly recommend starting with the 57 around 0.65 close miked. Then find a blend mic for it and with a blend mic you can get all sorts of options. :) Even that 57 position alone is gold for most genres. Cheers buddy!
That makes a lot of sense. My go to speaker combination for metal is a blend of 60 watt V30s and T75s, and this sits right in the middle of the two. Great job with the IRs!
@@PlagueScytheStudios Thank you so much! Generally speaking this old V30 is tonally a bit similar to a vintage pre-Rola Greenback but the V30 is more scooped and great for metal.
I just thought to ask, are the IRs you made for this available for purchase standalone? I would love to use these on the AX8, and the Fractal Modern Cab Pack 7 sounds eerily similar to your description.
@@mlsoundlab congrats on the plugin.
In my humble opinion it's currently the best sounding amp emulation VST.
Hope someday you guys get to do a Mesa Mark 2c++ plugin.
Just check the sound on this beast
ua-cam.com/video/vyPR6MeIP4c/v-deo.html
@@andresilvasophisma Aww thank you!
Amazing review! Subscribing.
Dude it sounds gigantic. Most brutal and ballsy sound I've heard so far, and one of the best reviews too.
Loving mine so far! Great demo. Keep up the good work!
The tone at 8:01 is freaking sick ! I bought the amp sim and man it sounds great no matter what I do with it ! Lol but that tone you got at 801 is fantastic bro 👍
Oh! And outstanding tones again. You're flat out killing it with the tones you get.
As a first time DAW user I just downloaded the trial of this and WOW. I never thought something could sound and feel so life-like, got the Plini one too and that's equally as good. Great job everyone at NeuralDSP!
Meshuggah-intro and SYL riff? Instant sub. Great video!
Thank fuck for this review. Literally the only review of like 10 I’ve seen that even mention meshuggah
Ok, now you got me curious. I have lots of amp purchases and yeah, the prices are low compared to buying some amp I could never afford! I like your videos dude, your to the point when it comes to the crunch and just hate hearing others reviews with a long dreadful clean tone samples before going into the real dirty channel sounds but not that I'm against it, I just want to hear the freaking crunch first. Thanks for your time making these vid's.
Great review. I recently started mixing a friends’ album, and needed to beef up the guitar tracks which were recorded using guitar rig. I preordered the JST TFMM on pre-order (yeah I know. No more pre-ordering), but were only able to get good lead and clean tones. Next I purchased Amplitube’s Soldano SLO model with an ENGL XXL cab. This was more in the direction my friend wanted to go. Finally, with all the videos you mentioned coming out last week reviewing the Fortin, I tried it. This plugin blew our heads off. The price is definitely worth the one amp it models.
Finally some love for strapping young lad!
Great video and very good content! Stumbled across your videos just now and immediately subscribed. Keep it on as your explanations and reviews are the best I've seen/heard so far! 👍🤘🏼
Nice review!! Hey left the link of nice T shirt
Excellent review! Objective and no BS
Just recently discovered your channel. Loving it, man! New subscriber here.
Best review man!
You should review the Spark40 practice amp. I'd be surprised to see what you think. It's got all the classic amps, mark series mesa's. rectifiers, 5150s, JCMs, Friedman, etc. It's a seriously powerful 40w amp and I have been playing for 35 years.
Heard the riff from Grotesque Impalement, instantly started headbanging.
Can this be operated with a foot controller???
I bought this the day it was released and before I could try it my audio interface died. Going to take weeks to get repaired. Hanging out to try this plugin.
Anybody looking at this should also watch David Maxims review on it. It’s less on the metal sound but gives you an idea of the capabilities this amp has
Hey man. Love your channel. I’m getting tons of white noise with my high gain amp sims. It’s like the noise floor of my interface amplified or something. Do you have any idea how to get rid of that? Maybe a bad interface? Love your insight on tonecrafting man
Thank you! I would have to hear your DIs to know for sure, but my first guess is too much pre amp gain. My interface has pretty good pre amps, but the sound is noticeably clearer over the purely digital SPDIF input.
Plague Scythe Studios oh I don’t know what spdif is. I have just a budget box a behringer umc204hd. soundcloud.com/brian-dress/noise-no-input
Here I’m going with the high z input with the pad on and the gain dialed up to where it’s not quite clipping on a harder than typical chug on my bridge humbucker
7:15 oh my that sounds so beefy
Very late to this one, but great demo.
Honestly I like the NTS and Cali suites a little more than the Nameless. Less brittle.
Ilok is a real bummer though. I use it but I don't have to like it.
Hoping Audio Assault puts out the Hellbeast EX update soon. V2 sounds pretty good though still too clanky and plasticky in some areas. Plus not as harmonically complex. Let's hope they bring the goods here; the other EX series updates are damn good updates. Plus like most AA updates it's free if you previously bought the product.
Cheers Ryan \M/
i used the free trial, i have two monitors from Maudio BX5 and a schecter hellraiser with emgs into a roland rubix 24 and it doesnt sound even close to your sound. What is the signal chain?
I was thoroughly impressed with the feel of the plugin. I have a couple of days left on my trial, but am thinking I will return to this a bit later in the year.
And yes, this one changed the game for VSTs.
BTW, fuck UA-cam. I did not get the notification for this video, again.
great video and I as well agree- this is just a killer amp sim- and I am generally anti- amp sim. Keep up the great work sir!
How does this compare to your ceritone gargole amp? besides one being a vst and the other a tube amp.Can you get the same tones as the vst on gargole amp
Nice vid! is there an IR pack or something you would recommmend? I'm finding this to be the weak link with my amp sims. I play in drop-D, mostly newer metal and prog metal. thanks!
The Friedman collection form own hammer is wicked, and anything with a 4x12 Uberkab with cross patterned T75s and V30s are a go to for my high gain sounds.
Just curious, might be a stupid question. But can you get a similar sound out of your Thrasher? I got my dream tone out of this and wanted to get a Thrasher 50 or a Satan 50, and hoping that I can get the same sound out of one of those, as opposed to saving up nearly £4,000 for the rig this amp sim simulates.
With a Fortin grind or 33, its pretty close. The satan is undoubtedly closer, though. I definitely plan to blind test the thrasher against my other amps, the AX8, and some plugins to see if it is redundant for me now. I would say a Grind pedal, a Satan 50 (maybe swap to EL34s), and a 1960A cab is a good approximation to this.
Great, thanks. I'm definitely getting a Satan 50 in November, saving up for that right now. Been thinking of getting the grind, might get that and put the Satan off for a few weeks. Looking forward to that blind test, I was going to ask if you'd consider doing something like that but thought it was a dumb suggestion. Ah, the wonders of depression and feeling like everything you say is stupid.
Preliminary testing is promising.
twitter.com/PSS_UA-cam/status/1041761589970579457?s=09
Will this work well with a focusrite? I tried this with my Line 6 POD HD500 and it sounded and felt like shit?
For the life of me can’t find the right balance of sustain and buzzing with this plug in. Either good sustain and lots of buzzing, or poor sustain and no buzzing. I’ve toyed with the gains, boost pedal, noise gate, etc. Anyone’s thoughts?!
why does nobody talk about themionik by kazrog ?
Metalbaum imo the interface and cpu usage detracts from it. Sounds are amazing though.
Metalbaum Yeah right? I love the Psycho C and all the Marshall implementations on that thing. CPU isn't a big deal for me. If it's getting too much I'll bounce some stems.
I love kazrog. The sims are awesome. I get crazy white noise from all high gain stuff though. I don’t know how to fix it
Because of nonexistent marketing. Fortin Nameless is already on most known music channels in the moment of release, same thing was with BIAS for example. Kazrog doesn't do any such promoting so few people hear about it. Which is a shame cause they are good.
@@briandress2448 Yea the fizz Is annoying. Just track with a lot of gain so it's fun. Then once you've tracked everything, turn the gain down until you get the best gain/gay fizz ratio.
You'll still want to cut a tiny amount of highs on your guitar buss, because there's still a bit of something. I think you often have to cut some highs and some lows. Less highs, but always a tiny bit. It makes it more comfortable to listen to. Anyway, Kazrog Is pretty cool shit. The ui is whatever, but that doesn't bother me at all.
I pressed like when I saw lotr shirt
amazing video! can you do a copy with the ax8?
Stay tuned, I'll attempt to do even better than that... ;)
wow! cant wait for it, maybe something with the friedman hbe???
Someone help me out! Goddamn it I really like the sound of this plug in, but I was planning on buying the ReAxis from Mercuriall. The thing is, I already bought Spark from Mercuriall, and can get pretty similar results considering Spark and Nameless are both based on Marshalls(kinda)... Should I buy the Nameless or ReAxis... can't decide. I'll eventually buy both but for now I can only afford one.
Guy Buddy I have Reaxis and Spark. Buy Fortin.
go for taranov amps and you will see magic, the guy is a noname among the big market names, but he makes things differently and he have the fortin also available, check the list of taranov amps try few out of them
Hey! I want to see using that thrasher in a Metallica cover! Is it THAT good?
Keep an eye on upcoming videos and we will both find out. A blind test is in order here.
Some premilinary results
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Liked for SYL lol 🤘
Was that some Strapping I heard \m/
I need mooer to make this into a micro preamp......
IIRC...Marshall sued Mike for using the Marshall font that said Meshuggah.
Probably more of a cease and disist, which is why they switched to the band's font on the newer batches.
I approve the dying fetus riff
cool man
I imagine you pinch your cheeks and twist the ends of your mustache before every video.
Tbh it’s better than my kemper and axe fx 2
Renaissance Jesus
This sounds ridiculous!
Thank you Jesus!