yeah...I still think this is the one problem with the game that Capcom needs to really reconsider. This diamond obvious can't hang with Itazan, but this absolutely stupid tactic can give just about anyone a round over anyone else. Wouldn't be hard to fix either. After the third throw in a row, simply make the thrower get pushed back so he can't throw again.
limeowkai The damage and stun from SPD and Running Bear Grab are the compensation Gief gets for having horrible walk speed, no long distance moves, a 3 bar v-trigger and no invincible reversals outside of CA. If you nerf that you may as well take Gief out of the game.
And now we will all be going through anger, denial, depression bargaining and then finally acceptance.... AKA The Five Stages of Gief. Also DMC4 level is OP, please buff.
..................... Head Butt Reduced the amount of CA meter gain upon use to cancel a projectile attack. (From 50 to 30.) Double Lariat 1. Reduced the downwards hitbox on his arms while spinning (1st revolution). 2. Changed so that the hitbox on his arms while spinning (2nd and 3rd revolutions) will not hit crouching opponents. 3. Expanded the hurtbox to the same position as his hitbox.
That's strange, I've never really heard of a counter throw in a fighting game only working against such a specific attack, but maybe they gave it to him because s.mk/hk is a strong poking option for a lot of characters.
Most likely. It has a high risk, though, since roundhouses will usually CC gief if you mistime the counter at all. It's also worthless against punch-centered characters like Balrog.
its only active for like 12 frames i think which is like nothing so you have to guess pretty precisely plus its only able to counter certain moves. For example it only works on Rashids st mk, nothing else. Also if ypu guess wrong you can get crush countered from it. Id say its not that great but it is another option so cant complain i guess...
So to summarize: 1.You can't jump at Gief. 2.Don't Jump next to Gief. 3.You can't stand close to Gief. 4.Don't kick Gief. 5.Don't hit Gief. 6.Don't move when Gief has V-trigger. Good luck!
Question: Zangief has a new move that parries kick attacks right? So would it be pointless against someone like Balrog? He has a target combo with kicks but would that work?
Holy crap the stages ... I mean the DmC 4 stage & that Japanese green dojo type stage with E.Ryu & Oni dead in the background, I mean I don't even play this game just a viewer & I would definitely support such awesome artworks & design in this (so far) lacklustre SF game.
Oh nononnononononono not T7 soundtrack xuses... CAHM AHN DOOD! ( nice dmc4 stage btw... the PC community is doing som reallye nice stuff! And that's coming from a console peasant) 2:23 was disgusting... he had no life dood
His back throw is unchanged. He got a forward/neutral throw animation against ducking opponents. It may give more advantage, but I'm unsure. I'm guessing it's just for flavor, but not sure.
If ur ranked 15th at your character, how is it possible that you are playing saps, that are ranked 9,500+ at their characters? You should be put into a pool, where you can play nobody over a certain rank at their character, imo.
Throw loops have always been a thing in any fighting game. It's always a rock paper scissors situation in any game when it comes to waking up, although a lack of invincible shoryus really removed that defensive strat completely.
I play multiple fighting games and this has only ever happened in Street Fighter, but you're right, it does happen, but in other games it's too risky, do that in mortal kombat and you're gonna get a full combo punish.
![SFV - Itazan [Zangief] vs Poongko [Abigail]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hYsS5V3OEpY/mqdefault.jpg)
I really like your use of slow down. Adds that little extra umph to the impact
I mumbled about 30 cursewords by myself during this video
Who doesn't love it when you can land a combo with perfect timing and gief can do the same damage with one SPD
Robin Maibals but combos are so ez in sfv compared to Sf4 it's a walk in the park
Gief is finally the monster we all know and love , i just wish theyd give him his green hand
Bro...Gief will have an answer to everything if that ends up happening. He will truly be a force to be reckon with.
Stage at the beginning of the video is the best stage in the game.
devil may cry rite
Dudley GT rite
Imagine if someone made the top of Temen-ni-gru where Dante & Vergil fought with the rain/cloud effects. (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿) I'd pay for that.
XusesGB I would for sure lol.
No character shadows though. They just need to add those and it'll be perfect.
liking the dmc4 stage!
No relief from the Gief
Wouldn't mind seeing Itazan take a Premier or two.
The power of Snake Eyez just got a buff. Same with Itabashi. Assuming these changes applies to Evo, this will be interesting.
7:55 That looks so brutal
XusesGB did u just compliment ur own video
0:28 That slow mo was kinda godlike ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
XusesGB good save
XusesGB my first thoughts exactly when i was playing the first night the patch was out haha. I love it.
I don't consider what they did to him nerfs. He's basically the same character with lower health.
I watch Itazan make Ultra Diamonds look like scrubs online. And I just know soon I'll be derping and trying Gief's new leg counter on Balrog >.
Sometimes missing leg day is a good thing.
Again, I gotta ask what song is playing at 9:06?
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 - Extravagant Underground
ua-cam.com/video/S_3sMXv6Of4/v-deo.html
It sounds like Tekken Tag Tournament's OST Mystic Force, played from the 15th second or so...
Just WOW at the last match, you went beast mode. I thought you was going to lose and brought it all the way back.
First time in my life I had to mute a Xuses video. I want the normal music back.
God I love that first stage. Brings back so many memories
9:50 5 throws in a row damn
yeah...I still think this is the one problem with the game that Capcom needs to really reconsider. This diamond obvious can't hang with Itazan, but this absolutely stupid tactic can give just about anyone a round over anyone else. Wouldn't be hard to fix either. After the third throw in a row, simply make the thrower get pushed back so he can't throw again.
pjohnston wouldn't reducing stun and damage on throws also fix it?
limeowkai The damage and stun from SPD and Running Bear Grab are the compensation Gief gets for having horrible walk speed, no long distance moves, a 3 bar v-trigger and no invincible reversals outside of CA. If you nerf that you may as well take Gief out of the game.
Mappy Bc I meant normal grabs not gief's command grabs because these guys are talking about throw loops
Are they nontechable? I know there is the mind game to tech and get counter hit as a result, but is that the only reason 5 throws in a row work?
that win against that rashid was so godlike. just... damn!
wait is that a DMC4 stage?
yes it is.
lucky pc users they can mod their game so they dont worry about costumes or stages can spend all FM in characters...
they also unlock the characters with mods
Yes but doesn't PC have frame delay? Ill stick with my PS4 lol
Both have frame delay but pc users can deactivate it.
I thought PC's delay is why they use PS4 in tournament settings is it not?
No, ps4's are used pretty much because sony funded the game.
That kolin costume tho 😍
gife is a grappler so by all means he should be the best up close but it seems any character upclose is gawdlike with throw loops
And now we will all be going through anger, denial, depression bargaining and then finally acceptance....
AKA The Five Stages of Gief.
Also DMC4 level is OP, please buff.
.....................
Head Butt Reduced the amount of CA meter gain upon use to cancel a projectile attack.
(From 50 to 30.)
Double Lariat 1. Reduced the downwards hitbox on his arms while spinning (1st revolution).
2. Changed so that the hitbox on his arms while spinning (2nd and 3rd revolutions) will not hit crouching opponents.
3. Expanded the hurtbox to the same position as his hitbox.
Watching Tundra Storm connect is so fucking satisfying.
damn that range on the spd is crazy
9:55 the grab loops...
Gief got a counter grab? Holy shit that was sick.
The counter only works on horizontal kick attacks, so it's very strong in some matchups, and actually does nothing in others
That's strange, I've never really heard of a counter throw in a fighting game only working against such a specific attack, but maybe they gave it to him because s.mk/hk is a strong poking option for a lot of characters.
Most likely. It has a high risk, though, since roundhouses will usually CC gief if you mistime the counter at all. It's also worthless against punch-centered characters like Balrog.
I main Claw, I'm not worried about my poking game being affected lol
its only active for like 12 frames i think which is like nothing so you have to guess pretty precisely plus its only able to counter certain moves. For example it only works on Rashids st mk, nothing else. Also if ypu guess wrong you can get crush countered from it. Id say its not that great but it is another option so cant complain i guess...
That Kolin skin in the second clip is nice
Zangief didn't get mad buffs, he got mad Itazan.
for me, Zangief is the most fun character to watch at sf. Birdie come clost tho.
this is so sick buffs
This game is clearly colluding with Russia.
zangief is a nightmare....
Itazan is the crazy zan. SnakeEyes got the patient gief. I love them both haha.
His iron body is invincible, so beware!
Dam...This guy is a grappling terror!
Yo that DMC 4 stage is fucking amazing!
That devil may cry 4 stage at the beginning is lookin clean
a fuckin beast he is......user and character.
So to summarize:
1.You can't jump at Gief.
2.Don't Jump next to Gief.
3.You can't stand close to Gief.
4.Don't kick Gief.
5.Don't hit Gief.
6.Don't move when Gief has V-trigger.
Good luck!
wow 2 new stage and costumes... nice
Anyone got a link to the patch notes?
I'm so hyped for Itazan and Gief!
IT'S TIME, SNAKEYES!!
Reminds me of Bane from Injustice, just have to rush and grab for a W, nice lol I like it
that looks terrifying holy crap
9:53 that was amazing
4:22 you can smell the fear
RASHID W THE BACK TO THE FUTURES!
What's the name of the first song? Sounds so damn good.
give the character more tools and let his or her decisions determine the victory
He must be top tier now
Question: Zangief has a new move that parries kick attacks right? So would it be pointless against someone like Balrog? He has a target combo with kicks but would that work?
best zang in the World....Sorry snake eyes
that DMC stage is godlike 😃😃
I didn't know you could combo gief's super.
the counter is the same as king from tekken
Goliath's That Make Hercules look like A Small Boy
Holy crap the stages ... I mean the DmC 4 stage & that Japanese green dojo type stage with E.Ryu & Oni dead in the background, I mean I don't even play this game just a viewer & I would definitely support such awesome artworks & design in this (so far) lacklustre SF game.
What theme is playing on Vega's stage?
Ravick 23 its cammy's or juni/juli theme in alpha 3
I'm pretty sure Nemo will be mad if he sees this video.
ofc its gonna look brutal if the number 15 in the world plays it xD
this may be a stupid question, but, gief always had that counter grab?!
No
Akuma and Oni death in the dojo!!!
is that balrog in a warriors costume?
That's what I thought.
Itazan vs Snakeyez... who's better?
They are both very good.
+Charles Sands 2 very diff approaches to gief but I'm gonna go with Snake Eyez.
like he needed buffs
Did you chooses this music to get me hyped for tomorrow?!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
XusesGB LOL
sees first stage
Dante Confirmed SF Character???!!! o.0
The board Gief faught Ken on was too dope;music. He even came back on Ken when i just knew he was done;not!
plaese first song name?
The age of protected Russian skies is here!
Gief is better than ever 😍🤤😆
I like the DMC4 stage :D
2:20 is godlike
scared af to queue up now
9:54 lol
grab range increased?
Wow he's good
nobody's commenting on 9:50 - 5 grabs 🤣😵😆
I would've been salty if I was that Rashid around the 2:11 mark.
this stage, is it mod ?
Oh nononnononononono not T7 soundtrack xuses... CAHM AHN DOOD! ( nice dmc4 stage btw... the PC community is doing som reallye nice stuff! And that's coming from a console peasant)
2:23 was disgusting... he had no life dood
The soundtrack at the beginning was from Tekken?
1DAR26 yes dood
Wouldn't that be a copyright?
Capcom is one mother fucking company
All Zangief need is green hand +this and we are golden Capcom. Pls don't fuck this up like so many other things with SF5.
Whoa, RANK 1
9:09 that Ken color is dope. Is that a normal default color or a modded?
Mods. You can find the other colours here:
ua-cam.com/video/AODvwMqUKdA/v-deo.html
Alpha 3 OST 👌
what buff did he get
His back throw is unchanged. He got a forward/neutral throw animation against ducking opponents. It may give more advantage, but I'm unsure. I'm guessing it's just for flavor, but not sure.
love zangief
So.. I don't need to say that at 2:23 you threw up lol
I know at least two of the dislikes..
LTG and Justin Wong. lmao.
or just MK fanboys
whats up with the stage, whats up with the music... What am I missing of here
music epic
ZanGODief
fucked if I came a cross with this player I already know what to do disconnect my server.
If ur ranked 15th at your character, how is it possible that you are playing saps, that are ranked 9,500+ at their characters?
You should be put into a pool, where you can play nobody over a certain rank at their character, imo.
9:55 and that is why people hate this game
DHerrera3942 learn how to play scrub
9:55 Slam Masters tatic always help against sf wrestler like zangief
Throw loops have always been a thing in any fighting game. It's always a rock paper scissors situation in any game when it comes to waking up, although a lack of invincible shoryus really removed that defensive strat completely.
Only those who aren't good hate the game!! 😂😂😂😂
I play multiple fighting games and this has only ever happened in Street Fighter, but you're right, it does happen, but in other games it's too risky, do that in mortal kombat and you're gonna get a full combo punish.
It was already an impossible match for Laura, but now it's officially a 10-0 match up... and that's being generous!
Deckard76 um no. no mu is that bad in SFV
Yeah, I'm exaggerating (because of how difficult it is) and if you've played the match you would know that it's a 'no-win' against a good Gief
I'm not going to take the bait, as that comment makes no sense.
Tekken music 🤘🏾
welp i guess snake eyez is taking evo this year
AKaraFighter itazan is a better gief than snake eyes imo