Remember, Spartan II's were taken as kids to be trained for all warfare. Spartan III's were orphans of Covenant war, Spartan IV's are adult soldiers that passed the test to join the program. Spartan II's and III's will always be better than these guys.
These Spartan IV's are probably just the grunts of the program. I want to see ODST with Spartan grade augmentations and equipment. Helljumper Spartans would be kickass. ODST training is no joke so I'd like to see some Spartan IV's show some efficiency.
"There won't be any program; not like the Spartan-Twos, anyway or the Spartan-Threes, if I can help it. We're back to using consenting adults now, like we did in Project Orion(Spartan I's)" - Margaret Parangosky Spartans from all generations were invited to the SPARTAN-IV program; Orions, Spartan 1.1s, SPARTAN-IIs and SPARTAN-IIIs could be considered SPARTAN-IVs if they joined. There is reason to believe a number of Spartan-IVs are former ODSTs as well, indicated by ingame dialogue.
Badass Elite "Let us not place the ship in a stable orbit around the planet, let's have it hover in one place, so if our engines fail, we'll be freefalling towards the surface."
Let's invite Halsley onboard! She is know to be incredibly manipulative and understands almost all of UNSC security. Just make sure she doesn't find out the master chief is alive!
Well if you play as team crimson they are probably the best team of Spartans on the Infinity since you do control them but in universe your actions are mostly canon
You're right. They found orphaned survivors from planets that were attacked by the covenant and offered them the chance for revenge. They were recruited for a training program that was designed to be even tougher than the one the Spartan IIs were put through. But, LTC Ambrose stated to CPO Mendez that, "You know... we wind up with some that she would have chosen - not just kids unlucky enough to survive a glassing." Some of the III candidates were on par with IIs, Noble Team in particular.
The S-IIIs were also primarily used for suicide missions faster/cheaper creation. They also got cheap armor, SPI. A few of them, such as Noble, were as good as the S-IIs so they were pulled out of the suicide missions before they occured and gave them mjolnir armor. They then worked under ONI or the UNSC.
Mendez was brought back in to train the Spartan IIIs as well. A Spartan-II, Kurt-051, was apparently "killed in action," but brought in to help run the training facility and worked with Sgt. Mendez in designing an even tougher and more effective training regime than the Spartan IIs had. He managed the place, with oversight by ONI. I would agree with you, that the Spartan IVs are like ODSTs in Mjolnir Armor, but I'd add that they also have gene modification and extra, Spartan level training.
I believe they did get ODSTs to enlist into the Spartan IV program. They created an entirely separate branch of the UNSC Defense Force. The ODSTs are a special ops unit, but the Spartans are now an entirely independent branch of the UNSCDF. You can transfer if you meet the requirements (or you might have to be invited, I don't have that information). I'm almost positive they've recruited from both the Marines and ODST, as well as allowing any older Spartans to join.
Ghosts of Onyx stated that the training given to the Spartan IIs was improved upon, and that the training given to the Spartan IIIs was even harder and produced more discipline and teamwork, etc... The program was designed by Kurt-051, later Lt. Commander Kurt Ambrose, and Sgt. Franklin Mendez (the Spartan II's Drill Sergeant) to be harder and make the Spartan IIIs even tougher and more disciplined. I don't know if the Spartan IIIs were given genetic modification, but the IVs were.
Spartan IV's are military personal who were fitted for the program. They weren't train since the age of 4 or 5. Plus the new augmentations or w/e don't take as much a toll on the body.
there are elevators on the last level, the maw, but none on the missions in the covenant ship, truth and reconciliation and the mission Keyes. He is referring to the part after you bring pillar of autumn's engines offline, where you get to the elevator to reach the warthogs for the warthog run.
The Spartans and the ODSTs are actually both based on the Mobile Infantry from Robert Heinlein's "Starship Troopers." As far as I know, that novel was the first modern military science fiction novel to incorporate powered armor. The Mobile Infantry were highly trained troops who wore powered armor with semi-automated weapons and all sorts of fun gadgets, and were deployed from orbit in re-entry capsules, that broke up during re-entry and deposited the Troopers directly onto the battlefield.
Okay no, it was the xbox version on our xbox 360, it was one of the last levels in the game while you were inside the pillar of autumn with the shade turret part. The other one where you have to protect keys is the same level were you have to board the covenant ship with the sniper rifle.
They are basically veteran marines/odsts with slight enhancements to allow them to wear the armour..in essences they are worth as much as a well trained ODST just with better equipment.
That things like a memory bank. It takes information and it doesn't come back out. It took the professor as information and stored him away. Probably named the file " humans"
Near as I've heard, the precursers are the flood. Perhaps they modified themselves from what they were, but the flood is the same race that created the forerunners in the first place.
John-117 wasn't actually promoted, an admirer carved his numerical designation (117) on his memorial and put a Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy patch on it, in place of the missing photo of his face (the Navy wouldn't put a photo of his face on the memorial). But he was never promoted above Master Chief Petty Officer.
Okay to clarify I never played Halo CE campaign before (original not anniversary) but I watched my brother play it, they removed the part after you save keys were you have to protect him, and the part in the Maw or Pillar of Autumn (I forgot which level.) were an elevator comes down for you and on it there is a shade turret and a few grunts and an elite, they still have the grunts and elite there but not the shade.
I had completely forgotten about the animosity between the ODSTs and the Spartans. I've neither played Halo 3: ODST nor read The Fall of Reach recently. I thought I'd read somewhere that they recruited Spartan IVs primarily from Marines and ODSTs, but I may have made that up in my own head and thought I'd read it somewhere. I'll look around and see if I can find anything. Thanks for the info.
SPARTAN-III's are different in that they were mostly war orphans that nobody would miss. The SPARTAN-IV's are augmented in much the same way however they get to wear MJOLNIR GEN2 instead of the usual SPI armour are are recruited from adults in the UNSC Armed Forces. Any surviving II's and III's would have been merged with the IV's after the War.
The idea behind Spartan IV is to make them be more human than machine to make them more cost effective due to this they've managed to keep their emotions intact for the most part the Chief on the other hand is different and at the beginning at the campaign it's explained that the SIIs were already showing signs of insanity and PTSD even before the covenant invasion
Well, all the things you mentioned at the end are in Halo 4, they're implementing a skill/rank system next month. The only Brute weapon Bungie kept in Reach was the Grav Hammer (which is still in) and 343 brought back the scoped pistol and both the DMR and Battle Rifle. I miss the smg but to be honest it wouldn't work without dual-wielding (like the weak Halo 2 pistol). Bringing back a now useful Assault Rifle fills the gap and it would basically just be a different model for the same gun...
Its not a game, more a franchise. It started life as a Tabletop War game and is now the most successful and well known of its kind in the world. It has a LOT of books set in it including the fantastic Gaunt's Ghosts series and the New York Times Bestseller Horus Heresy series. As for games you wouldn't go wrong with the RTS game Dawn of War and its expansions & Dawn of War II and its expansions. Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine on the other hand is an underrated 3rd person shooter/hack'n'slash.
Spartan IVs are just normal soldiers (the best of various existing branches) that got augmented in a manner similar to IIIs so they could use the MJOLNIR armor. So naturally they're not the hardcore stone cold disciplined trained to eat breathe and kill since childhood soldiers the IIs or IIIs were.
To be a Spartan IV was optional and by choice.People weren't forced like the Spartan II's and III's.The UNSC went back to like it was with Spartan I's and make it a choice.Considering ODST's weren't really friendly with Spartans,it'd be unlikely they get augmented but maybe some did.
Okay, that makes a hell of a lot more sense now. Thanks for the clarification. I do remember that elevator, but I'm sure there was never a turret on it.
Actually ODST's canonically are on the Infinity just don't appear in-game.And being a Spartan is actually an ODST's worst dream because ODST's and Spartans don't get along since Masterchief beat the crap out of 3 when he was still training and they felt replaced as special forces.As for the armor,just a coincidence but there may be a couple who transferred but unlikely
These Spartan IV's are mass-produced Spartans, as Halsey said in the intro the Spartans are our future as a species. Nothing will ever come close to the Spartan II's. Except for the durability of the Spartan III's.
Scenario 2= Spartan Palmer kicks unknown alien artifact, turns out to be aged, fragile forerunner bomb made to destroy flood. Her kick has enough force to cause its inner switch to activate thus causing the bomb to detonate and killing everyone onboard.
Humanity just discovered forerunner tech, and have made headway into innovating likewise tech. It makes sense that a lot of their designs are becoming more futuristic.
I never said the domain could fix her rampancy. It's just that could have got into it somehow and used the covenant AI's self-replication code and pushed alot of data into that one to free up processing. So she can think more clearly(Though the way I say it makes it sound counter-productive, considering the one thing she'd have to stop herself from doing would be to think.).The domain would house information on forerunner Ancillas. Ancillas has very long life spans. Cortana can use that info.
Spartan II where started as kids they where indoctrinated with military strategy and disciple from a young age. Spartan III (halo reach) where a cheaper form of the Spartan II (they could be mass produced)... Spartan IVs all held military positions before deciding to become Spartans, they went thru the augmentations and training but did so when they where adults not children.
wow, I just read the book again after af few years ... his reflexes under stress are 6 times faster than that of a normal human. Happened on a test field when he had to prove the awesomeness of the Mjolnir Armor for the first time ... he barely got away though, but won as he is used to ^^
ODSTs kinda are the 'Leeroy Jenkins' of the Spartan world... the just go in to the middle of the battle hoping to live. They also are more trained that regular Spartans.
the IIIs are also pretty hardass and discplined due to their legendary trainers like kurt and mendez. they had a pretty tough initiation in ghosts of onyx too
Thanks MaestroRigale for getting back to me. The Spartan III's were given genetric modications. It's been a while since I read Ghosts of Onyx but i remember reading that when the Spartan III's took off their helmets they looked like children in olympic bodies. btw, do you recommend any other books besides fall of reach, first strike, or ghosts of Onyx that covers Spartans?
Well the main reason is that the Spartan-IVs are composed of volunteers from all branches of the military and haven't gone through the hardcore training the S-IIs & IIIs underwent.
Considering that the ODST was a special forces branch of the Marines, and they were the best of the best of the standard human soldiers, I think it is quite likely that they would have been up for augmentation into the Spartan IV program. Hell, UNSC brass probably encouraged them to step up.
He's earned every single medal the UNSC grants to its members accept the POW medal. He's fought and killed thousands of enemies, he's saved the human race a couple of times, he's possibly the most successful Spartan in the history of the program (though he's not the strongest, smartest, or most skilled, he's probably the luckiest). He's the unofficial leader of the Spartan IIs and most of them defer to him, though Frederic-104 outranks him and was considered one of the other natural leaders.
John-117 is just a Master Chief Petty Officer, not Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. Those are two separate ranks, like General and General of the Army are two separate ranks. In fact, there is another rank, General of the Armies, which only two officers have ever held, and is separate from the other two ranks. MCPO of the Navy is the highest single enlisted member of the Navy, but there are multiple MCPOs. In any case, ANY officer outranks an enlisted member of the military.
I think something that people should keep in mind is one of the themes of this game is that the Humans are walking down the path of the Forerunners. They are beginning to reach the same level of technological advancement, and one of the things that the Librarian said she did was give them a predisposition toward creating "battle-skins" "ancillae" etc... the Forerunners gave augmentations similar to that of the Spartans (via "mutation"), plus powered armor and AIs to their entire population.
It seems like Fem Shep is alive after all. I knew going full paragon would give me an alternative ending into something more epic! (Sarah's voice actor is also Fem Shep's voice actor)
Yes, that's true, but if you think about it, the foundations for upgrades are there. She and Chief were planned by the Librarian LONG before they were even born, basicly at the end of the forerunner-flood war. She implanted a geas into the human race. It eventually ended up with halsey, who then made Cortana. The way Cortana was made was different from all the other AI's, thus having a different effect. She was a clone of Halseys living tissue. 343 Guilty spark is clone (kinda) of a human.Chakas
they can spit acid. they regenerate wounds that would kill humans almost instantaneously. they can see in the dark without nvg's. they can withstand radiation. etc etc etc and they're immortal, if not killed in combat.
Pretty much thought this after having finished the campaign. They left it open a little which considering this as well leads to that possiblity being more likely
While the book did indeed come first, lets not forget that the film alien revolutionised the science fiction genre by setting the 'bar' on how space marines look like. The uncs marines from halo 1 look almost identical to the ones in alien.
Odds are the Librarian made some kind of copy or something of her while John was busy being augmented by the Librarian. The Librarian did say that John's evolution, MJOLNIR armor, and Cortana were the culmination of a "lifetime of planning" though we don't know what she was planning for, most likely the Precusors or w/e, I doubt that she didn't take Cortana's rampancy into account. Plus the Didact survived so it's possible she did as well. A sad, noble death though if she didn't make it. :'(
Who knows. Would certainly be an interesting plot to explore. But I think the flood's purpose is to test the galaxy to see if any of the races can defeat it. If one can, as humans almost did (see Halo 4 terminals) then that race will inherat the mantle of repsonsibility for all other races in the galaxy.
On the other hand, this is MASTER CHIEF. Who cares about rank, he outranks anybody, and he can kick the augmentations out of any spartan who challenges him.
I know he was BSing. I was trying to be polite, and it was possible that recent information that had changed canon had come out and I just didn't know about it. But I know that ODSTs don't start training at age 6, like the Spartan IIs (and IIIs?) did. The Spartan IIs and IIIs are by far the most highly trained fighters the UNSC has ever had. Remember that John has killed multiple ODSTs on accident, and disarmed without killing (which is much harder) more in a demonstration/testing exercise.
The forerunner race itself as a hole is dead. the didact (which is what he fought in halo 4) was awoken by chief. but this guy said he killed didact AND the forerunner race(which isn't true)
That's the thing though. The Spartan IV's were adults when they went through augmentation and had lives prior to becoming spartans. The II's and III's had no lives, all they knew was Goal and Execution.
I know right? Crimson is like, by far THE BEST spartan squad to ever exist at any point in time in any area of the known universe! ...*looks at sr...20...*
it took a full fireteam of spartan - IVs to barely defeat a few of those forerunner warriors. it took only one spartan - II to do the same thing. perfect example of the degree in the difference of strength between a spartan 2 and a spartan 4.
Well in Halo 3 I only heard that mainly from Marines but I probably missed the ODST's saying that.As for the Masterchief beating up 3 ODST's came from was in a comic called Halo Helljumper which was canon(don't worry)
LCDR Ambrose/Kurt-051 promoted him to LTJG in Ghosts of Onyx. He's now the highest ranked, confirmed in-action Spartan II. Spartan IIs were very rarely promoted to officers. Master Chief has more than enough command experience to warrant a position as an officer, but he's just never been promoted. Probably never will, either. We're all too fond of calling him "Master Chief."
To be fair, she has been augmented; all of the Spartan IVs are given both genetic and other biological augmentations, both for the basic increase in fighting ability and to enable them to wear the Gen. 2 Mjolnir armor. If they weren't augmented, the armor would kill them just like it killed the those who tested the Mjolnir Powered Armor prototypes. By definition, she had to be augmented to wear the "Spartan suit."
*DMR, and partially at that because the DMR was supposed to be a product of the scoped magnum and battle rifle. I say this because the developers stated flat out that they wanted the game to play like the first Halo, and because that's what the developers usually do to guns every time they make a new halo game (ie the introductino of the brute plasma rifle, unscoped mag, introduction of the smg, the faster needler and whatnot)
I consider defeating your enemy at the cost of wiping out your entire civilization "loosing", and regardless, the Imperium still faces significantly deadlier threats than the flood on a regular basis, and somehow manages to survive.
well when an unknown forerunner device is screwing with your ship and you don't know what it does....just kick it...
Because it COULD totally be a BOMB or a MINI-COMPOSER.
exactly!!!!
Well, its a risk to be taken.
Exactly!!!
Percussive maintenance
These cinematics are so beautiful!
Remember, Spartan II's were taken as kids to be trained for all warfare. Spartan III's were orphans of Covenant war, Spartan IV's are adult soldiers that passed the test to join the program. Spartan II's and III's will always be better than these guys.
john and noble team laughing at virging spartan locke and his buds except buck buck is a cool dude everyone is ok with him
@AttackonKyojin they were in the lore. I like spartan 4 armour.
Spartan Thorne in the only fan favorite Spartan IV
These Spartan IV's are probably just the grunts of the program. I want to see ODST with Spartan grade augmentations and equipment. Helljumper Spartans would be kickass. ODST training is no joke so I'd like to see some Spartan IV's show some efficiency.
I thought a lot of the 4’s were previously ODST
Fire team osiers
@@williamporter2131 most of them are. Just research the lore.
DeMarco (The Leader) and Hoya (The Black one) are ODST’s
And Buck becomes a Spartan IV
You play as Buck In Halo 5
Fireteam Majestic are no grunts, they did interesting Feat’s in comics.
Especially DeMarco and Thorne
Bring random unknown alien technology onto the ship they said
It would be fun they said.....
They are massive idiots, I said.
shropshirec Nice xD
"There won't be any program; not like the Spartan-Twos, anyway or the Spartan-Threes, if I can help it. We're back to using consenting adults now, like we did in Project Orion(Spartan I's)"
- Margaret Parangosky
Spartans from all generations were invited to the SPARTAN-IV program; Orions, Spartan 1.1s, SPARTAN-IIs and SPARTAN-IIIs could be considered SPARTAN-IVs if they joined. There is reason to believe a number of Spartan-IVs are former ODSTs as well, indicated by ingame dialogue.
a lot of ODSTs ended up in the S-IV program
@@EthanThomson Palmer was originally ODST, IIRC
Most of Alpha Nine are Spartan IVs (bar dutch and rookie RIP)
and yeah Palmer was a former ODST turned Spartan
Hey look! We found a potentially dangerous alien artifact! Lets bring it o our ship and touch it! Lol!
Badass Elite
"Let us not place the ship in a stable orbit around the planet, let's have it hover in one place, so if our engines fail, we'll be freefalling towards the surface."
Let's invite Halsley onboard! She is know to be incredibly manipulative and understands almost all of UNSC security. Just make sure she doesn't find out the master chief is alive!
“Hey, look at this!”
Famous last words. For a scientist this guy was a little stupid.
I love how the infinity has little ships that come out....
ahh vending machine science when your emp device activates just kick it and all will be well
Thank God for Lasky being the new Captain because Del Rio was too damn spineless to fulfill his most fundamental duty: protecting humanity.
Damn this looks just like live action!
I still love that crimson team curb stomp the shit out of everyone
the master chief can take on 200 of them promeathins lol these other Spartans make it look hard
Well if you play as team crimson they are probably the best team of Spartans on the Infinity since you do control them but in universe your actions are mostly canon
Aaron Rowland that’s cause gen 2 Spartans were the real shit
I see Commander Palmer prefers the Fonze approach to equipment repair. *double thumbs up* Ayyyyyy!
Did he get composed? Damn
No, only teleported to the surface.
You're right. They found orphaned survivors from planets that were attacked by the covenant and offered them the chance for revenge. They were recruited for a training program that was designed to be even tougher than the one the Spartan IIs were put through. But, LTC Ambrose stated to CPO Mendez that, "You know... we wind up with some that she would have chosen - not just kids unlucky enough to survive a glassing." Some of the III candidates were on par with IIs, Noble Team in particular.
Am I the only one who can't watch the Cutscenes on the xbox
the lighting, the cloth simulations, the c-g rendering, the real time reflections. 343?
ITS PERFECT.
This is awesome!
Mans was sucked into the forever box
That opening fight scene was DEFINITELY not on legendary. Noobs :)
The S-IIIs were also primarily used for suicide missions faster/cheaper creation. They also got cheap armor, SPI. A few of them, such as Noble, were as good as the S-IIs so they were pulled out of the suicide missions before they occured and gave them mjolnir armor. They then worked under ONI or the UNSC.
Everyone that watches this video jesus loves you and repent of your sins so you can inherit God's kingdom and get the free gift of eternal life
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She could tear me apart but the spirit is willing as they say.
I love that the game was turned into a show. WHO DOES THAT!? 343 did its thang. Halo #1 gaming franchise of all time
Mendez was brought back in to train the Spartan IIIs as well. A Spartan-II, Kurt-051, was apparently "killed in action," but brought in to help run the training facility and worked with Sgt. Mendez in designing an even tougher and more effective training regime than the Spartan IIs had. He managed the place, with oversight by ONI. I would agree with you, that the Spartan IVs are like ODSTs in Mjolnir Armor, but I'd add that they also have gene modification and extra, Spartan level training.
I believe they did get ODSTs to enlist into the Spartan IV program. They created an entirely separate branch of the UNSC Defense Force. The ODSTs are a special ops unit, but the Spartans are now an entirely independent branch of the UNSCDF. You can transfer if you meet the requirements (or you might have to be invited, I don't have that information). I'm almost positive they've recruited from both the Marines and ODST, as well as allowing any older Spartans to join.
It is. Just above where you select the spartan op mission. Might just be in the solo menu though. It will saw "Watch Episode"
Ghosts of Onyx stated that the training given to the Spartan IIs was improved upon, and that the training given to the Spartan IIIs was even harder and produced more discipline and teamwork, etc... The program was designed by Kurt-051, later Lt. Commander Kurt Ambrose, and Sgt. Franklin Mendez (the Spartan II's Drill Sergeant) to be harder and make the Spartan IIIs even tougher and more disciplined. I don't know if the Spartan IIIs were given genetic modification, but the IVs were.
Spartan IV's are military personal who were fitted for the program. They weren't train since the age of 4 or 5. Plus the new augmentations or w/e don't take as much a toll on the body.
there are elevators on the last level, the maw, but none on the missions in the covenant ship, truth and reconciliation and the mission Keyes. He is referring to the part after you bring pillar of autumn's engines offline, where you get to the elevator to reach the warthogs for the warthog run.
The Spartans and the ODSTs are actually both based on the Mobile Infantry from Robert Heinlein's "Starship Troopers." As far as I know, that novel was the first modern military science fiction novel to incorporate powered armor. The Mobile Infantry were highly trained troops who wore powered armor with semi-automated weapons and all sorts of fun gadgets, and were deployed from orbit in re-entry capsules, that broke up during re-entry and deposited the Troopers directly onto the battlefield.
They're making content for the game, Its supposed to be like a movie but your player fills in the gaps. I think their kicking ass imo
Okay no, it was the xbox version on our xbox 360, it was one of the last levels in the game while you were inside the pillar of autumn with the shade turret part. The other one where you have to protect keys is the same level were you have to board the covenant ship with the sniper rifle.
So much better than going through Halo Waypoint.
Ah yes. When an alien device is all lighting up and behaving in unknown ways, what you do is keep touching it.
They are basically veteran marines/odsts with slight enhancements to allow them to wear the armour..in essences they are worth as much as a well trained ODST just with better equipment.
Agreed, she and Thorne seem pretty level headed from the rest of the bunch.
I noticed that too, they were using first names with each other (not standard for military)
Lasky is a beast. The man got tackled by a spartan and took it like a champ.
No the frigates are actually one of the smaller unsc ships. The biggest one before the Infinity were the Phoenix-class colony ships
That things like a memory bank. It takes information and it doesn't come back out. It took the professor as information and stored him away. Probably named the file " humans"
Near as I've heard, the precursers are the flood. Perhaps they modified themselves from what they were, but the flood is the same race that created the forerunners in the first place.
John-117 wasn't actually promoted, an admirer carved his numerical designation (117) on his memorial and put a Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy patch on it, in place of the missing photo of his face (the Navy wouldn't put a photo of his face on the memorial). But he was never promoted above Master Chief Petty Officer.
Okay to clarify I never played Halo CE campaign before (original not anniversary) but I watched my brother play it, they removed the part after you save keys were you have to protect him, and the part in the Maw or Pillar of Autumn (I forgot which level.) were an elevator comes down for you and on it there is a shade turret and a few grunts and an elite, they still have the grunts and elite there but not the shade.
I had completely forgotten about the animosity between the ODSTs and the Spartans. I've neither played Halo 3: ODST nor read The Fall of Reach recently. I thought I'd read somewhere that they recruited Spartan IVs primarily from Marines and ODSTs, but I may have made that up in my own head and thought I'd read it somewhere. I'll look around and see if I can find anything. Thanks for the info.
Percussive maintenance. Commander Palmer is clearly well versed in the art.
Roland's avatar i'm okay with. It's his personality and logic that gets me.
SPARTAN-III's are different in that they were mostly war orphans that nobody would miss. The SPARTAN-IV's are augmented in much the same way however they get to wear MJOLNIR GEN2 instead of the usual SPI armour are are recruited from adults in the UNSC Armed Forces. Any surviving II's and III's would have been merged with the IV's after the War.
The idea behind Spartan IV is to make them be more human than machine to make them more cost effective due to this they've managed to keep their emotions intact for the most part the Chief on the other hand is different and at the beginning at the campaign it's explained that the SIIs were already showing signs of insanity and PTSD even before the covenant invasion
Well, all the things you mentioned at the end are in Halo 4, they're implementing a skill/rank system next month. The only Brute weapon Bungie kept in Reach was the Grav Hammer (which is still in) and 343 brought back the scoped pistol and both the DMR and Battle Rifle. I miss the smg but to be honest it wouldn't work without dual-wielding (like the weak Halo 2 pistol). Bringing back a now useful Assault Rifle fills the gap and it would basically just be a different model for the same gun...
Its not a game, more a franchise. It started life as a Tabletop War game and is now the most successful and well known of its kind in the world. It has a LOT of books set in it including the fantastic Gaunt's Ghosts series and the New York Times Bestseller Horus Heresy series. As for games you wouldn't go wrong with the RTS game Dawn of War and its expansions & Dawn of War II and its expansions. Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine on the other hand is an underrated 3rd person shooter/hack'n'slash.
Spartan IVs are just normal soldiers (the best of various existing branches) that got augmented in a manner similar to IIIs so they could use the MJOLNIR armor. So naturally they're not the hardcore stone cold disciplined trained to eat breathe and kill since childhood soldiers the IIs or IIIs were.
To be a Spartan IV was optional and by choice.People weren't forced like the Spartan II's and III's.The UNSC went back to like it was with Spartan I's and make it a choice.Considering ODST's weren't really friendly with Spartans,it'd be unlikely they get augmented but maybe some did.
Okay, that makes a hell of a lot more sense now. Thanks for the clarification.
I do remember that elevator, but I'm sure there was never a turret on it.
Actually ODST's canonically are on the Infinity just don't appear in-game.And being a Spartan is actually an ODST's worst dream because ODST's and Spartans don't get along since Masterchief beat the crap out of 3 when he was still training and they felt replaced as special forces.As for the armor,just a coincidence but there may be a couple who transferred but unlikely
That's how Spartans fix there problems..its never failed them before..Chief would be so proud.
These Spartan IV's are mass-produced Spartans, as Halsey said in the intro the Spartans are our future as a species.
Nothing will ever come close to the Spartan II's. Except for the durability of the Spartan III's.
Scenario 2= Spartan Palmer kicks unknown alien artifact, turns out to be aged, fragile forerunner bomb made to destroy flood. Her kick has enough force to cause its inner switch to activate thus causing the bomb to detonate and killing everyone onboard.
Humanity just discovered forerunner tech, and have made headway into innovating likewise tech. It makes sense that a lot of their designs are becoming more futuristic.
That's because Spartan IIs had their reactions heighten. Not to mention that they started training at 4 years old.
I never said the domain could fix her rampancy. It's just that could have got into it somehow and used the covenant AI's self-replication code and pushed alot of data into that one to free up processing. So she can think more clearly(Though the way I say it makes it sound counter-productive, considering the one thing she'd have to stop herself from doing would be to think.).The domain would house information on forerunner Ancillas. Ancillas has very long life spans. Cortana can use that info.
Spartan II where started as kids they where indoctrinated with military strategy and disciple from a young age. Spartan III (halo reach) where a cheaper form of the Spartan II (they could be mass produced)... Spartan IVs all held military positions before deciding to become Spartans, they went thru the augmentations and training but did so when they where adults not children.
wow, I just read the book again after af few years ... his reflexes under stress are 6 times faster than that of a normal human. Happened on a test field when he had to prove the awesomeness of the Mjolnir Armor for the first time ... he barely got away though, but won as he is used to ^^
Looks like the scientist has composed himself.
He really is better than all of them. The greatest Spartan ever made, John 117
ODSTs kinda are the 'Leeroy Jenkins' of the Spartan world... the just go in to the middle of the battle hoping to live. They also are more trained that regular Spartans.
the IIIs are also pretty hardass and discplined due to their legendary trainers like kurt and mendez. they had a pretty tough initiation in ghosts of onyx too
He's laying on the beach getting a tan after being in that suit for over 5 years. :3
Thanks MaestroRigale for getting back to me. The Spartan III's were given genetric modications. It's been a while since I read Ghosts of Onyx but i remember reading that when the Spartan III's took off their helmets they looked like children in olympic bodies. btw, do you recommend any other books besides fall of reach, first strike, or ghosts of Onyx that covers Spartans?
Yeah and I just found another one, sometimes your entire loadout will reset back to basic weapons and you'll have to customize them all over again.
Well the main reason is that the Spartan-IVs are composed of volunteers from all branches of the military and haven't gone through the hardcore training the S-IIs & IIIs underwent.
Considering that the ODST was a special forces branch of the Marines, and they were the best of the best of the standard human soldiers, I think it is quite likely that they would have been up for augmentation into the Spartan IV program. Hell, UNSC brass probably encouraged them to step up.
He's earned every single medal the UNSC grants to its members accept the POW medal. He's fought and killed thousands of enemies, he's saved the human race a couple of times, he's possibly the most successful Spartan in the history of the program (though he's not the strongest, smartest, or most skilled, he's probably the luckiest). He's the unofficial leader of the Spartan IIs and most of them defer to him, though Frederic-104 outranks him and was considered one of the other natural leaders.
John-117 is just a Master Chief Petty Officer, not Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. Those are two separate ranks, like General and General of the Army are two separate ranks. In fact, there is another rank, General of the Armies, which only two officers have ever held, and is separate from the other two ranks. MCPO of the Navy is the highest single enlisted member of the Navy, but there are multiple MCPOs. In any case, ANY officer outranks an enlisted member of the military.
This is during off time. And Crimson team apparently lives up to your standards (Crimson team being the player in the actual game).
Agreed, anyone could apply to be a Spartan IV. Granted, they have to exceptionally skilled to pass, but they weren't trained from childhood
I think something that people should keep in mind is one of the themes of this game is that the Humans are walking down the path of the Forerunners. They are beginning to reach the same level of technological advancement, and one of the things that the Librarian said she did was give them a predisposition toward creating "battle-skins" "ancillae" etc... the Forerunners gave augmentations similar to that of the Spartans (via "mutation"), plus powered armor and AIs to their entire population.
It seems like Fem Shep is alive after all. I knew going full paragon would give me an alternative ending into something more epic! (Sarah's voice actor is also Fem Shep's voice actor)
Yes, that's true, but if you think about it, the foundations for upgrades are there. She and Chief were planned by the Librarian LONG before they were even born, basicly at the end of the forerunner-flood war. She implanted a geas into the human race. It eventually ended up with halsey, who then made Cortana. The way Cortana was made was different from all the other AI's, thus having a different effect. She was a clone of Halseys living tissue. 343 Guilty spark is clone (kinda) of a human.Chakas
they can spit acid. they regenerate wounds that would kill humans almost instantaneously. they can see in the dark without nvg's. they can withstand radiation. etc etc etc
and they're immortal, if not killed in combat.
Pretty much thought this after having finished the campaign. They left it open a little which considering this as well leads to that possiblity being more likely
While the book did indeed come first, lets not forget that the film alien revolutionised the science fiction genre by setting the 'bar' on how space marines look like. The uncs marines from halo 1 look almost identical to the ones in alien.
Odds are the Librarian made some kind of copy or something of her while John was busy being augmented by the Librarian.
The Librarian did say that John's evolution, MJOLNIR armor, and Cortana were the culmination of a "lifetime of planning" though we don't know what she was planning for, most likely the Precusors or w/e, I doubt that she didn't take Cortana's rampancy into account.
Plus the Didact survived so it's possible she did as well. A sad, noble death though if she didn't make it. :'(
Who knows. Would certainly be an interesting plot to explore. But I think the flood's purpose is to test the galaxy to see if any of the races can defeat it. If one can, as humans almost did (see Halo 4 terminals) then that race will inherat the mantle of repsonsibility for all other races in the galaxy.
On the other hand, this is MASTER CHIEF. Who cares about rank, he outranks anybody, and he can kick the augmentations out of any spartan who challenges him.
I've heard that they generally do, but not in halo 2 because you drop with them on a few missions
Because that's what they are. They were not kidnapped from young, they were in the UNSC for several before being invited to join in the program.
I know he was BSing. I was trying to be polite, and it was possible that recent information that had changed canon had come out and I just didn't know about it. But I know that ODSTs don't start training at age 6, like the Spartan IIs (and IIIs?) did. The Spartan IIs and IIIs are by far the most highly trained fighters the UNSC has ever had. Remember that John has killed multiple ODSTs on accident, and disarmed without killing (which is much harder) more in a demonstration/testing exercise.
I don't know man. Those Promethean Knights can tear you apart in the Campaign at record time. Yes, I question your word.
The forerunner race itself as a hole is dead. the didact (which is what he fought in halo 4) was awoken by chief. but this guy said he killed didact AND the forerunner race(which isn't true)
That's the thing though. The Spartan IV's were adults when they went through augmentation and had lives prior to becoming spartans. The II's and III's had no lives, all they knew was Goal and Execution.
I know right? Crimson is like, by far THE BEST spartan squad to ever exist at any point in time in any area of the known universe!
...*looks at sr...20...*
it took a full fireteam of spartan - IVs to barely defeat a few of those forerunner warriors. it took only one spartan - II to do the same thing. perfect example of the degree in the difference of strength between a spartan 2 and a spartan 4.
didn't know that lol, also the III's were expendable as well because they were also cheaper and easier to "create" so to speak
Well in Halo 3 I only heard that mainly from Marines but I probably missed the ODST's saying that.As for the Masterchief beating up 3 ODST's came from was in a comic called Halo Helljumper which was canon(don't worry)
LCDR Ambrose/Kurt-051 promoted him to LTJG in Ghosts of Onyx. He's now the highest ranked, confirmed in-action Spartan II. Spartan IIs were very rarely promoted to officers. Master Chief has more than enough command experience to warrant a position as an officer, but he's just never been promoted. Probably never will, either. We're all too fond of calling him "Master Chief."
To be fair, she has been augmented; all of the Spartan IVs are given both genetic and other biological augmentations, both for the basic increase in fighting ability and to enable them to wear the Gen. 2 Mjolnir armor. If they weren't augmented, the armor would kill them just like it killed the those who tested the Mjolnir Powered Armor prototypes.
By definition, she had to be augmented to wear the "Spartan suit."
*DMR, and partially at that because the DMR was supposed to be a product of the scoped magnum and battle rifle. I say this because the developers stated flat out that they wanted the game to play like the first Halo, and because that's what the developers usually do to guns every time they make a new halo game (ie the introductino of the brute plasma rifle, unscoped mag, introduction of the smg, the faster needler and whatnot)
I consider defeating your enemy at the cost of wiping out your entire civilization "loosing", and regardless, the Imperium still faces significantly deadlier threats than the flood on a regular basis, and somehow manages to survive.