Airline Food During the Golden Age of Air Travel
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I was a stewardess for Western Airlines from 1963-69. Yep. I'm old, 80 to be honest. Western was a quite conservative airline that catered to businessmen and celebs. I flew on the 4 engine DC6b, the Lockheed Electra and the jet powered 720b. I adored the DC6! The food ranged from really awful dry sandwiches with a bit of ham and cheese to some to die for loin cuts of beef and pork or fresh Alaskan salmon. Most food was prepared at flight kitchens and Denver won my heart for great food, beating San Francisco. For my entire career plastic cutlery was NEVER used. Instead there was real cutlery (coin silver?) like hotels used to use. They were much smaller than standard. The dishes were melamine like. We used real cloth everything, including head rest covers. The blankets were real wool. Please, never forget that flight attendants are not there to "serve" you, they are and always have been mandated by the govt. to keep you safe. On one of my first flights we had an in cabin fire and guess who's your trained fire department? (Trained by the excellent LA fire department.)
Thanks for sharing your amazing story!
I remember the real silverware on planes. We had quite a collection as students... 😇 They were smaller and shaped slightly different than regular cutlery and of course they had the name or the symbol of the airline on them.
Thank you for sharing such an interesting bit of history! Love your story.
Thank you for sharing your story with us! That's awesome!
I was also a stewardess for Western 1968-71. I had a few flights of the Electra but most on 720b. Your comment is right on. I still say we had the best uniforms, except summer.
My grandmother worked as a stewardess at Delta in the 50s-60s! She originally was trying for a job with American Airlines but they rejected her cause she ‘wasn’t pretty enough’ for them so she went and applied at Delta instead. They actually paid for her honeymoon trip with my grandfather before they fired her for being married lol
Oh my god the end of that story hahaha thank you
That's nutter butter, thx for sharing 😊
Certified 60s moment...
That's so wrong! But hilarious at the same time.
Stewardess? Ehem, its 2024, that's "Flight Attending Engineer".
How weird it must’ve been to see the quality drop so dramatically for anyone who really got to experience flying from the 60’s onward
Not exactly weird when every generation, outside perhaps the most recent, has gotten to watch the decline happen to some degree.
Watch the qaulity drop in everything lol and prices rise. What a time to be alive 😂🎉
Say hi to the market and the oh so holy hand of """capitalism"""
@@OskarVanBruceI can smell the mustiness coming from your comment
They didn't experience it too much since they were paying prices for first class experiences, and those are still decent.
Max, you are a prime example of how independent creators are running laps around mainstream and cable programs. Great stuff as always.
Hi Max! I'm 74 and both my parents were airline employees in the late 1940s and thst is how they met. Dad was in marketing and my mother, well, she was offered a stewardess job but since she was afraid of flying became a ticket agent for United. Fast forward to 1961 when they were both travel agents, and were given two free tickets on one of the new jets flying from SF to LA. But mom was still afraid of flying, so I got to go. Don't remember the food, but it was an exciting trip!
I started flying in the 1950s and in my experience meals topped out in the 1960s. I clearly remember being served meals chosen from a menu and presented on metal trays with cloth mats, ceramic plates, and silverplate utensils. Roast beef, green beans, mashed potatoes and salad would have been typical. Chicken breast was a frequent option, along with scalloped potatoes. Nothing was wrapped in plastic or sealed in bags. I remember American, United, and TWA as having really good stuff.
sounds like working for an airline really could help a gal find a husband. that's really sweet!... i mean, offensive. terribly sexist and offensive haha. since your dad worked in marketing, he should have apologized twice! :-P
@@RisoSystemsThat sounds like flying first class today. The ceramic plates and cutlery.
Mine too!
I was lucky enough to have my dad working for the airlines. The food, service, lounging area, etc. really spoiled me, especially on the transoceanic routes. Those were the days. I still remember the ice cream sundaes with macadamia nuts and hot fudge.
My great aunt wanted to be a flight attendant. She was born in 1929, so by the end of WW2, she was in love with airplanes. In the very beginnings of commercial air travel, the first stewardesses were often RNs - there wasn’t an airport every 100 miles, so you could have to fly for hours if you were in a bad location or going over the ocean and someone started having a MI. So she went to nursing school, (during which time the “RNs preferred” thing changed). She remained in nursing, because she didn’t meet the height cutoff - she was 6’ tall, and they didn’t want anyone over 5’8”-5’10” - but flew every chance she got. Miss you, auntie.
I am 71 and my first flight was Kennedy to Gatwick in 1969. Marvelous
Plenty of room in the seats, three meals, just three people on each side
of the aisle and EVERYONE WAS DRESSED. Coat and tie, dresses or suits
for the girls. Spent three months studying in Europe....I shall never forget
it...at 17 years old
Sounds miserable 😂😂
You and your family were clearly wealthy, lucky air travel has changed and young people can fly from £20-30 nowadays(short haul)
That's how it should be done
@@charlesjay8818 is that supposed to be a bad thing? Sound jealous.
The space and room sound nice, but I'd rather not be wearing a suit and tie for a long flight. Sure it's more proper looking, but has zero benefit outside of public image. Much rather be wearing something comfortable.
Hi Max! I had to pause the video to share my 2 cents.
I'm an "old maid" in my 36th year of flying. Back in the late 80's, Northwest [orient] Airlines had 'Royal Imperial' first class, Chicago-Tokyo -- a route I worked regularly.
We had a 7 cart dish- up service for First Class. 7 separate carts of meal courses, served at your seat.
1. Hot & cold appetizer....
...also, caviar or sushi, depending on the route direction.
2. Tossed to order salad
3. Entree choice of beef bourguignon, roasted squab, teppanaki, or lasagna
4. Four choices of hot sides
5. Elaborate desserts, of pastries and ice cream sundaes
....and a palate cleanser of sorbet offered between courses.
All served up on beautiful china and cut crystal glassware.
My favorite work position was Galley. I plated all the entrees and set up the carts.
It took about 2-1/2 hours to serve 18 first-class passengers.
...it was the first time I ever tasted caviar.
Now, few airlines offer real FirstClass. It's mostly Asian/Middle Eastern airlines, who are government subsidized. U.S. carriers can't compete financially. It's now an expanded version of business class.
And I STILL LIKE MY JOB! Still having fun, seeing the world and interacting with people from all over.
P.S. Do I eat the food? Not really. We rotate the menus about 3 times a year. I can't eat the same thing over & over. So I bring my own food from home -- or Popeyes chicken..lol.
That food you described sounds fantastic!
Absolutely delicious! 😍
Thank you for sharing your experience!
I was thinking there's still decent meals on flights until I realize those were my overseas trips to Europe and Asia pre-COVID. My family still has actual silverware from Singapore Airlines from the 80s or 90s.
Maybe this is a crazy question and the answer is obvious, but with all these courses served on china and glassware, what is the dish washing situation? Are they washed on the plane? Is there an airport industrial kitchen? Lol!
The way you described your childhood experience of air travel made me realize we are probably exactly the same age 😂
Same here. God, I'm so old lol
And a fine age it is! Well done my slightly seniors!
😂
41 here
@@TastingHistorySo one year older than me. I got 40 today.... the magical age when men grow up.... or so I heard.^^
"Dont est a whole bay leaf".
I feel like the universe continues to jab at me for a mistake I've made during my 5th grade history trip. We were aboard a replica 17th century sailing vessel and the kids were split between types of crew members to recreate some of the jobs found aboard. They even had a smaller mast, sails, and rigging for boatswains. The cooks in the galley made this incredible beaf stew just FILLED with bag leafs and me, not knowing what they were, being as polite as i could... ate 6 of them. My family, even as a grown man, continues to rebrand my soul with that incident and here we are again. Thanks Max for a wonderful, thorough, and interesting episode!
The Guts icon really makes this story hit a whole notch higher lmao
Lol! My mom sometimes will cook with them, but she takes them out before serving the dish.
In 1979 I was in the Army. I was transferred to Germany and flew from Fort Dix to Frankfurt, Germany. The flight was on a military contract airliner. The food consisted of a box of cold lasagna an overripe apple and warm container of milk (just like elementary school). The Army was nice enough to provide a screaming baby in every third seat.
The AirForce from Andrews was the same, with possibly the same babies, or their twins.
In the early 50s flying was considered so posh, my mother felt she had to wear a hat and GLOVES to board a plane. Unfortunately, I do not remember the food, but I do remember being taken to the cockpit and the trip when they sent our cat to the wrong airport. We found out later the pilot and copilot felt so sorry for him, they took him to the executive dining room and fed him steak and cream. It's a wonder he wanted to come home. Those were the days.
great story
If I was allowed to bring my own drinks I would but TSA says "No".
I'm glad you recovered your cat. Great story, thanks for sharing it!
I have a vague memory of flying in the 90s as a 10 year old, and I got to briefly visit the cockpit as well. It's absolutely tragic no kids will ever be able to do that sort of thing again, all because we refuse to give up the ridiculous BS we put in place 20+ years ago.
@@cyclos12 this was because of a terrorist attack on a Philippine Airlines flight back in 1994.
My Grandfather was a Delta mechanic from the 50s to the early 90s, and it was absolutely the golden age for the employees as well. A guy with a highschool education was making the modern equivalent of $46 dollars an hour with full benefits and a pension that still provides for my Grandma to this day. He also got free standby tickets for life. Dad would regularly come home from highschool in the 70s to a note on the fridge reading "Gone to Vegas, lasanga in the fridge, love Mom and Dad."
I blame Ronald Reagan.
@@admanios Always intrigues me that plain old corprate greed is blamed on the politicians. While I certainly don't think they are on the side of the average American citizen, it is corporate America and big business who are the true enemy of the people in my opinion. Whether employee or customer, they bleed us dry and give less and less in return.
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@@admanios: And you'd be correct. Add in Margaret Thatcher, who encouraged the same sort of hatchet job on workers' rights and economies in a lot of European countries and that's why we're running like mad just to avoid going backwards too fast these days.
I always think that Regan and Thatcher should have been hoping very, very hard that there is no afterlife, because if there were, they'd have a *_lot_* of penance to do for the amount of misery they caused untold numbers of people.
I think we are in golden age of flying NOW. Flying is much cheaper, than in past. In past, it was elitist experience, only few people could afford it.
My grandmother started travelling in the mid 50s and kept travelling all around the world until the early 2000s when she got sick and had to stop. I'm not old enough to have witnessed her earlier travels but I do remember her complaining about Iberia and another company because she only got a sandwich & something passing as dessert in her trip from Madrid to Buenos Aires. She was almost _offended_ that she didn't get a proper meal. I didn't get it, it seemed reasonable to me. She did that flight again, now a different company, and again she was so upset with the food she didn't bother eating it. I got to try dry sandwich and sad fruit salad, both wrapped in plastic. It wasn't good but again, it didn't feel all that different from what I knew (ferry trips from England to France, and ferry trips from Montevideo to Buenos Aires). Now watching your video... I understand WHY she was so upset. THANK YOU! A long time mystery solved.
Iberia is grim
I worked for 34 years for airlines and within that time 17 of those years as a Flight Attendant. Back in the late 80's and 90's was the pinnacle of food quality. I remember once I was traveling to Caracas, Venezuela on Viasa Airlines that no longer exists, in First Class they actually served me a soufflé as an appetizer. My family are great cooks and even I was really impressed by this.
My grandmother was a stewardess for American Airlines in the 1950s - I still have her wings and pins she saved with the classic AA and eagle on them - and this is precisely how she met my grandfather! She went through the training and was a stewardess for all of 8 months before she landed in Phoenix and saw a handsome man in the terminal sitting across from the Coke machine; he was on leave from the U.S. Chemical Corps. Very "subtly," she asked him to point her to the Coke machine, which was only about ten feet away. The rest is history.
Gasp! What a horrible story of oppression by the evil Male Chauvinist Pigs! It must have been a nightmare living back then! I'm literally shaking!
Oh no, wait a second, that's actually a cute and heartwarming story, set in an infinitely superior society which has been totally and purposefully destroyed. Sorry, I get those mixed up 🤷
Go, go, GRRRandma! Smart cookie your g-maand g-pa would have been smart to be in the Chmeical Corps.
I bet she was lovely 😍 in her uniform
I would 100% think she was just blind lmao
cute :3
As an avid aviation geek, I'd also like to add that Flight Attendants are not just there to get your drinks. They are rigorously trained in safety/emergency procedures and are responsible for ensuring the safety of all passengers on the plane. In many of the air accidents and disasters in history, flight attendants have been instrumental in saving countless lives and doing it under immense pressure, with many giving up their lives to see that through. So please give your flight attendants the respect they deserve, follow their instructions, and show your appreciation.
And on Southwest, they need to be comedians too.
That's why the had to be RNs in the early days.
In my opinion flight attendants don't get _near_ the respect that they deserve, and I think a lot of that is due to those sexist ads from the Golden Age of air travel influencing how the job is perceived.
Old WAL stew here. I think I love you!🥰
@@jillianc949 It's still sexist now, but also back then people had a LOT of SEX , sex and cigarettes were literally the thing that everyone did. Especially as we head in to the 70s , every movie and tv show u watched from back then radiated sexual energy it was super intense to watch some of these family films back in those days lol!
I am so surprised that very few stewardesses responded in the comments. I am 78 now, started flying in 1968 as a flight attendant. It was a wonderful life. I never knew when I went to work when I would return home. Every day was different and we met the most wonderful people. I still remember conversations with GIs going to Nam, women meeting new families. Two of us would serve 75 people hot lunch and beverages in 65 minutes from the time we took off and it all had to be stowed before landing. I also wore white gloves for boarding and deplaning. The world is different now. Thanks Carl and Frank
Carl and Frank?
Western stew here from the 1960's.
@@be6715 Carl Icahn and Frank Borman maybe? (If "thanks" is meant sarcastically)?
@@ekrewer Thank you, didn’t who was being referred to.
That sounds wonderful...
As an Air Force brat I flew a lot in the late 50’s and 60’s. Then I became a stewardess of UAL in the late 60’s ( think the flat hat! ) I learned a lot about food. Loved working first class, table cloths and great food!
Love this video. My Mom was a United flight attendant back in the 1960s. She started on the DC-6 and worked the "Executive-For Men Only" flights on the Caravelle. She met my Dad, a United pilot, and had to retire when they got married. The rest is history and I am honored to carry on their legacy as a United Captain, today.
I'm a little older than a lot of the commenters here, so I have great 1960s airline story. When I was 11 (1967) I flew from the Midwest to the East coast to spend a month with my cousins. Because I was flying as an unaccompanied minor, I was boarded before everyone else and placed under the charge of a flight attendant. I was flying coach, but because there was room in first class, and it was easier for her to keep an eye on me, I was put in the front row of first class. I expected to be served the economy lunch (cold sandwich), but evidently if you get upgraded to first class for ANY reason, you get the first class meal. The lunch on that flight was steak. I think the adults also got wine, I got milk. (The flight home was packed, so I was in economy, eating a sandwich.)
I did this in the early 70's several times. Flying United back then was AMAZING for ten year old me. I still have the tin wings they gave me once. The Stewardesses were always so nice and friendly and made sure I got where I needed to be. The food was always awesome. (Now I wouldn't give it to my dog to cure worms).
You are hot
Same story when flying from Santiago Chile to Sao Pablo Brazil 😂😂😂😂😂
Fun topical story, since you mentioned the Concorde: On June 30, 1973, scientists in a modified Concorde loaded with scientific equipment and with portholes cut into the top of the fuselage followed the path of a total solar eclipse and managed to observe it in totality for 74 minutes.
That's so cool
@@emmarounsville1479 Very cool! 💓✈💓
But commercial service on Concorde didn't start in 1969. First flight was 1969, but commercial service had to wait until 1976.
It was fun while it lasted. I got to fly it twice, once on Air France, once on British Airways. Only 20 were ever built and I think only 12 or something were ever used in commercial service.
Wow
@@cv990a4 Thank you! I thought it was later, as I remember it being a big thing when the Concord started flying commercially.
I love all those weird dessert salads. Dream salad, ambrosia, Waldorf salad, etc. Good stuff.
Sometime in 1991ish, I traveled to Grenada in the Caribbean. The first leg of the journey was a flight from Newark, NJ to Miami Florida. It was a morning flight and we actually got served breakfast and I'll never forget. We got whole grain pancakes, bacon, eggs, milk and juice(and coffee) oatmeal and toast.
The return fligt from Miami to NJ was at night so we got dinner which was steak, roasted potatoes, salad, and jello with fruit for dessert. Both meals were fantastic and I saw "Driving Miss Daisy" as the in-flight movie.
Born too late to enjoy good airline food
Born too early for 20 minute transcontinental flights
Born just in time for some disgustingly salty but still flavorless pasta and whatever weird side dishes the airline can dig up
Don't knock the surprise side dish. It clear a clogged toilet at 33,000 feet.
You forgot fiesta mix. The palate cleanser that actually gives you bad breath.
Don’t forget the in flight fights!
@@ky.kernel9852 Wait, the what now?
A friend of mine trained as a flight attendant, and one thing they teach is how to subdue and tie up a passenger that causes disturbance. How to be a good housewife, indeed 😁
Now if they only trained them to serve coffee while it's still hot we'd be set.
get outta here! lol
Why didn't they teach that in high school home ec? That was a skill I could have used back when I was married. Keyword: was.
They should teach that to every young girl in the country lol❤️🐝🤗
If you know any modern cabin stewards, ask them to demonstrate Command Voice to you. It's a style of shouting when you need to get a panicky passenger to do something in an emergency situation _right now_ and it's terrifying.
My grandma traveled a lot with her dad. I unfortunately don't remember asking about her experiences, and now I wish I had. But I do remember she adored flying. She wanted to take me on my first plane ride. We flew from Maryland to Wisconsin to visit my aunt and uncle. The twinkle in her eye and her excitement bled over to me. I've loved flying ever since! I wish I could've experienced what she probably did back in the day (she was 90 when she passed in 2017). I always think of her when I fly🥰
Dude, you are great at walking your audience through history on a specific subject. You educated yourself on multiple aspects of this subject, and your delivery was backed by photos and video clips and fun in the telling. I loved this video!
My father was the director of Catering for Scandinavian Airlines for North America in the 1950s and 1960s. He was a European Chef who began his career as one of the airlines first Pursers in 1946. He was strikingly handsome (being a red-headed Dane) which resulted his being featured in SAS advertisements as the face of the airline's culinary experience. In one of these ads (which appeared in major magazines, he is seen in full chef regalia serving breakfast to a gentleman in a canopied four-poster bed on the ramp next to an SAS DC-6. He is assisted by a lovely SAS Stewardess and there are smiles all around. I, essentially, grew up in his flight kitchens during the late 1950s and 1960s. My Mom initially worked for my Dad in his flight kitchen, having come from Sweden to do so. I have a really wonderful promotional photo from 1953 of the kitchen crew working with both my Mom and Dad preparing the meals for the next flight. My father was a central figure in airline catering during this era and was very highly-regarded for his work.
Häftigt!
That is a wonderful story about your family; and I know you must be very proud of them. I appreciate you sharing the story with us. Thank you! 😊💖🙏🏻
Would you be kind enough to share the name of your father? I would really like to see a picture of him online.
Me too I’d love to search up a pic!
Wow that’s amazing. What a great story😊
This feels more ancient than any other recipe you've ever done. Any flight being remotely comfortable seems outlandish and ancient.
Business class is still pretty comfy and usually with decent food and drinks and stuff.
It never went away. Like he said, the old tickets used to cost $1200 and that was your only option. Now, today, if you really want lots of legroom and a hot good meal, you can STILL pay $1200 for business class and get that. Nobody took anything away from you. The fact that you choose not to means you value the $600 more than comfort and a hot meal, so you are benefiting.
@@rogerk6180 That's more conditioning than it is reality.
@@gavinjenkins899 Are you kidding? The quality is terrible no matter how much you pay. Unless you're on an airline's marketing team, calling what they serve "quality" and the leg room provided "comfy" compared to what was formerly provided is simply deceptive. What pay $600 extra for still uncomfortable amount of leg room and garbage $5 TV diner if you're lucky, oh sign me up sister!
@@RKNGL what are you even talking about lol. How is a lie flat bed to little legroom? And on a proper airline the food is just as good as any decent restaurant on the ground served on proper plates and silverware.
Stop flying north korean air or something.
that dessert is a salad in the way most Midwestern "salads" are: it's a mix of sweets and mayo and maybe a fruit or veggie
My husband worked for Ansett, an Australian airline back in the 1980s. He worked on ground equipment and sometimes aircraft. He would often travel to the middle of Australia at Alice Springs and Darwin. Our children were small at the time and we were able to travel and stay with him during his time there. It cost us nothing and would stay at a nice hotel/motel with a pool. If there wasnt room for us on the flight we would go 1st class. We were fed well and the attendants were great with the kids. Then sadly everything got deregulated and my husband left. But we made lots of friends and some we still see now. One that worked in catering.
1:41 I really like that the makers of the book included the names of the chefs and where they worked with each recipe, it gives it a nice personal touch.
That's not uncommon for recipe books that are compilations, rather than all from one cook. I've got plenty of modern recipe books that give the recipe, the name of the person who came up with or submitted it, and even a blurb with the recipe's origin or history.
It is lovely to see the chefs who created these recipes getting proper acknowledgement.
Lol, seeing the images of a chef in the aisle makes me wonder how difficult it is a job for airline stewardesses, especially. They don't just have to take care of everyone's safety and accommodate passengers throughout the flight but they're essentially waiters/waitresses to an entire restaurant of patrons. And in the past they'd have only had like two stewardesses to do all this work.
I don't blame airlines for not providing full meals. People can wait until they reach their destination, they'll be fine, lol!
Before he passed away in 1986, my dad worked for Delta Air Lines in middle management, and one of the perks of the job was a sweetheart deal with Disney World.
So seemingly every year when I was a kid, we'd pack up the family and fly from Boston's Logan Airport down to Orlando. First-class, ultra-luxe, VIP treatment besides. Even after Dad died, Mom and the boys (my brother and me) still got the perks for another five years as a thanks for Dad's longtime service (and possibly a few favors called in at the corporate VP level, the guys my dad reported to when he was alive, or his coworkers who got promoted.)
There were two practical upshots to this that affect me as an adult nearly 40 years later.
One, flying first-class as a kid completely ruined air travel for me as an adult. I'm lanky and a shade under six feet tall (180cm/5'11") and my knees stand testament to a lot of hard miles on the baseball fields and basketball courts of my youth. I loathe getting on an airplane and would rather travel any other way save walking. Heck, I could tell some stories about cross-country Greyhound bus trips in the cause of visiitng long-distance relationships...but those are a story for another day.
And two, with apologies to Max's former vocation, I came to _loathe_ Disney World by the time I was an adolescent and if I never see it again it'll be too soon.
A lot of nasty family bickering at Disney World? That was my experience...
@@charoleawood That, plus one of the stipulations was we couldn't go during peak times. Florida in August? I'd rather be in Massachusetts...or Prudhoe Bay, Alaska!
@@SimuLord don’t you love 100% humidity?
@@milesmccollough5507 Considering I willingly moved to Seattle from Reno, I must not hate humidity THAT much.
Then again, every time my shoulder acts up (old sports injury), I consider moving to somewhere drier...like back to Nevada, or to the moon!
@@charoleawood
Could also be that Disney the corporation is a disgusting, despicable global hegemony that bribes politicians (especially US ones) to further stretch copyright to its breaking limit so they can continue to hold on to the monopolies they own?
Or how they hit a family with a court order to remove some Disney property from the tomb stone of their deceased child.
Or how extremely litigious they are in defending aforementioned properties with the zeal of Gollum coveting their precious?
I could go on. But I won't.
My mother (RIP at two weeks short of 92) and I got to fly for the first time on the same airplane. It was an American Airline 727 from Columbus, OH, to Dallas/Fort Worth, TX. I was on a job interview. She felt it might be her only chance to fly and wanted to join me. She bought her ticket and paid for my upgrade. It was 1979 and thus just at the end of the Golden Era.
She came to the interview (sitting in the lobby). My future boss heard about her being there and ended up meeting her. It was, to say the least, embarrassing for my mother to come to my job interview. When I agreed, I thought she'd be at the hotel, but nope.
I had a very nice meal on an Air Canada 3 hour flight, from Montreal to Florida… in 1978! It was chicken in a creamy mushroom sauce, salad and dessert… You were also entitled to a free alcoholic drink and I had a crème de menthe! I was 12 and it was my first flight. My mom and I were sitting way appart, but we never would have thought of asking someone to switch seats!
Another reason why food in airplanes doesn't taste the same is...sound. They discovered that specific noise frequency and volume causes our brains to process smell stimuli differently. I really, really, really recommend the book I know this from, 'Gastrophysics' by Charles Spence. He is an experimental psychologist who specializes in how our different senses interact with each other to create perceived experience.
Yup, with altitude flavors become more bland
Oh wow! Thanks for sharing that book!
Weird because I love food on airplanes and trains 😅
The face drop at "retirement age... of 30" got me laughing 😂 Love these videos
Seriously. It’s just depressing
Agreed, I have been working since I was 17 and still have about 20 more years to go. My dad retired at 59…still older than 30 but closer than late 60’s. Lol
I just found your channel and have been binging. Love the history.
@@imperfectpairing2000 Regular retirement isn't the punchline - she's saving the spoiler for the viewer!
@@imperfectpairing2000 I didn't interpret it as they get to retire from working at 30, but rather that they're deemed "too old" by the airline and forced out of being a stewardess/executive bait.
DiCaprio Airlines
I flew BOAC NY->London 1972. They served tournedos in coach class, very nice!
On my return flight, Little Richard was aboard and I don't remember the food, but he consumed a whole bottle of Smirnoff. My autograph said To Ya with love Little Richard.
I'm a 30 yr old Minnesotan and grew up knowing about Northwest Airlines befire they became Delta. My Dad would travel a lot for work and would earn lots of Airline miles, which lead to couple family trips flying to places. The biggest one was Disneyland. I remember the Peanuts and yes Honey Roasted are the best.
Anyhow, I wish we could bring back the Luxury & Classiness of Air Travel as well as Train Travel. Bring back the Concords' as well as bring back the really large planes that have on board dining rooms and the like.
Several years ago, my parents brought several dozen bagels and bialies from a certain bagel bakery onto a plane and "smelled up the cabin". We were done of the first to board, and people kept coming up and commenting on the wonderful smell. My dad got asked several times "You got bialies from Western Bagel, didn't you? I can smell it!", then the person took a big whiff with a huge smile on their face. Anytime someone mentions "smelling up the cabin, it reminds me of this story. Thanks for the memory. 😊
Sadly, I smelled up the entire cabin with kimchi once. It was sealed in a jar. I had no idea that would happen. I wouldn’t claim it from the overhead bin until everyone else was off the plane. I feared for my life for forcing that stench on the passengers, not to mention the flight attendants, on a long flight from Seattle to Atlanta. 😂
@@genevadonley5874 that sounds like something I would do 😅 I live in Seattle, was it a local brand?
fart 💨
@@tanyah.9131 sadly, it was so many years ago I don’t remember
My dad used to live in Alaska and every time he visited his former hometown, he would get local French bread and milk bread fresh from a local bakery to take back to Alaska...he would load up. Your story reminded me of that.
One of the coolest features of this channel is how it brings together so many people to tell their stories. The comment section is incredible!
@emmarounsville1479 I've been reading through the comments for two hours now - it feels just like an interesting novel that you simply cannot set aside, even though your alarm for work will go off in five hours! I can't stop reading, and enjoying, all of Max's viewers' comments about their own, often childhood, experiences.
Yes I was just thinking that. Love the comments
Your line about Heavenly Delight made me immediately hear "Minnesota salads that aren't really salad!"🎶 in my head.
My grandparents flew on the Concorde once for their 20th anniversary and it also happened to be my grandpa's first ever flight too. They had the best time on that flight, complimentary champagne and meal (I forget what they had), gift packs with the plane's aerodynamic science and history, miniature Concorde figure and badges. In fact I remember the Concorde's last departure flight in London, it was bittersweet hearing it break the sound barrier one last time
I feel like I need that 50's orange plastic tray, for reasons. 😃
I am old enough to remember when they had to cook airline food on the ground and seal it before flight, before they added "kitchens" for reheating pre-made meals, and I kinda miss it. It's weird to think that everything has to be that much saltier/sugary/sour/bitter at high altitudes because our taste buds are dulled by air flight. I bet hardtack **clack clack** doesn't change its flavour up there.
We'll find out when airlines start serving it in a few years
Those trays are great for sledding.
Hey, in our family , because it's orange is good enough reason to need it.
For some reason, it's our favorite color, & became our family meme.
"Why? Because it's orange !"
Considering hardtack (clack-clack!) doesn’t have much flavor to begin with, how could you tell? 😂
@@maeve4686 Because it’s orange is a good enough reason for anyone! Personally, I’d go for blue.😂
What I miss most is not the food. It’s getting on a plane with zero TSA lines. Simply checking my bag and heading to my flight, family or friend in tow right up to the moment I actually boarded the plane. Sometimes lounging in a restaurant prior (I had lunch with Al Jarreau that way - on the day I went into the Army!). I remember taking my brother to a Denver flight - he rushed on with his skis in hand. 😂 And I remember coming off a plane directly into a terminal & into the arms of family or spouse. While security had been increasing somewhat, it was 9/11 that really took all that away in a flash. And generations who followed will never know how hassle free & light hearted travel could be. Occasional hijackings excepted. 😳
I flew to NY from LAX on 9\9\2001 and then home about a month later. It was a stark contrast.
@@_cosmic_voidthat’s some timing
Fair enough. The era of luxury eating on airplanes was also an era when there were far fewer flights and access to air travel was much more restricted for many people. But there was also an era after that, when safety and access were improved, yet it was quicker to get from street to gate. The reaction to 9/11 put an end to that, for better or worse.
Same. Any actual pleasure in flying, at least within or to/from the US ended on 9/11.
Yes, I remember being able to go right to the gate to see them off when my grandparents were flying out of Detroit to FL. Those were the days.
My mother was an airline hostess for TWA and Mohawk airlines. She did the New York to L.A. run. Shared a house in Hollywood Hills with a couple other gals and told me great stories! She loved the golden days of commercial flying. I would kill to hear her stories again.❤😢
I had a fantastic meal in 1989 with British Airways Club World, served on china plates with proper glass and metal cutlery. It was paired with very good wine and preceeded by excellent Piper Heidseck champagne. Back then the catering department used to prepare sample dishes and wines, these were then flown to 30,000ft for tasting. This ensures that the pressure difference didn't change the taste.
The picture with the Concorde food description was of the downstairs front of a 747. Concorde was a single class aircraft, all seats were first class. When it operated you could fly from London to New York in the morning, spend the day shopping or at meetings and be back in London for dinner in a restaurant. Phil Collins opened Live Aid in London and flew Concorde to open it at the American venue.
I'm 67 and I remember PanAm as a luxury flight serving great meals. My 2 sisters and I would wear matching outfits and the flight attendants would give us wings (a pin) and let us carry the tray of gums and mints to offer the passengers. We flew a lot internationally. I found a menu from one of the flights and a cocktail was about $1.50! This was in the early 1960s.
Your parents obviously had a lot of money, much more than the average person.
@@RobertR3750 no my parents were not wealthy at all. We were very middle class. My father was in the peace Corps and maybe they paid for our trips to underdeveloped countries. I was 5 years old so I don't know.
You also got those little pouches with dental care, etc. Now instead of sardine appetizer, it's the people who are sardines packed in the plane
@@debbiegilbert1585 The point is that all those international flights you went on were NOT something the average person could afford. In 2024 dollars, each flight would have been several thousand dollars. I had no idea the Peace Corps threw so much money around to "help poor countries" (luxury flights for a middle class American family sure don't sound like the way to do that).
@@RobertR3750 All flights back then were "luxury" flights. Airlines did not realistically compete on price due to industry regulation, so they competed on the experience. If one had to be doing a lot of flying in the 1960s, it was by default a much finer experience than anything outside of Emirates today.
This channel has become my comfort food that I come back too not only whenever new videos come out but whenever I’m sad or uncomfortable it really helps to sit down and watch a few
Thank you so much Max ❤
Great video!!! My first flight waa 1983. It was economy and the meal was hot and pretty good. My first time flying first class was 1998 from Chicago to Frankfurt Germany. The seat laid back and had a leg rest. We had a 5 course meal then they came through before we slept and made us sundaes to order. Breakfast was fresh fruit, cereal if you wanted and pastries. It was a nice experience and a wonderful gift to fly that long more comfortably.
My ex-husband’s dad died and left him a pile of money, so in 1986 we embarked on a round-the world trip for 7 months. Despite the windfall he was still a cheapskate so for the most part we traveled coach. In those days it was pretty much sandwiches, but depending on the airline (Thai Air!) there could be some really nice food, even in coach. Japan Air was pretty legendary too!
Fast forward to 2020 in February, just before the world changed, and my best friend and I were headed to Iceland. As she said to me, “I’m old now, I ain’t flying steerage. It’s a special occasion, and not that much more, let’s go first class!” And we did. There was champagne and nibbles as soon as we sat down, and fabulous hot meals, including roast lamb. Big reclining seats, eye shades, the whole 9 yards; I will forever be grateful that she talked me into it.
I will always travel Japan Air when given the chance!
If it's not that much more than hell yeah dude! One of my mother's friends recently did the same on a trip to Hawaii. First class is often several times the price of coach but every now and then you can get it for a decent price.
As a child, I remember flying to the East Coast from the Midwest and getting my hot meal in economy-usually chicken or pasta and a dessert. Very exciting for an 8 year. Now for breakfast, I got two packets of Biscotti cookies and flying during the afternoon, I got small bag of pretzel and a soda. No second pretzel bag was offered.
I remember as a kid in the 90’s when dad was getting out tickets for the flight, I shouted “I want six meatballs on my spaghetti please!”
Then came the trip I got my dinner in a colorful carton and when I opened it, six fat meatballs on spaghetti greeted me
Yep! But I can request, and receive, "hot tea and tomato juice"!
The only airline that flies out of my area to my home state is Allegiant. They used to offer free water and a complementary baggie of pretzels, but last time I flew (about 5 years ago) it cost money even for those. They gave you absolutely nothing, lol.
My experience with budget lines is ruined because my first flying experience was on Delta to Paris. Two hot meals, with complimentary drinks passed out 3 times and no inflight purchases.
i flew to Europe this summer and we did get chicken, pasta, and steamed vegetables for one of our meals. Not quite as good as a home cooked meal, of course, but for as much as people complain about airline food, it was pretty good
Love the video!! Thank you for sharing this with us, and as an aerospace tech instructor, I truly enjoyed the history of airline food. I'll definitely be making that roast, potatoes and heavenly salad! Thank you again! 😊💖🙏🏻
I never flew until the 90's but I went to the airport regularly from the 1970's. I saw how fancy everything was and how everyone dressed up really nice.
I've been reading through the comments for two hours now - it feels just like an engrossing and fascinating novel that you simply cannot set aside, even though your alarm for work will go off in five hours! I can't stop reading, and enjoying, all of Max's viewers' comments about their own - often childhood - experiences.
Such a lovely community, Max's channel has!
Here, here!
Same!
I'm German and my grandpa was an engineer at Lufthansa, he traveled all over the world to inspect buildings and stuff like that. My mom told me that he always brought them yogurt in glass jars and nuts from the last flight before he came home. They also had red gingham cloth napkins with buttonholes in first class back then (so you could attach the napkin to your shirt) and my grandparents used those at home. Employees back then got lots of perks, my mom can still get a discount for Lufthansa flights because of her dad (who retired in the 90s!).
I fly Lufthansa often. So unfortunate that all that care went away but at the same time more people get to fly, I guess. Now, all airlines care about is their bottom line.
I worked as a stewardess for a major British Airline from about 2013- 2017. It's so interesting to see how much (and yet in some ways how little?!) airline travel has changed over the years. This was such an interesting video to watch!
My dad was a pilot for America west which was bought by us Airways then United Airlines. From the late 90’s through the 00’s. I flew everywhere in the us with him always got to see the cockpit and got free snacks from the flight attendants. It was a wonderful childhood.
Hi Max! I'm 63 and I remember a flight when I was in college, so the very early 80's. I don't remember the meal, so probably it wasn't fantastic. What I DO remember is being given an entire bottle of wine to go with it. I was underage at the time and was stunned to learn there was no drinking age in the skies. I didn't drink any of it, but I did take that bottle of red wine home and gave it to my Grandma who enjoyed it. 😄
Perhaps it wasn't codified yet, but my understanding is that airlines follow the laws of whichever country they are registered in. Or maybe you just looked grown-up!
I just got out of culinary arts program a few months ago.
My Chef used to work in the ground kitchens and make the food for the planes and worked for a variety of airlines back in the old days.
Cool
That's very cool. What is the favourite thing he taught you?
@@Firegen1 Sorry for the late response but honestly it's hard to say.
It might be a cop out but I honestly enjoyed learning everything (except puff pastry) if I had to pick one thing I really enjoyed it was the frenched and roasted lamb rack with a mint jelly.
You should do a series on like mid century cruise ship menu's or say what they use to serve on long rail trips back in the first part of the 20th century...thanks for all the great food videos you give us! Keep up the good work.
The first time I flew across the Atlantic as a child in the late 70s - my mom and I were blown away by the food. Fresh scones with clotted cream as part of our breakfast and lunch was the best Cordon Blue I've ever had. Times sure have changed.
I am that old and my dad worked for the airlines and we got special employee rates to travel, so we traveled a lot. We were required to adhere to a dress code, no jeans, or casual clothing. We had to dress in the equivalent of “Sunday best.” And I looked forward to the food! My favorite was “Chicken Kiev.” It’s my most vivid memory of flying in the seventies.
There was a somewhat recent thing going around where an airline wouldn't let someone fly on a family ticket because they were wearing leggings and they needed to be dressed more nicely, with all the normal "in MY day..." along with it....but honestly it feels like lipstick on a pig these days.
@@kray3883 How people dress for a flight can actually be argued from a safety standpoint. For example, I get why people will wear basic slip-on shoes or sandals to make the security theater easier, but if there's a problem with the plane, you might want to be wearing something sturdier.
I'd argue that leggings are really dumb to wear on an airplane. Let's wear skin-tight fabric that will melt to our skin at the first sign of fire? Keep that stuff on the ground.
@@immikeurnot Cotton leggings are much more comfortable to wear on long flights AND safer in an emergency because skin-tight fabric is less likely to catch on something. If there's a fire inside an airplane that could cause synthetic fabrics to melt to your skin, this will be the least of your worries.
So actually it's exactly the opposite of what you're saying.
@@immikeurnot Aside from the not catching on things aspect (which, can confirm, you can notice a difference just walking down the aisle), my leggings are not any more synthetic than a lot of "nice" clothing these days.
And, in the event of a water landing, I will easily fit the life vest over my clothes, kick my shoes off, and be able to swim with not much trouble. Good luck with staying afloat while you're wearing shoes and a polyester boat anchor.
My first flight was in 1966, still the Golden Age of flying. My mom and I were going to Italy to spend the summer with our relatives. I was 13 and so excited to be flying. We flew Alitalia Airlines and the food was magnificent. I felt so important being served by the pretty stewardess who could speak 5 languages! But what I remember most vividly were the barf bags in the pocket of the seat in front of me. I had need of them after the meal. I still suffer from motion sickness to this day.
Unfortunately Alitalia now don't even exist anymore. I flew with them lots of years ago when my parents chose to make a "second honeymoon" since their first one was kind of backpack trip around Grece. I'm an Ancient Egypt nerd so we choose Egypt and on the plane I vivedly remember the barf bags too, since we all saw our first mummies in disguise of salads and rotten tomatoes on the pasta. Then they lost our luggages...
Egiptian air on the other hand was really confy and everyone was so kind and attentive.
Btw of course I'm not blaiming the people working for Alitalia at that time because I know the conditions they were subject to, and the fact that most of them were already in furloughed work, so...
È stato triste vedere come hanno lasciato fallire la nostra compagnia di bandiera e trattato gli impiegati senza alcun rispetto!
@@micol7490 also Alitalia had the best possible name for our national airway company, and they wasted it. I'm still so sour
@@MaterialMenteNo I know (lo so)
Such a waste (che peccato). But the thing I'm more sorry about are all the people who lost their jobs because of it! (La cosa peggiore è che troppe persone hanno perso il lavoro). Only because corporate greed (solo per l'avidità dei dirigenti)
The italian side is not a literal translation
My mom and I flew Alitalia from NYC to Milan in 1967 to spend most of the summer in Italy. I was 13 and Mom had extracted a solemn promise that I would cheerfully eat anything set before me on the trip, but it was never even remotely a problem. I had my first prosciutto con melone on that flight and remember it still with great pleasure.
I love this channel. Always so informative. Never knew I wanted to know about the history of airplane food (or, better yet, never really actually thought about it really) but this was very interesting. I have to say though, I’ve flown both Delta and Virgin on flights to the UK and honestly, meals were pretty solid and they were always making sure you had a snack, etc to get through the flights too (and traveling with three young kids, that was VERY beneficial.) my first time having Indian saag paneer was on one of those flights and now it’s a favorite of mine. Who’d have thought a in flight meal would have been behind that 😅. Great channel. Ordering the book today too! 🎉
Thank you very much for sharing! Great food that you cooked from back in the days. Tbh, I see the airline food on a daily basis as a crew, and nothing beats fresh cooked food, everything gets reheated unless it’s just a cold salad. We have crew food, however, I try to bring myself something fresh and easy to digest for work; once I’m at the destination, I could easily find good food. Anyway, have fun cooking!!!! 🧑🍳
1. Sometimes the Concorde could fly from London to New York so quickly that you would technically land before you took off. One example is leaving London at 5:00 PM GMT and landing in New York at 3:30 PM EST.
2. Concorde flight 001, in partnership with the Queen Mary College Astrophysics Department, once flew at Mach 2.2 to chase the umbra of an eclipse, staying in the shadow for over an hour as it screamed across the Sahara Desert.
What fun! My dad worked for Eastern Airlines for 35+ years. I am sixty now, so I recall MANY an inflight meal, served on actual ceramic dishes with stainless steel flatware, glass glasses, and tiny glass salt & pepper shakers. Those were the days. I LOVED airline food! Thanks for sharing this video and helping me bring up many fond travel memories from my childhood.
My Dad did too! Mom was a travel agent. When Dad died, we joked that before he got to Heaven, he had to go through Atlanta!
I might or might not have stolen a rectangular airline plate at some point...
@@berelinde Confession may or may not be good for the soul. LOL
I made this recipe over the weekend. I have been on the hunt for a decent pot-roast recipe for years and was always disappointed. I can honestly say this may be one of the best things I've eaten in a long time and it will be my new go to recipe. Well worth making. Kudos Max!!
I'm old so I do remember when things were different. No security, people could go into the airport and watch planes take off and land, you could get on the plane if you were dropping off someone and then walk off, the isle was larger. Only one or two seats, huge plush seats, leg and elbow room, direct flights, food on every flight, choice of food, drinks with your meal wine, beer, no plastic or paper, it was linen, dishes, silverware, and people dressed up. Food was amazing. After eating if you wanted something else like ice-cream they would give it to you. No extra charge for anything and they would take large luggage as many as you wanted and packages. If you had a child they would be brought into the cock pit, they got to meet the pilots, and got wings, they gave kids a small packet with crayons and activity books. If you had a baby the stewards would take turns holding the baby giving you a break if needed, there would be places to hang long dresses and coats. You could get out of your seat at anytime, you could even smoke (glad that changed). Sometimes there was a line for the bathroom. It was pure luxury and you would get the best treatment with a fresh non-used blanket and pillow. After every flight a crew would come in and clean the inside and put new supplies in. Things sure has changed.
And remember the perfumed and warmed up moistened J Cloth all rolled up and brought out on a tray? And the candies to help with the cabin pressure that were distributed at take off? And no TV's at all! So we all found a reason to stretch our legs and find someone alone to chat it up with? Pink blankets and as many pink pillows as you wanted. I always took 3. During turbulence the stewardesses used to buckle up beside me and my sisters and play card games or just ask us about school and where we were traveling too.
@jacominahofmeester7815 . It was a treat to fly, what an experience. Now you are packed in like sardines and charged for everything. You're lucky to get peanuts and a drink.
So often I open the new video for this week and think “This topic doesn’t really interest me”, and EVERY SINGLE TIME I find myself drawn in by your fantastic storytelling ability. You really do make everything fascinating, Max. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
So so true!!!!!
I watch every single episode. His storytelling is so captivating....even if I am not interested in the subject I get entertained. I am fasinated with planes through.
There's a bar in Dublin Airport that claims to have invented Irish Coffee about 30 years earlier. According to the plaque, in the open cockpit days of aviation, pilots would land, and come into the base frozen stiff, and the airport whipped up Irish coffee to warm the body and soul.
That's the UK and Ireland for you everyone claims something or to be the oldest pub in the country lol. I think "irish coffee" was a thing people did for a long time the second the realized some types of alcohol tastes good in coffee.
I'll have what the captain is having!
There are multiple versions of this story but allegedly it was originally-invented for the passengers coming-off water-planes and it would be pretty cold and this warmed you back up again.
@neliusbresnan3766 as is typical with most things. Several claim to have invented the Hamburger, the chip, French fries, etc.
I do hope my comment didn't come across as an, "actually", or a "you're wrong because of", I wasn't attempting to do so, just sharing an anecdote , not attempting to claim it fact.
I like that you're covering 20th Century food history. The massive changes in technology included changes to food and how it was eaten, some good, some not.
I love this channel!
I really enjoyed this video.Thank you very much for all the information about airlines and the food they served back in the 50's and 60's.
I remember flying from Atlanta to Kansas City in 1971-I was 4. My grandmother had just died and my father was flying with me and my sister, 8 years old. As my dad used to tell the story, we got first class seats as those were available and the check in lady felt horrible for the reason we were flying and that my father had to take of us. We were the only ones in first class and got fabulous service. I remember eating delicious food and getting more juice when I asked. We got pins and a hug from the captain. I was excited to fly again and did when I was 10. Economy NYC to Rome-one row away from the smoking section. I knew then how special my first flight had been!
Back when we had a real America and a hug from a pilot like that was not creepy.
Chef's tip: The best way to slice the potatoes very thinly for a gratin, like paper, is to use a mandolin. Benriner or Oxo brands are good ones and not too pricey. If you decide to try this method , I recommend also purchasing a cut-proof glove in order to avoid unforeseen trips to the local ER.
Börner V-Slicer is the best.
Oxo is shit, get a feemster
Important utensil in my kitchen.
I was going to mention that taste changes at altitude but you covered it. You’re so amazingly thorough!
I really enjoyed this. I went to Johnson and Wales for culinary arts and worked in food service for the vast majority of my life. Although my father went on business trips at least once a week, I never knew that airlines, at least in the 50s and 60s, offered such fine cuisine. BTW, I also remember my dad bringing home the small bags of peanuts. This man has a good speaking voice and is easy to listen to. Good job!
In 1971, there were 3 levels of sanitation in the food industry. First was local restaurants, local health inspectors. Second level was anyone selling food across state lines. Third, with vastly tougher requirements, was an FAA inspection.
FAA inspections back when it meant something beyond "rubber stamped by the company, we're safe, we promise.".
In 1971 it still would have been the Civil Aeronautics Board
I did not fly during the golden days of airline travel but it did make me think that you should do a video about train cuisine. A few years back I did take a trip on Amtrak. I don't think I recall you doing any episodes on train meals. I think that would be really interesting.
What a fun and tasty episode! How relaxed and grounded you've become in the role of presenter, while keeping the sass and irreverence. And, informative as always. Great job!
I was not lucky enough to experience that level of yummies but I did travel in the 70s when they still served meals. At first, I would just order from the regular menu, beef, fish or chicken. I’d always order beef. Stringy, dry beef with a glob of brown stuff, some limp string beans and gritty mashed potatoes all served in a tiny tray. Then someone suggested I order the Kosher menu. DANG! I ordered the pot roast and it was served a platter, the size of the pull down tray. The pot roast was delicious! Roasted potatoes, baby peas and chopped salad, along with curious looks from the other passengers. I continued to order Kosher until they stopped serving meals.
An interesting fact on that, most Kosher meals would have been contracted out to a Kosher kitchen ( in house would have to many conflicting ingredients or dishware) so the meals were usually cooked to a higher standard in the 70's or 80's as airlines cut costs. This is why airlines stopped or didn't serve Kosher meals after a while.
too many people caught on. we had to shut it down.
@@goosiechild Oy vey
Now, THAT is an OG life-hack!
Former flight attendant here, European airline. There were no kosher meals in our European flights but when we started to fly to the US, we were taught how we should serve those, which had been ordered by the passengers when they had made their reservations. We would bring the tray to them and the hot dish came in a sealed container that the passenger would open, then we would take it back to the galley to warm it up. It happened that a young couple unsealed it and ate it cold before I came back to pick it up, as they didn't know they were just expected to unseal it themselves, now I'm thinking maybe they ordered kosher food just because they'd heard it was, better quality, as you said. They even said it was really nice, despite being cold!
I recall my first memory of a stewardess, forget which airline, she was dressed in blue, very smart, but it was the white gloves and pill box hats, that caught my attention. Had to be about 1964, 1965. I thought it was so glamorous. Thanks Max I look forward to all your content.
Light blue? Definitely Pan Am if so. The best airline in the world.
Yep, that was Pan Am
I to got to go into the cockpit as a kid! What an incredible experience!
It was night time and above the clouds, the clouds looked silver and there was another plane coming the opposite direction way in the distance with lights on...
Incredible.
That’s the best pot roast I ever had. I tried this because I had a feeling this would reveal techniques that have been lost. After all, the airlines were so competitive they must have hired the best chefs they could get their hands on at the time. Braising with veal bones. No cutting the beef into junks, but sliced at the end. No gobs of potatoes and starches to thicken the sauce; running the reduced sauce through a sieve and serve the veggies as a tasty mash side with a rich filtered sauce over the meat. While some flour was used to dredge the beef, the sauce was basically thickened by the fat and vegetable pulp.
Mr.Max, i just got out my 1940s milk glass mug printed with a green "Irish Coffee" on the front and washed it to display it this morning, and you posted this about 20 mins ago...and here you are talking about the origin of Irish Coffee !!
Ahhh, I love a good synchronicity.
So cool.
My dad has been an airline pilot all my life. As a child in the 2000's, I remember being excited when he got home and brought a treat for me and my brother from the crew meals provided on longer flights. They ranged from chocolates to a bag of cinnamon cookies, but one of the most coveted things he would bring back (and was ENFORCED that my brother and I split in half, it was so sought after!), was a full fruit and cheese plate for us to share. They were leftover meals from the plane, but once pre-ordering meals caught on, the airline would only stock what was pre-ordered and a couple extra onto flights. It wasn't exactly five-star food, but it was a special thing to have when my dad would come back home after days straight of being gone.
Max I love you, brother!! As a seasoned flight attendant I have to tell you another unknown fact about airplane food that is prepared in a kitchen. For many years, meat was never completely 100% cooked in the catering department kitchen. They would cook meats 50% and then flash freeze them. The reason is because the FAA restricted our ovens from exceeding 250 degrees. This created a challenge for flight attendants. For your next airline food video I think you should experiment with completing a flash frozen meal at 250. It is certainly doable, and you can deliver with quality and taste..... But it takes practice!!!
Ive been binging your content (i wish i found it sooner to get a book signed when you visited portland) and I gotta say, Your ability to replicate plating of the times is really something else. I keep thinking the thumbnails are from the recipe books themselves and then found out you put it together yourself! Amazing stuff
I remember a trip I took in 1974.
It was an early morning flight, leaving at 6:45 a.m., on a Lockheed L-1011. After the flight had commenced and the seat belt light was turned off, a full hot breakfast was served. It was a complete meal; scrambled eggs, bacon, ham, or sausages, hashbrowns, toast, orange, or apple juice, coffee, or tea. After which, the bar opened. Great flight!!
I felt that airline food song in my soul, man. There was plenty wrong in the 50's, but airline food seems like it was pretty well figured out.
2 bay leaves... eh, make it 3. I'm not driving.
ha! you watch anti-chef too!
Awesome, another Anti-Chef fan here! (It just won't give up without a fight!)
Who's "anti-chef"?
@@blakksheep736 he's a youtuber. he makes cooking videos where he learns how to cook.
@@oliviawolcott8351 thanks.
I still love economy class meals when they are served. I just love how everything you need comes on a tray and its all single serve.
great job!!! loved it!! I remember PAN AM first class 747, with beautiful menus (still have one) thet served CARVED FROM A CART in front of you PRIME RIB!! delicious caviar and cocktails mixed from full bottles of liquor!! Also remember flying TWA in economy from London to New York and everything was BRITISH including the menu, glassware, tir sticks , napkins and of course the food options IN ECONOMY!!! Those were the best days of flying!!! THANK YOU!!
Just an FYI, Airlines still fly planes with sleeping berths. They're on long haul fights and transoceanic flights, where you need at least two sets of crew to take care of the flight. While one crew if flying the plane, the other crew is resting up so they're ready when it's their turn. Kelsey of the UA-cam channel 74Gear often shows off these births. He also likes to talk about the "flight snackage possibilities" and would have loved the food options of these flights Max is talking about.
I've done a bunch of business class long-distance trips for work, and lie-flat beds are the rule rather than the exception. They're pricy --- typically ten times an economy class ticket --- but given that work's paying, that's fine by me! They make an incredible difference. Sleeping in one of these is actual sleep, as opposed to the fake sleep you get in seats, and you arrive at your destination rested and able to go straight in to meetings and not make an idiot of yourself... or in my case, no more than usual. The last time I had an actual seat in business class (Icelandair, Zurich->Keflavik->San Francisco) I ended up at my destination completely wrecked. Also, cross. I thought I was getting a bed.
...first class still exists. It's insane. First class on Emirates gives you a _cabin._ And a shower.
@@bewilderbeestie This I want to see. Sadly, I don't have the dollars to do so.
Hi Hi!! Current airline employee here!! I was wondering last week if we would ever see the golden age of flying in one of your videos and was super pleased to see this today!
A few things to add on:
1. Coffee and tap water is always a bad idea on a plane because the valve to fill the potable water is right next to the valve to empty the waste. The potable water is also the same water used for the sink and toilet in the plane, which is why it's low quality.
2. Some airlines still give silverware and ceramic plates for their first class meals, so you probably didn't need to use the plastic fork.
3. Some planes still have ovens on board, tho they're smaller and are use to heat up multiple meals at once. Kinda like a quick convection oven.
4. Some airlines still prefer pretty young women for their inflight crew, though they're from other countries. I remember being curious about an Emirates position until I read "must have a healthy BMI" and clicked out.
Great video!! I can't wait for next week!
We flush our household toilets with potable water.
You have managed to scare me ... What is "low quality" potable water? I was under the impression that the rules for pathogen and pollutant loads were very strict.
"must have a healthy BMI" is no different than "must be clean shaven" or "must maintain personal cleanliness" . It's all about representing the airline well and maintaining whatever image they think they have.
The main task of a flight attendant is saving lives in case of an emergency and you need to be fit for that, so of course a healthy BMI is needed. You can't save lives if you are so overweight that the smaller effort leaves you breathless. Also a minimum height is necessary, as you need to be able to reach the emergency equipment, which might be stored in the ceiling, like it was the case for rafts.
Very interesting, as always. I learned a different story about how in-flight meals began, also as how J.W. Mariott made his first million$. He had a root beer factory, and noticed lots of people buying take-away meals before boarding a long flight. He approached the airlines as a catering contractor, and the rest is history.
Made the pot roast and potatoes tonight. Delicious - I esp. loved the veg! Cut the boiled potatoes with a pastry cutter - so a rough mash - mixed in the heavy cream, etc., put in a casserole w/parmagiana on top. Fantastic.
I was a child when I had the most amazing meal of my life on Air France. I had Duck a l'orange with baby new potatoes, crisp asparagus and a mini pre-packaged creme brulee. I remember thinking at the time that we should fly Air France more often!
18: 00 Scandinavian Airlines had a point. The Danish "open sandwich" (smørrebrød/butter bread) is really just a slice of bread with a lot of toppings. Well, sometimes not that much topping, but it's not out of the ordinary to buy more elaborate version in a shop if you forgot your if you have forgotten your packed lunch.
SAS was kind of a big deal for another reason: In 1954 they were the first to fly over the north pole and offer a non-stop connection between Los Angeles and Europe. Copenhagen was a connection hub for the Hollywood stars who went to Cincinnati in Rome to make biblical epics.
We do open-faced sandwiches in Czechia as well. They're different from yours, but yep, can make a pretty good meal. Some have things like potato salad on top so that's pretty filling for being one slice of baguette-like white bread. 😊 No idea if they ever served them on airplanes...
P.S. I think you mean Cinecittà, not Cincinnati. 😅
The SAS flight I was on in 2019 was not nearly that stylish. I was in economy so I guess you get what you paid for. I prefer to fly Norwegian instead of SAS when I’m traveling in Northern Europe. Much better experience, at least for me.
I loved the open face sandwiches on SAS.